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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Kichwa on May 25, 2018, 03:34:52 PM
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https://kenyalivenews.com/kenyans-thank-raila-odinga-for-being-silent-on-nys-and-maize-scandals-railaremainquiet/
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Why do you think he should be silent? Because of politics?
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I think he should be silent because billions of shillings has been spent to make him the face of the enemy in some Gema and Kalenjin ouruto strongholds. Therefore, when he speaks out on corruption, some people tune him out thinking he is running for president.
Why do you think he should be silent? Because of politics?
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It's amazing how Raila can abscond his official job - to hold the government accountable - yet talk about corruption and the same values in his opaque Handshake. The duplicity is buffling. Raila and ODM are letting down Kenyans by failing to do their job effectively. Canoodling with Uhuru for political reasons - just to compete with Ruto - is very irresponsible of them.
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And what is that Raila's official government position? Stealing elections and buying mp's has made it unnecessary to have an opposition. Ruto actually has enough money to buy everybody including Raila to join Jubilee. That's how much money Ruto has stolen. If I were ODM mp's I would take the money Ruto is offering and join jubilee until 2022. Let us be a dejure one party state.
It's amazing how Raila can abscond his official job - to hold the government accountable - yet talk about corruption and the same values in his opaque Handshake. The duplicity is buffling. Raila and ODM are letting down Kenyans by failing to do their job effectively. Canoodling with Uhuru for political reasons - just to compete with Ruto - is very irresponsible of them.
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Robina - right - Opposition should do their job - otherwise we are effectively in one party state. If Raila can't - Kalonzo or MaDVD or some alternative need to rise. Now Raila has raised the white flag of surrender and the civil society are also dead. Never a better time to be a thief in kenya.
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So long as Raila is the Party Leader of ODM - the Official Opposition - he is the de facto leader of the opposition. In reality we know John Mbadi is only his puppet. Joining Jubilee is subversion of democracy not inclusion. Ruto does not have any more billions than Uhuru or Raila or Moi lined up to buy MPs. That's a pure white lie peddled by Kitendawili crew who are rabidly opposed to his candidature. They see no issue with Kenyatta or Moi - names synonymous with looting - yet whine endlessly over Ruto. It started with Joho calling him "Arap Mashamba". That plus Handshake and inclusion strategy are all fair game. Ruto's up to the task. The supplant of ODM in KADU zones has progressed as clockwork despite the noises. Sauti ya chura haimzuii ng'ombe kunywa maji.
And what is that Raila's official government position? Stealing elections and buying mp's has made it unnecessary to have an opposition. Ruto actually has enough money to buy everybody including Raila to join Jubilee. That's how much money Ruto has stolen. If I were ODM mp's I would take the money Ruto is offering and join jubilee until 2022. Let us be a dejure one party state.
It's amazing how Raila can abscond his official job - to hold the government accountable - yet talk about corruption and the same values in his opaque Handshake. The duplicity is buffling. Raila and ODM are letting down Kenyans by failing to do their job effectively. Canoodling with Uhuru for political reasons - just to compete with Ruto - is very irresponsible of them.
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Raila joining Jubilee is literally the meaning of subversion. His silence is not by design as Kichwa says: it's out of shame. Raila Odinga has lost the moral authority to check the government.
Robina - right - Opposition should do their job - otherwise we are effectively in one party state. If Raila can't - Kalonzo or MaDVD or some alternative need to rise. Now Raila has raised the white flag of surrender and the civil society are also dead. Never a better time to be a thief in kenya.
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Coming from Ruto supporter!-the chief priest of corruption. That's the real shame! There is no need to join jubilee-there are just no more donkeys.
Raila joining Jubilee is literally the meaning of subversion. His silence is not by design as Kichwa says: it's out of shame. Raila Odinga has lost the moral authority to check the government.
Robina - right - Opposition should do their job - otherwise we are effectively in one party state. If Raila can't - Kalonzo or MaDVD or some alternative need to rise. Now Raila has raised the white flag of surrender and the civil society are also dead. Never a better time to be a thief in kenya.
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I think he should be silent because billions of shillings has been spent to make him the face of the enemy in some Gema and Kalenjin ouruto strongholds. Therefore, when he speaks out on corruption, some people tune him out thinking he is running for president.
Why do you think he should be silent? Because of politics?
Or try to work it from inside the handshake perhaps. Ruto has plenty of skeletons in there. Enough to see him even politely decline to stand for office in 2022 if so asked :D.
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I think he should be silent because billions of shillings has been spent to make him the face of the enemy in some Gema and Kalenjin ouruto strongholds. Therefore, when he speaks out on corruption, some people tune him out thinking he is running for president.
Why do you think he should be silent? Because of politics?
Or try to work it from inside the handshake perhaps. Ruto has plenty of skeletons in there. Enough to see him even politely decline to stand for office in 2022 if so asked :D.
It's more likely Raila and his cronies have been bribed by Uhuru with part of the loot. Contrary to ODM propaganda NYS and the public services ministry are run by Uhuru's branch of the coalition since 2013. Not Ruto. Starting with CS Waiguru, Kariuki and now Kobia. The Handshake puts Raila's and ODM's independence in question.
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Now Raila is to be blamed for jubilees corruotion. kicheko sana.
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Robina is desparate to be on the "winning side", and is going to sacrifice all her earlier held principles to do so. Unfortunately for her, 2022 is still a long way and Ruto is the only candidate running.
Now Raila is to be blamed for jubilees corruotion. kicheko sana.
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Now Raila is to be blamed for jubilees corruotion. kicheko sana.
Isn't it amazing? :D Even the govt poaching the so-called "opposition" is safi kama pamba. Only the poached opposition is guilty, both of being poached and for Jubilee corruption. :D
Raila has done far beyond what's reasonable in this country. I'm not blaming him one tiny bit for throwing in the towel. Even the bazungu did, as did all independent institutions, and media, leaving him all alone to fight a corrupt regime with full state machinery. Even kina Kaloi were not willing to suffer along as we saw during the swearing in with their switched off cell phones. Dude is not Atlas. He can't hold the globe on his own shoulders forever. Nor ask Luos to keep serving as bullet stoppers on behalf of the mtu-wetu crowd. Let the thieving carry on merrily. Then lets see magic transform "competent" Arap Mashamba into Kagame. Get popcorn n enjoy the show, people. This promises to be an interesting ride.
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Lying low like an envelope is what Raila should do. Let Ouru run the country and Ruto campaign like the elections are being held next year. This way the country can focus on the two and for the first time be able to judge them for who they are-lazy and greedy/power hungry. Ruto must now tell us how he will fight graft better than Ouru and Ouru must fight graft because he has 41/2 years left on his term and Kenyans want something done about corruption today. Hopefully Ouru will discover that this was an inside job and that the thief has always been his deputy. He should then ask Moi for his play book on how he used the Msaliti play to get rid of Njonjo. Ouru realy needs to bag someone big to get his legacy in place and they do not come bigger than Ruto when we talk corruption in Kenya-he is the high priest. Nabbing the high priest of corruption would be the clear turning point on war against graft in Kenya and it would send Ouru right into the history books as the slayer of the seven headed dragon.
Now Raila is to be blamed for jubilees corruotion. kicheko sana.
Isn't it amazing? :D Even the govt poaching the so-called "opposition" is safi kama pamba. Only the poached opposition is guilty, both of being poached and for Jubilee corruption. :D
Raila has done far beyond what's reasonable in this country. I'm not blaming him one tiny bit for throwing in the towel. Even the bazungu did, as did all independent institutions, and media, leaving him all alone to fight a corrupt regime with full state machinery. Even kina Kaloi were not willing to suffer along as we saw during the swearing in with their switched off cell phones. Dude is not Atlas. He can't hold the globe on his own shoulders forever. Nor ask Luos to keep serving as bullet stoppers on behalf of the mtu-wetu crowd. Let the thieving carry on merrily. Then lets see magic transform "competent" Arap Mashamba into Kagame. Get popcorn n enjoy the show, people. This promises to be an interesting ride.
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Why Kenyans are mad with Babu is not his silence, but rather the fact that he was bought off so he is effectively neutered. He has not only been silent on graft but even past causes thst he was quite vocal on like Police mowing down his supporters,Miguna.... They feel betrayed,and that’s exactly what the handshake feels like for them. They shed their blood and tears so Babu can be invited to the feast.
Of course his diehard apologists will always attempt to make lemonade out of this lemon,and make some esoteric case out of each and every goof Babu makes
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I am always puzzled how Uhuru would fight any corruption. And the duplicity involved in fingering Ruto. How about he start by declaring his wealth? In 2013 we learnt he has only 30K ha in Taita. :D The quickest way for Uhuru to be a hero is to surrender part of the loot.
Raila's JOB - given by Kenyans - is to check GoK - not getting Luos to die. The latter's a choice he made himself.
Ruto's alleged mega-corruption - while the boss, Mois and looting families are national heroes - is an ODM 2022 strategy.
His competence is a bet I'm willing to take despite the demonizing. The demonization and punchbag he must accept and brace for in the final stretch. Uhuru was mwizi wa mashamba in 2013 but not anymore since he is not running.
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I do not know if he was bought off or not but I hope he asked for a lot of money. Raila spent 10 years in jail, has had his elections stolen three times, he has had billions of money spent demonizing him in the media and ridiculed for exposing corruption. Whatever they paid him, I do not believe is enough but I hope he got paid something from the stolen tax payers money and I hope it was only a down payment with more to come.
Why Kenyans are mad with Babu is not his silence, but rather the fact that he was bought off so he is effectively neutered. He has not only been silent on graft but even past causes thst he was quite vocal on like Police mowing down his supporters,Miguna.... They feel betrayed,and that’s exactly what the handshake feels like for them. They shed their blood and tears so Babu can be invited to the feast.
Of course his diehard apologists will always attempt to make lemonade out of this lemon,and make some esoteric case out of each and every goof Babu makes
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Where are you getting this JOB given to Raila? Could you stop being silly and cite the constitution. This is a winner take all and Raila after being rigged out and Ouru sworn in has no constitutional office just like Hilary Clinton. The fact is that Ouru and Ruto are both thieves, however, we are asking Ouru to deliver Ruto to justice. Kenyan needs someone really big to sacrifice and to begin a new chapter. Ruto is not the only corrupt person in Kenya but he is very corrupt and probably the most corrupt. Africans used to sacrifice innocent virgins and Ruto is not even close to being innocent therefore making him a sacrificial lamb is not a very bad thing to do. The problem is that Ouru may not have the guts to do it. Moi sacrificed Njonjo who literally made him president. He did it very early and quickly. Ruto would sacrifice Ouru in a heart beat and if Ouru does not sacrifice Ruto and Ruto takes over, Ruto will sacrifice Ouru in a heart beat. Its the game of chicken or the hawk-dove game.
I am always puzzled how Uhuru would fight any corruption. And the duplicity involved in fingering Ruto. How about he start by declaring his wealth? In 2013 we learnt he has only 30K ha in Taita. :D The quickest way for Uhuru to be a hero is to surrender part of the loot.
Raila's JOB - given by Kenyans - is to check GoK - not getting Luos to die. The latter's a choice he made himself.
Ruto's alleged mega-corruption - while the boss, Mois and looting families are national heroes - is an ODM 2022 strategy.
His competence is a bet I'm willing to take despite the demonizing. The demonization and punchbag he must accept and brace for in the final stretch. Uhuru was mwizi wa mashamba in 2013 but not anymore since he is not running.
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Why Kenyans are mad with Babu is not his silence, but rather the fact that he was bought off so he is effectively neutered. He has not only been silent on graft but even past causes thst he was quite vocal on like Police mowing down his supporters,Miguna.... They feel betrayed,and that’s exactly what the handshake feels like for them. They shed their blood and tears so Babu can be invited to the feast.
Of course his diehard apologists will always attempt to make lemonade out of this lemon,and make some esoteric case out of each and every goof Babu makes
Which Kenyans are these you speak for who feel betrayed? Lol. The ones calling him babu and who been mocking every single move he has made to fight Ouruto since last year, including apologizing for the killers of baby Pendo? People really should mind their glass house before throwing epithets. The internet does not forget, passtor "Pendo's parents killed her and blamed the cops". Hehehe. Talk about master "apologists", yawa. 8)
Ouruto fans should look in their own eye-lids before pointing fingers at anyone. Besides, for people so forgiving of graft and thuggery, it should be very easy to find mercy for "babu" in that bottomless heart of mercy for the simple crime of throwing in the towel. Ati y'all "feel betrayed", so now you were rooting for Miguna and the protests this entire time? :D
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And Raila should keep mum and lie low like an envelop. The retirement to Bondo is finally here, I don't know what all the crocodile kelele is now for.
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Opposition’s Orange Democratic Movement (ODM) Secretary General Edwin Sifuna has confirmed that the party leader H E Rt Hon Raila Odinga has deliberately kept silent regarding the latest National Youth Service (NYS) and Maize scandals.
Speaking on Radio Jambo Thursday evening, Sifuna attributed Odinga’s reaction to fear mongering and negative propaganda from a section of the nation, especially those allied to the ruling Jubilee Party especially Mt Kenya where many have been brainwashed to a point of opposing everything Raila proposes even if its for their own good.
He said that the group has frustrated the former Prime Minister’s push for a spotless leadership, leading to his decision to silently watch the latest unfolding scandals with the hope that Mt Kenya and North Rift residents will take the lead to go the streets to protest on raging corruption scandals in government..
“Even if he were to raise his voice regarding the corruption scandal, some people, in line with their political allegiances and personal opinions, would still oppose him,” said Sifuna.
”He has made several similar attempts earlier but were repaid with defiance and insults by the same people now yearning for his intervention,” he added.
”Let everybody suffer, those eating monkeys let them continue and move to dogs and where possible turn to themselves perhaps its when they will realise that good governance is essential and that tribalism is bad”- Okoth Mbewa added.
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Kichwa, if Raila did his usual thing, the same "Kenyans feel betrayed" and "opposition leader" crowd would be here in full defense mode demanding that Raila table the evidence of so-call graft before yapping and saying all he does is kelele and no work. It's almost like we are supposed to pretend we haven't seen this routine a hundred times before.
Besides, this is a great opportunity to see the famed competence of Ruto at work, not the lazy old man, Raila. Lets sit back and watch Kagame do his thing people. Do you see Kagame relying on opposition in order to efficiently deal with graft? Nope!
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Another reason why Raila should lie low is to leave some room on the political stage for the brewing war between Ouru and Ruto. Ruto is running around the country campaigning against the dynasty. We all know that the only viable dynasty in Kenya is the Kenyatta dynasty. Ruto Kagame is therefore running against Ouru and Ouru should be really worried about what Ruto would do to him if Ruto became president. Ruto is already assuring non-kiuks in exchange for their support that he is the only one capable of ending the kikuyu domination. Uthamaki should therefore be very worried about this dynasty thing. There is nothing like Odinga dynasty in reality. The only dynasty is the Kenyatta/Uthamaki and that is what Ruto is running against. Ouru can use corruption to get Ruto before Ruto gets him because Ruto will if Ruto-Kagame were to be president. Raila should therefore sit this one out in Bondo and leave room on the stage for this feud be to be settled once and for all.
Kichwa, if Raila did his usual thing, the same "Kenyans feel betrayed" and "opposition leader" crowd we see here would be here in full defense mode demanding that Raila table the evidence of so-call graft before yapping and saying all he does is kelele and no work. It's almost like we are supposed to pretend we haven't seen this routine a hundred times before.
Besides, this a great opportunity to see the famed competence of Ruto at work, not the the lazy old man, Raila. Lets sit back and watch Kagame do his thing people. Do you see Kagame needing a strong opposition in order to efficiently deal with graft? Nope!
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He doesn't want to rock the boat that is the empty handshake. I see Uhuru continue making appointment without even a mkia for Raila. Raila ought to do the right thing always. He is the opposition - and should stop pretending to be in gok - and do his job - of constructive criticism. Not destructive rhetoric.But where it has reached - it appears the honourable thing he need to do is to retire and let new energetic leaders emerge. The problem with Raila is that he is overstayed and people kind have read him over and over. Opposition should when they lose - twice - also retire - and let new blood come in.
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Also this whole "Raila is the leader of opposition" is rich coming from the crowd most opposed to a change into the parliamentary system. You have a legislature filled to the brim with Jubilee 54 percenters. How about they "do the right thing"? Checking the executive, which is their job? Raila is a private citizen without any office or institutional power. Let him tour Bondo, give lectures and enjoy retirement.
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Ruto is in a fight for his life. I do not think he is campaigning for 2022 but he is trying to inoculate himself from the assault that he knows is coming from Uthamaki. The real Uthamaki cannot afford to have an already rich and powerful Ruto also become president. He would dominate them the way Moi could never do and they are scared to hell. Ruto therefore knows they are coming after him and all this running around the country is to prepare himself for the show down which has to be completed before 2020. Ruto is not scared of Odinga dynasty so the war against the "dynasties" is all about Uthamaki. This is how he breaks it down to the smaller tribes. He tells them he is the only one who can take power away from Uthamaki. Ouru knows the dynasty war is purely against him and he knows he should have checked Ruto's amassing of wealth but he drunk too much, focused on Raila too mcuh and Ruto grew too big. Now Ruto is a threat to Ouru's retirement. Ouru must do to Ruto what Moi did to Njonjo and he does not have too much time to do it. If Ouru fails to finish Ruto then Ouru is in danger after he leaves office. Either ouru or Ruto must be sacrificed for corruption. If Ouru does not get Ruto now, Ruto will get him because Ruto is more ruthless and decisive. Raila must stay away from this. Opposition only works in a democracy where the party out of power has a chance of winning elections if they do a good job. In Kenya elections are stolen by the party in power and therefore wasting your time criticing the government is useless because it does not make a difference. Let the people criticize the government themselves. Raila needs to ride this out and if possible get paid a lot of money doing it.
He doesn't want to rock the boat that is the empty handshake. I see Uhuru continue making appointment without even a mkia for Raila. Raila ought to do the right thing always. He is the opposition - and should stop pretending to be in gok - and do his job - of constructive criticism. Not destructive rhetoric.But where it has reached - it appears the honourable thing he need to do is to retire and let new energetic leaders emerge. The problem with Raila is that he is overstayed and people kind have read him over and over. Opposition should when they lose - twice - also retire - and let new blood come in.
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Why Kenyans are mad with Babu is not his silence, but rather the fact that he was bought off so he is effectively neutered. He has not only been silent on graft but even past causes thst he was quite vocal on like Police mowing down his supporters,Miguna.... They feel betrayed,and that’s exactly what the handshake feels like for them. They shed their blood and tears so Babu can be invited to the feast.
Of course his diehard apologists will always attempt to make lemonade out of this lemon,and make some esoteric case out of each and every goof Babu makes
Which Kenyans are these you speak for who feel betrayed? Lol. The ones calling him babu and who been mocking every single move he has made to fight Ouruto since last year, including apologizing for the killers of baby Pendo? People really should mind their glass house before throwing epithets. The internet does not forget, passtor "Pendo's parents killed her and blamed the cops". Hehehe. Talk about master "apologists", yawa. 8)
Ouruto fans should look in their own eye-lids before pointing fingers at anyone. Besides, for people so forgiving of graft and thuggery, it should be very easy to find mercy for "babu" in that bottomless heart of mercy for the simple crime of throwing in the towel. Ati y'all "feel betrayed", so now you were rooting for Miguna and the protests this entire time? :D
It's all projection.
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Yes indeed Ruto is Kagame and will do a good job if given the chance. The dynasties don't want this. Kichwa is right that they are his biggest threat especially Uhuru and Moi. Once Kenya is transformed their dismal legacies will be forgotten - that's the "domination" they fear.
As for the ongoing corruption debate, noone can force Raila to do his job. He is welcome to retire. Ruto is not yet the president and he is doing his part calling for swift investigations and prosecutions. Uhuru remains the President with decisive power. Corruption is raining on his Big Four. This is why we need his ineptitude out of the way in 2022 so we can see Ruto's undiluted action.
I can't wait for the President Ruto years.
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It's not the Deputy leader of govt's duty to stop corruption in government, poor helpless thing that he is. Oh no. That's Raila's unconstitutional duty, wit all the power he exercises in his Karen house. You really can't make this stuff up. :grin: As Ole put it, kicheko sana.
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Kenyans will judge all these events in their choice of president. The corruption, the incompetence, the absconding, the track record. That's why there is the heightened effort to blame all corruption in Kenya on Ruto. It started with Joho a while ago.
This is just politics. Everytime one nears power, they must be baptized by fire. Moi faced it. Kibaki and Saitoti too. Raila has been 'kimundu' for years. When UhuRuto had ICC and Kalonzo was thought to have a shot he was called Judas and watermelon.
It's Ruto's turn to be demonized. I think he's good enough to survive it.
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It's common knowledge there is no way any Kenyan institution can deal with corruption. Let alone retired Raila or even more absurdly William Ruto. That will have to be outsourced by some government not likely to emerge in the near future. On that score alone hk's suggestion that taxes be reduced is very attractive.
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It's common knowledge there is no way any Kenyan institution can deal with corruption. Let alone retired Raila or even more absurdly William Ruto. That will have to be outsourced by some government not likely to emerge in the near future. On that score alone hk's suggestion that taxes be reduced is very attractive.
Sometime back you mentioned that corruption ended in the west through violent revolution. I wonder if this is what we will come to and if we will survive it. The revolution that is.
Anyway it seems babu is being misquoted. He is not silent. He's slaying the dragon from within.
Govt keen on ending corruption, says Raila
https://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/politics/Raila--Govt-to-form-task-force-to-end-corruption/3126390-4581156-fwiu3pz/index.html (https://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/politics/Raila--Govt-to-form-task-force-to-end-corruption/3126390-4581156-fwiu3pz/index.html)
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Raila begins ‘peace envoy’ role as handshake team crafts timelines
https://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/politics/Raila-begins-peace-envoy-role-handshake-team-crafts-timelines/3126390-4581512-hyk21iz/index.html (https://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/politics/Raila-begins-peace-envoy-role-handshake-team-crafts-timelines/3126390-4581512-hyk21iz/index.html)
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Screwball attempts to fix the mess. I would really like to see this NIS-led probe finger Ruto as the corruption mastermind his haters claim he is - which is a big fat lie - and I would drop my support for him. I suspect Uhuru's own cronies in GoK are the biggest thieves. Starting with KRA Commissioner General John Njiraini who Uhuru even protected from mandatory retirement.
Furious Uhuru orders new graft probe
https://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Furious-Uhuru-orders-new-graft-probe/1950946-4581776-f0y820/index.html (https://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Furious-Uhuru-orders-new-graft-probe/1950946-4581776-f0y820/index.html)
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Only Jesus is gonna fix this country. Otherwise the looting should accelerate till everyone plain riots and refuses to pay a single cent to the govt. Only a crisis of that magnitude will lead to change. It has to be so bad that big heads are made to start rolling. Otherwise, donge.
Raila isn't fixing anything from the inside, lol. He is just talking. Like the referendum manenos. It's the legislature that has the mandate of checking govt. The entire legislature, not any so-called 'opposition' or minority. But even the mps are feasting so good luck with that. You want an opposition? Allow Miguna Miguna to come back. He will do some checking for sure. Only prob with him is he lacks Raila's insider connections so will not always quickly blow the whistle as Raila has been doing for a decade. But he will lead any protests once people are completely fed up. MoonKi was right. Things have to approach collapse to get people to act and fix it. Who knows? We might just be approaching that level of bad.
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It's common knowledge there is no way any Kenyan institution can deal with corruption. Let alone retired Raila or even more absurdly William Ruto. That will have to be outsourced by some government not likely to emerge in the near future. On that score alone hk's suggestion that taxes be reduced is very attractive.
Sometime back you mentioned that corruption ended in the west through violent revolution. I wonder if this is what we will come to and if we will survive it. The revolution that is.
Anyway it seems babu is being misquoted. He is not silent. He's slaying the dragon from within.
Govt keen on ending corruption, says Raila
https://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/politics/Raila--Govt-to-form-task-force-to-end-corruption/3126390-4581156-fwiu3pz/index.html (https://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/politics/Raila--Govt-to-form-task-force-to-end-corruption/3126390-4581156-fwiu3pz/index.html)
That was MOON ki’s template. Pundit thinks it will disappear on its own. Me? I think it can be a permanent fixture. It’s a cultural thing. Better to leave hard earned money in peoples pockets.
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Only Jesus is gonna fix this country. Otherwise the looting should accelerate till everyone plain riots and refuses to pay a single cent to the govt. Only a crisis of that magnitude will lead to change. It has to be so bad that big heads are made to start rolling. Otherwise, donge.
Raila isn't fixing anything from the inside, lol. He is just talking. Like the referendum manenos. It's the legislature that has the mandate of checking govt. The entire legislature, not any so-called 'opposition' or minority. But even the mps are feasting so good luck with that. You want an opposition? Allow Miguna Miguna to come back. He will do some checking for sure. Only prob with him is he lacks Raila's insider connections so will not always quickly blow the whistle as Raila has been doing for a decade. But he will lead any protests once people are completely fed up. MoonKi was right. Things have to approach collapse to get people to act and fix it. Who knows? We might just be approaching that level of bad.
Or it can just result in a society that adapts around the morass. A fact of life thing. We always assume - mistakenly IMO - that all societies have the same destination. I see it a bit like evolution. Some are chimps, others bonobos, monkeys, dolphins etc. But we don’t expect the monkey to become a chimp...it has its own path. I mean this in terms of society, not genetically.
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Only Jesus is gonna fix this country. Otherwise the looting should accelerate till everyone plain riots and refuses to pay a single cent to the govt. Only a crisis of that magnitude will lead to change. It has to be so bad that big heads are made to start rolling. Otherwise, donge.
Raila isn't fixing anything from the inside, lol. He is just talking. Like the referendum manenos. It's the legislature that has the mandate of checking govt. The entire legislature, not any so-called 'opposition' or minority. But even the mps are feasting so good luck with that. You want an opposition? Allow Miguna Miguna to come back. He will do some checking for sure. Only prob with him is he lacks Raila's insider connections so will not always quickly blow the whistle as Raila has been doing for a decade. But he will lead any protests once people are completely fed up. MoonKi was right. Things have to approach collapse to get people to act and fix it. Who knows? We might just be approaching that level of bad.
Or it can just result in a society that adapts around the morass. A fact of life thing. We always assume - mistakenly IMO - that all societies have the same destination. I see it a bit like evolution. Some are chimps, others bonobos, monkeys, dolphins etc. But we don’t expect the monkey to become a chimp...it has its own path. I mean this in terms of society, not genetically.
I kinda think that that wont happen only because such societies will collapse. It's not sustainable. And yes, it's cultural. Just now dealing with a situation closer to home with a person who sold jointly owned properties belonging to a chama of ten families and is attempting to pocket 2 thirds of money that belongs to ten families, now led by mostly poor widows. He's not even embarrassed leave alone feeling guilty. It only matters that he can get away with it so he does it. This econ guy I follow on facebook, Ephraim Njenga, he actually is worried that if the wanton borrowing and looting continues unabated, the economy will straight collapse even before we reach the next election cycle. I think alternative societies don't emerge because corruption is not sustainable and leads eventually through a snowball effect to all sorts of bad things down the line, including even a failed state or insecurity/war. It doesn't create a new type of society because it's a cancer, it just destroys them until it's dealt with.
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He was paid enough to silence him
I do not know if he was bought off or not but I hope he asked for a lot of money. Raila spent 10 years in jail, has had his elections stolen three times, he has had billions of money spent demonizing him in the media and ridiculed for exposing corruption. Whatever they paid him, I do not believe is enough but I hope he got paid something from the stolen tax payers money and I hope it was only a down payment with more to come.
Why Kenyans are mad with Babu is not his silence, but rather the fact that he was bought off so he is effectively neutered. He has not only been silent on graft but even past causes thst he was quite vocal on like Police mowing down his supporters,Miguna.... They feel betrayed,and that’s exactly what the handshake feels like for them. They shed their blood and tears so Babu can be invited to the feast.
Of course his diehard apologists will always attempt to make lemonade out of this lemon,and make some esoteric case out of each and every goof Babu makes
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I only disagreed with MoonKi in the sense that once you take that position then what do you do? I think that for a peoples revolution to occur, there still has to be mobilization, inspiration, awareness which requires leadership. I totally disagree with Pundit that it will go away by itself. I think Bmask is right that corruption is here to stay but for that to happen the leaders must make it sustainable. Right now it is not sustainable and the reason why we ask Raila to keep quiet is because we are about to have a war not to finish corruption but to make corruption sustainable for the future leaders to enjoy with some degree of comfort like during the Kenyattaa days and earlier Moi days and also during the nusu mkate days. For politicians, these are the good old days. Ouru and Ruto got us where we are today because they have made corruption unsustainable and the old monies which were made during the "good old days" are furious and they blame Ruto for being too greedy and Ouru being too lazy. To make corruption sustainable, the public must be appeased. Ruto wants to be president and since he has stolen enough, he can now fight corruption to a sustainable level which will still leave him with a lot of room for him and his few favored friends to loot but he can shut it down for others. This is what Uthamaki is scared of. If Ruto becomes president, who will he shut-off? The old kikuyus think it will be them and therefore they want to make sure Ruto does not make it. The old kikuyu money people are therefore on Ouru's case and telling him to stop Ruto at all costs. Ruto on the other hand is enticing new looters into his camp. He is telling them that the other side, "the dynasty" has eaten to much and will never let them eat unless they dislodge them from power and he is the one with the resources and the wherewithal to do that. His argument is very persuasive. Both Ruto and Uthamaki will be bad for Kenya whomever wins because they will they are not interested in democracy and the rule of law, they are only interested in the economy and sustainable looting. For Uthamaki to win they must stop Ruto and the easiest way is to make him the face of corruption. If Ruto wins, he will sacrifice the old monies very early in his administration. There is therefore not going to be a people's revolution, but more like a gang war so that a new, more sustainable order of looting is put in place. The reason why I am excited about this war and want it to happen is because Uthamaki and Ruto may end up killing each other and something better may emerge. Mine is a small hope. That is why I want RAILA to step aside and let it happen. However, if it does not happen, Raila should make sure he is not on the losing side because he is still the hope for many who care about, civil liberties, democracy and the rule of law. Kagame Ruto will kill democracy in what he believes would be economic development like the real Kagame. He will become a dictator, jail and kill opponents but may achieve some economic progress to camouflage and excuse his strongman designs. To me therefore, he is more dangerous because we know how this story ends. It never ends well and Museveni and Kagame are good examples.
It's common knowledge there is no way any Kenyan institution can deal with corruption. Let alone retired Raila or even more absurdly William Ruto. That will have to be outsourced by some government not likely to emerge in the near future. On that score alone hk's suggestion that taxes be reduced is very attractive.
Sometime back you mentioned that corruption ended in the west through violent revolution. I wonder if this is what we will come to and if we will survive it. The revolution that is.
Anyway it seems babu is being misquoted. He is not silent. He's slaying the dragon from within.
Govt keen on ending corruption, says Raila
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That was MOON ki’s template. Pundit thinks it will disappear on its own. Me? I think it can be a permanent fixture. It’s a cultural thing. Better to leave hard earned money in peoples pockets.
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I could be wrong, Kichwa, but I believe Rwanda is much better than the pre-Kagame days.
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I am sure we are better off in Kenya than Rwanda. Yes pre-kagame Rwanda was worse and Kagame should have tried to build a sustainable system that he can leave for the future generation instead of succumbing to the benevolent dictator model. We have had many such models and we know that they do not end well. The so called "economic development" without a democracy with strong institutions to sustain the checks and balances and the rule of law is not sustainable in the long run and will only create new rounds of violence once Kagame is gone.
I could be wrong, Kichwa, but I believe Rwanda is much better than the pre-Kagame days.
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I hope he was paid a lot of money. Its money that is already stolen and was not going to go back to the treasury anyway. However, the silence I am talking about is called "deafening" silence. Kenyans knows Raila's position on corruption because he has spoken about it so many times. What we are therefore saying is that his silence speaks louder while speaking only muddies the waters.
He was paid enough to silence him
I do not know if he was bought off or not but I hope he asked for a lot of money. Raila spent 10 years in jail, has had his elections stolen three times, he has had billions of money spent demonizing him in the media and ridiculed for exposing corruption. Whatever they paid him, I do not believe is enough but I hope he got paid something from the stolen tax payers money and I hope it was only a down payment with more to come.
Why Kenyans are mad with Babu is not his silence, but rather the fact that he was bought off so he is effectively neutered. He has not only been silent on graft but even past causes thst he was quite vocal on like Police mowing down his supporters,Miguna.... They feel betrayed,and that’s exactly what the handshake feels like for them. They shed their blood and tears so Babu can be invited to the feast.
Of course his diehard apologists will always attempt to make lemonade out of this lemon,and make some esoteric case out of each and every goof Babu makes
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I could be wrong, Kichwa, but I believe Rwanda is much better than the pre-Kagame days.
Yabbut where does Rwanda go when he is gone? Rwanda is a ticking time bomb. A very scary and still ongoing if now pent-up history. Uganda might be just slightly better.
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I could be wrong, Kichwa, but I believe Rwanda is much better than the pre-Kagame days.
Yabbut where does Rwanda go when he is gone? Rwanda is a ticking time bomb. A very scary and still ongoing if now pent-up history. Uganda might be just slightly better.
Absolutely! Kizza and other progressives in Uganda may not have succeeded to dislodge Museveni but I think they have planted an appetite for democracy and the rule of law which can be easily reactivated when their strong man is called to glory. Ruto will have a hard time being a benevolent dictator. The educated Kikuyu elite who kept quiet during Ouruto will not have the same loyalty to Ruto and if they gang up with the current activists, Ruto will have to kill, detain and exile a lot of people to be a Kagame in Kenya.
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Bitmask.Yes corruption will reduce on its own if somehow the economy grows.When it become 90s mega looting that affect the economy then that something else.We should focus on growing the economy so we have more opportunities for honest growth.And opposite is also true ..even if you reduce graft to zero like Rwanda its not the magic ward to progress.Rwanda has maybe zero graft but its growing at 1% more than kenya.There is the tendency to exxagerate the effect of graft..in short as long as there is no mega looting...loosing 10b in budget of 25 trillion is no big deal.We should deal with graft like any routine crime.No drama.No exxageration.Just get the systems to deal with inevitable graft...on ongoing way without politicizing.
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The corruption we are talking about in Kenya is not the "normal" corruption. We are talking mega corruption, blatant and in-your-face. The Jomo Kenyattaa day kind of corruption which a lot of people look back to with nostalgia was sustainable because it did not hamper economic growth. The Moi/ouru/Ruto corruption is different-its MEGA-unsustainable. Something big has to happen for Kenya to downgrade from MEGA corruption to normal corruption. That big thing will require a sacrificial lamb. The biggest prize is Ruto. If Ouru can get Ruto on corruption and successfully prosecute him, send him to jail, to exile or pardon him in exchange for complete political emasculation (the Njonjo model), then Ouru can bring up Gidi to wipe the tears of Kalenjins. However, if ouru fails, and Ruto wins, he will have to sacrifice Ouru/Uthamaki at the alter of fighting the mega corruption and then reduce it to "normal" levels. Ruto has a steep hill to climb. He has to survive the coming onslaught, and then ascend to power. Once he is in power then he has to take on Uthamaki and bring them to their knees. That's a tall order and I think he knows it and does not have a choice but to face it head on. Its ironic that the Mega corruption which both Ouru and Ruto have been the biggest beneficiaries, of is also setting Ouru and Ruto on a collision cause that may consume both of them or leave only one of them standing.
Bitmask.Yes corruption will reduce on its own if somehow the economy grows.When it become 90s mega looting that affect the economy then that something else.We should focus on growing the economy so we have more opportunities for honest growth.And opposite is also true ..even if you reduce graft to zero like Rwanda its not the magic ward to progress.Rwanda has maybe zero graft but its growing at 1% more than kenya.There is the tendency to exxagerate the effect of graft..in short as long as there is no mega looting...loosing 10b in budget of 25 trillion is no big deal.We should deal with graft like any routine crime.No drama.No exxageration.Just get the systems to deal with inevitable graft...on ongoing way without politicizing.
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When the economy tank then we can call it mega corruption.Ruto or Raila or Uhuru are too smart to leave their fingerprints n footprints...they have layers n layers of proxies to insulate them.So stop dreaming that Ruto is about to go down...If ICC with their lax evidence standard couldnt nail them..clearly they cant be nailed.Our politicians are too smart n powerful for our criminal systems..The money pass a intricate web of lawyers n bankers that launder the loot and eventually bank it as very very clean money.Those who get caught are the newbies who carry cash in gunny bags...but likes of Uhuru or Ruto or Raila or Moi are top in the game...it come with experience n territory.
The corruption we are talking about in Kenya is not the "normal" corruption. We are talking mega corruption, blatant and in-your-face. The Jomo Kenyattaa day kind of corruption which a lot of people look back to with nostalgia was sustainable because it did not hamper economic growth. The Moi/ouru/Ruto corruption is different-its MEGA-unsustainable. Something big has to happen for Kenya to downgrade from MEGA corruption to normal corruption. That big thing will require a sacrificial lamb. The biggest prize is Ruto. If Ouru can get Ruto on corruption and successfully prosecute him, send him to jail, to exile or pardon him in exchange for complete political emasculation (the Njonjo model), then Ouru can bring up Gidi to wipe the tears of Kalenjins. However, if ouru fails, and Ruto wins, he will have to sacrifice Ouru/Uthamaki at the alter of fighting the mega corruption and then reduce it to "normal" levels. Ruto has a steep hill to climb. He has to survive the coming onslaught, and then ascend to power. Once he is in power then he has to take on Uthamaki and bring them to their knees. That's a tall order and I think he knows it and does not have a choice but to face it head on. Its ironic that the Mega corruption which both Ouru and Ruto have been the biggest beneficiaries, of is also setting Ouru and Ruto on a collision cause that may consume both of them or leave only one of them standing.
Bitmask.Yes corruption will reduce on its own if somehow the economy grows.When it become 90s mega looting that affect the economy then that something else.We should focus on growing the economy so we have more opportunities for honest growth.And opposite is also true ..even if you reduce graft to zero like Rwanda its not the magic ward to progress.Rwanda has maybe zero graft but its growing at 1% more than kenya.There is the tendency to exxagerate the effect of graft..in short as long as there is no mega looting...loosing 10b in budget of 25 trillion is no big deal.We should deal with graft like any routine crime.No drama.No exxageration.Just get the systems to deal with inevitable graft...on ongoing way without politicizing.
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There maybe no evidence to prosecute them in a court of law but in the court of public opinion, one does not need that kind of evidence. When Moi charged Njonjo of being Msaliti, there was really no court evidence. Small people of course will be caught and sent to jail for corruption but to appease wanaichi's appetite for someone big to go down, a sacrificial lamb must be found. If Ouru does not do it to Ruto or tries and fails, Ruto will do it to ouru or to some people around him. Hiyo tuu.
When the economy tank then we can call it mega corruption.Ruto or Raila or Uhuru are too smart to leave their fingerprints n footprints...they have layers n layers of proxies to insulate them.So stop dreaming that Ruto is about to go down...If ICC with their lax evidence standard couldnt nail them..clearly they cant be nailed.Our politicians are too smart n powerful for our criminal systems..The money pass a intricate web of lawyers n bankers that launder the loot and eventually bank it as very very clean money.Those who get caught are the newbies who carry cash in gunny bags...but likes of Uhuru or Ruto or Raila or Moi are top in the game...it come with experience n territory.The corruption we are talking about in Kenya is not the "normal" corruption. We are talking mega corruption, blatant and in-your-face. The Jomo Kenyattaa day kind of corruption which a lot of people look back to with nostalgia was sustainable because it did not hamper economic growth. The Moi/ouru/Ruto corruption is different-its MEGA-unsustainable. Something big has to happen for Kenya to downgrade from MEGA corruption to normal corruption. That big thing will require a sacrificial lamb. The biggest prize is Ruto. If Ouru can get Ruto on corruption and successfully prosecute him, send him to jail, to exile or pardon him in exchange for complete political emasculation (the Njonjo model), then Ouru can bring up Gidi to wipe the tears of Kalenjins. However, if ouru fails, and Ruto wins, he will have to sacrifice Ouru/Uthamaki at the alter of fighting the mega corruption and then reduce it to "normal" levels. Ruto has a steep hill to climb. He has to survive the coming onslaught, and then ascend to power. Once he is in power then he has to take on Uthamaki and bring them to their knees. That's a tall order and I think he knows it and does not have a choice but to face it head on. Its ironic that the Mega corruption which both Ouru and Ruto have been the biggest beneficiaries, of is also setting Ouru and Ruto on a collision cause that may consume both of them or leave only one of them standing.
Bitmask.Yes corruption will reduce on its own if somehow the economy grows.When it become 90s mega looting that affect the economy then that something else.We should focus on growing the economy so we have more opportunities for honest growth.And opposite is also true ..even if you reduce graft to zero like Rwanda its not the magic ward to progress.Rwanda has maybe zero graft but its growing at 1% more than kenya.There is the tendency to exxagerate the effect of graft..in short as long as there is no mega looting...loosing 10b in budget of 25 trillion is no big deal.We should deal with graft like any routine crime.No drama.No exxageration.Just get the systems to deal with inevitable graft...on ongoing way without politicizing.
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Kichwa the part I don't get in your narrative is that Raila should accept part of the loot from Uhuru. He should not.
That Ruto is the big thief and Uhuru is just lazy. I doubt it. Uhuru is the megathief and most of these scandals are by his cronies and financiers. The reason DCI and NIS are leading the probe - and not the EACC - is so that they can go slow and sabotage the cases later after the gullible public is assuaged. EACC would be problematic since it's autonomous.
That "old money" is better than new money. Oh please, the old thieves have looted since independence and there is nothing positive about it. If you're right on this conjecture, at least the new crew might have something different to offer. Uhuru at 5 was a billionaire before Ruto was born. He has corrupt genes and it's unfair to expect him to change.
So in this "gang war" I hope Kenyatta and Moi - the looting families - get cut to size.
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Maybe I was not clear. 1) I do not know whether Raila was given money or not but if, he were, so what! Its money that is already stolen and is not going to go back to wanaichi whether Raila takes it or not. IKO NINI is my question.
2) Both ouru and Ruto are thieves-MEGA thiefs but one of them has to finish the other, its just the way it is. Ouru waited too long to finish Ruto and therefore its going to be harder. Ruto already saw the writing on the wall and is fighting. This running around by Ruto is not about 2022 but about his political survival right now.
3) there is no difference between new stolen money and old stolen money-they are all stolen and the new thieves are even more greedy because they want to catch up with the old money.
4) by attacking the dynasty, Ruto has made it impossible for the old monies to sit around and wait for him to get them. The old monies has not only the monies, but they have the government power that Ruto does not have yet. Ruto is therefore fighting an uphill battle just like Raila was not too long ago. Ruto can win, but I cannot bet on him given the levers of power and the bags of tricks that Uthamaki have at their disposal.
Listen to Ndii if you do not belief me.
Kichwa the part I don't get in your narrative is that Raila should accept part of the loot from Uhuru. He should not.
That Ruto is the big thief and Uhuru is just lazy. I doubt it. Uhuru is the megathief and most of these scandals are by his cronies and financiers. The reason DCI and NIS are leading the probe - and not the EACC - is so that they can go slow and sabotage the cases later after the gullible public is assuaged. EACC would be problematic since it's autonomous.
That "old money" is better than new money. Oh please, the old thieves have looted since independence and there is nothing positive about it. If you're right on this conjecture, at least the new crew might have something different to offer. Uhuru at 5 was a billionaire before Ruto was born. He has corrupt genes and it's unfair to expect him to change.
So in this "gang war" I hope Kenyatta and Moi - the looting families - get cut to size.
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It's always refreshing listening to Ndii. Interesting! I personally don't give 2 cents if Ruto is being targetted by Uhuru or if Uhuru is gonna be targeted by Ruto. Po-tay-to, po-tuh-to. Like asking people to choose between the kettle and the pot. Making noise in Kenya about corruption is useless because elections. Raila should stop involving himself in this corruption narratives and watch things get worse until Kenyans themselves do something about it instead of supporting the corrupt while demanding that others fight the corruption on their behalf. Kenyans are spoilt and that's why graft continues. When Kenyans realize that its everyone's job, then graft will end because the people themselves will make it costly to be caught with your hand in the cookie jar. Moonki was right. If not, then Termie's way of a country founded around corruption is the only hope short of collapse.
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In short Raila should retire. He is ODM party leader - the majority party in our multi-party democracy and he receives funding from treasury - to precisely oversight gov. The problem with Raila is the approach - his criticism is never constructive. It more personalized attacks based on unfounded rumours and therefore yeah it's a very welcome relief that he stay silent - perhaps we can start evidence driven corruption fight.
It's always refreshing listening to Ndii. Interesting! I personally don't give 2 cents if Ruto is being targetted by Uhuru or if Uhuru is gonna be targeted by Ruto. Po-tay-to, po-tuh-to. Like asking people to choose between the kettle and the pot. Making noise in Kenya about corruption is useless because elections. Raila should stop involving himself in this corruption narratives and watch things get worse until Kenyans themselves do something about it instead of supporting the corrupt while demanding that others fight the corruption on their behalf. Kenyans are spoilt and that's why graft continues. When Kenyans realize that its everyone's job, then graft will end because the people themselves will make it costly to be caught with your hand in the cookie jar. Moonki was right. If not, then Termie's way of a country founded around corruption is the only hope short of collapse.
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Restire from what? Raila does not occupy any constitutional office. He is free to spend his time as he wishes and talking about what he wishes. But if I were close to him I would advise him to say nothing at all. Just give lectures. Let Kenyans themselves fight for their own futures, its the only way lasting change happens. Otherwise leaving it to a few people to do it for you, why? Nope. If its ok then its ok and we should accept it as part of our society like Termi says. Evidence driven fight. Who shall collect this evidence? Like I said, if we are comfortable with it then we are confortable with it. Theres no point of useless noise.
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Retire as ODM leader and NASA - I think he already did that - it's upon MaDVD/Kalonzo and others to step up the plate and do the job of making sure gov is kept in check - both within parliament and outside parliament. Wira ni wira. People should do their opposition job. Miguna Miguna is doing it pro-bono - and it would be nice if he can get paid like Raila from treasury to do that.
Restire from what? Raila does not occupy any constitutional office. He is free to spend his time as he wishes and talking about what he wishes. But if I were close to him I would advise him to say nothing at all. Just give lectures. Let Kenyans themselves fight for their own futures, its the only way lasting change happens. Otherwise leaving it to a few people to do it for you, why? Nope. If its ok then its ok and we should accept it as part of our society like Termi says. Evidence driven fight. Who shall collect this evidence? Like I said, if we are comfortable with it then we are confortable with it. Theres no point of useless noise.
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Bitmask.Yes corruption will reduce on its own if somehow the economy grows.When it become 90s mega looting that affect the economy then that something else.We should focus on growing the economy so we have more opportunities for honest growth.And opposite is also true ..even if you reduce graft to zero like Rwanda its not the magic ward to progress.Rwanda has maybe zero graft but its growing at 1% more than kenya.There is the tendency to exxagerate the effect of graft..in short as long as there is no mega looting...loosing 10b in budget of 25 trillion is no big deal.We should deal with graft like any routine crime.No drama.No exxageration.Just get the systems to deal with inevitable graft...on ongoing way without politicizing.
Its true that zero corruption in itself can't necessarily be the panacea to economic growth. However the distortion and misallocation of funds manifest itself in inflated assets. Which would explain why real estate prices in kenya has skyrocketed especially high-end market, explosion of luxury market for vehicles etc. This has real economic consequences which reverberates through entire economy.
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Listen to Ndii if you do not belief me.
There's one thing I can agree with Ndii, overallocation of funds is the problem. To ndii total collapse of financial management system.
seriously how can ifmis be allocated 140b or $1.4b over the last 4 yrs. Ketraco is allocated 280b and yet they can't even build the turkana transmission line to evacuate power from africa largest wind farm? Way back 2015 when government experienced the first cash crunch that's when things really got off the rails. Subsequently the government has been borrowing and now raising taxes to try to keep spending to maintain decent GDP growth. The 4 agenda will only exacerbate the situation but moment of reckoning is nigh.
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IFMIS 1.4B dollars can't be true. Maybe 1.4Kshs - which is more reasonable - Budget making is now parliament+treasury - so you expect parliament will do a thorough job vetting - and I think they do - Mbadi when not politicking does a good job with Rev Mustavi. Ketraco & GDC - they need to be investigated - GDC especially has sunk so much money and I doubt there has been any MW out of their sojurns in Nakuru & Baringo.
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Listen to Ndii if you do not belief me.
There's one thing I can agree with Ndii, overallocation of funds is the problem. To ndii total collapse of financial management system.
seriously how can ifmis be allocated 140b or $1.4b over the last 4 yrs. Ketraco is allocated 280b and yet they can't even build the turkana transmission line to evacuate power from africa largest wind farm? Way back 2015 when government experienced the first cash crunch that's when things really got off the rails. Subsequently the government has been borrowing and now raising taxes to try to keep spending to maintain decent GDP growth. The 4 agenda will only exacerbate the situation but moment of reckoning is nigh.
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Pundito, very soon Raila/odm/luos will be the least of your problems.
1) The split between Ruto and Ouru is no longer just a rumor as you had hoped. Its real and uthamaki is coming after Ruto in full force.
2) Get used to the fact that there is no official opposition party in Kenya anymore until we fix the electoral system or come up with a new form of government that makes sense.
3)ODM/Raila will not play the role of opposition. Anybody who want to criticize the government can do so and anybody who want to support the government can also do so but it is not a job anymore.
Retire as ODM leader and NASA - I think he already did that - it's upon MaDVD/Kalonzo and others to step up the plate and do the job of making sure gov is kept in check - both within parliament and outside parliament. Wira ni wira. People should do their opposition job. Miguna Miguna is doing it pro-bono - and it would be nice if he can get paid like Raila from treasury to do that.
Restire from what? Raila does not occupy any constitutional office. He is free to spend his time as he wishes and talking about what he wishes. But if I were close to him I would advise him to say nothing at all. Just give lectures. Let Kenyans themselves fight for their own futures, its the only way lasting change happens. Otherwise leaving it to a few people to do it for you, why? Nope. If its ok then its ok and we should accept it as part of our society like Termi says. Evidence driven fight. Who shall collect this evidence? Like I said, if we are comfortable with it then we are confortable with it. Theres no point of useless noise.
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Ruto already inherited ODM lock, stock and barrel. Okay we will leave the barrel (Luos) for Raila. You see at this stage - GEMA (Uhuru) will soon be begging Ruto to make them DP. That is how just incredibly resourced and hardworking Ruto has managed to own the country. Ruto has support from entire Rift Valley (even kikuyus there will go rogue if Uhuru tries games); part of western; northern kenya, coast and now even Gusii are warming up. He is accessible, generous and cares for people who matters - so any gema upstart who wants to start a war - ohoo boy - he'll get knocked out with first punch.
Anyway I don't think Uhuru has the stomach for a political fight - he clearly told Raila that much and ended the referendum drama - so he'll just pick his girlfriend Waiguru to deputize Ruto - and possibly his son Muhoho will join politics - to continue the kenyatta legacy of stealing.
And apart from lacking the energy for the fight - Uhuru like any other politician is very corrupt -- you know he ate the whole 10% of SGR alone :) That is a lot of money - Ruto wanted to eat too with DL(David Lagat) - Wanjigi wanted it too - but when Uhuru took it whole - Ruto was smart enough to look for smaller deals - while Wanjigi threw a tantrum.
Pundito, very soon Raila/odm/luos will be the least of your problems.
1) The split between Ruto and Ouru is no longer just a rumor as you had hoped. Its real and uthamaki is coming after Ruto in full force.
2) Get used to the fact that there is no official opposition party in Kenya anymore until we fix the electoral system or come up with a new form of government that makes sense.
3)ODM/Raila will not play the role of opposition. Anybody who want to criticize the government can do so and anybody who want to support the government can also do so but it is not a job anymore.
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Ok Pundit. I know you know the writing is on the wall but you have to put up a brave face for Ruto until the evidence is overwhelming. Uthamaki cannot let Ruto be president because if they do, Ruto will finish them-that's a fact. Another thing, Ruto has bought individuals from every village but that does not mean those people will stand by him when he gets into trouble. As for now, si we just wait and see.
Ruto already inherited ODM lock, stock and barrel. Okay we will leave the barrel (Luos) for Raila. You see at this stage - GEMA (Uhuru) will soon be begging Ruto to make them DP. That is how just incredibly resourced and hardworking Ruto has managed to own the country. Ruto has support from entire Rift Valley (even kikuyus there will go rogue if Uhuru tries games); part of western; northern kenya, coast and now even Gusii are warming up. He is accessible, generous and cares for people who matters - so any gema upstart who wants to start a war - ohoo boy - he'll get knocked out with first punch.
Anyway I don't think Uhuru has the stomach for a political fight - he clearly told Raila that much and ended the referendum drama - so he'll just pick his girlfriend Waiguru to deputize Ruto - and possibly his son Muhoho will join politics - to continue the kenyatta legacy of stealing.
And apart from lacking the energy for the fight - Uhuru like any other politician is very corrupt -- you know he ate the whole 10% of SGR alone :) That is a lot of money - Ruto wanted to eat too with DL(David Lagat) - Wanjigi wanted it too - but when Uhuru took it whole - Ruto was smart enough to look for smaller deals - while Wanjigi threw a tantrum.
Pundito, very soon Raila/odm/luos will be the least of your problems.
1) The split between Ruto and Ouru is no longer just a rumor as you had hoped. Its real and uthamaki is coming after Ruto in full force.
2) Get used to the fact that there is no official opposition party in Kenya anymore until we fix the electoral system or come up with a new form of government that makes sense.
3)ODM/Raila will not play the role of opposition. Anybody who want to criticize the government can do so and anybody who want to support the government can also do so but it is not a job anymore.
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I think you're engaged in delusional thinking as usual; Ruto has deal with Uhuru; that he is the only man he respect; Uthamaki doesn't exist; Uhuru will make a deal for Uhuru come 2022 - and knowing Uhuru he will go for least path of resistance - he cannot extend his term limit - that require cojones - so my bet is he'll put his proxy as Ruto PORK and continue being powerful as Jubilee Party Leader. His orphans (call them Uthamaki) who want to continue eating post-2022 will try to pressure him to extend his rule but Uhuru knows kenyans have no time for such shenagians.
But we shall see..and we can review how far Raila got with his handshake..so far like I told you Raila was going nowhere except as roving ambassador/envoy..that is what Ruto wanted and that is what he got. And way you continue understimating Ruto every year and getting beaten 10-nil.
Ok Pundit. I know you know the writing is on the wall but you have to put up a brave face for Ruto until the evidence is overwhelming. Uthamaki cannot let Ruto be president because if they do, Ruto will finish them-that's a fact. Another thing, Ruto has bought individuals from every village but that does not mean those people will stand by him when he gets into trouble. As for now, si we just wait and see.
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Anyway I don't think Uhuru has the stomach for a political fight - he clearly told Raila that much and ended the referendum drama - so he'll just pick his girlfriend Waiguru to deputize Ruto - and possibly his son Muhoho will join politics - to continue the kenyatta legacy of stealing.
And apart from lacking the energy for the fight - Uhuru like any other politician is very corrupt -- you know he ate the whole 10% of SGR alone :) That is a lot of money - Ruto wanted to eat too with DL(David Lagat) - Wanjigi wanted it too - but when Uhuru took it whole - Ruto was smart enough to look for smaller deals - while Wanjigi threw a tantrum.
This is just what I don't understand. How can Uhuru even be so greedy when his family already stole more than enough? Some things only God can understand, I swear. I know enough people who were saying in 2012/3 ati Uhuru won't steal coz he doesn't need to. Apparently, he's the biggest thief of them all. It's not just that he's allowing his thugs to steal...noooo. He actually tops them all. Somethings are just amazing.
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Remember when I told you that the 10 year each deal was bad for Ruto/kalenjins? Uthamaki is real and they are not stupid to trust Ruto to protect them. Last but not least, Ouruto legacy right now is corruption. I do not think Ruto will survive that legacy and become president. Ouru has to cleanse himself of that legacy. The only way he can do that is to sacrifice Ruto. Ruto atanyolewa bila maji and he needs to start putting soap and water on his head to make it as painless as ever. If I were him, I would make a deal with Ouru-resign and keep some of his wealth.
I think you're engaged in delusional thinking as usual; Ruto has deal with Uhuru; that he is the only man he respect; Uthamaki doesn't exist; Uhuru will make a deal for Uhuru come 2022 - and knowing Uhuru he will go for least path of resistance - he cannot extend his term limit - that require cojones - so my bet is he'll put his proxy as Ruto PORK and continue being powerful as Jubilee Party Leader. His orphans (call them Uthamaki) who want to continue eating post-2022 will try to pressure him to extend his rule but Uhuru knows kenyans have no time for such shenagians.
But we shall see..and we can review how far Raila got with his handshake..so far like I told you Raila was going nowhere except as roving ambassador/envoy..that is what Ruto wanted and that is what he got. And way you continue understimating Ruto every year and getting beaten 10-nil.
Ok Pundit. I know you know the writing is on the wall but you have to put up a brave face for Ruto until the evidence is overwhelming. Uthamaki cannot let Ruto be president because if they do, Ruto will finish them-that's a fact. Another thing, Ruto has bought individuals from every village but that does not mean those people will stand by him when he gets into trouble. As for now, si we just wait and see.
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Greed for money is insatiable and the more one has the more one wants. Its called the primitive acquisition of wealth. Ouru new he had to become the president at all costs to protect himself just as he did with the ICC and that is why the server cannot be opened. Right now Ruto has to be sacrificed first because he is not as protected as Ouru.
Anyway I don't think Uhuru has the stomach for a political fight - he clearly told Raila that much and ended the referendum drama - so he'll just pick his girlfriend Waiguru to deputize Ruto - and possibly his son Muhoho will join politics - to continue the kenyatta legacy of stealing.
And apart from lacking the energy for the fight - Uhuru like any other politician is very corrupt -- you know he ate the whole 10% of SGR alone :) That is a lot of money - Ruto wanted to eat too with DL(David Lagat) - Wanjigi wanted it too - but when Uhuru took it whole - Ruto was smart enough to look for smaller deals - while Wanjigi threw a tantrum.
This is just what I don't understand. How can Uhuru even be so greedy when his family already stole more than enough? Some things only God can understand, I swear. I know enough people who were saying in 2012/3 ati Uhuru won't steal coz he doesn't need to. Apparently, he's the biggest thief of them all. It's not just that he's allowing his thugs to steal...noooo. He actually tops them all. Somethings are just amazing.
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Legacy is the least concern of Uhuru or Raila or Ruto. Making more and more money & having political power post-2022 is what interest him. That is what politician in Kenya really want. And I think Ruto has the best proposal in town...Uhuru spends nearly zero in 2022 campaign, Uhuru proxy continues as DPORK and he continues to wield power as Jubilee party leader advising Ruto. It cost him nothing. Fighting Ruto...Uhuru knows first hand is a stupid move.
Remember when I told you that the 10 year each deal was bad for Ruto/kalenjins? Uthamaki is real and they are not stupid to trust Ruto to protect them. Last but not least, Ouruto legacy right now is corruption. I do not think Ruto will survive that legacy and become president. Ouru has to cleanse himself of that legacy. The only way he can do that is to sacrifice Ruto. Ruto atanyolewa bila maji and he needs to start putting soap and water on his head to make it as painless as ever. If I were him, I would make a deal with Ouru-resign and keep some of his wealth.
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Politics is expensive. The amount of money he lost in ICC and in campaigning in 2002 till now is MASSIVE. Mama Ngina maybe spent more than 10B the last decade and so when Uhuru brought back 30B hard cold cash from Chinese - that was good investment. That is what politics really is about in Africa. It's business. People ran for MCA or MPS - invest a lot of money knowing they'll recoup and if they don't - it huge hit on them.
Raila after he saw what politics did to Jaramogi doesn't want to invest - yet our politics is just money money money - and that is probably why he is not PORK. Someone like Ruto massively invest and recoup his investment. Some of our top politician spend more than 10M daily!
This is just what I don't understand. How can Uhuru even be so greedy when his family already stole more than enough? Some things only God can understand, I swear. I know enough people who were saying in 2012/3 ati Uhuru won't steal coz he doesn't need to. Apparently, he's the biggest thief of them all. It's not just that he's allowing his thugs to steal...noooo. He actually tops them all. Somethings are just amazing.
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Kichwa kweli. Ati Uhuru will arrest Ruto for corruption. :( That's the joke of the week. It's so naive I hope you're pulling our leg. We can't predict 100% that Ruto will be PORK but we can predict he'll not be arrested for corruption. Starting with the charade going on today about fighting it.
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I think you are deliberately NOT straight shooting because straight shooting does not work well for Ruto here. Legacy is not important if you have not made the kind of money Uhuru has. Uhuru needs legacy more than money at this point because that is how old money survive. He needs legacy to keep the Kenyattaa brand going. Raila also understands the benefits of legacy because he is a beneficiary. Legacy like a brand is worth more money. Ruto is not in the same league. Ruto needs to become president first and rule for at least 5 years before he starts thinking of legacy.
The reason why Ouru and Ruto have to go to war is because they are organized like criminal gangs or crime families. Ruto has his own crime family and Ouru has his. They are all operating in the same territory and going after the same criminal proceeds and that is why the fight between the two crime families is inevitable. There is no way these two crime families can be merged now because they have grown too big and independent. Ruto's criminal enterprise will have to be destroyed. There is no way Ouru's crime family will let Ruto come into the presidency with his crime family intact. If they do, their first order of business will be to destroy ouru's crime family because there is no room for the two to survive and if not for fear of Raila, Ouru would not have let Ruto build such an elaborate independent criminal enterprise. We want Raila to stay out of the way so that the two crime families can sort each other out. We will have to deal with whomever wins but right now I think Raila is betting on Uthamaki to win. Its a good bet because Uthamaki has the political power and can use the legal system to clip Ruto's wings. Also, Uthamaki has more more money and experience. Ruto is also making a strong argument that if he wins he will tame Uthamaki, but Uthamaki already knows that and they will go down fighting. Ruto can walk over to Ouru and surrender, but if he does, uthamaki will make to demands that if Ruto accepts, he will be completely emasculated. As Termie once said, the best thing that can happen to Ruto now is Ouru having a massive heart attack right now- the kind his father had. History rarely repeats itself that perfectly.
Legacy is the least concern of Uhuru or Raila or Ruto. Making more and more money & having political power post-2022 is what interest him. That is what politician in Kenya really want. And I think Ruto has the best proposal in town...Uhuru spends nearly zero in 2022 campaign, Uhuru proxy continues as DPORK and he continues to wield power as Jubilee party leader advising Ruto. It cost him nothing. Fighting Ruto...Uhuru knows first hand is a stupid move.
Remember when I told you that the 10 year each deal was bad for Ruto/kalenjins? Uthamaki is real and they are not stupid to trust Ruto to protect them. Last but not least, Ouruto legacy right now is corruption. I do not think Ruto will survive that legacy and become president. Ouru has to cleanse himself of that legacy. The only way he can do that is to sacrifice Ruto. Ruto atanyolewa bila maji and he needs to start putting soap and water on his head to make it as painless as ever. If I were him, I would make a deal with Ouru-resign and keep some of his wealth.
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That's not the way its done. They will clip his wings first by destroying his political/ criminal enterprise which he uses to amass a lot of wealth from the government and business. This will require arresting some of Ruto's consiglieries and capos and shutting down some of their most lucrative enterprises. The idea is to completely emasculate him so that he cannot win the elections in 2022. However, if he proves too powerful then he can also be arrested, forced to flee or the Saitoti model may be applied. This kind of thing is usually done much earlier but Ouru is lazy and a drunk and therefore he let Ruto grow too big. Idealy Ouru should have finished Ruto much earlier and picked a different DP in 2017. Ruto can also throw in the towel, forgo the presidency and live comfortably for the rest of his life like they wanted Raila to do. Ruto's best scenario is Ouru dying in office before 2022.
Kichwa kweli. Ati Uhuru will arrest Ruto for corruption. :( That's the joke of the week. It's so naive I hope you're pulling our leg. We can't predict 100% that Ruto will be PORK but we can predict he'll not be arrested for corruption. Starting with the charade going on today about fighting it.
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kichwa I have thoroughly enjoyed reading your desperate appeal to Uhuru.You know UhuRuto are finishing Raila and you dont like it.Ruto is and will always be co president.Uhuru has had long working relationship and all the politics he learnt from Ruto.The man cannot start attacking his master.Its time for our own Meles Zenawi to rise...brilliant, decisive, hardworking go gotter can only get better..I really pity anybody who wants to take Ruto.They should save their money like the Mois eventually realized.Now Ruto has everything he ever needed to make a stamp...the man rans parliament and senate and half the gov.Ruto doesnt sleep or joke around.His parrallel intelligence probably beats NIS.Save for death..nothing can stop ascending PORK.The 52yrs old is the chosen one.I can bet my last dollar that this Raila handshake idea was Ruto...someone who works for Ruto parrallel intelligence was regaling to me how PK was recently played..the guy was to ran for Muranga governor and he would have been a real threat...but he was tricked to ran in Nairobi with tacit backing from uhuru with understanding sonko would bury him alive..ended up with miguna at 2%.Ruto learned so many tricks from Moi.MaDVD was played 10 nil and later Wamalwa coopted.Ultimately nothing just happens..people like Ruto make it happen.Raila by time he wakes up would already be dead n buried in bondo.Now youre betting your future on some undefined uthamaki...give it a face.Beyond the basics there are spies, double agents and guys paid to confuse n misadvice you.
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No argument there. Right on spot. However, this is why you must take my theory seriously. This acquisition of wealth requires a criminal network/enterprise akin to Mafia. To his credit, Ruto has build an admirable criminal enterprise within such a short time, but he only managed to do that because uthamaki slept on the job because they were probably focusing too much on Raila and afraid that if they interfered with Ruto, he may have derailed them in 2017. Now that Ouru has his presidency in place, he can now focus on Ruto. You cannot have these two big criminal enterprises operating at the same time. Its not good for politics and the economy. One of them therefore has to go and surely it cannot be Uthamaki.
Politics is expensive. The amount of money he lost in ICC and in campaigning in 2002 till now is MASSIVE. Mama Ngina maybe spent more than 10B the last decade and so when Uhuru brought back 30B hard cold cash from Chinese - that was good investment. That is what politics really is about in Africa. It's business. People ran for MCA or MPS - invest a lot of money knowing they'll recoup and if they don't - it huge hit on them.
Raila after he saw what politics did to Jaramogi doesn't want to invest - yet our politics is just money money money - and that is probably why he is not PORK. Someone like Ruto massively invest and recoup his investment. Some of our top politician spend more than 10M daily!
This is just what I don't understand. How can Uhuru even be so greedy when his family already stole more than enough? Some things only God can understand, I swear. I know enough people who were saying in 2012/3 ati Uhuru won't steal coz he doesn't need to. Apparently, he's the biggest thief of them all. It's not just that he's allowing his thugs to steal...noooo. He actually tops them all. Somethings are just amazing.
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Raila to setup task force to deal with corruption..sorry he could not listen to yall as usual he had to wade in with his vitendawili task force....Some one need to tell this guy to go away.
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I did not expect you to take a different position than to show a brave face, but you better pray he wins this battle because if he does not then "our own Meles Zelewi/Kagame " will be still born.
kichwa I have thoroughly enjoyed reading your desperate appeal to Uhuru.You know UhuRuto are finishing Raila and you dont like it.Ruto is and will always be co president.Uhuru has had long working relationship and all the politics he learnt from Ruto.The man cannot start attacking his master.Its time for our own Meles Zenawi to rise...brilliant, decisive, hardworking go gotter can only get better..I really pity anybody who wants to take Ruto.They should save their money like the Mois eventually realized.Now Ruto has everything he ever needed to make a stamp...the man rans parliament and senate and half the gov.Ruto doesnt sleep or joke around.His parrallel intelligence probably beats NIS.Save for death..nothing can stop ascending PORK.The 52yrs old is the chosen one.I can bet my last dollar that this Raila handshake idea was Ruto...someone who works for Ruto parrallel intelligence was regaling to me how PK was recently played..the guy was to ran for Muranga governor and he would have been a real threat...but he was tricked to ran in Nairobi with tacit backing from uhuru with understanding sonko would bury him alive..ended up with miguna at 2%.Ruto learned so many tricks from Moi.MaDVD was played 10 nil and later Wamalwa coopted.Ultimately nothing just happens..people like Ruto make it happen.Raila by time he wakes up would already be dead n buried in bondo.Now youre betting your future on some undefined uthamaki...give it a face.Beyond the basics there are spies, double agents and guys paid to confuse n misadvice you.
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Kichwa is hilarious. What he won't mention is how Raila is "stepping aside" while he is here spilling the big secret. In the meantime ODM is NDP - as Ruto hives off KADU. When Kingi, Jumwa and Nanok openly support Ruto something is really wrong with this "stepping aside". I think Handshake is designed to smoothen these final knivings. If there was an actual war there would be no Raila to negotiate with for the winner. He would be at Kalonzo level.
Reminds me of Musalia "Messi" Madvd - who thought he can pitia kati kati and beat Raila and Uhuru - by claiming he is a safe pair of hands. Before that UhuRuto played Kalonzo like a kid - sending him on shuttle diplomacy and whatnot to do their bidding - before they dumped him. He wound up as Raila runningmate after bashing each other for 5 years :)
The Luo are really desperate to see power switch again from the Kikuyu to the Kalenjin - going 60+ years - and have conjured an opium story of Kalenjin-Kikuyu civil war. I'm told there are many Ruto-bashing kamukunjis - Kisumu, Msa, Jevanjee and every town square - organized by Luos. This won't end well. There will be many delusions, tantrums, riots and deaths - as folks scream at the speeding train - before and after Ruto is sworn in.
kichwa I have thoroughly enjoyed reading your desperate appeal to Uhuru.You know UhuRuto are finishing Raila and you dont like it.Ruto is and will always be co president.Uhuru has had long working relationship and all the politics he learnt from Ruto.The man cannot start attacking his master.Its time for our own Meles Zenawi to rise...brilliant, decisive, hardworking go gotter can only get better..I really pity anybody who wants to take Ruto.They should save their money like the Mois eventually realized.Now Ruto has everything he ever needed to make a stamp...the man rans parliament and senate and half the gov.Ruto doesnt sleep or joke around.His parrallel intelligence probably beats NIS.Save for death..nothing can stop ascending PORK.The 52yrs old is the chosen one.I can bet my last dollar that this Raila handshake idea was Ruto...someone who works for Ruto parrallel intelligence was regaling to me how PK was recently played..the guy was to ran for Muranga governor and he would have been a real threat...but he was tricked to ran in Nairobi with tacit backing from uhuru with understanding sonko would bury him alive..ended up with miguna at 2%.Ruto learned so many tricks from Moi.MaDVD was played 10 nil and later Wamalwa coopted.Ultimately nothing just happens..people like Ruto make it happen.Raila by time he wakes up would already be dead n buried in bondo.Now youre betting your future on some undefined uthamaki...give it a face.Beyond the basics there are spies, double agents and guys paid to confuse n misadvice you.
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Kichwa there is actually not enough space for both Ruto and Raila who have been fighting for non-GEMA since 2002 - which you project to the Kikuyu. One has to die. Nature of the beast. The only "criminal enterprise" being disbanded is ODM :D
I know it's painful to watch as Ruto pushes Raila to the cliff. It's okay to sing a song. Very entertaining.
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They will get there eventually - Ruto ought not to stop until Raila is six feet deep politically. Raila will attempt everything on sunset days - right now he is basically a Jubilee youth winger :)
Kichwa is hilarious. What he won't mention is how Raila is "stepping aside" while he is here spilling the big secret. In the meantime ODM is NDP - as Ruto hives off KADU. When Kingi, Jumwa and Nanok openly support Ruto something is really wrong with this "stepping aside". I think Handshake is designed to smoothen these final knivings. If there was an actual war there would be no Raila to negotiate with for the winner. He would be at Kalonzo level.
Reminds me of Musalia "Messi" Madvd - who thought he can pitia kati kati and beat Raila and Uhuru - by claiming he is a safe pair of hands. Before that UhuRuto played Kalonzo like a kid - sending him on shuttle diplomacy and whatnot to do their bidding - before they dumped him. He wound up as Raila runningmate after bashing each other for 5 years :)
The Luo are really desperate to see power switch again from the Kikuyu to the Kalenjin - going 60+ years - and have conjured an opium story of Kalenjin-Kikuyu civil war. I'm told there are many Ruto-bashing kamukunjis - Kisumu, Msa, Jevanjee and every town square - organized by Luos. This won't end well. There will be many delusions, tantrums, riots and deaths - as folks scream at the speeding train - before and after Ruto is sworn in.
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C'mon Pundit, I know you know I am right. Let me try again. Its a well known political fact all over the world that you do not let your VP grow too big because they stand to gain the most if you die in office. Even Obama got nervous when Biden started hiring political operatives that a VP usually do not need and asked him to cut it out. Uthamaki knows this very well given the way they treated Moi and the way they started cutting down Raila even before Kibaki was sworn in 2002. Kibaki then picked the dying Wamalwa and the old Awori to the VP post. The only reason why they let Ruto grow this big is because they needed Kalenjin vote and the fear that an aggrieved Ruto would team up with Raila and the ICC manenos. Now that ICC manenos are no longer an issue and Raila has shook hands with them, they really do not need Ruto and they have to finish him or emasculate him. Look at the way they are chipping down on him in RV with the Maize manenos and the Keter's are getting bolder. Who do you think is sponsoring them.
Uthamaki knows that if Ruto becomes president, he will do the same or worse to them. There is therefore nothing good that Ruto's presidency can be to Uthamaki. Ruto can ran around putting together another KADU but we already know there are no free and fair elections in Kenya. Raila has spent a fortune and won elections three times and he is not president. Ruto is therefore wasting time and resources running around trying to "win" elections.
Ruto's only path to the presidency is Ouru dying in office. I am sure Ouru is well aware of this and he is taking all kinds of precautions with his security, helicopters, and what and where he eats because he knows what Ruto is capable of.
They will get there eventually - Ruto ought not to stop until Raila is six feet deep politically. Raila will attempt everything on sunset days - right now he is basically a Jubilee youth winger :)
Kichwa is hilarious. What he won't mention is how Raila is "stepping aside" while he is here spilling the big secret. In the meantime ODM is NDP - as Ruto hives off KADU. When Kingi, Jumwa and Nanok openly support Ruto something is really wrong with this "stepping aside". I think Handshake is designed to smoothen these final knivings. If there was an actual war there would be no Raila to negotiate with for the winner. He would be at Kalonzo level.
Reminds me of Musalia "Messi" Madvd - who thought he can pitia kati kati and beat Raila and Uhuru - by claiming he is a safe pair of hands. Before that UhuRuto played Kalonzo like a kid - sending him on shuttle diplomacy and whatnot to do their bidding - before they dumped him. He wound up as Raila runningmate after bashing each other for 5 years :)
The Luo are really desperate to see power switch again from the Kikuyu to the Kalenjin - going 60+ years - and have conjured an opium story of Kalenjin-Kikuyu civil war. I'm told there are many Ruto-bashing kamukunjis - Kisumu, Msa, Jevanjee and every town square - organized by Luos. This won't end well. There will be many delusions, tantrums, riots and deaths - as folks scream at the speeding train - before and after Ruto is sworn in.
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Robina, I know you thought that Ruto was a winning horse and that is why you picked him this time around. You desperately wanted to be on the winning side. I am sorry to rain in your parade.
Kichwa there is actually not enough space for both Ruto and Raila who have been fighting for non-GEMA since 2002 - which you project to the Kikuyu. One has to die. Nature of the beast. The only "criminal enterprise" being disbanded is ODM :D
I know it's painful to watch as Ruto pushes Raila to the cliff. It's okay to sing a song. Very entertaining.
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Anyway I don't think Uhuru has the stomach for a political fight - he clearly told Raila that much and ended the referendum drama - so he'll just pick his girlfriend Waiguru to deputize Ruto - and possibly his son Muhoho will join politics - to continue the kenyatta legacy of stealing.
And apart from lacking the energy for the fight - Uhuru like any other politician is very corrupt -- you know he ate the whole 10% of SGR alone :) That is a lot of money - Ruto wanted to eat too with DL(David Lagat) - Wanjigi wanted it too - but when Uhuru took it whole - Ruto was smart enough to look for smaller deals - while Wanjigi threw a tantrum.
This is just what I don't understand. How can Uhuru even be so greedy when his family already stole more than enough? Some things only God can understand, I swear. I know enough people who were saying in 2012/3 ati Uhuru won't steal coz he doesn't need to. Apparently, he's the biggest thief of them all. It's not just that he's allowing his thugs to steal...noooo. He actually tops them all. Somethings are just amazing.
Well, as long as there are many negroes way above him,he must think ‘bigger’. Maybe that’s the drive