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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RVtitem on December 05, 2016, 10:32:46 PM

Title: How cheap is wind power?
Post by: RVtitem on December 05, 2016, 10:32:46 PM
Kenya’s quest for cheaper power is beckoning with Sh70 billion Lake Turkana Wind Power (LTWP) project expected in the second quarter of 2016.

When operating at full capacity, Lake Turkana Wind Power will add 310 MW of renewable generation capacity to Kenya's grid. This output from the wind farm will be enough to power more than 1 million Kenyan households.

The Marsabit-based wind firm has a 20-year deal to sell electricity at Sh8.6 per kilowatt/hour (kWh) to Kenya Power.

The farm sits on 40,000 acres of land in an area that receives steady winds throughout the year.

The power will be evacuated and transmitted to the national grid through a double circuit 400kV, 438km transmission line that is currently being constructed by Kenya Electricity Transmission Company (Ketraco).

Kenya, which relies heavily on renewables such as geothermal and hydro-power, aims to expand installed capacity to about 6,700 MW by 2017, up from 1,700 MW in 2013.

https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/brandingvoice/kcb/article/47/cheaper-power-beckons-as-sh70b-wind-energy-project-nears-completion
Title: Re: How cheap is wind power?
Post by: RV Pundit on December 06, 2016, 11:46:00 AM
Not cheap. I have seen 12(kshs)/0.12 cent usd per kwh.hydro at 3shs - is 4 times cheaper. Coal can even go lower at 1-2 shs.
Title: Re: How cheap is wind power?
Post by: RVtitem on December 06, 2016, 02:15:37 PM
Not cheap. I have seen 12(kshs)/0.12 cent usd per kwh.hydro at 3shs - is 4 times cheaper. Coal can even go lower at 1-2 shs.

But proposed Amu coal is going to cost ksh.7.52....on the higher side.

www.businessdailyafrica.com/Chinese-firm-signs--1bn-contract-for-Lamu-coal-plant-/539552-2744624-7j033c/index.html
Title: Re: How cheap is wind power?
Post by: Globalcitizen12 on December 06, 2016, 07:34:57 PM
where is the coal coming from SA? I know there is a coal plant in Kipevu.. I wonder what happened to Mui basin coal
Title: Re: How cheap is wind power?
Post by: MOON Ki on December 06, 2016, 08:38:30 PM
where is the coal coming from SA? I know there is a coal plant in Kipevu.. I wonder what happened to Mui basin coal

From about 2010/2011, there have been all sorts of stories on how coal mining would soon start there---by July this year, or September that year, etc.   The reality is that this is Kenya, and apparently money can be made from coal without digging even an inch into the ground.    Numerous "amusing" stories have appeared in the media in the last few years.   Here's one from 2012:

http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Fresh+queries+over+Chinese+coal+firm+awarded+Sh8bn+job/-/1056/1462788/-/15umsf2z/-/index.html

As to what would actually be done with Kenya's coal, if the briefcase types ever got someone to actually mine anything ... who knows.   Perhaps this might give some idea:

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The coal will be shipped in from, among other countries, South Africa, Mozambique, Indonesia and Australia, with its pricing being jointly determined by the Kenyan government and the source country.

The report has, however, poured cold water on earlier plans to use Kenya’s coal deposits, saying that would require a 350km railway line connecting Kitui, where the coal deposits are found, to Lamu.
http://www.nation.co.ke/news/1-400-Chinese-workers-to-build-Sh200bn-Lamu-coal-plant/1056-3310810-146f1mb/index.html
Title: Re: How cheap is wind power?
Post by: Globalcitizen12 on December 06, 2016, 09:08:26 PM
i remember the shenigans with Titatinium in Kwale.. Lost 2 decades trying to steal it.. before AU for beer company came to the rescue.. Nyeuthi ni Nyeuthi corrupt all the way to the gizzard .. Now TT prices have collapsed and we missed the boom
Title: Re: How cheap is wind power?
Post by: Kadudu on December 07, 2016, 01:05:31 PM
The cost of coal power is on paper far cheaper than wind power but when you calculate the envirometal consequences then wind power is much more cheaper. Coal power is on the decline in industrial countries but maybe now Donald Trump will try bring it back, but on the long run it has no chance.
Title: Re: How cheap is wind power?
Post by: RVtitem on December 07, 2016, 01:38:53 PM
The cost of coal power is on paper far cheaper than wind power but when you calculate the envirometal consequences then wind power is much more cheaper. Coal power is on the decline in industrial countries but maybe now Donald Trump will try bring it back, but on the long run it has no chance.

I think coal is a necessary evil. Its a stepping stone before green energy can be afforded.
Title: Re: How cheap is wind power?
Post by: Kadudu on December 07, 2016, 06:55:15 PM
That reminds me that we were told in 2013 SGR has to be first diesel till some time later. Now we are told an upgrade to electric will cost 50B Ksh alone from Mombasa to Nairobi. Cheap things always turnout to be more expensive.

I think coal is a necessary evil. Its a stepping stone before green energy can be afforded.
Title: Re: How cheap is wind power?
Post by: Globalcitizen12 on December 07, 2016, 08:36:12 PM
who is funding these knuckle head energy projects in kenya.. Is Japan still parking her pension funds in Energy sector milking us with hydro and geothermal nonsense. in 1995 I met a young Chinese engineer who had a Japanese citizenship that had made millions at age of 22 in Naivasha as an engineer.. my friend dad who was a senior engineer in olkaria was making a third of young brats like this girl made. he was training them .. but part of conditions for loans from China and Japan they had to hire these "experts" and pay them very high salaries. Is Eddy Njoroge still catwalking his way to Zillionaire status? kenya is fucked up really messed up..

The girl was very sympathetic of Kenyans.. She could understand why I didnt have a job like her.. She was leaving On work study program to US and so we met in old embassy building as I was on my way out of the freaking hell hole ..