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Title: Uhuru Missing Debate Damage Control
Post by: Omollo on July 25, 2017, 03:20:09 PM
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Post by: Omollo on July 25, 2017, 03:23:15 PM
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Post by: Omollo on July 25, 2017, 03:58:15 PM
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Post by: Omollo on July 25, 2017, 04:02:06 PM
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Post by: Omollo on July 25, 2017, 04:06:42 PM
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Post by: Omollo on July 25, 2017, 04:16:32 PM
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Through its director Wachira Waruru, Debate Media said it stands to lose Sh100 million investment in cash.

Responding to a petition by Alliance for Real Change presidential candidate Mohamed Abduba Dida, Mr Waruru said preventing the debates from taking place would prejudice Kenyans.

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Debate Media, one of the organisers of the presidential debates for this year's General Election, has said it stands to lose Sh200 million in advertising should the court prevent the discussions from taking place.

Through its director Wachira Waruru, the company said it further stands to lose Sh100 million investment in cash.

Responding to a petition by Alliance for Real Change presidential candidate Mohamed Abduba Dida, Mr Waruru said granting interim orders to stop the debates would prejudice Kenyans.

Mr Dida has sued DML and the Media Council of Kenya, seeking to stop two presidential debates planned for July 10 and 24.

He wants the debates halted as they will feature two categories of candidates: those who have garnered at least five per cent popularity as per opinion polls and those who have not.

READ: Dida in court to stop presidential debates

READ: Presidential debates set for July

Mr Waruru, also the chairman of DML Steering Committee of Presidential Debates, said Mr Dida will not be prejudiced as no determination has been made as to which part of the debate he will participate in.

He said the petition does not disclose any case of the violations of Mr Dida’s rights as alleged. He said Mr Dida sought to obtain orders ex parte without making full disclosure of all facts.

“The petitioner failed to disclose to this court that the Presidential Debate Guidelines which he is challenging were released on June 9 and published (in newspapers and also broadcast),” Mr Waruru said.

He said DML formed the steering committee last year to determine and organise debates to be held between candidates for the office of President.

“One of the matters the steering committee was tasked with was developing the terms upon which such debates would be held,” Mr Waruru said.

SEVERAL FACTORS

He said several factors informed the decision to develop pre-established objective selection criteria, such as organisational challenges involved in having multiple candidates on the podium at the same time.

Mr Dida also wants a declaration that all presidential candidates are equal with regard to articulating their manifestos at and during such public debates.

The case will be mentioned on Wednesday.

Title: Re: Uhuru Missing Debate Damage Control
Post by: vooke on July 25, 2017, 04:46:29 PM

It uni challenged Nation to give evidence for this. And I haven't seen none yet. So I'd dismiss it as fake news
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Post by: patel on July 25, 2017, 05:03:23 PM
Effects of alcohol and drugs has taken a toll on Uhuru. nothing new under the sun
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Post by: Omollo on July 25, 2017, 05:41:16 PM
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Post by: vooke on July 25, 2017, 05:44:37 PM

Where exactly did Uhuru say that  debating was a waste of time?
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Post by: Omollo on July 25, 2017, 05:50:21 PM
The Nation writer is a one Grace Gitau (photo ). I believe the name betrays credibility to you, does it not?
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President Uhuru Kenyatta on Tuesday said he decided to skip the presidential debate organised by the media on Monday evening because it would have been a waste of time.

The President further said he could not debate with “someone who does not have an agenda for this country.”

He added that he had “nothing to debate” with his opponent, National Super Alliance (Nasa) flag-bearer Raila Odinga.

"Do you want me to spend my time responding to Raila or commissioning projects? I decided that he will debate alone because I have nothing to debate with him. I will not waste my time there,” he said.

LAND

The President was speaking during a campaign rally in Kiandu, Nyeri County.

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The President skipped the debate, leaving his rival to enjoy 90 minutes in the limelight.

The President on Tuesday also revived the Kajiado land debate, accusing Mr Odinga of changing the narrative because he was on live television.

"You heard what he said in Kajiado and he happened to denounce himself during the interview. There is a video of himself calling for the eviction of non-locals in Kajiado," said the President at Kiriti stadium in Mukurweini.

COALITION

He said Jubilee has initiated many projects in the four years it has been in government while Mr Odinga could not account for his years in the coalition government.

“I respect the opposition leader but you understand that if it were not for his stubbornness during the coalition government the country would be very far,” he said.

The President accused Mr Odinga of frustrating then President Mwai Kibaki.

“If Kibaki [had been] allowed to work, the country would have really grown but Mr Odinga frustrated the former president, opposing most projects. We wasted our five years,” he said.

He asked Kenyans to turn out in large numbers and vote for him in the August elections.

One of the "frustrations" was the attempt to illegally name Visram the Chief Justice and to pretend there was no NARA providing for shared Executive power.

It uni challenged Nation to give evidence for this. And I haven't seen none yet. So I'd dismiss it as fake news
Title: Re: Uhuru Missing Debate Damage Control
Post by: Omollo on July 25, 2017, 05:55:00 PM
Could you provide anything that shows this is the speech quoted by the Nation journalist? Uhuru is making stops at different markets in Central where he speaks. So how do you link this particular video to the Nation story?
Where exactly did Uhuru say that  debating was a waste of time?
Title: Re: Uhuru Missing Debate Damage Control
Post by: vooke on July 25, 2017, 06:20:54 PM
Could you provide anything that shows this is the speech quoted by the Nation journalist? Uhuru is making stops at different markets in Central where he speaks. So how do you link this particular video to the Nation story?
Where exactly did Uhuru say that  debating was a waste of time?

Title: Re: Uhuru Missing Debate Damage Control
Post by: Omollo on July 25, 2017, 06:29:25 PM
I really have to wonder. I demand a link with Nyeri and in record time (22 minutes) the Nation posts it?

So who is LYING? or better still which of the stories by The Ethnic Rag Media is true?

Well, you know what I think about The Ethnic Rag Media so for me it is quite fine that the confusion is now apparent and Robina - the Greatest Defender of that Rag - can see.

Good work vooke. Follow them so we can finally catch them like we caught Lumumba PLO
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Where exactly did Uhuru say that  debating was a waste of time?
Title: Re: Uhuru Missing Debate Damage Control
Post by: vooke on July 25, 2017, 06:52:39 PM
I really have to wonder. I demand a link with Nyeri and in record time (22 minutes) the Nation posts it?

So who is LYING? or better still which of the stories by The Ethnic Rag Media is true?

Well, you know what I think about The Ethnic Rag Media so for me it is quite fine that the confusion is now apparent and Robina - the Greatest Defender of that Rag - can see.

Good work vooke. Follow them so we can finally catch them like we caught Lumumba PLO
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Where exactly did Uhuru say that  debating was a waste of time?

The tweet has a time stamp. 1707H.

90 minutes before that tweet, Itumbi had demanded for evidence because Nation had tweeted a plain tweet without any link

Try harder
Itumbi at 1536

Nation original tweet at 1436
Title: Re: Uhuru Missing Debate Damage Control
Post by: Omollo on July 25, 2017, 07:10:10 PM
Like I wrote, this is now the question between The Ethnic Rag Media and The Ethnic Rag Journalists.

My focus, before you interrupted, was on the damage limitation. I have been looking atvthe various excuses, explanations and justifications and I ask myself why they find it necessary to offer them. He stayed away to protect the mystery and aura of the Presidency - away from Raila. That much anybody who knows campaigns would agree.

Teresa May kept out; George H.W. Bush made an impulsive decision to participate against Campaign Manager James Baker's advise. He later regretted as he was bested by Bill Clinton and damaged by Ross Perot. I personally think he could have won had he stayed away and avoided Perot's fire and quips such as "If you have another idea I am all ears" and people looked at the big ears and Bush came out injured.

He need not apologize. It shows and proves he is hurt.


Title: Re: Uhuru Missing Debate Damage Control
Post by: vooke on July 25, 2017, 11:36:08 PM
Like I wrote, this is now the question between The Ethnic Rag Media and The Ethnic Rag Journalists.

My focus, before you interrupted, was on the damage limitation. I have been looking atvthe various excuses, explanations and justifications and I ask myself why they find it necessary to offer them. He stayed away to protect the mystery and aura of the Presidency - away from Raila. That much anybody who knows campaigns would agree.

Teresa May kept out; George H.W. Bush made an impulsive decision to participate against Campaign Manager James Baker's advise. He later regretted as he was bested by Bill Clinton and damaged by Ross Perot. I personally think he could have won had he stayed away and avoided Perot's fire and quips such as "If you have another idea I am all ears" and people looked at the big ears and Bush came out injured.

He need not apologize. It shows and proves he is hurt.



I nearly though his response was damage control until I realized that no publicity is bad. Why should he let it pass. Babu will be crucified by the very words he said.

Here's something some have noted for instance;
Title: Re: Uhuru Missing Debate Damage Control
Post by: Kichwa on July 25, 2017, 11:46:52 PM
Vooke-the people who are disturbed by that statement are die-hard ouru supporters and will not vote for Raila anyway.  NASA supporters believe that Raila should NOT accept stolen elections.  What will cause violence is not Raila losing, but injustice.  In 2007, violence began when Kibaki was sworn in at night.  Very many people will vote for Raila and there is no way they will accept a stolen elections.  This matter is actually not in Raila's hands.  If IEBC can convince people that the votes are free and fair then there will be no violence. This is why it is very important for IEBC to take charge and NOT let Jubilee and arrogant Partisans like Matiangi become its spokesperson. 


Like I wrote, this is now the question between The Ethnic Rag Media and The Ethnic Rag Journalists.

My focus, before you interrupted, was on the damage limitation. I have been looking atvthe various excuses, explanations and justifications and I ask myself why they find it necessary to offer them. He stayed away to protect the mystery and aura of the Presidency - away from Raila. That much anybody who knows campaigns would agree.

Teresa May kept out; George H.W. Bush made an impulsive decision to participate against Campaign Manager James Baker's advise. He later regretted as he was bested by Bill Clinton and damaged by Ross Perot. I personally think he could have won had he stayed away and avoided Perot's fire and quips such as "If you have another idea I am all ears" and people looked at the big ears and Bush came out injured.

He need not apologize. It shows and proves he is hurt.



I nearly though his response was damage control until I realized that no publicity is bad. Why should he let it pass. Babu will be crucified by the very words he said.

Here's something some have noted for instance;
Title: Re: Uhuru Missing Debate Damage Control
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on July 25, 2017, 11:56:23 PM
Vooke-the people who are disturbed by that statement are die-hard ouru supporters and will not vote for Raila anyway.  NASA supporters believe that Raila should NOT accept stolen elections.  What will cause violence is not Raila losing, but injustice.  In 2007, violence began when Kibaki was sworn in at night.  Very many people will vote for Raila and there is no way they will accept a stolen elections.  This matter is actually not in Raila's hands.  If IEBC can convince people that the votes are free and fair then there will be no violence. This is why it is very important for IEBC to take charge and NOT let Jubilee and arrogant Partisans like Matiangi become its spokesperson. 


I nearly though his response was damage control until I realized that no publicity is bad. Why should he let it pass. Babu will be crucified by the very words he said.

Here's something some have noted for instance;

In a general sense, people should worry more about stolen elections, than about the idea that bad things can happen when elections are stolen.  In the jubilant's case, it's a bit like worrying about the "nutcase" suggesting bad things can happen when you jump from the 100th floor but not worrying about the idea of jumping from the 100th floor.