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Title: Kenya athletics on a downward spiral
Post by: RV Kirgit on August 04, 2024, 09:36:01 PM
The Olympic France performance is worst since the first time Olympics was invented.

Late Kevin Kiptum could have been Kenya flag bearer. Kipchoge should be retired coaching or consulting for Kenya sports.

Just seen 100m omanyala tried but lost to tall giant Jamaicans and Americans. Looks like he lost and not getting to finals.

Sprinting probably need 6 ft and above height with muscle. Bold was 6.5 and the winning Jamaicans are tall a.f.
Title: Re: Kenya athletics on a downward spiral
Post by: RV Kirgit on August 04, 2024, 10:16:39 PM
I forgot to mention the shitty outfits.

Every other Kenyan seem to wear a different color. No consistency.

Probably different tenderpreneuers supplying costumes. It look like a huge mess here.
Title: Re: Kenya athletics on a downward spiral
Post by: RV Pundit on August 04, 2024, 10:36:39 PM
Drug testing removing lots of cheats. We have four women prospects. Men not so enthusiastic
Title: Re: Kenya athletics on a downward spiral
Post by: KenyanPlato on August 05, 2024, 11:27:08 AM
Money ..Kenya athletes in long distance don't see value of winning gold medal. The real money is in road races abroad
Title: Re: Kenya athletics on a downward spiral
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on August 05, 2024, 05:18:58 PM
The Olympic France performance is worst since the first time Olympics was invented.

Late Kevin Kiptum could have been Kenya flag bearer. Kipchoge should be retired coaching or consulting for Kenya sports.

Just seen 100m omanyala tried but lost to tall giant Jamaicans and Americans. Looks like he lost and not getting to finals.

Sprinting probably need 6 ft and above height with muscle. Bold was 6.5 and the winning Jamaicans are tall a.f.

Like Pundit mentioned, Diamond League has ruined it, for the races they don't host.  I still see medals in 800(Moraa and Wanyonyi), and of course Faith Kipyegon and marathon. 

Omanyala was a flash in the pan, and his fairy tale may be coming to an end.  He struggles mightily against quality competition, and at low altitudes.  Not going faster than 10.08 on what is the fastest track in history won't cut it.  The worst guy in the finals ran 9.91. 
Title: Re: Kenya athletics on a downward spiral
Post by: RV Pundit on August 05, 2024, 05:23:55 PM
Yes I think we will be lucky if we get something out  Wanyonyi for 800m and 3000 steeplechase men - maybe team work to get a bronze or silver. We might get something from Kipchoge in Marathon.

Women - we excellent field - Morara 800m to medal - Faith & Chekpkoech 1500, 3000m & - faith willl double 5000m  - 10K meter world record holder chebet - could do both 5000 and 10,000m - and marathon women we are solid.

So give and take - 1 gold for men - 1 silver - 1 bronze
Women - 3 Golds - 3 silver - 3 Bronze.

Total medeal haul - 4 gold - 4 silver - 4 bronze.

Previously our women use to let us down - but now they are going to save us.

We are going with 4 reigning world record holders in 5 events
1500 - Faith
3000 - Chepkoech
5000 - Faith
10,000 - Chebet
Women Marathon - Peris  (women only record)

So we could potentially medal in 5 events - if we perform at our best.
Big risk - Kenya running for Arabs for 3,000 m and Ayana of Ethiopia is danger on 10K & 5k.
Title: Re: Kenya athletics on a downward spiral
Post by: RV Pundit on August 05, 2024, 08:19:46 PM
Serem messed up but seem he recovered. That is courageous
Title: Re: Kenya athletics on a downward spiral
Post by: RV Pundit on August 05, 2024, 10:32:14 PM
Major chebet outgun Faith. Faith had little scuffle with Tesgay.
Title: Re: Kenya athletics on a downward spiral
Post by: RV Pundit on August 05, 2024, 10:32:48 PM
Gold n silver
Title: Re: Kenya athletics on a downward spiral
Post by: RV Pundit on August 05, 2024, 10:45:59 PM
Faith DQ for tussle with Tesgay
Title: Re: Kenya athletics on a downward spiral
Post by: RV Pundit on August 05, 2024, 10:50:42 PM
Moraa bronze
Title: Re: Kenya athletics on a downward spiral
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on August 06, 2024, 12:04:50 AM
Faith DQ for tussle with Tesgay
I thought she did do something shady there.  Hopefully she revenges with a world record in the 1,500.
Title: Re: Kenya athletics on a downward spiral
Post by: RV Pundit on August 06, 2024, 12:23:40 AM
Tesgay runs like Obiri.. throwing hands n body carelessly..faith overreacted. Tussle was 2 laps away so faith has chances
Title: Re: Kenya athletics on a downward spiral
Post by: RV Pundit on August 07, 2024, 04:34:01 AM
Bronze in 3000m steeplchase women. Gold and Silver in 5K women. Yegon suprisingly had a good throw...can he medal and salvage the men
Title: Re: Kenya athletics on a downward spiral
Post by: RV Pundit on August 07, 2024, 04:58:55 AM
Moraa also won a bronze.
Title: Re: Kenya athletics on a downward spiral
Post by: RV Pundit on August 07, 2024, 05:00:16 AM
Now left 1500 women, 3000 men steeplchase, 10K women, 5K men, and two marathons plus maybe Javelin; 7 events; we can medal in.
Title: Re: Kenya athletics on a downward spiral
Post by: RV Pundit on August 07, 2024, 10:54:46 PM
We picked Bronze via Kibiwott for men Steeplechase to make it 5 medals.
Title: Re: Kenya athletics on a downward spiral
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on August 08, 2024, 07:45:42 PM
We picked Bronze via Kibiwott for men Steeplechase to make it 5 medals.

Looks like the Steeplechase pipeline has dried up in recent years.  The fear that consistency instilled in opponents is gone.
Title: Re: Kenya athletics on a downward spiral
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on August 08, 2024, 09:56:29 PM
Letsile Tebogo zips up Noah Lyles big mouth in the 200.  The future of sprinting is in Southern Africa.  There were 4 Africans in the final, 2 Zimbabweans, 1 Botswanan and 1 Liberian.  You love to see that.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GUeusN0WQAA-cV-?format=jpg)
Title: Re: Kenya athletics on a downward spiral
Post by: RV Pundit on August 08, 2024, 10:05:12 PM
Tebogo got biggest cheer in club here. Noah was nearly dying. Too much arrogance when he won by whisker in 100m. Southern Africa nailing short distance
Title: Re: Kenya athletics on a downward spiral
Post by: Kadudu on August 09, 2024, 11:25:13 AM
Reality on ground is different. US is and will be a super power in sprints for decades to come. The biggest competitor is Jamaica. African countreis still have a long way to go because of poor training facilites. Who pays the athletes when they are training and have no income? For every one athlete that makes it to the Olympics, you need thousands that train very hard and get nowhere. Who can afford to maintain such an enviroment?

Btwm Noah Lyles was running while being covid+. This was a big hinderance. I am not even sure why he was allowed to take part in the race.

Letsile Tebogo zips up Noah Lyles big mouth in the 200.  The future of sprinting is in Southern Africa.  There were 4 Africans in the final, 2 Zimbabweans, 1 Botswanan and 1 Liberian.  You love to see that.
Title: Re: Kenya athletics on a downward spiral
Post by: RV Pundit on August 09, 2024, 01:23:55 PM
800m - Wanyonyi and Kinyamal qualify for finals.
Title: Re: Kenya athletics on a downward spiral
Post by: RV Pundit on August 09, 2024, 10:39:35 PM
Chebet doubles gold - wins 10,000.

We still have gold prospect at 1500 with Faith

And possibly one of the marathons.
Title: Re: Kenya athletics on a downward spiral
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on August 10, 2024, 12:52:42 AM
Chebet doubles gold - wins 10,000.

We still have gold prospect at 1500 with Faith

And possibly one of the marathons.

Yep.  I would add 800(worst case) silver.  Chebet looks like Kipyegon's future nemesis.  But I suspect Faith will move to the marathon as she approaches retirement.
Title: Re: Kenya athletics on a downward spiral
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on August 10, 2024, 12:57:26 AM
Reality on ground is different. US is and will be a super power in sprints for decades to come. The biggest competitor is Jamaica. African countreis still have a long way to go because of poor training facilites. Who pays the athletes when they are training and have no income? For every one athlete that makes it to the Olympics, you need thousands that train very hard and get nowhere. Who can afford to maintain such an enviroment?

Btwm Noah Lyles was running while being covid+. This was a big hinderance. I am not even sure why he was allowed to take part in the race.

Letsile Tebogo zips up Noah Lyles big mouth in the 200.  The future of sprinting is in Southern Africa.  There were 4 Africans in the final, 2 Zimbabweans, 1 Botswanan and 1 Liberian.  You love to see that.

Of course the US is a monster in sprints.  But I am beginning to think Southern Africa has been slept on.  Going forward, Lyles has to contend with Tebogo.  Tebogo is 21 and running times no one - including Usain Bolt - has ever run at that age.  It's easy to overlook the guy because he has a low-key demeanor.  Noah's Covid excuses not-withstanding, Tebogo's winning time was not something even Noah does with regularity. 
Title: Re: Kenya athletics on a downward spiral
Post by: RV Pundit on August 10, 2024, 11:24:09 AM
Kipchoge era ends as finish distant 70.

Kipruto wins us Bronze.

Yes Wanyonyi could pull a gold - suprise.
Title: Re: Kenya athletics on a downward spiral
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on August 10, 2024, 05:40:24 PM
Kipchoge era ends as finish distant 70.

Kipruto wins us Bronze.

Yes Wanyonyi could pull a gold - suprise.

Sad way for Kipchoge to go.  He never recovered from the accusations for Kiptum's death. 
Title: Re: Kenya athletics on a downward spiral
Post by: RV Pundit on August 10, 2024, 08:22:14 PM
Wanyonyi pulls a gold. This boy has lots of future going for him if he remains humble
Title: Re: Kenya athletics on a downward spiral
Post by: RV Pundit on August 10, 2024, 08:23:25 PM
Kipchoge era ends as finish distant 70.

Kipruto wins us Bronze.

Yes Wanyonyi could pull a gold - suprise.

Sad way for Kipchoge to go.  He never recovered from the accusations for Kiptum's death. 
Age is finally catching up..man must 45yrs.. definitely older than me. He can make few millions in appearance fees for maybe two or three marathons before going into coaching
Title: Re: Kenya athletics on a downward spiral
Post by: RV Pundit on August 10, 2024, 08:25:36 PM
Ideally kipchoge should continue running in majors for old folks n make money globally by promoting running
Title: Re: Kenya athletics on a downward spiral
Post by: Nefertiti on August 11, 2024, 11:55:08 AM
I am surprised to learn populous India has zero medals.. almost mkia with tiny Grenada and Fiji :)

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/ng-interactive/2024/aug/08/paris-olympics-2024-medal-table-latest
Title: Re: Kenya athletics on a downward spiral
Post by: gout on August 11, 2024, 12:09:11 PM
The athletes have done very well. They have shaken off the Covid restrictions mismanagement and health implications.

Very competitive spirit.

It was disappointing to see the crazy javelin throws which edged out in form Yego. That Pakistani Nadeem was just surreal. His story too. Just like Yego.

https://www.reuters.com/sports/olympics/mud-brick-house-olympic-podium-arshad-nadeem-is-unlikely-pakistani-hero-2024-08-09/
Title: Re: Kenya athletics on a downward spiral
Post by: gout on August 11, 2024, 12:36:50 PM
This is a universal for career in sports but our environment makes it worse and hard.

There are millions of opportunities for these athletes with global names if they do not focus on retreating to Taptenglei to build manyatta and grab bar maids from hawkish Mulot boys swiping their cards.

They also need to drop inferiority complex first by saying no to the useless limiting police and jeshi jobs. Ile ujinga tuko nayo ni too much. Be arrogant like Kemboi and then use it for showbiz, podcasts, appearances locally/globally and all. Humility kitu gani?

Commentating requires they get serious with public speaking and English lessons. Even Joho has become fluent in English😁. Kwinya government despite having shares in Multichoice and in turn Supersports hires mzungu former athletes as commentators- bure kabisa.

Annual wellness running projects from Cairo to Cape Town.

Likely Kipchoge will be appointed to some useless boards and will end up like corruption tainted Kipchoge in old age.
 
Kipchoge should be retired coaching or consulting for Kenya sports.


Ideally kipchoge should continue running in majors for old folks n make money globally by promoting running
Title: Re: Kenya athletics on a downward spiral
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on August 12, 2024, 05:30:57 AM
Wanyonyi pulls a gold. This boy has lots of future going for him if he remains humble
Wanyonyi is what Nijel Amos thought he was.  Rudisha’s record is on borrowed time and three guys might have eclipsed it by this time next year.
Title: Re: Kenya athletics on a downward spiral
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on August 12, 2024, 06:15:25 AM
The athletes have done very well. They have shaken off the Covid restrictions mismanagement and health implications.

Very competitive spirit.

It was disappointing to see the crazy javelin throws which edged out in form Yego. That Pakistani Nadeem was just surreal. His story too. Just like Yego.

https://www.reuters.com/sports/olympics/mud-brick-house-olympic-podium-arshad-nadeem-is-unlikely-pakistani-hero-2024-08-09/

No cricket in the Olympics.
Title: Re: Kenya athletics on a downward spiral
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on August 12, 2024, 06:22:18 AM
Ideally kipchoge should continue running in majors for old folks n make money globally by promoting running

Wanyonyi pulls a gold. This boy has lots of future going for him if he remains humble
Wanyonyi is what Nijel Amos thought he was.  Rudisha’s record is on borrowed time and three guys might have eclipsed it by this time next year.

You are conflating arrogance for likability.  People like Kipchoge despite his humble demeanor.  The winnings do the talking.
Title: Re: Kenya athletics on a downward spiral
Post by: gout on August 14, 2024, 03:52:04 PM
Amazing Tebogo homecoming celebrations in Botswana.

Title: Re: Kenya athletics on a downward spiral
Post by: gout on August 14, 2024, 05:34:05 PM
The humiliation.
Title: Re: Kenya athletics on a downward spiral
Post by: gout on August 14, 2024, 06:00:59 PM
Juba did it for the basketball team