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Title: NASA Triumphantly Enters Kiambu
Post by: Omollo on July 04, 2017, 02:20:09 PM
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Title: Re: NASA Triumphantly Enters Kiambu
Post by: Kichwa on July 04, 2017, 03:16:09 PM
The momentum is definitely with NASA.  The next two weeks is going to be crucial to both parties because this is when the undecided usually make their move and they usually break for the side with momentum.  It appears that Jubilee is not drinking the RV Pundit Kool-Aid otherwise they will not be campaigning so desperately.  Ouru was just the other day telling folks in Ukambani NOT to vote on tribal lines and to consider his "economic miracle". A week earlier, when he was in Central, he was telling folks to vote on tribal lines.  To their credit, Ouruto are realizing that they cannot rely on Pundits/Ngunyi model of tyranny of  tribal numbers as memorialized in the MOAS.
Title: Re: NASA Triumphantly Enters Kiambu
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Title: Re: NASA Triumphantly Enters Kiambu
Post by: Omollo on July 04, 2017, 03:56:07 PM
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Title: Re: NASA Triumphantly Enters Kiambu
Post by: Omollo on July 04, 2017, 03:56:49 PM
Title: Re: NASA Triumphantly Enters Kiambu
Post by: Omollo on July 04, 2017, 03:57:34 PM
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Title: Re: NASA Triumphantly Enters Kiambu
Post by: patel on July 04, 2017, 04:59:16 PM
Now that's how organic campaign rally crowd looks like...no party uniform.  Uhuru will carry this region but the level of poverty and hopelessness in this region is clearly visible.  The whole country is hurting, kikuyu and kalenjin have not been  spared 
Title: Re: NASA Triumphantly Enters Kiambu
Post by: Omollo on July 04, 2017, 06:32:22 PM
Title: Re: NASA Triumphantly Enters Kiambu
Post by: RV Pundit on July 04, 2017, 06:33:39 PM
Hope Kisumu will reciprocate when Jubilee goes there.
Title: Re: NASA Triumphantly Enters Kiambu
Post by: Kichwa on July 04, 2017, 06:40:20 PM

It all depends on the candidate and not the people.  Ouru usually gets good reception in Nyanza and I do not see why he should not get it this time around.  The problem is WSR, he is too polarizing and his brand of arrogance rubs folks the wrong way.

Hope Kisumu will reciprocate when Jubilee goes there.
Title: Re: NASA Triumphantly Enters Kiambu
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on July 04, 2017, 07:02:30 PM
Who is the orange clad woman next to him?

Anyway if a politician can't set up a living room on the roof of his car, I have no respect them.

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Title: Re: NASA Triumphantly Enters Kiambu
Post by: patel on July 04, 2017, 07:49:42 PM
All along I thought this people were eating meat while we swallowed saliva...it's seem it's only ngina and her breed are eating meat.....what does Centro have to lose by voting NASA?
Title: Re: NASA Triumphantly Enters Kiambu
Post by: RV Pundit on July 04, 2017, 10:57:42 PM
Raila we have heard is more polarazing.
It all depends on the candidate and not the people.  Ouru usually gets good reception in Nyanza and I do not see why he should not get it this time around.  The problem is WSR, he is too polarizing and his brand of arrogance rubs folks the wrong way.
Title: Re: NASA Triumphantly Enters Kiambu
Post by: Kichwa on July 04, 2017, 11:41:00 PM

I should have said  that Ruto is not a very likeable person if you do not agree with him ideologically.  Raila maybe polarizing ideologically  but as a person like him. There is a feeling that he means no harm.  You cannot say that about WSR.

Raila we have heard is more polarazing.
It all depends on the candidate and not the people.  Ouru usually gets good reception in Nyanza and I do not see why he should not get it this time around.  The problem is WSR, he is too polarizing and his brand of arrogance rubs folks the wrong way.
Title: Re: NASA Triumphantly Enters Kiambu
Post by: vooke on July 05, 2017, 11:23:01 AM
Baba's reception in Kiambu was warmer than Bomet last Saturday . I mean the crowd was unruly and not even Rutto could control them. I know crowds don't mean votes but surely a hostile crowd certainly means no votes. Is there really a Rift in the Rift, or it's like the highly disappointing Meru/Mt.Kenya region in 2013?

I have never forgotten Adams Oloo on NTV repeating the claim
Title: Re: NASA Triumphantly Enters Kiambu
Post by: RV Pundit on July 05, 2017, 11:36:49 AM
Baba will get about 10-15% of Kiambu - from the long strip that neigbour nairobi - which has lots of kambas, luhyas and Luo - I mean from Kikuyu -uthiru- Kabete- ruaka all the way to Thika town. Bomet he'll be lucky to get 10% - Isaac himself will get less than 15%.
Baba's reception in Kiambu was warmer than Bomet last Saturday . I mean the crowd was unruly and not even Rutto could control them. I know crowds don't mean votes but surely a hostile crowd certainly means no votes. Is there really a Rift in the Rift, or it's like the highly disappointing Meru/Mt.Kenya region in 2013?

I have never forgotten Adams Oloo on NTV repeating the claim
Title: Re: NASA Triumphantly Enters Kiambu
Post by: Kichwa on July 05, 2017, 03:58:01 PM
The crowd is calm when they have decided either way and unruly when there is a genuine debate going on amongst them.  I think Kiambu is decidedly Ouru but what you call unruly in Bomet is actually good for NASA because it means, the crowd is not locked down by either side.  NASA should therefore go back to South Rift because the last two weeks in a campaign are crucial, that is when undecided move and that is also when huge waves happen.  NASA is just happy that this region is in play.

Baba's reception in Kiambu was warmer than Bomet last Saturday . I mean the crowd was unruly and not even Rutto could control them. I know crowds don't mean votes but surely a hostile crowd certainly means no votes. Is there really a Rift in the Rift, or it's like the highly disappointing Meru/Mt.Kenya region in 2013?

I have never forgotten Adams Oloo on NTV repeating the claim
Title: Re: NASA Triumphantly Enters Kiambu
Post by: vooke on July 06, 2017, 07:07:58 AM
The crowd is calm when they have decided either way and unruly when there is a genuine debate going on amongst them.  I think Kiambu is decidedly Ouru but what you call unruly in Bomet is actually good for NASA because it means, the crowd is not locked down by either side.  NASA should therefore go back to South Rift because the last two weeks in a campaign are crucial, that is when undecided move and that is also when huge waves happen.  NASA is just happy that this region is in play.

Baba's reception in Kiambu was warmer than Bomet last Saturday . I mean the crowd was unruly and not even Rutto could control them. I know crowds don't mean votes but surely a hostile crowd certainly means no votes. Is there really a Rift in the Rift, or it's like the highly disappointing Meru/Mt.Kenya region in 2013?

I have never forgotten Adams Oloo on NTV repeating the claim

Good theory except the same rowdy or disrespectful crowd is always calm and excited when Uhuruto tours the place.

You have to admit that Rutto is a failed experiment...and he damn knows it too hence vying for Governor. My knowledge of Bomet politics is restricted to what I watch in tv, and I was largely convinced there was some real Rift, but Saturday changed my mind. Maybe here will be a Rift in the next three weeks
Title: Re: NASA Triumphantly Enters Kiambu
Post by: RV Pundit on July 06, 2017, 09:01:08 AM
Isaac Rutto thinks he knows politics; so he ferry people and pay them to his rallies; Bomet will vote Uhuru 90%; Isaac himself will get 15%.Raila is anathema in Kalenjin land -even than 10% I am being generous - maybe Gusii/Luos in tea estate will vote for him and few Isaac diehards. Isaac would have gotten 30% but everytime he says NASA he loses lot more votes.
Good theory except the same rowdy or disrespectful crowd is always calm and excited when Uhuruto tours the place.

You have to admit that Rutto is a failed experiment...and he damn knows it too hence vying for Governor. My knowledge of Bomet politics is restricted to what I watch in tv, and I was largely convinced there was some real Rift, but Saturday changed my mind. Maybe here will be a Rift in the next three weeks
Title: Re: NASA Triumphantly Enters Kiambu
Post by: Kichwa on July 06, 2017, 12:41:49 PM
The reason why the crowd is rowdy when Ouru visits Kiambu and when Raila visits Siaya is because of local down-ticket candidates elbowing each other for recognition by the popular candidate.  Most independents also feel that they need recognition because they are also supporting the presidential candidate.

The crowd is calm when they have decided either way and unruly when there is a genuine debate going on amongst them.  I think Kiambu is decidedly Ouru but what you call unruly in Bomet is actually good for NASA because it means, the crowd is not locked down by either side.  NASA should therefore go back to South Rift because the last two weeks in a campaign are crucial, that is when undecided move and that is also when huge waves happen.  NASA is just happy that this region is in play.

Baba's reception in Kiambu was warmer than Bomet last Saturday . I mean the crowd was unruly and not even Rutto could control them. I know crowds don't mean votes but surely a hostile crowd certainly means no votes. Is there really a Rift in the Rift, or it's like the highly disappointing Meru/Mt.Kenya region in 2013?

I have never forgotten Adams Oloo on NTV repeating the claim

Good theory except the same rowdy or disrespectful crowd is always calm and excited when Uhuruto tours the place.

You have to admit that Rutto is a failed experiment...and he damn knows it too hence vying for Governor. My knowledge of Bomet politics is restricted to what I watch in tv, and I was largely convinced there was some real Rift, but Saturday changed my mind. Maybe here will be a Rift in the next three weeks
Title: Re: NASA Triumphantly Enters Kiambu
Post by: Kichwa on July 06, 2017, 12:46:22 PM
Isaak Ruto knows politics because he has already made a mark this political season.  There is really no need threatening people with your MOAS all the time.  We are aware of it and there are other predictions out there.  The autonomy of a rally is very complex and cannot be reduced to ferrying people.  People have to be transported to a rally one way or the other and you can call it what you want but its still a rally.

Isaac Rutto thinks he knows politics; so he ferry people and pay them to his rallies; Bomet will vote Uhuru 90%; Isaac himself will get 15%.Raila is anathema in Kalenjin land -even than 10% I am being generous - maybe Gusii/Luos in tea estate will vote for him and few Isaac diehards. Isaac would have gotten 30% but everytime he says NASA he loses lot more votes.
Good theory except the same rowdy or disrespectful crowd is always calm and excited when Uhuruto tours the place.

You have to admit that Rutto is a failed experiment...and he damn knows it too hence vying for Governor. My knowledge of Bomet politics is restricted to what I watch in tv, and I was largely convinced there was some real Rift, but Saturday changed my mind. Maybe here will be a Rift in the next three weeks
Title: Re: NASA Triumphantly Enters Kiambu
Post by: Omollo on July 06, 2017, 01:46:17 PM
Isaak Ruto knows politics because he has already made a mark this political season.  There is really no need threatening people with your MOAS all the time.  We are aware of it and there are other predictions out there.  The autonomy of a rally is very complex and cannot be reduced to ferrying people.  People have to be transported to a rally one way or the other and you can call it what you want but its still a rally.

This is the localization of politics. Pundit has a personal grudge and his anger is increasing as he realizes that the People of Bomet will not vote for Laboso.

Laboso was instrumental in bribing MPs to vote to re-introduce manual voting. She became the darling of the NIS and William Ruto. She is a key participant in all the plans to rig the 2017 elections. Indeed the plan was to rig her in early so she can be in Nairobi to help rig nationally. That plan is in shambles because they as usual underestimated NASA intelligence.

I can tell Pundit for free that Laboso is among the people NASA is spending lots to keep busy in Bomet.

Instead of feeding us with lies, tell us what your team is constructing at Bomas of kenya.