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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on August 11, 2017, 07:46:47 PM
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That is only option that can redeem NASa.Then regroup.it going to be extremely difficult 10yrs but UhuRuto conceded in 2002 and now they are top.This is not the of the world.youve lost fair n square.By huge margin Just concede and reclaim some respect.Youre not the first sore losers.Youre making a bad situation worse.
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They have just declared war.
If NASWA feels cheated, the country should burn on this account
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From frying pan to fire.Shauri yao
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Last nail on is when world leaders send their congratulations
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Fair and square says kimetrica.....Raila should never concede stolen election. Let the chip fall where they may
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Why would you care if NASA is redeemed. There is no reason for NASA to concede anyway but even if they were to, your likes will only throw matusi's at them anyway.
That is only option that can redeem NASa.Then regroup.it going to be extremely difficult 10yrs but UhuRuto conceded in 2002 and now they are top.This is not the of the world.youve lost fair n square.By huge margin Just concede and reclaim some respect.Youre not the first sore losers.Youre making a bad situation worse.
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NASA shouldn't concede and they won't concede.
However, they shouldn't even protest. There are other ways to protest.
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Precisely...Conceding will undo everything Raila has always stood for...you cannot endorse political thuggery
Orengo should be more forceful and let the media know that what we are dealing with is greater than Raila, this is a movement for change to transform
Kenya to a better equitable society, its about the dreams and aspirations of Kenyans. Kenyans who are yearning for better and brighter future for their childrens and their grand children
and endorsement of electoral theft send the wrong message to Kenyans that you can steal, you can kill and Kenyans will not hold you accountable.
On the killings am surprised that Kidero and Kisumu county Governor elect Nyongo has not come out to address the media and make appeal for medical assistance and counseling for affected families
NASA shouldn't concede and they won't concede.
However, they shouldn't even protest. There are other ways to protest.
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The Red Cross and other charities are on the ground offering assistance.
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Even with red cross on the ground people would love to hear from elected officials. Red cross will only pick you and deliver you to an empty hospital, no nurses no medicine.
The main point is to bring to the fore state sponsored genocide taking place in Kisumu.
The Red Cross and other charities are on the ground offering assistance.
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The Kenya Red Cross Society said it picked up 93 people injured by the violence. MSF Kenya, which has its own ambulances and involves figures not counted by the Red Cross, reported 54 people were treated at its clinics, raising the toll to at least 150 wounded.
MSF have medical supplies.
http://www.latimes.com/world/africa/la-fg-kenya-election-killing-20170812-story.html
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The Kenya Red Cross Society said it picked up 93 people injured by the violence. MSF Kenya, which has its own ambulances and involves figures not counted by the Red Cross, reported 54 people were treated at its clinics, raising the toll to at least 150 wounded.
MSF have medical supplies.
http://www.latimes.com/world/africa/la-fg-kenya-election-killing-20170812-story.html
sad that write evoked memories of Tiananmen square massacre
read on....
(https://media1.britannica.com/eb-media/66/91866-004-0B707093.jpg)
Each year around the anniversary of 4 June 1989, the Beijing massacre, words vanish from the Chinese internet. A comprehensive list of blocked words is published by China Digital Times, which keeps an extensive database. Digital censorship has pushed Chinese citizens to create an irreverent, ingenious and hilarious counter-language of puns, gifs, memes, nicknames and more, to fill in the spaces otherwise left blank. I turned to those missing words to record the events of 1989 and the aftermath.
1. The demonstrations, which daily brought up to a million people to Tiananmen Square, began when Beijing students tried to mourn the sudden death of Hu Yaobang, a reformist leader who had been removed from office.
2. The government accused the mourners of inciting rebellion, and the student movement was born. In the wake of 40 years of political turmoil that claimed the lives of at least 60 million people, the public square became not just ground zero for a democracy movement, but a space to remember the past, debate the present, and imagine the future.
3. The world was watching. When the government turned away from dialogue, 3,000 students began a hunger strike that lasted 10 days.
4. On 19 May, general secretary Zhao Ziyang visited the students in the middle of the night. He told them, “I am sorry”. The next day, the government imposed martial law and mobilised troops, and Zhao was placed under house arrest where he would remain until his death in 2005. Zhao’s children were denied permission to bury their father’s ashes until 2015.
5. On the night of 3 June and the early hours of 4 June, people took to the streets to stop the tanks from reaching the student demonstrators. Fighting took place on streets and intersections – Muxidi, Gongzhufen, Chang’an Avenue – and the People’s Liberation Army opened fire with lead bullets. The number of dead, including those crushed by tanks, remains unknown. The unprecedented and peaceful civil movement was transformed into the Beijing massacre, or what the government calls the Tiananmen Incident.
A candlelit vigil to mark the anniversary of Tiananmen Square at Victoria Park, Hong Kong.
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A candlelit vigil to mark the anniversary of Tiananmen Square at Victoria Park, Hong Kong. Photograph: Tyrone Siu/Reuters
6. On the morning of 4 June 1989, a line of tanks was stopped, momentarily, by a person whose identity has never been discovered, and whose fate remains unknown.
7. On each anniversary, 27, 26, 25, 24, 23, and so on, numbers of every permutation (6/4, 64, squareof8, 31May, 89 etc and even baijiu, a liquor that sounds like 89) are suppressed. The name of the former premier, Li Peng, is temporarily banned, alongside the names of victims, student leaders, workers and activists, and certain foreign media sites. Even “sensitive word” and “internet block” are disallowed. So many pages are inaccessible that 4 June is jokingly referred to by Chinese citizens as Internet Maintenance Day.
8. Every June, parents and/or spouses of the victims are placed under house arrest or removed from their homes, and forbidden from public mourning. For 27 years, Ding Zilin has been trying to grieve for her son, Jiang Jielian, who was shot by the army. She founded a group, the Tiananmen Mothers, searching for “those who shared the same fate”, and this group of elderly bereaved are known as the mothers of the motherland. Their demand was simple: the right to mourn peacefully and in public.
9. To remember, citizens post candles to commemorate the dead, they call for a silent vigil to pay respect to that day and honour the memory of that year. They ask citizens to wear black and take a walk. They call the massacre in Beijing a wound in history and remind one another to never forget these weeks that were the end of spring and the beginning of summer, a night when the empire besieged the city, and the end of an era.
10. The poet Bei Dao wrote: “Life’s only a promise / Don’t grieve for it / We knocked down midnight’s door / alone like a match polished into light.” Today, 27 years later, even the words yesterday and tomorrow are so politically charged, they disappear.
Do Not Say We Have Nothing by Madeleine Thien was shortlisted for the Baileys prize.
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At least Tienanmen happened in public.
This "new and improved" form of dictatorial stifling involves hit men (like the little girl who was shot on her balcony), body bags and media clamps.
Kenya's a scary place to be at today.
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The Kenya Red Cross Society said it picked up 93 people injured by the violence. MSF Kenya, which has its own ambulances and involves figures not counted by the Red Cross, reported 54 people were treated at its clinics, raising the toll to at least 150 wounded.
MSF have medical supplies.
http://www.latimes.com/world/africa/la-fg-kenya-election-killing-20170812-story.html
sad that write evoked memories of Tiananmen square massacre
read on....
(https://media1.britannica.com/eb-media/66/91866-004-0B707093.jpg)
Each year around the anniversary of 4 June 1989, the Beijing massacre, words vanish from the Chinese internet. A comprehensive list of blocked words is published by China Digital Times, which keeps an extensive database. Digital censorship has pushed Chinese citizens to create an irreverent, ingenious and hilarious counter-language of puns, gifs, memes, nicknames and more, to fill in the spaces otherwise left blank. I turned to those missing words to record the events of 1989 and the aftermath.
1. The demonstrations, which daily brought up to a million people to Tiananmen Square, began when Beijing students tried to mourn the sudden death of Hu Yaobang, a reformist leader who had been removed from office.
2. The government accused the mourners of inciting rebellion, and the student movement was born. In the wake of 40 years of political turmoil that claimed the lives of at least 60 million people, the public square became not just ground zero for a democracy movement, but a space to remember the past, debate the present, and imagine the future.
3. The world was watching. When the government turned away from dialogue, 3,000 students began a hunger strike that lasted 10 days.
4. On 19 May, general secretary Zhao Ziyang visited the students in the middle of the night. He told them, “I am sorry”. The next day, the government imposed martial law and mobilised troops, and Zhao was placed under house arrest where he would remain until his death in 2005. Zhao’s children were denied permission to bury their father’s ashes until 2015.
5. On the night of 3 June and the early hours of 4 June, people took to the streets to stop the tanks from reaching the student demonstrators. Fighting took place on streets and intersections – Muxidi, Gongzhufen, Chang’an Avenue – and the People’s Liberation Army opened fire with lead bullets. The number of dead, including those crushed by tanks, remains unknown. The unprecedented and peaceful civil movement was transformed into the Beijing massacre, or what the government calls the Tiananmen Incident.
A candlelit vigil to mark the anniversary of Tiananmen Square at Victoria Park, Hong Kong.
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A candlelit vigil to mark the anniversary of Tiananmen Square at Victoria Park, Hong Kong. Photograph: Tyrone Siu/Reuters
6. On the morning of 4 June 1989, a line of tanks was stopped, momentarily, by a person whose identity has never been discovered, and whose fate remains unknown.
7. On each anniversary, 27, 26, 25, 24, 23, and so on, numbers of every permutation (6/4, 64, squareof8, 31May, 89 etc and even baijiu, a liquor that sounds like 89) are suppressed. The name of the former premier, Li Peng, is temporarily banned, alongside the names of victims, student leaders, workers and activists, and certain foreign media sites. Even “sensitive word” and “internet block” are disallowed. So many pages are inaccessible that 4 June is jokingly referred to by Chinese citizens as Internet Maintenance Day.
8. Every June, parents and/or spouses of the victims are placed under house arrest or removed from their homes, and forbidden from public mourning. For 27 years, Ding Zilin has been trying to grieve for her son, Jiang Jielian, who was shot by the army. She founded a group, the Tiananmen Mothers, searching for “those who shared the same fate”, and this group of elderly bereaved are known as the mothers of the motherland. Their demand was simple: the right to mourn peacefully and in public.
9. To remember, citizens post candles to commemorate the dead, they call for a silent vigil to pay respect to that day and honour the memory of that year. They ask citizens to wear black and take a walk. They call the massacre in Beijing a wound in history and remind one another to never forget these weeks that were the end of spring and the beginning of summer, a night when the empire besieged the city, and the end of an era.
10. The poet Bei Dao wrote: “Life’s only a promise / Don’t grieve for it / We knocked down midnight’s door / alone like a match polished into light.” Today, 27 years later, even the words yesterday and tomorrow are so politically charged, they disappear.
Do Not Say We Have Nothing by Madeleine Thien was shortlisted for the Baileys prize.
Hehehe - Kadame here's your "meritocracy" being referenced to analogize Zamunda.
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Lol...the Chinese system only cares for economic advancement. They don't give two crap about political rights. That's why I said it was authoritarian and that we cant borrow everything. But yeah, besides lifting nearly a billion people from poverty in a shockingly short period, theyve done a lot of bad s*** too.
But I'm talking like a desperate woman on the verge of despair, so you shouldnt take my wild wonderings seriously. :D After I was done flirting with the idea of borrowing some things from the Chinese, I began winking at the idea of a peaceful cessation. Where we all go our separate ways. Those who love uthamakism can keep it, while others who want something different can try their something different.
Again, these are the thoughts of a woman who has seen many of her world views, political, religious, even social, take relentless beatings for a while now. Her sense of how the world works, fundamentally, isn't certain any more. She's disillusioned by a lot of things. This has left her open to all sorts of whacky ideas that seem to work. :D
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Lol...the Chinese system only cares for economic advancement. They don't give two crap about political rights. That's why I said it was authoritarian and that we cant borrow everything. But yeah, besides lifting nearly a billion people from poverty in a shockingly short period, theyve done a lot of bad s*** too.
But I'm talking like a desperate woman on the verge of despair, so you shouldnt take my wild wonderings seriously. :D After I was done flirting with the idea of borrowing some things from the Chinese, I began winking at the idea of a peaceful cessation. Where we all go our separate ways. Those who love uthamakism can keep it, while others who want something different can try their something different.
Again, these are the thoughts of a woman who has seen many of her world views, political, religious, even social, take relentless beatings for a while now. Her sense of how the world works, fundamentally, isn't certain any more. She's disillusioned by a lot of things. This has left her open to all sorts of whacky ideas that seem to work. :D
Americans equally don't care for rights. That's why they have nve censured Saudi Arabia despite its pathetic human rights record.
It is all about self interest. If America's are served by a dictator, they look the other way faster han Kung Fu
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Americans equally don't care for rights. That's why they have nve censured Saudi Arabia despite its pathetic human rights record.
It is all about self interest. If America's are served by a dictator, they look the other way faster han Kung Fu
Sure. I meant their own rights. Americans'. Everyone else is dispensable. If push comes to shove, even Europeans can be dumped.