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Title: NASA can't cope - 200 rallies in 30 days by UhuRuto
Post by: RV Pundit on July 03, 2017, 11:04:16 AM
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001245801/president-uhuru-dp-ruto-200-marathon-rallies-in-30-days
Title: Re: NASA can't cope - 200 rallies in 30 days by UhuRuto
Post by: GeeMail on July 03, 2017, 11:17:57 AM
Isn't that an indictment of Jubilee that a seemingly analogue opposition leader out of power can cause a sitting digital president to run around abusing state resources to campaign on taxpayer money like a headless chicken?
Title: Re: NASA can't cope - 200 rallies in 30 days by UhuRuto
Post by: Nefertiti on July 03, 2017, 11:51:24 AM
No Daily, it is an indictment of NASA incompetence. Those Pentagon bums need to spread out their message. Joho solo does better than the lot. Kalonzo by now should have mobilized the Kamba in Nairobi... is he fretted Sonko will humiliate him? Till 2 days ago he did not even deploy Muthama venom.
Title: Re: NASA can't cope - 200 rallies in 30 days by UhuRuto
Post by: Kichwa on July 03, 2017, 12:44:42 PM
Rallies is just one tool in the tool box of winning an election. I do not know each party's strategy but I know You have to be very strategic with these rallies. Even here the debate between quality and quantity applies.  After August 8th the winner will always be said to have had the best strategy no matter what we think now.  The loser will be accused for either campaigning too little or too much.


No Daily, it is an indictment of NASA incompetence. Those Pentagon bums need to spread out their message. Joho solo does better than the lot. Kalonzo by now should have mobilized the Kamba in Nairobi... is he fretted Sonko will humiliate him? Till 2 days ago he did not even deploy Muthama venom.
Title: Re: NASA can't cope - 200 rallies in 30 days by UhuRuto
Post by: RV Pundit on July 03, 2017, 12:49:21 PM
This is official campaign period and you want to cover as much ground as possible. Uhuru is carpet bombing the country with rallies as well as adverts. The indictment will be on 8th Sept. Of course 50% is no joke but Uhuru is looking at improving his 2013 figures.
Isn't that an indictment of Jubilee that a seemingly analogue opposition leader out of power can cause a sitting digital president to run around abusing state resources to campaign on taxpayer money like a headless chicken?
Title: Re: NASA can't cope - 200 rallies in 30 days by UhuRuto
Post by: RV Pundit on July 03, 2017, 12:49:52 PM
Unless they know something - I have found their campaign so far dour!  No energy for an opposition that want to take power from an incumbent.
No Daily, it is an indictment of NASA incompetence. Those Pentagon bums need to spread out their message. Joho solo does better than the lot. Kalonzo by now should have mobilized the Kamba in Nairobi... is he fretted Sonko will humiliate him? Till 2 days ago he did not even deploy Muthama venom.
Title: Re: NASA can't cope - 200 rallies in 30 days by UhuRuto
Post by: Nefertiti on July 03, 2017, 01:20:39 PM
Actually the winner will be accused of rigging and Maraga will fall from grace.

Rallies is just one tool in the tool box of winning an election. I do not know each party's strategy but I know You have to be very strategic with these rallies. Even here the debate between quality and quantity applies.  After August 8th the winner will always be said to have had the best strategy no matter what we think now.  The loser will be accused for either campaigning too little or too much.
Title: Re: NASA can't cope - 200 rallies in 30 days by UhuRuto
Post by: Omollo on July 03, 2017, 01:25:49 PM
This is laughable. It is as Achebe writes in No Longer at Ease: "When a new saying gets to the land of empty men, they lose their heads over it".

1. First of all Raila has no problem getting 25% of the vote in 24 counties. We  know that the NIS managed to rig elections in about 9 counties where Uhuru secured less than 25% so he could win 32. That is not going to be easy this time. Therefore the panic
2. The 200 so called rallies amount to a drop in the ocean if the same criteria were to be used to count NASA rallies. For example when Raila went to Tharaka- Nithi, residents at different markets demanded to be addressed and often blocked the road. He arrived late at the main rally. Of course these mini rallies are not counted for the simple reason that the itinerary / information given to the police does not mention them.
3. If JP wants us to believe they have held 200 rallies, they should share the notifications they send to the police and the approval therefrom.

4. This is just cheap propaganda intended to build the momentum to stealing the election. I see another LIE: "NASA did not campaign". This is needed after "the Tyranny of Numbers" collapsed as NASA areas registered more voters. The next one to collapse is the turnout as we slowly destroy the ghost voters.
Title: Re: NASA can't cope - 200 rallies in 30 days by UhuRuto
Post by: Omollo on July 03, 2017, 01:27:32 PM
You watch TV and rely on MSM to see NASA. Too bad, Jubilee has blacked them out so they go to the people directly. If you left Kampala more often I could arrange for your transport to our rallies.

Unless they know something - I have found their campaign so far dour!  No energy for an opposition that want to take power from an incumbent.
No Daily, it is an indictment of NASA incompetence. Those Pentagon bums need to spread out their message. Joho solo does better than the lot. Kalonzo by now should have mobilized the Kamba in Nairobi... is he fretted Sonko will humiliate him? Till 2 days ago he did not even deploy Muthama venom.
Title: Re: NASA can't cope - 200 rallies in 30 days by UhuRuto
Post by: Omollo on July 03, 2017, 01:29:41 PM
Actually the winner will be accused of rigging and Maraga will fall from grace.

Robina

The greatest fool is he who thinks he can repeat the same joke twice and elicit the same amount of delight in his audience! We know the Maraga plan. It has been on the table since Kalpana Rawal case. Njoki Ndungu is the coordinator.
Title: Re: NASA can't cope - 200 rallies in 30 days by UhuRuto
Post by: RV Pundit on July 03, 2017, 01:35:59 PM
Wacha bangi mingi. 25% in 24 counties ni kazi rahisi. GEMA+Kalenjin alone can meet that criteria. Even if all kenyans vote against Jubilee except for Kalenjin + GEMA - Uhuru. UhuRuto cannot and will not lose when they are backed by GEMA+Kalenjin. This election is pretty booring.

1)Nyeri   Gikuyu 94%,Meru & others 5%
2)Kirinyaga   Gikuyu  95%,others(Akamba,Embu) 5%
3)Murang’a   Gikuyu 94%,Akamba & others 5%
4)Nyandarua   Gikuyu 96%,Luhya & others 4%
5)Kericho   Kalenjin 88%,Luo, Gikuyu & others (13.5%)
6)ElgeyoMarakwet   Kalenjin 93%,Luhya & others 5%
7)TharakaNithi   Meru 55%,Tharaka 40%,Mbeere & others 5%
8)Baringo   Kalenjin 88%,Ilchamus/Njemps 8%,Gikuyu & others 5%
9)Meru   Meru 94%,Gikuyu,Akamba 2%
10)WestPokot   Kalenjin 95%(Pokot),Luhya & Turkana & others 5%
11)Kiambu   Gikuyu 81%, Akamba 6%,Luhya & Others 13%
12)Laikipia   Gikuyu 63%,Maasai 20%,Kalenjin 6% & others 3%
13)Bomet   Kalenjin 96%,Gusii, Luo & others 4%
14)Embu   Embu 50%,Mbeere 35%,Gikuyu 7%,Akamba 5%,others 3%
15)Nandi   Kalenjin 77%,Luhya 20%, Luo & others (2%)
16)Nakuru   Gikuyu 52%,Kalenjin 37%;others 18%
17)UasinGishu   Kalenjin 58%,Luhya 20%,Gikuyu & Others 20%
18)Narok   Maasai 52%,Kalenjin 35%,Gikuyu(10%),Others
19)Lamu   Swahili 30%,Gikuyu 25%,Mijikenda
20)Kajiado   Maasai 44%,Gikuyu35%,Akamba,others
21)Nairobi   Kikiyu 29%,Akamba 17%,Luo 16%,Luhya 15%,
22)TransNzoia   Luhya 52%,Kalenjin 30%,Gikuyu & others 10%
23)Bungoma   Luhya 83%, Kalenjin 12%,Teso & others 5%

This is laughable. It is as Achebe writes in No Longer at Ease: "When a new saying gets to the land of empty men, they lose their heads over it".

1. First of all Raila has no problem getting 25% of the vote in 24 counties. We  know that the NIS managed to rig elections in about 9 counties where Uhuru secured less than 25% so he could win 32. That is not going to be easy this time. Therefore the panic
2. The 200 so called rallies amount to a drop in the ocean if the same criteria were to be used to count NASA rallies. For example when Raila went to Tharaka- Nithi, residents at different markets demanded to be addressed and often blocked the road. He arrived late at the main rally. Of course these mini rallies are not counted for the simple reason that the itinerary / information given to the police does not mention them.
3. If JP wants us to believe they have held 200 rallies, they should share the notifications they send to the police and the approval therefrom.

4. This is just cheap propaganda intended to build the momentum to stealing the election. I see another LIE: "NASA did not campaign". This is needed after "the Tyranny of Numbers" collapsed as NASA areas registered more voters. The next one to collapse is the turnout as we slowly destroy the ghost voters.
Title: Re: NASA can't cope - 200 rallies in 30 days by UhuRuto
Post by: Omollo on July 03, 2017, 01:36:09 PM
NASA and earlier ODM has been campaigning the last 4.5 years. Someone wants to compete that in a few days using state resources? NASA has people who belong to it. They are part of the movement whether in Ford, ODM or Wiper.

That is why wise people do not disband political parties just like that...

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On June 21 during his visit to Murang'a, the President made more than 20 stops, similar to Nyeri County, key strongholds Jubilee hopes will give it a head-start against the Opposition juggernaut led by its candidate Raila Odinga.

In Meru and Tharaka Nithi counties, Uhuru made over 30 stops to address key concerns raised by residents. This was a day after he toured Nyeri County.
Title: Re: NASA can't cope - 200 rallies in 30 days by UhuRuto
Post by: Omollo on July 03, 2017, 01:48:12 PM
Have you been trying the Kampala bangi?

Let me repeat incase you get it in your head at some point: Uhuru will NOT get any votes in Bungoma. Uhuru runs the risk of getting less than 9% in Trans Nzoia.

The percentages for these as of now show less than 25%:
1.  Kakamega County
2.      Homa Bay County
3.      Kilifi County
4.      Bungoma County
5.      Busia County
6.      Nyamira County
7.      Kisii County
8.      Kisumu County
9.      Kwale County
10.      Kitui County
11.      Migori County
12.      Taita Taveta County
13.      Vihiga County
14.      Makueni County
15.      Machakos County
16.      Garissa County
17.      Mombasa County
18.      Trans Nzoia County
19.      Turkana County
20.      Tana River County
21.      Kajiado County
22.      Lamu County
23.      Siaya County
24.      Samburu County
25.      Marsabit County

Do your maths and tell me where he will get the votes.
Title: Re: NASA can't cope - 200 rallies in 30 days by UhuRuto
Post by: RV Pundit on July 03, 2017, 01:53:46 PM
I see - we are into the silly tirade - yeah Uhuru will get zero votes come next election - happy now?

Now back to reality -  Uhuru will score more than 25% in 37 counties.

Nyeri   Gikuyu 94%,Meru & others 5%   456949   97
Kirinyaga   Gikuyu  95%,others(Akamba,Embu) 5%   349836   96
Murang’a   Gikuyu 94%,Akamba & others 5%   587126   96
Nyandarua   Gikuyu 96%,Luhya & others 4%   335634   96
Kericho   Kalenjin 88%,Luo, Gikuyu & others (13.5%)   375668   95
ElgeyoMarakwet   Kalenjin 93%,Luhya & others 5%   180664   95
TharakaNithi   Meru 55%,Tharaka 40%,Mbeere & others 5%   213154   93
Baringo   Kalenjin 88%,Ilchamus/Njemps 8%,Gikuyu & others 5%    232558   90
Meru   Meru 94%,Gikuyu,Akamba 2%   702480   90
Mandera   Somali 98%,Gabra,others 2%   175642   90
WestPokot   Kalenjin 95%(Pokot),Luhya & Turkana & others 5%   180232   89
Kiambu   Gikuyu 81%, Akamba 6%,Luhya & Others 13%   1180920   88
Laikipia   Gikuyu 63%,Maasai 20%,Kalenjin 6% & others 3%   246487   86
Bomet   Kalenjin 96%,Gusii, Luo & others 4%   322012   85
Embu   Embu 50%,Mbeere 35%,Gikuyu 7%,Akamba 5%,others 3%   309468   83
Nandi   Kalenjin 77%,Luhya 20%, Luo & others (2%)   346007   81
Nakuru   Gikuyu 52%,Kalenjin 37%;others 18%   949618   79
UasinGishu   Kalenjin 58%,Luhya 20%,Gikuyu & Others 20%   450055   75
Isiolo   Borana 37%,Somali,Samburu, Turkana ,Meruu & Gikuyu10%   75338   65
Marsabit   Gabra 28%,Borana,Rendile,Burji &others 5%   141708   65
TanaRiver   Mijikenda 28%,Orma (25%) & warder 20%,Somali(15%)   118327   65
Narok   Maasai 52%,Kalenjin 35%,Gikuyu(10%),Others   341730   60
Lamu   Swahili 30%,Gikuyu 25%,Mijikenda   75338   60
Garissa   Somali 80% (ogaden),Others & Akamba (20%)   163350   58
Kajiado   Maasai 44%,Gikuyu35%,Akamba,others   411193   54
Samburu   Samburu 79%,Turkana, Gikuyu & others (21%)   82787   48
Nairobi   Kikiyu 29%,Akamba 17%,Luo 16%,Luhya 15%,   2250853   47
TransNzoia   Luhya 52%,Kalenjin 30%,Gikuyu & others 10%   339622   45
Wajir   Somali 98%,Gabra &others(2%)   162902   40
Turkana   Turkana 94%,others & luhya 6%   191435   35
Kisii   Gusii 97%, Luo & others 3%   546580   33
Nyamira   Gusii 97%,Luo & others 3%   278583   33
Bungoma   Luhya 83%, Kalenjin 12%,Teso & others 5%   559850   33
Kwale   Mijikenda 83%,Akamba,Luhya & others 17%   281041   33
TaitaTaveta   Taita 63%,Akamba,Taveta   155716   33
Kilifi   Mijikenda 87%,Akamba,Swahili & others 5%   508068   30
Mombasa   Mijikenda 30%,Luo 16%,Luhya 15%,Akamba 17%,others 20%   580223   24

And could easily get to another 3 here - Migori/Kitui/Kakamage or machakos

Migori   Luo 60%,Kuria 37%,Luhya & others 3%   388633   16
Kitui   Akamba 97%,Tharaka & others 3%   474512   15
Kakamega   Luhya 93% ,Luo,Gikuyu &others 7%   743736   13
Machakos   Akamba 91%,Gikuyu 5% & others 4%   620254   12
Makueni   Akamba 95%,others 5%   423310   8
Busia   Luhya 57%,Iteso 30%, Luo & others 13%   351048   5
Vihiga   Luhya 96% ,Luo, Kalenjin & others 4%   272409   2
HomaBay   Luo 87%,Suba 8%,Gusii & others 5%   476875   1
Kisumu   Luo 89%,Luhya 6%,others 5%   539210   1
Siaya   Luo 95%,Luhya & others 5%   457953   1


Have you been trying the Kampala bangi?

Let me repeat incase you get it in your head at some point: Uhuru will NOT get any votes in Bungoma. Uhuru runs the risk of getting less than 9% in Trans Nzoia.

The percentages for these as of now show less than 25%:
1.  Kakamega County
2.      Homa Bay County
3.      Kilifi County
4.      Bungoma County
5.      Busia County
6.      Nyamira County
7.      Kisii County
8.      Kisumu County
9.      Kwale County
10.      Kitui County
11.      Migori County
12.      Taita Taveta County
13.      Vihiga County
14.      Makueni County
15.      Machakos County
16.      Garissa County
17.      Mombasa County
18.      Trans Nzoia County
19.      Turkana County
20.      Tana River County
21.      Kajiado County
22.      Lamu County
23.      Siaya County
24.      Samburu County
25.      Marsabit County

Do your maths and tell me where he will get the votes.
Title: Re: NASA can't cope - 200 rallies in 30 days by UhuRuto
Post by: Omollo on July 03, 2017, 03:03:41 PM
Pundit

Kisii County
Turkana County
Nyamira County
Tana River County
Trans Nzoia County
Samburu County
Lamu County
Narok
Wajir
Marsabit County
Garissa County
Kajiado County

Easy to lock out Uhuru. Period
Title: Re: NASA can't cope - 200 rallies in 30 days by UhuRuto
Post by: RV Pundit on July 03, 2017, 03:42:05 PM
Yeah easy to lock out Uhuru in Narok or Kajiado or Lamu or TransNzoia where Kikuyu or Kalenjin already make more than 25% - wacha bangi mingi.
Pundit

Kisii County
Turkana County
Nyamira County
Tana River County
Trans Nzoia County
Samburu County
Lamu County
Narok
Wajir
Marsabit County
Garissa County
Kajiado County

Easy to lock out Uhuru. Period
Title: Re: NASA can't cope - 200 rallies in 30 days by UhuRuto
Post by: Nefertiti on July 03, 2017, 04:23:43 PM
Robina

The greatest fool is he who thinks he can repeat the same joke twice and elicit the same amount of delight in his audience! We know the Maraga plan. It has been on the table since Kalpana Rawal case. Njoki Ndungu is the coordinator.

I too have spotted status quo traits in Maraga. However am unaware of the NIS conspiracy. The question is what have you done about it? -before August - seeing the appointment boat long sailed.
Title: Re: NASA can't cope - 200 rallies in 30 days by UhuRuto
Post by: Nefertiti on July 03, 2017, 04:38:00 PM
You're delusional Omollo. This election is a pure two horse race so only 50%+1 matters. NASA has unga and the fresh 5M voters so don't discount the surprise factor.
Title: Re: NASA can't cope - 200 rallies in 30 days by UhuRuto
Post by: patel on July 03, 2017, 04:53:15 PM
I thought the thieving duo said if Raila is the nominee they would not even campaign...now like someone mentioned they are running around like headless chicken. ...like omollo said this kind of stories are psyop information to prepare the ground for rigging.
Title: Re: NASA can't cope - 200 rallies in 30 days by UhuRuto
Post by: Omollo on July 03, 2017, 04:55:14 PM
Pundit

What makes you think because one is Kalenjin or Kikuyu he would necessarily vote for Njaa?

I am daily meeting Kikuyus (leave alone Kalenjins who openly say WSR should continue with his personal business and that they are not for sale) who are more determined to see Uhuru gone than even I.

There is a huge change in Trans Nzoia - where you have not been for years and where I own property and have people staying. Unlike you I admit where we have problems and where the going is rough. For you, its simply looking at a paper saying Kalenjins and you immediately decided = Jubilee.

You lie about the Jubilee development record like you were born to tell lies! I saw the same with Ruto last night and said to my friends who were angry at the lies: "we need that man to make more appearances because we could never manage to destroy Jubilee without him..". Such a liar who manages to take away all the credibility the media has been giving Jubilee. Suddenly all those commercials are placed in perspective. I got a call from Wajir where he claimed to have started constructing a road and I was told people watching over there laughed until they coughed.

It is not just Kipindupindu contributing to making his  the laughing stock of Jubilee but his lies have simply turned him in to a public figure of ridicule.

Back to the original, NASA does not need to lock Uhuru out of 27 counties. The minimum is 23. Do your maths.
Yeah easy to lock out Uhuru in Narok or Kajiado or Lamu or TransNzoia where Kikuyu or Kalenjin already make more than 25% - wacha bangi mingi.
Pundit

Kisii County
Turkana County
Nyamira County
Tana River County
Trans Nzoia County
Samburu County
Lamu County
Narok
Wajir
Marsabit County
Garissa County
Kajiado County

Easy to lock out Uhuru. Period
Title: Re: NASA can't cope - 200 rallies in 30 days by UhuRuto
Post by: Omollo on July 03, 2017, 05:00:09 PM
You're delusional Omollo. This election is a pure two horse race so only 50%+1 matters. NASA has unga and the fresh 5M voters so don't discount the surprise factor.

Robina

Nini inakuuma kama iliyo tiwa pilipili?

Nowhere have I even remotely indicated that there is a three or four horse race. There is Raila - the front runner and there is Uhuru trying to use every rigging scheme to stay in power. NASA is pursuing an election campaign, Uhuru is plotting and planning how to rig. That is the difference.

As for listing the counties, I suspect you are not aware of the rule that one has to win 25% in 24 counties. We intend to lock The Tribalist out of 24 counties and seal his fate.
Title: Re: NASA can't cope - 200 rallies in 30 days by UhuRuto
Post by: Kichwa on July 03, 2017, 05:58:19 PM

Pundits entire political Jenga is premised on the fact that Kenyans only vote tribe.  It is a false premise because its not true.  The only reason why people even tolerate this nonsense is because of 2013 elections since 2007 was obviously stolen.   Kenyans  understood the struggle for independence and what freedom meant regardless of their tribal affiliations.  After independence, Kenyans understood the ideological differences between Jaramogi and Kenyattaa and they took sides accordingly.  Kenyans understood the issues articulated by the 2nd liberation movement and supported the movement across tribal lines.  It is also true that the tribal card has been played, but the notion that Kenyans have always voted along tribal lines and will continue to do so based on some baked evidence is a lie that can only be swallowed by the truly gullible. There are enough Kenyans who can be persuaded by issues to swing this elections either way and its true for both Jubilee and NASA.

Pundit

What makes you think because one is Kalenjin or Kikuyu he would necessarily vote for Njaa?

I am daily meeting Kikuyus (leave alone Kalenjins who openly say WSR should continue with his personal business and that they are not for sale) who are more determined to see Uhuru gone than even I.

There is a huge change in Trans Nzoia - where you have not been for years and where I own property and have people staying. Unlike you I admit where we have problems and where the going is rough. For you, its simply looking at a paper saying Kalenjins and you immediately decided = Jubilee.

You lie about the Jubilee development record like you were born to tell lies! I saw the same with Ruto last night and said to my friends who were angry at the lies: "we need that man to make more appearances because we could never manage to destroy Jubilee without him..". Such a liar who manages to take away all the credibility the media has been giving Jubilee. Suddenly all those commercials are placed in perspective. I got a call from Wajir where he claimed to have started constructing a road and I was told people watching over there laughed until they coughed.

It is not just Kipindupindu contributing to making his  the laughing stock of Jubilee but his lies have simply turned him in to a public figure of ridicule.

Back to the original, NASA does not need to lock Uhuru out of 27 counties. The minimum is 23. Do your maths.
Yeah easy to lock out Uhuru in Narok or Kajiado or Lamu or TransNzoia where Kikuyu or Kalenjin already make more than 25% - wacha bangi mingi.
Pundit

Kisii County
Turkana County
Nyamira County
Tana River County
Trans Nzoia County
Samburu County
Lamu County
Narok
Wajir
Marsabit County
Garissa County
Kajiado County

Easy to lock out Uhuru. Period
Title: Re: NASA can't cope - 200 rallies in 30 days by UhuRuto
Post by: Omollo on July 03, 2017, 06:26:12 PM
Title: Re: NASA can't cope - 200 rallies in 30 days by UhuRuto
Post by: Omollo on July 03, 2017, 06:26:41 PM