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Title: Safran - Mopho facts - for NASA desperados
Post by: RV Pundit on September 18, 2017, 09:41:02 PM
This french multinational that manufactures everything from rockets to Sagem phones to name it. Morpho is their biometric subsidiary. It partially owned by French gok.

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Safran S.A. is a French multinational aircraft engine, rocket engine, aerospace-component, defense, and security company. It was formed by a merger between the aircraft and rocket engine manufacturer and aerospace component manufacturer group SNECMA and the security company SAGEM in 2005. Its headquarters are located in Paris. The company is a component of the Euro Stoxx 50 stock market index.[4]

It's shareholding is here
Public: 63.5%%
French Republic: 22%[19][20]
Employees: 14.4%
Treasury shares: 0.1%
Raila brought this Safran-Morpho during his tenure as nusu mkate chief procurement officer for IEBC as part of some brokered gov to gove - canadian -french deal  - now in his desperate madness he is turning on everything and everyone and claiming Jubilee has compromised everything including the sun.

I am not sure how you intend to take down such a conglomerate :) with pesa nane propaganda that can truly be costly if the frenchies think you're moving their frog :)
 
Title: Re: Safran - Mopho facts - for NASA desperados
Post by: patel on September 18, 2017, 09:50:21 PM
No one wants to take down your so called 'international conglomerate' all we are saying they can go build their rockets or fly a kite away from Kenya. They were part of electoral crime and they should be punished. Nasa should sue them and demand the resources they used to campaign be refunded by morpho thieves.
Title: Re: Safran - Mopho facts - for NASA desperados
Post by: RV Pundit on September 18, 2017, 09:52:32 PM
Bla bla from the resident fool who should go back to choo.com. I am pretty sure choo.com is missing their resident moron. You clearly don't understand what SAFRAN-MORPHO is. Pray god they don't sue Raila odinga.
No one wants to take down your so called 'international conglomerate' all we are saying they can go build their rockets or fly a kite away from Kenya. They were part of electoral crime and they should be punished. Nasa should sue them and demand the resources they used to campaign be refunded by morpho thieves.
Title: Re: Safran - Mopho facts - for NASA desperados
Post by: Omollo on September 18, 2017, 09:55:31 PM
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French court fines Safran for Nigerian bribes
Reuters Staff

PARIS, Sept 5 (Reuters) - French aeronautics and defence group Safran was fined 500,000 euros ($630,000) on Wednesday by a Paris court for bribing public officials in Nigeria to win a contract in 2000/03.

Investigating magistrates found that the bribes had helped Safran win a 170 million euro contract to make more than 70 million identity cards.

Safran, 30 percent state-owned, said it would appeal, adding: “Safran would like to point out that it is deeply attached to the strict respect of anti-corruption rules”.

Foreign corruption rulings against big French companies are rare in France. A report from the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development that was leaked in July said French authorities lacked the resources to fight possible corruption in big export contracts.

Prosecutors had originally sought to have the Safran case dismissed, but did not lodge any formal request at the trial in June. The court let off two of the company’s executives, for whom prosecutors had sought a suspended sentence of up to 18 months and fines of 15,000 euros each.

Like all members of the OECD, France is part of the its convention against the bribery of foreign officials, which requires that the practice be a criminal offence. ($1 = 0.7961 euro) (Reporting by Thierry Leveque; Writing by Leigh Thomas; Editing by Dan Lalor)

http://www.reuters.com/article/safran-fine-nigeria/french-court-fines-safran-for-nigerian-bribes-idUSL6E8K5CGF20120905
Title: Re: Safran - Mopho facts - for NASA desperados
Post by: Omollo on September 18, 2017, 09:57:53 PM
Title: Re: Safran - Mopho facts - for NASA desperados
Post by: Omollo on September 18, 2017, 10:00:37 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Leasing_scandal
Title: Re: Safran - Mopho facts - for NASA desperados
Post by: RV Pundit on September 18, 2017, 10:03:16 PM
The higher french court overturn that rulling and found Safran not guilty. Safran -morpho is raila baby. He brought it to kenya. Of course now that he has no path to victory - anything and everything is evil - including his own creation Safran-Morpho.
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French court fines Safran for Nigerian bribes
Reuters Staff

PARIS, Sept 5 (Reuters) - French aeronautics and defence group Safran was fined 500,000 euros ($630,000) on Wednesday by a Paris court for bribing public officials in Nigeria to win a contract in 2000/03.

Investigating magistrates found that the bribes had helped Safran win a 170 million euro contract to make more than 70 million identity cards.

Safran, 30 percent state-owned, said it would appeal, adding: “Safran would like to point out that it is deeply attached to the strict respect of anti-corruption rules”.

Foreign corruption rulings against big French companies are rare in France. A report from the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development that was leaked in July said French authorities lacked the resources to fight possible corruption in big export contracts.

Prosecutors had originally sought to have the Safran case dismissed, but did not lodge any formal request at the trial in June. The court let off two of the company’s executives, for whom prosecutors had sought a suspended sentence of up to 18 months and fines of 15,000 euros each.

Like all members of the OECD, France is part of the its convention against the bribery of foreign officials, which requires that the practice be a criminal offence. ($1 = 0.7961 euro) (Reporting by Thierry Leveque; Writing by Leigh Thomas; Editing by Dan Lalor)

http://www.reuters.com/article/safran-fine-nigeria/french-court-fines-safran-for-nigerian-bribes-idUSL6E8K5CGF20120905
Title: Re: Safran - Mopho facts - for NASA desperados
Post by: RV Pundit on September 18, 2017, 10:03:55 PM
Maybe another Morpho. Safran- Morpho is one big conglomerate. Raila who Dr Ndoom works for brought Safran-Morpho to kenya in 2012 as part of Gov to Gov contracting. So if anything - Raila should take the blame.
Title: Re: Safran - Mopho facts - for NASA desperados
Post by: patel on September 18, 2017, 10:04:11 PM
That's quite a mouthful I gather cholera has finally caught up with b or Kimetrica stock has tanked..what if I told you I have personally worked on safran aerospace project?
Bla bla from the resident fool who should go back to choo.com. I am pretty sure choo.com is missing their resident moron. You clearly don't understand what SAFRAN-MORPHO is. Pray god they don't sue Raila odinga.
No one wants to take down your so called 'international conglomerate' all we are saying they can go build their rockets or fly a kite away from Kenya. They were part of electoral crime and they should be punished. Nasa should sue them and demand the resources they used to campaign be refunded by morpho thieves.
Title: Re: Safran - Mopho facts - for NASA desperados
Post by: Kichwa on September 18, 2017, 10:05:47 PM
I am sure their lawyers will advise them not to sue Raila.  First, they do not have a reputation to protect after being found guilty of participating in corruption in an African country just like Kenya. 2nd, the defense for defamation is "truth" and Raila has the Magara court findings of "irregularities and illegalities" by IEBC.  Raila should beg them to sue him.

Bla bla from the resident fool who should go back to choo.com. I am pretty sure choo.com is missing their resident moron. You clearly don't understand what SAFRAN-MORPHO is. Pray god they don't sue Raila odinga.
No one wants to take down your so called 'international conglomerate' all we are saying they can go build their rockets or fly a kite away from Kenya. They were part of electoral crime and they should be punished. Nasa should sue them and demand the resources they used to campaign be refunded by morpho thieves.
Title: Re: Safran - Mopho facts - for NASA desperados
Post by: patel on September 18, 2017, 10:06:41 PM
So because it's Raila baby Kenyans should sit and watch them commit electoral fraud. ...where is logic mr.
Computer scientists? 
The higher french court overturn that rulling and found Safran not guilty. Safran -morpho is raila baby. He brought it to kenya. Of course now that he has no path to victory - anything and everything is evil - including his own creation Safran-Morpho.
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French court fines Safran for Nigerian bribes
Reuters Staff

PARIS, Sept 5 (Reuters) - French aeronautics and defence group Safran was fined 500,000 euros ($630,000) on Wednesday by a Paris court for bribing public officials in Nigeria to win a contract in 2000/03.

Investigating magistrates found that the bribes had helped Safran win a 170 million euro contract to make more than 70 million identity cards.

Safran, 30 percent state-owned, said it would appeal, adding: “Safran would like to point out that it is deeply attached to the strict respect of anti-corruption rules”.

Foreign corruption rulings against big French companies are rare in France. A report from the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development that was leaked in July said French authorities lacked the resources to fight possible corruption in big export contracts.

Prosecutors had originally sought to have the Safran case dismissed, but did not lodge any formal request at the trial in June. The court let off two of the company’s executives, for whom prosecutors had sought a suspended sentence of up to 18 months and fines of 15,000 euros each.

Like all members of the OECD, France is part of the its convention against the bribery of foreign officials, which requires that the practice be a criminal offence. ($1 = 0.7961 euro) (Reporting by Thierry Leveque; Writing by Leigh Thomas; Editing by Dan Lalor)

http://www.reuters.com/article/safran-fine-nigeria/french-court-fines-safran-for-nigerian-bribes-idUSL6E8K5CGF20120905
Title: Re: Safran - Mopho facts - for NASA desperados
Post by: RV Pundit on September 18, 2017, 10:08:50 PM
However, the ruling was overturned by the Paris Court of Appeal . You guys are taking on everyone. You see this animal Raila brought as French and Kenya Gov agreement. It's a big animal owned by french gov that actually manufacture rockets and is not ready to be dragged thro mud by some perenial loser.
I am sure their lawyers will advise them not to sue Raila.  First, they do not have a reputation to protect after being found guilty of participating in corruption in an African country just like Kenya. 2nd, the defense for defamation is "truth" and Raila has the Magara court findings of "irregularities and illegalities" by IEBC.  Raila should beg them to sue him.

Bla bla from the resident fool who should go back to choo.com. I am pretty sure choo.com is missing their resident moron. You clearly don't understand what SAFRAN-MORPHO is. Pray god they don't sue Raila odinga.
No one wants to take down your so called 'international conglomerate' all we are saying they can go build their rockets or fly a kite away from Kenya. They were part of electoral crime and they should be punished. Nasa should sue them and demand the resources they used to campaign be refunded by morpho thieves.
Title: Re: Safran - Mopho facts - for NASA desperados
Post by: patel on September 18, 2017, 10:09:46 PM
Sometimes logic is very foreign to jubilee idiots. Let morpho sue so we can have a full disclosure
I am sure their lawyers will advise them not to sue Raila.  First, they do not have a reputation to protect after being found guilty of participating in corruption in an African country just like Kenya. 2nd, the defense for defamation is "truth" and Raila has the Magara court findings of "irregularities and illegalities" by IEBC.  Raila should beg them to sue him.

Bla bla from the resident fool who should go back to choo.com. I am pretty sure choo.com is missing their resident moron. You clearly don't understand what SAFRAN-MORPHO is. Pray god they don't sue Raila odinga.
No one wants to take down your so called 'international conglomerate' all we are saying they can go build their rockets or fly a kite away from Kenya. They were part of electoral crime and they should be punished. Nasa should sue them and demand the resources they used to campaign be refunded by morpho thieves.
Title: Re: Safran - Mopho facts - for NASA desperados
Post by: Omollo on September 18, 2017, 10:14:30 PM
I guess thez are still sleeping in Paris and hence zou treat us to a rumor without proof. When Muite wakes them up, please favor me with the proof of the successful appeal

The higher french court overturn that rulling and found Safran not guilty. Safran -morpho is raila baby. He brought it to kenya. Of course now that he has no path to victory - anything and everything is evil - including his own creation Safran-Morpho.
Title: Re: Safran - Mopho facts - for NASA desperados
Post by: RV Pundit on September 18, 2017, 10:16:19 PM
Concerning recent transnational cases prosecuted in France, in September 2012 the Paris Criminal District Court fined Safran €500,000 for paying bribes to Nigerian officials to secure a contract to produce national ID cards. However, the ruling was overturned by the Paris Court of Appeal on January 2015 as an "insufficiently grounded" offence.
I guess thez are still sleeping in Paris and hence zou treat us to a rumor without proof. When Muite wakes them up, please favor me with the proof of the successful appeal

The higher french court overturn that rulling and found Safran not guilty. Safran -morpho is raila baby. He brought it to kenya. Of course now that he has no path to victory - anything and everything is evil - including his own creation Safran-Morpho.
Title: Re: Safran - Mopho facts - for NASA desperados
Post by: patel on September 18, 2017, 10:21:59 PM
Hsbc is always involved in all kind of financial crimes but you will never see any ruling against them because they always settle out of court. Boeing is 100 times larger than you called morpho non sense but they get sued. If you don't want your reputation dragged through the mud don't commit electoral fraud. 
Title: Re: Safran - Mopho facts - for NASA desperados
Post by: Omollo on September 18, 2017, 10:23:18 PM
That is another Jubilee LIE.

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Mr Kinyua told the Public Accounts Committee (PAC) that the French Government, through its ambassador, had written a letter to Raila expressing interest in the lucrative tender to supply the voter registration kits to the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission (IEBC).

The former Finance permanent secretary, however, explained by the time the letter was tabled before the technical committee that had been tasked by the Cabinet to work out the details of the tender, the deal with the Canadian authorities had been commenced.

It also emerged that even after the technical committee declined to pursue the deal with the French authorities, they eventually benefitted in the deal as it was their company, Safran Morpho, that ended up supplying IEBC with the kits.

But Kinyua defended Raila’s involvement, saying he participated in the process in his capacity as the chairman of the Cabinet sub-committee that was formed to oversee the acquisition of the devices.

Challenged by the Balambala MP Abdikadir Aden to explain why he “brushed off” the directive from Raila that he considers the interests expressed by the French government to supply the gadgets, and instead wrote a letter to the Canadian government asking it to confirm it would still finance the deal, Kinyua said he had acted in “absolute good faith”.

“We did not want to get into another negotiation when we had already agreed on a deal with Canada and asked them to commence the process. It would have certainly not been courteous,” said Kinyua.

Kinyua said after IEBC failed to agree on the procurement of the gadgets, they approached retired President Mwai Kibaki and Raila, seeking the Government’s help in the purchase of the devices.

He also denied claims by the sessional chairman, Suba MP John Mbadi, that the Government incurred more loss by dealing with an intermediary, Canadian Commercial Corporation, who it had to pay a brokerage fee.

“The Canadian Commercial Corporation is an agent of the Canadian government, it is not a broker and because we were borrowing we had to pay a commitment and management fee,” explained Kinyua.

https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2000178673/raila-odinga-s-name-features-in-probe-on-biometric-voter-registration-kits

However, the ruling was overturned by the Paris Court of Appeal . You guys are taking on everyone. You see this animal Raila brought as French and Kenya Gov agreement. It's a big animal owned by french gov that actually manufacture rockets and is not ready to be dragged thro mud by some perenial loser.
I am sure their lawyers will advise them not to sue Raila.  First, they do not have a reputation to protect after being found guilty of participating in corruption in an African country just like Kenya. 2nd, the defense for defamation is "truth" and Raila has the Magara court findings of "irregularities and illegalities" by IEBC.  Raila should beg them to sue him.

Bla bla from the resident fool who should go back to choo.com. I am pretty sure choo.com is missing their resident moron. You clearly don't understand what SAFRAN-MORPHO is. Pray god they don't sue Raila odinga.
No one wants to take down your so called 'international conglomerate' all we are saying they can go build their rockets or fly a kite away from Kenya. They were part of electoral crime and they should be punished. Nasa should sue them and demand the resources they used to campaign be refunded by morpho thieves.
Title: Re: Safran - Mopho facts - for NASA desperados
Post by: Omollo on September 18, 2017, 10:30:33 PM
French law recognizes a third plea. The same one that the IMF woman has on her head but still calls the shots.

Now let's go to Anglo Leasing. When were they acquitted?
Title: Re: Safran - Mopho facts - for NASA desperados
Post by: RV Pundit on September 18, 2017, 10:32:38 PM
Which one - Raila has been Safran-Morpho chief agent since 2012.
That is another Jubilee LIE.
Title: Re: Safran - Mopho facts - for NASA desperados
Post by: RV Pundit on September 18, 2017, 10:34:11 PM
Ango leasing ni yako. First proof it same morpho  or safran-morpho we are talking about.
French law recognizes a third plea. The same one that the IMF woman has on her head but still calls the shots t

Now let's go to Anglo Leasing. When were they acquitted?

Title: Re: Safran - Mopho facts - for NASA desperados
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on September 18, 2017, 10:37:06 PM
While they may manufacture rockets, they are yet figure out what happened to 40,883 KIEMS kits.  Can they categorically state that any of those things worked on election day?  And if they did, where is the evidence?
Title: Re: Safran - Mopho facts - for NASA desperados
Post by: vooke on September 18, 2017, 11:32:43 PM
Why was they brought on board yet two years before they had been fined for bribery? NASWA are out on a limb.

It's hard running away from his intimacy with Safran.

That aside, what exactly did they do?
Title: Re: Safran - Mopho facts - for NASA desperados
Post by: Omollo on September 19, 2017, 12:24:31 AM
Stop posting while drinking
Ango leasing ni yako. First proof it same morpho  or safran-morpho we are talking about.
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Oberthur Technologies (OT) and Safran Identity & Security (Morpho) are joining forces to create a world leader in digital security & identification technologies with the ambition to empower citizens and consumers alike to interact, pay, connect, commute, travel and even vote safely in ways that are now possible in a connected world.

Last September, Safran announced that it had entered into exclusive negotiations with Advent International, the owner of Oberthur Technologies since 2011, to sell its identity and security activities and the transaction was finalized on 31st May 2017.

With a mix of complementary activities addressing the specific needs of five major industries (Financial services, Telecom, Identity, Security and IoT), OT-Morpho has an extensive global presence and a unique technological expertise (Biometrics, Authentication, Digital security, Data and video analytics).
https://www.morpho.com/en/about-us
Title: Re: Safran - Mopho facts - for NASA desperados
Post by: Omollo on September 19, 2017, 12:33:44 AM
The French Ambassador wrote to the Government of Kenya. The letter went to The Head of the Civil Service CC Finance (headed by Uhuru). He passed it on to the Cabinent Committee headed by the Prime Minister. France offered to pay or finance the deal. Canada made a similar offer.

The matter is left to IEBC and Finance. They strike a deal. Canada finances (loans) and the canadian company sub-contracts Safran. Uhuru as Finance minister and Kinyua and PS know the details. How is that NASA's baby?

Whatever they got was so sweet they single sourced Safran again. You have more intelligence than an average Uthamaki idiot to know Uhuru would not contract a company linked to Raila. The local agents of Morpho are all Uthamakistanis.


Why was they brought on board yet two years before they had been fined for bribery? NASWA are out on a limb.

It's hard running away from his intimacy with Safran.

That aside, what exactly did they do?
Title: Re: Safran - Mopho facts - for NASA desperados
Post by: RV Pundit on September 19, 2017, 04:34:01 AM
They already did that but of course you won't listen to them. They have done internal audit and found their systems were not hacked - nobody attempted it.
While they may manufacture rockets, they are yet figure out what happened to 40,883 KIEMS kits.  Can they categorically state that any of those things worked on election day?  And if they did, where is the evidence?
Title: Re: Safran - Mopho facts - for NASA desperados
Post by: RV Pundit on September 19, 2017, 04:34:40 AM
That is just wanjigi stew - where he dropped names to win doggy contracts.
Stop posting while drinking
Ango leasing ni yako. First proof it same morpho  or safran-morpho we are talking about.
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Oberthur Technologies (OT) and Safran Identity & Security (Morpho) are joining forces to create a world leader in digital security & identification technologies with the ambition to empower citizens and consumers alike to interact, pay, connect, commute, travel and even vote safely in ways that are now possible in a connected world.

Last September, Safran announced that it had entered into exclusive negotiations with Advent International, the owner of Oberthur Technologies since 2011, to sell its identity and security activities and the transaction was finalized on 31st May 2017.

With a mix of complementary activities addressing the specific needs of five major industries (Financial services, Telecom, Identity, Security and IoT), OT-Morpho has an extensive global presence and a unique technological expertise (Biometrics, Authentication, Digital security, Data and video analytics).
https://www.morpho.com/en/about-us

Title: Re: Safran - Mopho facts - for NASA desperados
Post by: RV Pundit on September 19, 2017, 06:58:28 AM
Safran was Raila baby - but now because they cannot make Raila pork - they must go together with Safaricom and Telkom :)

"I was in charge of the constitutional docket under Raila when he, Mr Orengo and Caroli Omondi proposed the company to be given a direct contract to supply the kits. We did it and I do not know what has changed that they now want it (the firm) punished," said Wamalwa.
Read more at: https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001254931/jubilee-party-drags-raila-odinga-s-name-into-safran-saga
Title: Re: Safran - Mopho facts - for NASA desperados
Post by: Omollo on September 19, 2017, 12:42:10 PM
Wamalwa is headed to the dustbin of history. You too are heading to a hard place with the LIES you have decided to embrace.

Safran was never given any contract. If so please favor us with a copy. You have opted to go full blast with LIES.

I note the campaign against Judges as you shit bricks waiting for the judgment. I note that you have already pronounced the yourself on the judgment BEFORE you see it.

I think I will henceforth put you on IGNORE. One Njamlik is enough.
Safran was Raila baby - but now because they cannot make Raila pork - they must go together with Safaricom and Telkom :)

"I was in charge of the constitutional docket under Raila when he, Mr Orengo and Caroli Omondi proposed the company to be given a direct contract to supply the kits. We did it and I do not know what has changed that they now want it (the firm) punished," said Wamalwa.
Read more at: https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001254931/jubilee-party-drags-raila-odinga-s-name-into-safran-saga