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Title: Tesla Moves Into Trucking
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on November 17, 2017, 06:06:44 PM
Title: Re: Tesla Moves Into Trucking
Post by: Nefertiti on November 17, 2017, 08:24:46 PM
I thought it's just me taken with Musk’s delusions :)

I like the safety & clean power features. The smart brakes thing. I thought they'd be more autonomous - like the cars with Autopilot. That's probably a long way especially in regulation. Stray trucks can be dangerous.

The economics are interesting. Of course we have to discount for the hype. $1.21 v $0.85 per mile compared to a diesel convoy.

My excitement in Musk is his pushing the envelope. He forces an innovation race. It's what we need.
Title: Re: Tesla Moves Into Trucking
Post by: Empedocles on November 17, 2017, 08:59:11 PM
Agreed on his pushing the envelope.
Smart man. A wee bit too optimistic but nevertheless smart.

Title: Re: Tesla Moves Into Trucking
Post by: Georgesoros on November 17, 2017, 09:02:40 PM
I thought it's just me taken with Musk’s delusions :)

I like the safety & clean power features. The smart brakes thing. I thought they'd be more autonomous - like the cars with Autopilot. That's probably a long way especially in regulation. Stray trucks can be dangerous.

The economics are interesting. Of course we have to discount for the hype. $1.21 v $0.85 per mile compared to a diesel convoy.

My excitement in Musk is his pushing the envelope. He forces an innovation race. It's what we need.

Robina,
Keep salivating. Just make sure it doesn't show :):). Tesla is the new Uber, except they actually make stuff.
Title: Re: Tesla Moves Into Trucking
Post by: Nefertiti on November 17, 2017, 09:43:13 PM
Parkerpen, would say Uber is a tech or transport company? How about Airbnb - tech or housing?
Title: Re: Tesla Moves Into Trucking
Post by: Georgesoros on November 17, 2017, 10:31:02 PM
Tesla must make  equipment that is cheaper to maintain, otherwise they'll go out cold. In twenty they'll own the biggest lithium battery centers, charging stations, rooftop solar panels, etc.
AirBnB owns no hospitality building yet they are the biggest hotel co.
Uber owns nothing other than the tech people use.
Amazon and Alibaba are the largest retail operators yet own very little 4-corner space.

Robina. Wheres your boasting???
Title: Re: Tesla Moves Into Trucking
Post by: Nefertiti on November 18, 2017, 05:33:51 PM
Tesla must make  equipment that is cheaper to maintain, otherwise they'll go out cold. In twenty they'll own the biggest lithium battery centers, charging stations, rooftop solar panels, etc.
AirBnB owns no hospitality building yet they are the biggest hotel co.
Uber owns nothing other than the tech people use.
Amazon and Alibaba are the largest retail operators yet own very little 4-corner space.

Robina. Wheres your boasting???

My word is that they are sales companies. They are quite easy to duplicate. Tesla actually cuts metal. There is no proper invention since Einstein even in space. I hope at some point in the near future we will have teleports and time engineering.
Title: Re: Tesla Moves Into Trucking
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on November 18, 2017, 07:47:18 PM
I thought it's just me taken with Musk’s delusions :)

I like the safety & clean power features. The smart brakes thing. I thought they'd be more autonomous - like the cars with Autopilot. That's probably a long way especially in regulation. Stray trucks can be dangerous.

The economics are interesting. Of course we have to discount for the hype. $1.21 v $0.85 per mile compared to a diesel convoy.

My excitement in Musk is his pushing the envelope. He forces an innovation race. It's what we need.

I agree that's good.  I wish he could put his envelope pushing energies into quantum computing.
Title: Re: Tesla Moves Into Trucking
Post by: veritas on November 19, 2017, 12:57:11 PM

that's gay as f. who's gonna drive that? i personally would fear for my safety driving that on some lonely highway.
Title: Re: Tesla Moves Into Trucking
Post by: Nefertiti on November 19, 2017, 05:52:16 PM

that's gay as f. who's gonna drive that? i personally would fear for my safety driving that on some lonely highway.

Wal-Mart says it’s preordered 15 of Tesla’s new electric tractor trailers
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/17/wal-mart-says-its-planning-to-test-teslas-new-electric-trucks.html

Title: Re: Tesla Moves Into Trucking
Post by: Nefertiti on November 19, 2017, 08:11:50 PM
Ooh veri. I agree there's no pressing urgency for hunky semis but what the heck!

Canadian grocery chain orders 25 Tesla electric Semi trucks
(https://tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com/2017/11/semi_front_78.jpg?w=328&zoom=2)
https://techcrunch.com/2017/11/18/canadian-grocery-chain-orders-25-tesla-electric-semi-trucks/
Title: Re: Tesla Moves Into Trucking
Post by: Empedocles on November 19, 2017, 08:22:53 PM
I kind of fear trucks that can go from 0-100km/h in 5 secs on our roads. :D
Title: Re: Tesla Moves Into Trucking
Post by: veritas on November 20, 2017, 12:08:51 PM
Ooh veri. I agree there's no pressing urgency for hunky semis but what the heck!

Canadian grocery chain orders 25 Tesla electric Semi trucks
(https://tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com/2017/11/semi_front_78.jpg?w=328&zoom=2)
https://techcrunch.com/2017/11/18/canadian-grocery-chain-orders-25-tesla-electric-semi-trucks/

This jama copy-cats all his concepts from the late Steve Jobs... I noticed all of his designs revolve around iphones.

(https://white.car/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/MS_Transparent_Background.png)

(http://www.livemint.com/rf/Image-621x414/LiveMint/Period2/2017/08/24/Photos/Processed/spacexnewspacesuit-kabF--621x414@LiveMint.jpg)

(http://image.trucktrend.com/f/103711065+w660+h495+q80+re0+cr1+ar0/nikola-one-class-8-truck-white-left-side-view.jpg)

Problem is these industries thrive on experience and not quackery.
Title: Re: Tesla Moves Into Trucking
Post by: veritas on November 20, 2017, 12:09:45 PM
Concept vehicles are so common it's no joke. Check out Volvo's 2050 concept truck.

(http://www.tuvie.com/wp-content/uploads/volvo-globetrotter-2050-concept-truck-by-rhys-llewellyn4.jpg)
Title: Re: Tesla Moves Into Trucking
Post by: veritas on November 20, 2017, 12:31:05 PM
This one's by Nikola...

(http://performancedrive.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Nikola-One-truck-concept.jpg)

http://performancedrive.com.au/top-10-wild-visions-trucking-future-1800/

(http://performancedrive.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Wal-Mart-WAVE-750x502.jpg)

oh, Walmart have their own ? perhaps Elon forgot to mention the 6500 trucks Walmart uses... as opposed to the dozen he donated...

Quote
Walmart WAVE

US retail chain Wal-Mart’s fleet of 6500 trucks and 55,000 trailers make up a considerable percentage of the US total trucking fleet, so all eyes are on them to meet 2025 CAFE fuel economy standards.

In the spirit of this, it unveiled the Walmart Advanced Vehicle Experience (WAVE) in 2014. It is a collaboration between Great Dane Trailer, Capstone Turbines and Peterbilt.

Featuring a dramatically reshaped cabin, with 20 per cent better aerodynamics, the cabin features a much larger glasshouse for an airier driving experience, despite less surface area. A central driving position helps the driver position the truck more easily as well.

The drivetrain is a combination of microturbine and battery hybrid power while the trailer construction and body feature carbon fibre throughout. Like the SuperTruck, this is a showcase of technology the chain plans to implement, than something intended for production.



what I noticed about Elon groupies - they are disenfranchised iphones. They're just so not happy with Apple at the moment... so they've latched onto their next Messiah - Elon. To them iphones were the best smart phones in the world because it was marketed by Apple, nevermind the fact HTC were the first makers of smart phones and their ingenuity even now kick an iphone's sorry butt. You think an iphone copycat Elon can compete with experience and history? trucks come from the industrial revolution, wartime, NAZIs, this is dark history and Elon just hasn't spilt enough blood to get past more than a gimmick.

Title: Re: Tesla Moves Into Trucking
Post by: Nefertiti on November 20, 2017, 02:09:18 PM
veri i agree Musk's is a cult. He took over from Steve Jobs as an expert marketer with the "real-life Iron Man", etc - personality branding. He has fan pages and groups on reddit and google circles 8) This is why analysts struggle to comprehend a 1% of market company beats GM in value. Mary Barra hates Elon - if you look closely at her interviews you will see her frustration - she says Tesla gets a free pass for incompetence.

Personally I don't see anything creative in auto designs. The electric and safety is what is useful. I am the sole objective Musk fan. :)