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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Nefertiti on November 21, 2024, 08:34:24 AM

Title: Adani charged with $250m bribery in US
Post by: Nefertiti on November 21, 2024, 08:34:24 AM
Billionaire Gautam Adani charged in US over alleged $250m bribery plot

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Indian chair of Adani Group, worth about $85bn, accused of agreeing to pay bribes to obtain solar energy contracts

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/nov/20/gautam-adani-charged-alleged-bribes
Title: Re: Adani charged with $250m bribery in US
Post by: RV Pundit on November 21, 2024, 09:37:10 AM
Look like Ruto should drop this Adani - too much risk
Title: Re: Adani charged with $250m bribery in US
Post by: Kadudu on November 21, 2024, 01:58:00 PM
The two are tied to the hip. Kenya already signed agreements with Adani and he already sent checks to our guys. Canceling the contracts will be very expensive for Kenya.

Look like Ruto should drop this Adani - too much risk
Title: Re: Adani charged with $250m bribery in US
Post by: Nowayhaha on November 21, 2024, 03:41:05 PM
Mursikman already pocketed 3 Billi for the boss …


Look like Ruto should drop this Adani - too much risk
Title: Re: Adani charged with $250m bribery in US
Post by: Nefertiti on November 21, 2024, 04:20:48 PM
Worst is how this poisons other much-needed PPP or FDI deals. I think due to Mwafrika corrupt ways you are better off partnering with mzungu or the Chinese. Indians don't inspire confidence integrity-wise.

This undermines the Indian brand globally.
Title: Re: Adani charged with $250m bribery in US
Post by: Kadudu on November 21, 2024, 04:21:18 PM
Now when Kenya pays damages our local boys will also be pocketing their share of the profits. We are damnded both ways.

Mursikman already pocketed 3 Billi for the boss …
Title: Re: Adani charged with $250m bribery in US
Post by: Kadudu on November 21, 2024, 04:24:09 PM
Ruto just announced cancellation of the deals. :D :D :D
Now Adani can sue the kenya gvt. The deals had already been signed.
Title: Re: Adani charged with $250m bribery in US
Post by: Georgesoros on November 21, 2024, 04:33:03 PM
Ruto just announced cancellation of the deals. :D :D :D
Now Adani can sue the kenya gvt. The deals had already been signed.

An indian will always be an Indian - Corrupt.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/kenya-cancels-proposed-deals-adani-130347141.html
Title: Re: Adani charged with $250m bribery in US
Post by: Georgesoros on November 21, 2024, 04:34:44 PM
Worst is how this poisons other much-needed PPP or FDI deals. I think due to Mwafrika corrupt ways you are better off partnering with mzungu or the Chinese. Indians don't inspire confidence integrity-wise.

This undermines the Indian brand globally.

I Absolutely agree with you on this.
Why not partner with another airport like Schipol and have them provide the technicalities instead of selling the damn thing.
Title: Re: Adani charged with $250m bribery in US
Post by: Nefertiti on November 21, 2024, 04:47:51 PM
Worst is how this poisons other much-needed PPP or FDI deals. I think due to Mwafrika corrupt ways you are better off partnering with mzungu or the Chinese. Indians don't inspire confidence integrity-wise.

This undermines the Indian brand globally.

I Absolutely agree with you on this.
Why not partner with another airport like Schipol and have them provide the technicalities instead of selling the damn thing.

Not just that kind of partnering. Such big infra tenders come down to 2 things

1. Tech capacity
2. Capital -

Mhindi lacks both. You won't catch Adani-scale Chinese or western companies facing such bare integrity questions.

India is Russia-level integrity without the technical competence. I always laugh at their audacity to size up to China.
Title: Re: Adani charged with $250m bribery in US
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on November 21, 2024, 05:00:43 PM
Kenya is ripe with misinformation. Adani had not signed anything in Kenya, and if he did, there was a clause in the agreement to hold both sides accountable. Kenya, like Africa, is a risky place with few billionaires, so outsiders must be sought because big money is needed in this PPP. Rwanda has managed to bring 90% outside money with little opposition, but it is hard to do it in Kenya because of bad politics and trust that has been eroded over time.
Title: Re: Adani charged with $250m bribery in US
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on November 21, 2024, 06:06:14 PM
Look like Ruto should drop this Adani - too much risk
Pundit wewe ni JINGA absolute FOOL,yaani when USA your master coughs ndio unakubali???. Ruto is very in a precarious situation, Unacheza na global occurrences Nkalenjins after destruction of Moi University and Kenya wont have anywhere to run
Kindiki for 2027? :D
Title: Re: Adani charged with $250m bribery in US
Post by: gout on November 21, 2024, 06:55:18 PM
Your echo chamber is comforting but not all that there is. Ati 'Bad politics' because hasoras who will pay the triple costs of these deals are calling out the few billionaire thugs.

Rwanda remains fragile despite decades of abductions and killings and cannot be a pathway to success.


 

Kenya is ripe with misinformation. Adani had not signed anything in Kenya, and if he did, there was a clause in the agreement to hold both sides accountable. Kenya, like Africa, is a risky place with few billionaires, so outsiders must be sought because big money is needed in this PPP. Rwanda has managed to bring 90% outside money with little opposition, but it is hard to do it in Kenya because of bad politics and trust that has been eroded over time.
Title: Re: Adani charged with $250m bribery in US
Post by: Nowayhaha on November 21, 2024, 07:01:54 PM
Kindiki should just take over immediately . Ruto will be fought off politically the Adani have political connections in Kenya, the energy deals smells like they were Railas . Airport evident were Mursikman doing Ruttos deal .
The about turn will have consequences . Kenya is not US where that can pass . Kufinywa hapa na pale kiasi …….


Look like Ruto should drop this Adani - too much risk
Pundit wewe ni JINGA absolute FOOL,yaani when USA your master coughs ndio unakubali???. Ruto is very in a precarious situation, Unacheza na global occurrences Nkalenjins after destruction of Moi University and Kenya wont have anywhere to run
Kindiki for 2027? :D
Title: Re: Adani charged with $250m bribery in US
Post by: Nowayhaha on November 21, 2024, 07:17:59 PM

You cant compare Rwanda deal with Adani . Further more Kenya had gotten a better deal from the same investors who went to Rwanda only for Uhuru and Ruto to refuse the deal back in 2014.
We said here Rutos was trying to trying to solve his economic mess using politics and it wont work .
Rutos government just looks like Moi government of 90s .He wont manage to achieve anything at this rate , bad economy,  bad politics , bad foreign policy bad eveything.

Kenya is ripe with misinformation. Adani had not signed anything in Kenya, and if he did, there was a clause in the agreement to hold both sides accountable. Kenya, like Africa, is a risky place with few billionaires, so outsiders must be sought because big money is needed in this PPP. Rwanda has managed to bring 90% outside money with little opposition, but it is hard to do it in Kenya because of bad politics and trust that has been eroded over time.
Title: Re: Adani charged with $250m bribery in US
Post by: Nowayhaha on November 21, 2024, 07:29:18 PM


European airports are some of the worst airports in the world , can compare with Asia leave alone middle east .
Prior to the war Russian 3 biggest airports used to outperform majority of European airports…

Worst is how this poisons other much-needed PPP or FDI deals. I think due to Mwafrika corrupt ways you are better off partnering with mzungu or the Chinese. Indians don't inspire confidence integrity-wise.

This undermines the Indian brand globally.

I Absolutely agree with you on this.
Why not partner with another airport like Schipol and have them provide the technicalities instead of selling the damn thing.

Not just that kind of partnering. Such big infra tenders come down to 2 things

1. Tech capacity
2. Capital -

Mhindi lacks both. You won't catch Adani-scale Chinese or western companies facing such bare integrity questions.

India is Russia-level integrity without the technical competence. I always laugh at their audacity to size up to China.
Title: Re: Adani charged with $250m bribery in US
Post by: gout on November 21, 2024, 08:18:33 PM
Eaten cake. You cannot be taking photos with Biden at White House and be running abduction killer squads like Kagame and dealing Adani. 


You cant compare Rwanda deal with Adani . Further more Kenya had gotten a better deal from the same investors who went to Rwanda only for Uhuru and Ruto to refuse the deal back in 2014.
We said here Rutos was trying to trying to solve his economic mess using politics and it wont work .
Rutos government just looks like Moi government of 90s .He wont manage to achieve anything at this rate , bad economy,  bad politics , bad foreign policy bad eveything.

Kenya is ripe with misinformation. Adani had not signed anything in Kenya, and if he did, there was a clause in the agreement to hold both sides accountable. Kenya, like Africa, is a risky place with few billionaires, so outsiders must be sought because big money is needed in this PPP. Rwanda has managed to bring 90% outside money with little opposition, but it is hard to do it in Kenya because of bad politics and trust that has been eroded over time.
Title: Re: Adani charged with $250m bribery in US
Post by: RV Kirgit on November 21, 2024, 10:21:19 PM
This Adani saga seem like Modi friend got trapped for blackmail by anti-BRICS gang. They probably want Modi head out of BRICS as India is still undecided whether to join BRICS or fight china 100%.

It was easy to trap a greedy Indian. Let see what Ruto does to local accomplices!
Title: Re: Adani charged with $250m bribery in US
Post by: Georgesoros on November 22, 2024, 02:37:53 AM
Ruto isthe happest man. He was looking for a way out after it became clear that the deal was very unpopular
Title: Re: Adani charged with $250m bribery in US
Post by: Githunguri on November 22, 2024, 02:56:19 AM
Probability of murkomen chirchir extradition.

Accounts frozen.
Title: Re: Adani charged with $250m bribery in US
Post by: RV Pundit on November 22, 2024, 04:44:37 AM
Ruto had to cancel because us sec actions impairs adani ability. Lucky escape.
Title: Re: Adani charged with $250m bribery in US
Post by: patel on November 22, 2024, 12:01:11 PM
Remember Adani has already eaten 104 billions in SHIF, SHAH, SHIT. How could we give such a criminal that kind of money ????
Title: Re: Adani charged with $250m bribery in US
Post by: Georgesoros on November 24, 2024, 11:44:59 PM
Probability of murkomen chirchir extradition.

Accounts frozen.

I have a feeling that some kind of illegal activity was happening and that is the reason Ruto cancelled it too quickly.
But this is an investigation that went on for a while.
DOJ takes time to do investigation.
Title: Re: Adani charged with $250m bribery in US
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on November 25, 2024, 03:56:35 AM
NHIF scammers are the ones spreading SHI/SHA misinformation after they were fingered! They took a heavy hit and they can't believe it! “SHA is probably being dragged into the alleged Adani deals by the cartels who were benefiting from NHIF at the expense of citizens.”
Remember Adani has already eaten 104 billions in SHIF, SHAH, SHIT. How could we give such a criminal that kind of money ????
The Social Health Authority (SHA) does not have any contract with any service provider on digitisation of Universal Healthcare Coverage (UHC) software, it has emerged.

Board chair Abdi Mohammed clarified that the existing contract that SHA inherited was between the defunct National Hospital Insurance Fund (NHIF) and the service providers of the system they were using called HICS.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2024-11-22-we-were-not-part-of-adani-deals-sha-clarifies