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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Nefertiti on July 12, 2025, 01:35:27 PM

Title: Now RiggyG attacks Raila
Post by: Nefertiti on July 12, 2025, 01:35:27 PM
Raila wishy-washy katikati disposition will cost him. Seems RiggyG will mop every drop from Raila's tittering base.


You are partners! Why speak to Ruto through media?- Gachagua to Raila
"President William Ruto is his partner. Why is he addressing him through the press? They are brothers. They should sit, talk, and agree."

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His Democracy for the Citizens Party had sharply criticised the Former Prime Minister's condemnation of alleged shoot-to-kill orders given to police, claiming the ODM leader has shown hypocrisy and complicity in state violence.

In a statement issued Friday evening, DCP said Raila’s remarks were “factually untenable, disingenuous, and contradictory.”


https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2025-07-12-talk-to-your-brother-ruto-not-media-gachagua-to-raila
Title: Re: Now RiggyG attacks Raila
Post by: Nefertiti on July 12, 2025, 01:45:10 PM
If Raila runs for Presidency 2027, Ruto will be number four - Gachagua
Gachagua noted that Raila is inconsequential in the 2027 polls, as he brings nothing to the table, claiming that he has been abandoned by supporters.

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In a statement, Gachagua expressed confidence that if Raila were to throw his hat in the ring, President Ruto would finish fourth in the election.

He insisted that even if Raila decided to support Ruto rather than run, it would not change the outcome.

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2025-07-12-if-raila-vies-ruto-will-be-fourth-gachagua
Title: Re: Now RiggyG attacks Raila
Post by: Nefertiti on July 12, 2025, 05:18:11 PM
RiggyG now is badmouthing Ruto in diaspora. Karua tag along as 'chief guest'. The joke is on her because Mt Kenya are in DCP - noone will join her useless PLP.


Title: Re: Now RiggyG attacks Raila
Post by: Nefertiti on July 14, 2025, 06:59:23 AM
Ndindi and Kang'ata begin to attack Ruto, seems only Ichung'wa is left with some heft in murima

Ndindi Nyoro: Government is to blame for the violence and deaths during the Saba Saba protests
https://nation.africa/kenya/videos/ndindi-nyoro-government-is-to-blame-for-the-violence-and-deaths-during-the-saba-saba-protests-5115218
Title: Re: Now RiggyG attacks Raila
Post by: RV Pundit on July 14, 2025, 08:35:37 AM
Preaching to the converted.
Title: Re: Now RiggyG attacks Raila
Post by: Nefertiti on July 14, 2025, 05:05:26 PM
RiggyG fingers Ichung'wa and Kiunjuri as Gema traitors

Title: Re: Now RiggyG attacks Raila
Post by: Nefertiti on July 14, 2025, 05:07:47 PM
Preaching to the converted.

The news is Raila: Riggy seem kin to taint him with Ruto crimes. Do you know something we don't?

These speeches are targed at Kenya not few diaspora.
Title: Re: Now RiggyG attacks Raila
Post by: patel on July 14, 2025, 05:32:32 PM
Riggy G reception in Seattle was something. This was huge, bigly. If Riggy G is able to harness diaspora this will provide sufficient economic muscle to sustain a 2yr presidential campaign. The man has become a good orator, quick on his feet, sharp wit and disarming humor. The stars are aligned in his favor.
Title: Re: Now RiggyG attacks Raila
Post by: patel on July 14, 2025, 05:36:11 PM
Raila is done. Stick a folk my fren. The man has been on the bright side now he is on the dark side. He want money, glory and fame but no responsibilities. I wonder how he plans to negotiate for Handshake in the next government without being on the ballot.
Preaching to the converted.

The news is Raila: Riggy seem kin to taint him with Ruto crimes. Do you know something we don't?

These speeches are targed at Kenya not few diaspora.
Title: Re: Now RiggyG attacks Raila
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on July 14, 2025, 07:11:07 PM
Gachagua is done. Since he can't Run, whoever he will 'Tosha" will come 2nd, or 3rd!
Title: Re: Now RiggyG attacks Raila
Post by: Nefertiti on July 14, 2025, 08:41:27 PM
Gachagua is done. Since he can't Run, whoever he will 'Tosha" will come 2nd, or 3rd!

Hubris will kill you. Ruto has literally lined up his forces - Soprano, Ichung'wa, Duale, Rectangular, Osoro, etc - including friendly ODMers to deal with the small man from Wamunyoro.

RiggyG moto ya kuotea mbali. [sic]
Title: Re: Now RiggyG attacks Raila
Post by: Nefertiti on July 14, 2025, 08:47:06 PM
Raila is done. Stick a folk my fren. The man has been on the bright side now he is on the dark side. He want money, glory and fame but no responsibilities. I wonder how he plans to negotiate for Handshake in the next government without being on the ballot.
Preaching to the converted.

The news is Raila: Riggy seem kin to taint him with Ruto crimes. Do you know something we don't?

These speeches are targed at Kenya not few diaspora.

Raila is almost in diapers so "future" is entirely speculative. RiggyG is unseating him as the opposition figurehead without breaking a sweat.

Riggy is dismissing Raila as "huyo mzee" the way Moi dismissed 80yo Jaramogi.

Title: Re: Now RiggyG attacks Raila
Post by: Nefertiti on July 14, 2025, 08:50:25 PM
Short version


Title: Re: Now RiggyG attacks Raila
Post by: patel on July 14, 2025, 10:25:51 PM
2027 is slowly shaping up to be a Bantus Vs Nilotes Derby.  We might dodge a bullet.
Title: Re: Now RiggyG attacks Raila
Post by: Fairandbalanced on July 14, 2025, 10:27:58 PM
Raila and Ruto made the biggest miscalculations of their political lifes, Kasongo by impeaching his sponsor and main defender and Raila by joining a tainted government. They have both survived before by failing foward and dealing with minions, Gachagua is none of those and I think they all underestimated the guy. He is monied, can raise funds, has connections and mt Kenya behind him, that’s not a force to joke around with, the guy will determine our next president. I am actually surprised by how rich the guy is, I heard someone say that Wamunyoro estate is as big as statehouse, I am not a big supporter but give the guy his due.
Title: Re: Now RiggyG attacks Raila
Post by: Nefertiti on July 14, 2025, 10:50:23 PM
2027 is slowly shaping up to be a Bantus Vs Nilotes Derby.  We might dodge a bullet.

Meaning what?
Title: Re: Now RiggyG attacks Raila
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on July 15, 2025, 08:29:01 PM
If Raila runs for Presidency 2027, Ruto will be number four - Gachagua
Gachagua noted that Raila is inconsequential in the 2027 polls, as he brings nothing to the table, claiming that he has been abandoned by supporters.

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In a statement, Gachagua expressed confidence that if Raila were to throw his hat in the ring, President Ruto would finish fourth in the election.

He insisted that even if Raila decided to support Ruto rather than run, it would not change the outcome.

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2025-07-12-if-raila-vies-ruto-will-be-fourth-gachagua (https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2025-07-12-if-raila-vies-ruto-will-be-fourth-gachagua)

I saw him on YouTube yesterday in Seattle.  I haven't seen anything like the naked appeals to ethnicity that this guy made maybe since 2008 at the height of post election violence.  I don't know if he thinks this will draw other Kenyans to him.  Is he just clueless? 
Title: Re: Now RiggyG attacks Raila
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on July 15, 2025, 09:30:56 PM
If Raila runs for Presidency 2027, Ruto will be number four - Gachagua
Gachagua noted that Raila is inconsequential in the 2027 polls, as he brings nothing to the table, claiming that he has been abandoned by supporters.

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In Summary

In a statement, Gachagua expressed confidence that if Raila were to throw his hat in the ring, President Ruto would finish fourth in the election.

He insisted that even if Raila decided to support Ruto rather than run, it would not change the outcome.

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2025-07-12-if-raila-vies-ruto-will-be-fourth-gachagua (https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2025-07-12-if-raila-vies-ruto-will-be-fourth-gachagua)

I saw him on YouTube yesterday in Seattle.  I haven't seen anything like the naked appeals to ethnicity that this guy made maybe since 2008 at the height of post election violence.  I don't know if he thinks this will draw other Kenyans to him.  Is he just clueless?
One of the reason he was impeached, besides stealing from his Late brother's wealth, was mental illness. There were clear signs that he wasn't together upstairs, and Kenya wouldn't risk having someone like him as second in command. He was suggesting being given a go-ahead to eliminate Raila, whom he dubbed Kenya's constant problem. That was enough for people around the presidency to warn President of his unhinged deputy.  He thinks in his little head 100% of GEMA would troop to the polls and cast a ballot for him.
Title: Re: Now RiggyG attacks Raila
Post by: Fairandbalanced on July 15, 2025, 11:47:45 PM
Don't you get tired of lying and getting talking points from illiterates llike Sudi and Farouk? Why don't you bring your discourse a little higher than the usual village garbage. We hear rumors against Ruto all the time like HIV and wife beating, we all dismiss this as useless gossip and move on. I hope you can do the same and concentrate on how Ruto wins reelection. The fact is, as much as we hate it, other than GenZ, Kenyan politics are very tribal. If you are a politician in Kenya right now, you start by securing your base, Kisiis are behind Matiangi, we are in the negotiation stage of who bears the Ticket. Please stop listening to those illiterate in state house, they have nothing to offer you or Ruto, I heard Farouk saying that they tried to dress Gachagua, in his puny brain, with the Kenyan economy in the shitter, looking good in a suit is of out most importance, that's how in illiterate brain thinks.
Title: Re: Now RiggyG attacks Raila
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on July 16, 2025, 12:02:38 AM
Don't you get tired of lying and getting talking points from illiterates llike Sudi and Farouk? Why don't you bring your discourse a little higher than the usual village garbage. We hear rumors against Ruto all the time like HIV and wife beating, we all dismiss this as useless gossip and move on. I hope you can do the same and concentrate on how Ruto wins reelection. The fact is, as much as we hate it, other than GenZ, Kenyan politics are very tribal. If you are a politician in Kenya right now, you start by securing your base, Kisiis are behind Matiangi, we are in the negotiation stage of who bears the Ticket. Please stop listening to those illiterate in state house, they have nothing to offer you or Ruto, I heard Farouk saying that they tried to dress Gachagua, in his puny brain, with the Kenyan economy in the shitter, looking good in a suit is of out most importance, that's how in illiterate brain thinks.

While that is true, I still think the way the guy came out was polarizing.  It almost seems like Mt. Kenya version of MAGA(we are already exhausted by that shit here).  Karua also tries to appeal to Kikuyu voters, but she does it without alienating the other Kenyans.  Gachagua comes off with Trumpian level of polarization; he could make people who would not touch Ruto with ten foot pole line up behind him.  Whether true or not, in Kenya, Kikuyu are seen as having enjoyed privileged access to the system for the better part of Kenya's existence, a bit like white people here; so their ethnic appeals can turn off people who would otherwise agree with the overall message.
Title: Re: Now RiggyG attacks Raila
Post by: Nefertiti on July 16, 2025, 01:21:12 PM
Nyoro escalates attacks on GoK


Nyoro slams rising fuel costs, unaccounted debt
Title: Re: Now RiggyG attacks Raila
Post by: Nefertiti on July 16, 2025, 01:34:03 PM
I saw him on YouTube yesterday in Seattle.  I haven't seen anything like the naked appeals to ethnicity that this guy made maybe since 2008 at the height of post election violence.  I don't know if he thinks this will draw other Kenyans to him.  Is he just clueless?

RiggyG is rounding up Gema to trade them as kingmaker. Thus the naked ethnic tongue-twisters all the way in Seattle.
The gang up with Kalonzo and Matiang'i -- "makuzo" - was a swift, adroit tackle on Ruto's 41 vs 1 ploy.

Man talks a good game but we will see the whiff and whaff in Mbeere by-election.
Title: Re: Now RiggyG attacks Raila
Post by: Nefertiti on July 16, 2025, 01:36:30 PM
One of the reason he was impeached, besides stealing from his Late brother's wealth, was mental illness. There were clear signs that he wasn't together upstairs, and Kenya wouldn't risk having someone like him as second in command. He was suggesting being given a go-ahead to eliminate Raila, whom he dubbed Kenya's constant problem. That was enough for people around the presidency to warn President of his unhinged deputy.  He thinks in his little head 100% of GEMA would troop to the polls and cast a ballot for him.

Kura za Mt Kenya mtazionea kwa Viusasa. It's about 95% gone, worse than Moi in 90s.
Title: Re: Now RiggyG attacks Raila
Post by: RV Pundit on July 16, 2025, 01:45:41 PM
It whose lose?
They are going out of power and will not get power soon.
Ruto is one who has the Prize
And can deliver the goods
And appoint a succesor in 2032.
All Ruto need to do is dump Kindiki
And have huge play to hand over Deputy to any of BIG 3 of Luo, Luhya and Kambas
Kura za Mt Kenya mtazionea kwa Viusasa. It's about 95% gone, worse than Moi in 90s.
Title: Re: Now RiggyG attacks Raila
Post by: Nefertiti on July 16, 2025, 02:03:17 PM
Winners and losers will be determined in 2027.

Riggy moves so far so good, no major blunder:-
Round up Gema and fend off Kiunjuris, Ichung'was as traitors.
Defend GenZ against cops and Ruto hit squad.
They did a ragtag wazee thing with Kalonzo and expanded Gema with Akamba.
Prop up fat baby Matiang'i to excite Gusii.
Not sure how Malala and Natembeya are doing but Luhya seem in play too.

Ruto is suddenly calling pressers to brief Kenya on GoK achievements  :)

It whose lose?
They are going out of power and will not get power soon.
Ruto is one who has the Prize
And can deliver the goods
And appoint a succesor in 2032.
All Ruto need to do is dump Kindiki
And have huge play to hand over Deputy to any of BIG 3 of Luo, Luhya and Kambas
Title: Re: Now RiggyG attacks Raila
Post by: Nefertiti on July 16, 2025, 02:05:46 PM
Ruto is offering mere DPORK - RiggyG is offering PORK.
Title: Re: Now RiggyG attacks Raila
Post by: RV Pundit on July 16, 2025, 04:53:55 PM
Ruto just need a Kalonzo 10% and he nicks it.
The only player Ruto fears is Raila.
Hii ingine ya RiggyG, Matiangi and Kalonzo are overrated C players.
If Uhuru and RiggyG is Ptooh.

Ruto is offering mere DPORK - RiggyG is offering PORK.

Title: Re: Now RiggyG attacks Raila
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on July 16, 2025, 05:00:05 PM
Ruto is so good, Kikuyus wish he was one of their own. From a Kikuyu in my household! Kiwaru from Amazing success and undeniable transformtion taking place in Kenya.