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Title: People are losing hope with Ruto too early - 3 Options to salvage this
Post by: lelewela on July 12, 2023, 11:31:24 PM
1. Kenyattas , Rai's and etc  should be pay the price of funding anarchy- Tax
2.Get Kalonzo out of Railas bossom
3.This is very important , fuel arrives at the port of Mombassa at 73 shs.(a barell @81usd/145) , give the oil companys a amargin of 20 shs, and the retailer a margin of 7shs. In total you have 100 and max 50 shilling for government taxes(fuel levy, road ... etc). So reduce price to 150 pump price.This is doable, and Ruto should show the masses he cares about them, while having the financial bill intact.

Currently GoK is making around 80 shs on a liter of fuel, reduce this to 50 max to rejuvinate local industries and reduce price of milling Posho.

Prezo get me onboard by sending me a PM , Ndii is too eltist , his theories need moderarion with common sense! Dont give Raila and Uhuru chance, get back mwananchi

Alles ist machbar!
Title: Re: People are losing hope with Ruto too early - 3 Options to salvage this
Post by: patel on July 13, 2023, 12:01:31 AM
Ruto has to wake up to the fact he is in the middle of economic warfare with Dynasty. No theory can cure sabotage only brute force or attrition. If Ruto had solved kenyatta issue all these mafakas would have fallen in line. Less than 100 families run this zoo. Nyorosha
Title: Re: People are losing hope with Ruto too early - 3 Options to salvage this
Post by: RV Pundit on July 13, 2023, 04:46:05 AM
Just deal with saboteurs firmly n decisively
Title: Re: People are losing hope with Ruto too early - 3 Options to salvage this
Post by: Githunguri on July 13, 2023, 06:05:12 AM
Lets be honest.

(1) How does Uhuru control gas oil milk rice unga cooking oil prices?

(2) How much taxes has Ruto collected since he took over goverment?

(3) What Percentage of revenues is used to pay taxes?

Title: Re: People are losing hope with Ruto too early - 3 Options to salvage this
Post by: audacityofhope on July 13, 2023, 09:13:50 AM
Quote from: Githunguri on July 13, 2023, 06:05:12 AM
Lets be honest.

(1) How does Uhuru control gas oil milk rice unga cooking oil prices?

(2) How much taxes has Ruto collected since he took over goverment?

(3) What Percentage of revenues is used to pay taxes?


Mbona unapost sentence haielewki??
Title: Re: People are losing hope with Ruto too early - 3 Options to salvage this
Post by: audacityofhope on July 13, 2023, 09:17:08 AM
The president knows on which path to lead this nation but has chosen not to do so and in a bizarre twist, is walking the complete opposite route. Can you blame wananchi for taking matters into their own hands within the law?

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Title: Re: People are losing hope with Ruto too early - 3 Options to salvage this
Post by: Georgesoros on July 13, 2023, 02:41:05 PM

Policy, Policy Policy  =  Not much in terms of policy that is why the failure. The housing tax should have been saving. Save 10k, govt gives you 5% per year.
Title: Re: People are losing hope with Ruto too early - 3 Options to salvage this
Post by: sema on July 13, 2023, 04:55:27 PM
The problem I have with David Ndii is that he is not ELECTED. He needs to remain in the background when it comes to politics and stop making these arrogant statements on twitter.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We are not budging. Overthrow the government if you are able, otherwise wait for elections. <a href="https://t.co/rmsETtfLK2">https://t.co/rmsETtfLK2</a></p>&mdash; David Ndii (@DavidNdii) <a href="?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 13, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Title: Re: People are losing hope with Ruto too early - 3 Options to salvage this
Post by: lelewela on July 13, 2023, 08:52:54 PM
Leave the theory of Ndii aside, pull the rug out of Railas feet. Prez Ruto should reduce fuel taxes by 50% , we need this to have boda boda, matatu and hustlers on our aide.
We can wait for development budget until 2025.


Quote from: sema on July 13, 2023, 04:55:27 PM
The problem I have with David Ndii is that he is not ELECTED. He needs to remain in the background when it comes to politics and stop making these arrogant statements on twitter.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We are not budging. Overthrow the government if you are able, otherwise wait for elections. <a href="https://t.co/rmsETtfLK2">https://t.co/rmsETtfLK2</a></p>&mdash; David Ndii (@DavidNdii) <a href="?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 13, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Title: Re: People are losing hope with Ruto too early - 3 Options to salvage this
Post by: sema on July 13, 2023, 09:58:08 PM
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We can wait for development budget until 2025.

But ruto is following Ndii's plan and I believe it'll eventually work, but it needs time. So, maybe ruto just needs to remain hard core. No folding like a weakling.

Kaa ngumu.
Title: Re: People are losing hope with Ruto too early - 3 Options to salvage this
Post by: RV Kirgit on July 14, 2023, 01:56:13 AM
Ndii is a communist. He Receive money from dynasties like Oxford, Ford foundation, Rockefeller, sorros etc

I don't know how Ruto manage trust him.
Title: Re: People are losing hope with Ruto too early - 3 Options to salvage this
Post by: Georgesoros on July 14, 2023, 04:45:41 AM
Ruto lacks wisdom. He reacts impulsively. People are hungry and want short and long term solutions. I see no policies to address any. Reduce taxes reduce size of govt and fire cronies to start
Title: Re: People are losing hope with Ruto too early - 3 Options to salvage this
Post by: gout on July 14, 2023, 02:38:20 PM
The urban poor all over the country are speaking. Never has Ukambani been this violent even Wote in deep Makueni slum dwellers are engaging police.

Quote from: RV Pundit on July 13, 2023, 04:46:05 AM
Just deal with saboteurs firmly n decisively
Title: Re: People are losing hope with Ruto too early - 3 Options to salvage this
Post by: audacityofhope on July 14, 2023, 04:50:52 PM
Quote from: gout on July 14, 2023, 02:38:20 PM
The urban poor all over the country are speaking. Never has Ukambani been this violent even Wote in deep Makueni slum dwellers are engaging police.

Quote from: RV Pundit on July 13, 2023, 04:46:05 AM
Just deal with saboteurs firmly n decisively
The world is watching. He will leave after his term with a legacy of infamy.

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Title: Re: People are losing hope with Ruto too early - 3 Options to salvage this
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on July 15, 2023, 10:28:08 AM
Quote from: RV Kirgit on July 14, 2023, 01:56:13 AM
Ndii is a communist. He Receive money from dynasties like Oxford, Ford foundation, Rockefeller, sorros etc

I don't know how Ruto manage trust him.
Problem with Ruto once he trust you hakuna brakes he wont go back and thats why he will go by what Ndiii is saying even if its against common logic.
Title: Re: People are losing hope with Ruto too early - 3 Options to salvage this
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on July 15, 2023, 10:30:48 AM
Quote from: lelewela on July 12, 2023, 11:31:24 PM
1. Kenyattas , Rai's and etc  should be pay the price of funding anarchy- Tax
2.Get Kalonzo out of Railas bossom
3.This is very important , fuel arrives at the port of Mombassa at 73 shs.(a barell @81usd/145) , give the oil companys a amargin of 20 shs, and the retailer a margin of 7shs. In total you have 100 and max 50 shilling for government taxes(fuel levy, road ... etc). So reduce price to 150 pump price.This is doable, and Ruto should show the masses he cares about them, while having the financial bill intact.

Currently GoK is making around 80 shs on a liter of fuel, reduce this to 50 max to rejuvinate local industries and reduce price of milling Posho.

Prezo get me onboard by sending me a PM , Ndii is too eltist , his theories need moderarion with common sense! Dont give Raila and Uhuru chance, get back mwananchi

Alles ist machbar!
You have a point problem i see with Ndii is he ignores common problem facing mwanachi in favour of macro economics, he foregets in a country like Kenya where people are poor his miscalculation will simply lead to more poverty.
He needs balance between macro and micro economics. But Ndii will sink Ruto for sure.
Title: Re: People are losing hope with Ruto too early - 3 Options to salvage this
Post by: lelewela on July 15, 2023, 03:23:29 PM
Njuri we ni mtu wa mtaa, people are not demonstrating because of Raila except Nyanza nd  some sections of Nairobi.

Many have joined the demo of last week even in small villages like Lengasuka near Wamba( I happened to be there) , boda boda demonstrated, this is related to fuel price not  even food price.
You have so many idle youths working in Boda industry and this are the ones  who control the villages now, reduce fuel taxes and levies by 50%. For the next 1 year until we have stability, but ignoring boda boda guys will  give Ruto a very difficult time.

Govetment will lose 140b in taxes if  fuel taxes are reduced by half,  reduce transport budget for the next 1 year but win the heart of villages.

Hii ya Raila chapa yeye

Uhuru let him pay by demolishing his businesses.


Quote from: Njuri Ncheke on July 15, 2023, 10:30:48 AM
Quote from: lelewela on July 12, 2023, 11:31:24 PM
1. Kenyattas , Rai's and etc  should be pay the price of funding anarchy- Tax
2.Get Kalonzo out of Railas bossom
3.This is very important , fuel arrives at the port of Mombassa at 73 shs.(a barell @81usd/145) , give the oil companys a amargin of 20 shs, and the retailer a margin of 7shs. In total you have 100 and max 50 shilling for government taxes(fuel levy, road ... etc). So reduce price to 150 pump price.This is doable, and Ruto should show the masses he cares about them, while having the financial bill intact.

Currently GoK is making around 80 shs on a liter of fuel, reduce this to 50 max to rejuvinate local industries and reduce price of milling Posho.

Prezo get me onboard by sending me a PM , Ndii is too eltist , his theories need moderarion with common sense! Dont give Raila and Uhuru chance, get back mwananchi

Alles ist machbar!
You have a point problem i see with Ndii is he ignores common problem facing mwanachi in favour of macro economics, he foregets in a country like Kenya where people are poor his miscalculation will simply lead to more poverty.
He needs balance between macro and micro economics. But Ndii will sink Ruto for sure.
Title: Re: People are losing hope with Ruto too early - 3 Options to salvage this
Post by: RV Pundit on July 15, 2023, 04:32:58 PM
Appease people and default on loan is stupid.
Election is 2027
Let the peasant revolt.
Election is 2027
They will forget about this soon.
Title: Re: People are losing hope with Ruto too early - 3 Options to salvage this
Post by: RV Kirgit on July 03, 2024, 07:36:40 AM
Quote from: sema on July 13, 2023, 04:55:27 PM
The problem I have with David Ndii is that he is not ELECTED. He needs to remain in the background when it comes to politics and stop making these arrogant statements on twitter.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We are not budging. Overthrow the government if you are able, otherwise wait for elections. <a href="https://t.co/rmsETtfLK2">https://t.co/rmsETtfLK2</a></p>&mdash; David Ndii (@DavidNdii) <a href="?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 13, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Is it too late?
Title: Re: People are losing hope with Ruto too early - 3 Options to salvage this
Post by: gout on July 03, 2024, 11:07:53 AM
We will be here next few months as fake fertilizer effects become evident and the La Nina wipes out EL Nino bumper harvest surplus.
 
Quote from: gout on July 14, 2023, 02:38:20 PM
The urban poor all over the country are speaking. Never has Ukambani been this violent even Wote in deep Makueni slum dwellers are engaging police.

Quote from: RV Pundit on July 13, 2023, 04:46:05 AM
Just deal with saboteurs firmly n decisively
Title: Re: People are losing hope with Ruto too early - 3 Options to salvage this
Post by: lelewela on July 03, 2024, 03:32:47 PM
My Lord, I forgot about this thread! We foresaw what was coming , the economy was bad and now with Gachagua pouring fuel on the fire. The situation now needs different solution.

Quote from: lelewela on July 13, 2023, 08:52:54 PM
Leave the theory of Ndii aside, pull the rug out of Railas feet. Prez Ruto should reduce fuel taxes by 50% , we need this to have boda boda, matatu and hustlers on our aide.
We can wait for development budget until 2025.


Quote from: sema on July 13, 2023, 04:55:27 PM
The problem I have with David Ndii is that he is not ELECTED. He needs to remain in the background when it comes to politics and stop making these arrogant statements on twitter.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We are not budging. Overthrow the government if you are able, otherwise wait for elections. <a href="https://t.co/rmsETtfLK2">https://t.co/rmsETtfLK2</a></p>&mdash; David Ndii (@DavidNdii) <a href="?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 13, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Title: Re: People are losing hope with Ruto too early - 3 Options to salvage this
Post by: RV Kirgit on July 15, 2024, 03:25:24 PM
Quote from: RV Kirgit on July 14, 2023, 01:56:13 AM
Ndii is a communist. He Receive money from dynasties like Oxford, Ford foundation, Rockefeller, sorros etc

I don't know how Ruto manage trust him.

Title: Re: People are losing hope with Ruto too early - 3 Options to salvage this
Post by: Kadudu on July 15, 2024, 03:55:49 PM
So he should just call his buddy Joe in Washington DC to clear the issue with the Ford Foundation.

Btw, does he even not know his economic advisor David Ndii is a scholar of the Ford Foundation. The enemy is not in SH and sitting illegally in cabinet meetings. :D :D :D

Quote from: RV Kirgit on July 15, 2024, 03:25:24 PM

Title: Re: People are losing hope with Ruto too early - 3 Options to salvage this
Post by: Georgesoros on July 15, 2024, 04:24:32 PM
Quote from: Kadudu on July 15, 2024, 03:55:49 PM
So he should just call his buddy Joe in Washington DC to clear the issue with the Ford Foundation.

Btw, does he even not know his economic advisor David Ndii is a scholar of the Ford Foundation. The enemy is not in SH and sitting illegally in cabinet meetings. :D :D :D

Quote from: RV Kirgit on July 15, 2024, 03:25:24 PM


I guess they are also funding incompetent appointments that led to protests??
Instead of doing what is needed he is blaming everyone.
He can start by appointing a tribunal to hear corruption cases,right??
Title: Re: People are losing hope with Ruto too early - 3 Options to salvage this
Post by: Kadudu on July 15, 2024, 05:21:34 PM
That will never happen. He is the father of corruption and cannot appoint a tribunal to investigate himself.

Quote from: Georgesoros on July 15, 2024, 04:24:32 PM
I guess they are also funding incompetent appointments that led to protests??
Instead of doing what is needed he is blaming everyone.
He can start by appointing a tribunal to hear corruption cases,right??
Title: Re: People are losing hope with Ruto too early - 3 Options to salvage this
Post by: RV Kirgit on July 16, 2024, 02:49:20 AM
Look like the duo Ndii and Ngunyi (used to) work for ford foundation:)

Title: Re: People are losing hope with Ruto too early - 3 Options to salvage this
Post by: RV Kirgit on July 16, 2024, 02:56:11 AM
What happen here:

Title: Re: People are losing hope with Ruto too early - 3 Options to salvage this
Post by: RV Kirgit on July 16, 2024, 03:07:18 AM
Makes huge money consulting for evil society.

Look like Kagame was smart enough to terminate before he got couped

Title: Re: People are losing hope with Ruto too early - 3 Options to salvage this
Post by: Georgesoros on July 16, 2024, 03:32:42 AM
Why is Ndii posting such? To gain support or what?
Title: Re: People are losing hope with Ruto too early - 3 Options to salvage this
Post by: RV Kirgit on July 17, 2024, 02:53:40 AM
Look like Ndii and his coworkers is eating biggly
(https://i.postimg.cc/g001PBjw/Screenshot-20240716-174620.png) (https://postimg.cc/dhz5268v)

(https://i.postimg.cc/dQzFjv15/Screenshot-20240716-174806.png) (https://postimg.cc/xqyB9wLm)

https://www.fordfoundation.org/work/our-grants/awarded-grants/grants-database/?after=2024&before=2024&regions_tax=east-africa&search=kenya
Title: Re: People are losing hope with Ruto too early - 3 Options to salvage this
Post by: gout on July 17, 2024, 02:31:41 PM
$335K is not enough for one globalist wannabe trip out of Kenya. These are just salaries and allowances for the white expats and some token nyeuthis.  They are enjoying the status quo as a revolt will make their problem statements null and void and be told to move to DRC or Juba.

The NIS alone has an outrageous budget of $307m. And when big g says Haji is incompetent ohh boy, every one who gets to eat from the slush funds get frothing.