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Title: Judges Read to Pay "Ultimate" Price - Maraga
Post by: Omollo on September 19, 2017, 04:22:23 PM
He has come out fighting. He has shown Uhuru the middle finger as he prepares to deliver the detailed judgment tomorrow.
Title: Re: Judges Read to Pay "Ultimate" Price - Maraga
Post by: bryan275 on September 19, 2017, 04:24:21 PM
The judiciary must be protected from the thieving bastards
Title: Re: Judges Read to Pay "Ultimate" Price - Maraga
Post by: RV Pundit on September 19, 2017, 04:28:25 PM
He need to sober up and order investigation into petitions filled against them.Otherwise if he thought it was gonna be a walk in the park to annul election - he thought wrong. 30 tonne truck is halting down their way. If they did their job honestly they will be fine. If they didn't they'll be crushed.
Title: Re: Judges Read to Pay "Ultimate" Price - Maraga
Post by: Mr Mansfield. on September 19, 2017, 04:29:16 PM
I think the Judicial service commission is divided and that is the opinion of one faction of the judicial service commission,Out of the 14 Members of the JSC,Only the following members attended the press conference:

Present.
CJ Maraga,
Justice Mohamed Warsame,
Justice Aggrey Muchelule,
Ms. Emily Ominde,
Mrs. Mercy Deche,
Prof. Tom Ojienda,
Ms. Anne Amadi,
Ms.Philomena Mwilu.

Absent.
Justice Mohamed Khadhar Ibrahim,
Dr. Justice Smokin Wanjala,
Prof. Githu Muigai,
Prof. Margaret Kobia,
Mr. Kipng'etich arap Korir Bett,
Ms. Winifred Waceke Guchu.

Without Prejudice.
Title: Re: Judges Read to Pay "Ultimate" Price - Maraga
Post by: Kichwa on September 19, 2017, 04:30:04 PM
Maraga is Jubilee's worst nightmare. He has unquestionable integrity and he is ready to fight back.  Jubilee used to intimidating, killing and bribing people into submission or using propaganda to take away ones integrity.  They have tried that with Maraga and failed and now Maraga is saying that he is not afraid of death.


He has come out fighting. He has shown Uhuru the middle finger as he prepares to deliver the detailed judgment tomorrow.
Title: Re: Judges Read to Pay "Ultimate" Price - Maraga
Post by: vooke on September 19, 2017, 04:31:53 PM
This negro has porcelain gonads

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Title: Re: Judges Read to Pay "Ultimate" Price - Maraga
Post by: RV Pundit on September 19, 2017, 04:34:24 PM
Yeap - my suspicion is they will try to protect their own - parliament and treasury need to respond by blocking allocation to treasury - withdraw priveleges like security guards and name it - they need to play fair - order investigation to those allegations - and if there is some prima facia evidence - go for tribunal - if not - Uhuru should call for referendum on the judiciary and we remove the security of tenure.
I think the Judicial service commission is divided and that is the opinion of one faction of the judicial service commission,Out of the 14 Members of the JSC,Only the following members attended the press conference:

Present.
CJ Maraga,
Justice Mohamed Warsame,
Justice Aggrey Muchelule,
Ms. Emily Ominde,
Mrs. Mercy Deche,
Prof. Tom Ojienda,
Ms. Anne Amadi,
Ms.Philomena Mwilu.

Absent.
Justice Mohamed Khadhar Ibrahim,
Dr. Justice Smokin Wanjala,
Prof. Githu Muigai,
Prof. Margaret Kobia,
Mr. Kipng'etich arap Korir Bett,
Ms. Winifred Waceke Guchu.

Without Prejudice.
Title: Re: Judges Read to Pay "Ultimate" Price - Maraga
Post by: Kichwa on September 19, 2017, 04:36:08 PM
Crushed then what? Do you really think you can remove these judges and replace them with Kalenjin/Kikuyu judges and still have a country.  You guys are really overestimating your fake majority. Maraga with a stroke of a pen achieved international acclaims-even Hilary was citing the Kenyan SCOK.  Maraga is untouchable. Anything happens to him and that will be the end of politics as we know it know in Kenya right now. Pride is at its highest just before a fall.

He need to sober up and order investigation into petitions filled against them.Otherwise if he thought it was gonna be a walk in the park to annul election - he thought wrong. 30 tonne truck is halting down their way. If they did their job honestly they will be fine. If they didn't they'll be crushed.
Title: Re: Judges Read to Pay "Ultimate" Price - Maraga
Post by: Kadame7 on September 19, 2017, 04:37:23 PM
Let me pre-empt Bryan: The People's Republic!
Title: Re: Judges Read to Pay "Ultimate" Price - Maraga
Post by: Kadame7 on September 19, 2017, 04:40:41 PM
Crushed then what? Do you really think you can remove these judges and replace them with Kalenjin/Kikuyu judges and still have a country.  You guys are really overestimating your fake majority. Maraga with a stroke of a pen achieved international acclaims-even Hilary was citing the Kenyan SCOK.  Maraga is untouchable. Anything happens to him and that will be the end of politics as we know it know in Kenya right now. Pride is at its highest just before a fall.

He need to sober up and order investigation into petitions filled against them.Otherwise if he thought it was gonna be a walk in the park to annul election - he thought wrong. 30 tonne truck is halting down their way. If they did their job honestly they will be fine. If they didn't they'll be crushed.
Tuachane na amani: those who want Moi's judiciary wabaki nayo, and those who want "a strong and independent judiciary" as CJ says tubaki nayo :D
Title: Re: Judges Read to Pay "Ultimate" Price - Maraga
Post by: bryan275 on September 19, 2017, 04:41:35 PM
Let me pre-empt Bryan: The People's Republic!


Yes yes yes.  We the citizens of The People's republic of Kenya will defend the judiciary from the thieving bastardry.
Title: Re: Judges Read to Pay "Ultimate" Price - Maraga
Post by: Omollo on September 19, 2017, 04:44:16 PM
Aiya! Huyu ndugu anayo makende majeuri kama almasi!  :D :D
Title: Re: Judges Read to Pay "Ultimate" Price - Maraga
Post by: RV Pundit on September 19, 2017, 04:44:59 PM
If he did it with clean hands - I will continue to disagree - but if he was under influence - he is dead meat.
Crushed then what? Do you really think you can remove these judges and replace them with Kalenjin/Kikuyu judges and still have a country.  You guys are really overestimating your fake majority. Maraga with a stroke of a pen achieved international acclaims-even Hilary was citing the Kenyan SCOK.  Maraga is untouchable. Anything happens to him and that will be the end of politics as we know it know in Kenya right now. Pride is at its highest just before a fall.
Title: Re: Judges Read to Pay "Ultimate" Price - Maraga
Post by: Kichwa on September 19, 2017, 04:48:32 PM
You must be really desperate. You are going after the integrity of the only Kenyan with the highest level of integrity.  How do you expect to win that war.  Maraga is going to give you guys a dog beating on this issue. Back-off.

If he did it with clean hands - I will continue to disagree - but if he was under influence - he is dead meat.
Crushed then what? Do you really think you can remove these judges and replace them with Kalenjin/Kikuyu judges and still have a country.  You guys are really overestimating your fake majority. Maraga with a stroke of a pen achieved international acclaims-even Hilary was citing the Kenyan SCOK.  Maraga is untouchable. Anything happens to him and that will be the end of politics as we know it know in Kenya right now. Pride is at its highest just before a fall.
Title: Re: Judges Read to Pay "Ultimate" Price - Maraga
Post by: Mr Mansfield. on September 19, 2017, 04:49:17 PM
Listen to Maraga;

If you read paragraph 10,Maraga says that judiciary is equal to the executive,that is he thinks and believes he is equal to the president Uhuru and doesn't give a hoot,

Under paragraph 13 & 14,He goes on to say that power belongs to the people and is calling on Kenyans of goodwill,In short he is calling on the opposition NASA to defend him,

Without Prejudice.
Title: Re: Judges Read to Pay "Ultimate" Price - Maraga
Post by: Omollo on September 19, 2017, 04:51:30 PM
Your list is faulty. Recheck it.
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(1) There is established the Judicial Service Commission.
(2) The Commission shall consist of -

(a) the Chief Justice, who shall be the chairperson of the Commission;
(b) one Supreme Court judge elected by the judges of the Supreme Court;
(c) one Court of Appeal judge elected by the judges of the Court of Appeal;
(d) one High Court judge and one magistrate, one a woman and one a man, elected by the members of the association of judges and magistrates;
(e) the Attorney-General;
(f) two advocates, one a woman and one a man, each of whom has at least fifteen years’ experience, elected by the members of the statutory body responsible for the professional regulation of advocates;
(g) one person nominated by the Public Service Commission; and
(h) one woman and one man to represent the public, not being lawyers, appointed by the President with the approval of the National Assembly.

(3) The Chief Registrar of the Judiciary shall be the Secretary to the Commission.
(4) Members of the Commission, apart from the Chief Justice and the Attorney-General, shall hold office, provided that they remain qualified, for a term of five years and shall be eligible to be nominated for one further term of five years.
I think the Judicial service commission is divided and that is the opinion of one faction of the judicial service commission,Out of the 14 Members of the JSC,Only the following members attended the press conference:

Present.
CJ Maraga,
Justice Mohamed Warsame,
Justice Aggrey Muchelule,
Ms. Emily Ominde,
Mrs. Mercy Deche,
Prof. Tom Ojienda,
Ms. Anne Amadi,
Ms.Philomena Mwilu.

Absent.
Justice Mohamed Khadhar Ibrahim - replaced term expired
Dr. Justice Smokin Wanjala, -sent apologies
Prof. Githu Muigai, - ???
Prof. Margaret Kobia, -???
Mr. Kipng'etich arap Korir Bett, -???
Ms. Winifred Waceke Guchu. ???

Without Prejudice.
Title: Re: Judges Read to Pay "Ultimate" Price - Maraga
Post by: vooke on September 19, 2017, 04:52:56 PM
Aiya! Huyu ndugu anayo makende majeuri kama almasi!  :D :D

Porcelain is the hardest stuff on earth I think. Pray Okoyu don't learn this trick of B&E using spark plug porcelain talking of which I have just called my mech. I need these shards for emergency


Watch this

Title: Re: Judges Read to Pay "Ultimate" Price - Maraga
Post by: Omollo on September 19, 2017, 04:59:06 PM
How will it reach Uhuru without going through the JSC?

Yeap - my suspicion is they will try to protect their own - parliament and treasury need to respond by blocking allocation to treasury - withdraw priveleges like security guards and name it - they need to play fair - order investigation to those allegations - and if there is some prima facia evidence - go for tribunal - if not - Uhuru should call for referendum on the judiciary and we remove the security of tenure.
Title: Re: Judges Read to Pay "Ultimate" Price - Maraga
Post by: vooke on September 19, 2017, 05:00:56 PM
Listen to Maraga;

If you read paragraph 10,Maraga says that judiciary is equal to the executive,that is he thinks and believes he is equal to the president Uhuru and doesn't give a hoot,

Under paragraph 13 & 14,He goes on to say that power belongs to the people and is calling on Kenyans of goodwill,In short he is calling on the opposition NASA to defend him,

Without Prejudice.
Is Judiciary currently SUBSERVIENT to Executive or Legislature?
Title: Re: Judges Read to Pay "Ultimate" Price - Maraga
Post by: Omollo on September 19, 2017, 05:02:18 PM
Are you going to direct the JSC how to conduct its business? BTW it is not Maraga to "order" investigations. It is upto the JSC. It is not bound to respond to all the petitions and the secretary can throw out frivolous petitions.

He need to sober up and order investigation into petitions filled against them.Otherwise if he thought it was gonna be a walk in the park to annul election - he thought wrong. 30 tonne truck is halting down their way. If they did their job honestly they will be fine. If they didn't they'll be crushed.
Title: Re: Judges Read to Pay "Ultimate" Price - Maraga
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on September 19, 2017, 05:05:30 PM
I totally underestimated this guy.  I am sure kamwana and company also feel that way.
Title: Re: Judges Read to Pay "Ultimate" Price - Maraga
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on September 19, 2017, 05:08:32 PM
I had to merge this topic.  Sorry for any inconvenience.
Title: Re: Judges Read to Pay "Ultimate" Price - Maraga
Post by: Kadame7 on September 19, 2017, 05:12:20 PM
I had to merge this topic.  Sorry for any inconvenience.
Couldnt you have kept the other title? I liked vooke's better :D
Title: Re: Judges Read to Pay "Ultimate" Price - Maraga
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on September 19, 2017, 05:13:22 PM
I had to merge this topic.  Sorry for any inconvenience.
Couldnt you have kept the other title? I liked vooke's better :D

I thought of it.  But I had to go with the earlier one.  vooke will have to forgive me.
Title: Re: Judges Read to Pay "Ultimate" Price - Maraga
Post by: vooke on September 19, 2017, 05:15:25 PM
I had to merge this topic.  Sorry for any inconvenience.
The posts are quite disjointed. This forum is not exactly that busy with less than ten threads or thereabouts per day. Merging topics is some powers you invoke very sparingly and only with full reason
Title: Re: Judges Read to Pay "Ultimate" Price - Maraga
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on September 19, 2017, 05:20:02 PM
I had to merge this topic.  Sorry for any inconvenience.
The posts are quite disjointed. This forum is not exactly that busy with less than ten threads or thereabouts per day. Merging topics is some powers you invoke very sparingly and only with full reason

That is why I rarely merge.  But I thought this was a good candidate for a merge.  The forum may not be that busy to you, but I, and maybe others, are actually used to a slower pace - having to jump from one thread to another discussing essentially the same thing can be quite tasking.  Still in retrospect should have asked first.
Title: Re: Judges Read to Pay "Ultimate" Price - Maraga
Post by: vooke on September 19, 2017, 05:25:35 PM
I had to merge this topic.  Sorry for any inconvenience.
The posts are quite disjointed. This forum is not exactly that busy with less than ten threads or thereabouts per day. Merging topics is some powers you invoke very sparingly and only with full reason

That is why I rarely merge.  But I thought this was a good candidate for a merge.  The forum may not be that busy to you, but I, and maybe others, are actually used to a slower pace - having to jump from one thread to another discussing essentially the same thing can be quite tasking.  Still in retrospect should have asked first.
Do be asking. I've seen worse nigh similar threads running undisturbed. You was harsh and perhaps with other motives
Title: Re: Judges Read to Pay "Ultimate" Price - Maraga
Post by: Omollo on September 19, 2017, 05:39:13 PM
see anything wrong or incorrect. Do you?

Listen to Maraga;

If you read paragraph 10,Maraga says that judiciary is equal to the executive,that is he thinks and believes he is equal to the president Uhuru and doesn't give a hoot,

Under paragraph 13 & 14,He goes on to say that power belongs to the people and is calling on Kenyans of goodwill,In short he is calling on the opposition NASA to defend him,

Without Prejudice.
Title: Re: Judges Read to Pay "Ultimate" Price - Maraga
Post by: patel on September 19, 2017, 06:35:36 PM
its time to rename Uhuru highway or Kenyatta avenue to Maraga highway or Maraga Avenue. Maraga the upright man will go far.

Crushed then what? Do you really think you can remove these judges and replace them with Kalenjin/Kikuyu judges and still have a country.  You guys are really overestimating your fake majority. Maraga with a stroke of a pen achieved international acclaims-even Hilary was citing the Kenyan SCOK.  Maraga is untouchable. Anything happens to him and that will be the end of politics as we know it know in Kenya right now. Pride is at its highest just before a fall.

He need to sober up and order investigation into petitions filled against them.Otherwise if he thought it was gonna be a walk in the park to annul election - he thought wrong. 30 tonne truck is halting down their way. If they did their job honestly they will be fine. If they didn't they'll be crushed.
Title: Re: Judges Read to Pay "Ultimate" Price - Maraga
Post by: RV Pundit on September 20, 2017, 07:43:27 AM
Yeah that is dead give away - and he really need to go. 
Listen to Maraga;

If you read paragraph 10,Maraga says that judiciary is equal to the executive,that is he thinks and believes he is equal to the president Uhuru and doesn't give a hoot,

Under paragraph 13 & 14,He goes on to say that power belongs to the people and is calling on Kenyans of goodwill,In short he is calling on the opposition NASA to defend him,

Without Prejudice.
Title: Re: Judges Read to Pay "Ultimate" Price - Maraga
Post by: RV Pundit on September 20, 2017, 07:50:36 AM
And seem to make an issue about demos against him while Gusii have been protesting for weeks. He really need to buckle up because the war on him and his bench just started.
Title: Re: Judges Read to Pay "Ultimate" Price - Maraga
Post by: Omollo on September 20, 2017, 09:46:35 AM
You lost your credibility when you started defending pro-jubilee illegalities.

I am however flattered that you too agree NASA = The People!
Yeah that is dead give away - and he really need to go. 
Listen to Maraga;

If you read paragraph 10,Maraga says that judiciary is equal to the executive,that is he thinks and believes he is equal to the president Uhuru and doesn't give a hoot,

Under paragraph 13 & 14,He goes on to say that power belongs to the people and is calling on Kenyans of goodwill,In short he is calling on the opposition NASA to defend him,

Without Prejudice.
Title: Re: Judges Read to Pay "Ultimate" Price - Maraga
Post by: Kadame7 on September 20, 2017, 10:07:46 AM
And seem to make an issue about demos against him while Gusii have been protesting for weeks. He really need to buckle up because the war on him and his bench just started.
You people are allergic to truth. Maraga clearly acknowledges the right to picket but complains of those that are aggressive/violent and the threats to judges/their families including lack of adequate security provisions. Who did Kisii demonstrators get aggressive towards? The cameras? Lol. To jubilants threatening to withdraw votes from uhuru=violence to them, lol! But keep going. You are the ones that were here cheering the murder of demonstrators in Kibra, Mathare and Kisumu, no? It's nice to see a change of heart re the basic political freedoms. I'm glad you acknowledge them now.
Title: Re: Judges Read to Pay "Ultimate" Price - Maraga
Post by: RV Pundit on September 20, 2017, 11:02:36 AM
I guess you're the inhouse expert on demos. I'll consult you on which demos are menacing and which aren't. As for mr magara - he need to buy a thick skin - coz he made enemy of 8M plus kenyans who are angry with him. That is the reality of this decision.
You people are allergic to truth. Maraga clearly acknowledges the right to picket but complains of those that are aggressive/violent and the threats to judges/their families including lack of adequate security provisions. Who did Kisii demonstrators get aggressive towards? The cameras? Lol. To jubilants threatening to withdraw votes from uhuru=violence to them, lol! But keep going. You are the ones that were here cheering the murder of demonstrators in Kibra, Mathare and Kisumu, no? It's nice to see a change of heart re the basic political freedoms. I'm glad you acknowledge them now.
Title: Re: Judges Read to Pay "Ultimate" Price - Maraga
Post by: RV Pundit on September 20, 2017, 11:03:50 AM
At least I had some credibility. You've never heard any credibility in all my years of interraction from RCB. Your lie about every minute. I don't think I have ever met a pathological liar like you. I wonder what you do when you really have to lie..if you can create lies over anything.
You lost your credibility when you started defending pro-jubilee illegalities.

I am however flattered that you too agree NASA = The People!
Title: Re: Judges Read to Pay "Ultimate" Price - Maraga
Post by: Kadame7 on September 20, 2017, 11:18:51 AM
I guess you're the inhouse expert on demos. I'll consult you on which demos are menacing and which aren't. As for mr magara - he need to buy a thick skin - coz he made enemy of 8M plus kenyans who are angry with him. That is the reality of this decision.
You people are allergic to truth. Maraga clearly acknowledges the right to picket but complains of those that are aggressive/violent and the threats to judges/their families including lack of adequate security provisions. Who did Kisii demonstrators get aggressive towards? The cameras? Lol. To jubilants threatening to withdraw votes from uhuru=violence to them, lol! But keep going. You are the ones that were here cheering the murder of demonstrators in Kibra, Mathare and Kisumu, no? It's nice to see a change of heart re the basic political freedoms. I'm glad you acknowledge them now.
No need for consultation. Everone knows Uhuru is not in any danger from Kisiis except the danger of losing votes which some Jubilants unabashedly equate with actual danger :D Have you seen him complain of aggression from them or anyone else and lack of security? :D Meanwhile, our judges complain that they and their families are under direct threat and don't have adequate security.
Title: Re: Judges Read to Pay "Ultimate" Price - Maraga
Post by: Omollo on September 20, 2017, 11:20:16 AM
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At least I had some credibility. You've never heard any credibility in all my years of interraction from RCB. Your lie about every minute. I don't think I have ever met a pathological liar like you. I wonder what you do when you really have to lie..if you can create lies over anything.
You lost your credibility when you started defending pro-jubilee illegalities.

I am however flattered that you too agree NASA = The People!
Title: Re: Judges Read to Pay "Ultimate" Price - Maraga
Post by: RV Pundit on September 20, 2017, 11:25:45 AM
So it's okay to demonstrate against Uhuru but not Magara who in his own word is PRESIDENT OF JUDICIARY - AN EQUAL BRANCH OF GOK. What cheek? You want to have your cake and eat it. The demonstration and aggression will continue until those petitions are cleared up. If Magara and his gang of 4 are clean - they have nothing to worry. Gusii should demo everyday if they want just like Kikuyus should also demo every day. Nobody should have a problem with peaceful demos. The moment it become violent - like those kibera or kisumu goons throwing stones - then police have to meet them with equal force.
No need for consultation. Everone knows Uhuru is not in any danger from Kisiis except the danger of losing votes which some Jubilants unabashedly equate with actual danger :D Have you seen him complain of aggression from them or anyone else and lack of security? :D Meanwhile, our judges complain that they and their families are under direct threat and don't have adequate security.
Title: Re: Judges Read to Pay "Ultimate" Price - Maraga
Post by: Kadame7 on September 20, 2017, 11:41:44 AM
So it's okay to demonstrate against Uhuru but not Magara who in his own word is PRESIDENT OF JUDICIARY - AN EQUAL BRANCH OF GOK. What cheek? You want to have your cake and eat it. The demonstration and aggression will continue until those petitions are cleared up. If Magara and his gang of 4 are clean - they have nothing to worry. Gusii should demo everyday if they want just like Kikuyus should also demo every day. Nobody should have a problem with peaceful demos. The moment it become violent - like those kibera or kisumu goons throwing stones - then police have to meet them with equal force.
No need for consultation. Everone knows Uhuru is not in any danger from Kisiis except the danger of losing votes which some Jubilants unabashedly equate with actual danger :D Have you seen him complain of aggression from them or anyone else and lack of security? :D Meanwhile, our judges complain that they and their families are under direct threat and don't have adequate security.
Sawa boss. Keep at it.