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Title: Budget Controller throws ufool under bus - they pressurd her to release 15B
Post by: RV Pundit on March 07, 2023, 02:55:15 PM
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Title: Re: Budget Controller throws ufool under bus - they pressurd her to release 15B
Post by: Georgesoros on March 07, 2023, 03:53:55 PM
I believe this is all legal for a president to order treasury to do such, right??
I dont agree with it but there is no crime committed here.
So what are the reforms??
Title: Re: Budget Controller throws ufool under bus - they pressurd her to release 15B
Post by: RV Pundit on March 07, 2023, 04:11:13 PM
Then why have budget controller?
Why doesnt president have power to order anything he wants.


Office of the Controller of Budget

The Office of the Controller of Budget (OCOB) is an independent office established under Article 228 of the Constitution of Kenya with the core mandate being to oversee implementation of the budgets of the National and County Governments by authorizing the withdrawal from public funds.

Article 288
   The Controller shall not approve any withdrawal from a public fund unless satisfied that the withdrawal is authorised by law.
Every four months, the Controller shall submit to each House of Parliament a report on the implementation of the budgets of the national and county governments. – Constitution of Kenya – Article 228

I believe this is all legal for a president to order treasury to do such, right??
I dont agree with it but there is no crime committed here.
So what are the reforms??
Title: Re: Budget Controller throws ufool under bus - they pressurd her to release 15B
Post by: KenyanPlato on March 07, 2023, 05:29:47 PM
controller of budget is an independent office. she should be fired for allowing this to happen
Title: Re: Budget Controller throws ufool under bus - they pressurd her to release 15B
Post by: RV Pundit on March 07, 2023, 06:17:56 PM
Of course but so should Uhuru and Ukuru for abusing their power.
controller of budget is an independent office. she should be fired for allowing this to happen
Title: Re: Budget Controller throws ufool under bus - they pressurd her to release 15B
Post by: Kadudu on March 07, 2023, 06:42:19 PM
Exactly. She could also be playing the same game again.

She like the DPP should have been fired like yesterday. Independent body giving in to political pressure makes a joke of the office.

controller of budget is an independent office. she should be fired for allowing this to happen
Title: Re: Budget Controller throws ufool under bus - they pressurd her to release 15B
Post by: KenyanPlato on March 07, 2023, 07:06:48 PM
Of course but so should Uhuru and Ukuru for abusing their power.
controller of budget is an independent office. she should be fired for allowing this to happen

uhuru should be arrested why hasn't he.
Title: Re: Budget Controller throws ufool under bus - they pressurd her to release 15B
Post by: RV Pundit on March 07, 2023, 09:04:36 PM
Ruto is afraid of many morons like you in Mt kenya will wail - they are finishing us.

So he will be punished china ya maji; Ruto will take his billions pole pole; same impact;

uhuru should be arrested why hasn't he.
Title: Re: Budget Controller throws ufool under bus - they pressurd her to release 15B
Post by: Nowayhaha on March 07, 2023, 09:15:57 PM
Comptroller of State House and CS of Finance should be in courts as we speak . This money is recoverable if it wasnt used to finance campaigns .
But then again who are in EACC and DPP same appointees of previous regimes . Something doesnt add up.
Title: Re: Budget Controller throws ufool under bus - they pressurd her to release 15B
Post by: RV Pundit on March 07, 2023, 10:27:52 PM
CS of Finance and Uhuru; Comptroller ametoka wapi pia? Ohoo I agree he is accounting office.

Right best thing is to follow the money - CS finance - then whoever cashed out the money - and try them

Comptroller of State House and CS of Finance should be in courts as we speak . This money is recoverable if it wasnt used to finance campaigns .
But then again who are in EACC and DPP same appointees of previous regimes . Something doesnt add up.
Title: Re: Budget Controller throws ufool under bus - they pressurd her to release 15B
Post by: KenyanPlato on March 08, 2023, 01:39:22 AM
Ruto is afraid of many morons like you in Mt kenya will wail - they are finishing us.

So he will be punished china ya maji; Ruto will take his billions pole pole; same impact;

uhuru should be arrested why hasn't he.
sisi hatuna Habari. if our cousin stole we will ask him to return what he stole and make sure he never does it again. all we we won't allow is any denial of his full rights as enshrined in our constitution. the burden is on you to prove the allegations and be able to sustain them in court of law
Title: Re: Budget Controller throws ufool under bus - they pressurd her to release 15B
Post by: Georgesoros on March 08, 2023, 01:50:35 AM
Ruto is afraid of many morons like you in Mt kenya will wail - they are finishing us.

So he will be punished china ya maji; Ruto will take his billions pole pole; same impact;

uhuru should be arrested why hasn't he.
sisi hatuna Habari. if our cousin stole we will ask him to return what he stole and make sure he never does it again. all we we won't allow is any denial of his full rights as enshrined in our constitution. the burden is on you to prove the allegations and be able to sustain them in court of law

Like Moi used to say "Court of law kitu gani"?
Kenya ina wenyewe.
These people are the law.
They can manipulate the courts to whatever they like - Sounds like Rethuglicans
Title: Re: Budget Controller throws ufool under bus - they pressurd her to release 15B
Post by: RV Pundit on March 08, 2023, 01:53:06 AM
Kufinywa lazima mpaka apike nduru. Ruto survived for 5yrs by being smart.
sisi hatuna Habari. if our cousin stole we will ask him to return what he stole and make sure he never does it again. all we we won't allow is any denial of his full rights as enshrined in our constitution. the burden is on you to prove the allegations and be able to sustain them in court of law
Title: Re: Budget Controller throws ufool under bus - they pressurd her to release 15B
Post by: sema on March 08, 2023, 07:18:07 AM
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controller of budget is an independent office. she should be fired for allowing this to happen

You release the money or you end up dead were her choices
Title: Re: Budget Controller throws ufool under bus - they pressurd her to release 15B
Post by: Georgesoros on March 08, 2023, 08:01:39 PM
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controller of budget is an independent office. she should be fired for allowing this to happen

You release the money or you end up dead were her choices

I told you guys that this was all legal.
Stop spreading lies.

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2023-03-08-i-was-asked-to-release-sh159bn-for-gachaguas-office-yatani/
Title: Re: Budget Controller throws ufool under bus - they pressurd her to release 15B
Post by: RV Pundit on March 08, 2023, 09:22:30 PM
No.
Stop being a moron.
It VERY LEGAL for Treasury to Ask COB to release funds without budget lines.
The catch the COB must be satisfied with documentations.
That is the PROBLEM.
COB says in some instance - she asked Ukuru for invoices to match payment request - they were not forthcoming.

THAT IS THE DISPUTE.

SOME PAYMENTS WERE IRREGULARLY APPROVED WITHOUT REQUSITE DOCUMENTS like INVOICES matching them.

Maize - Yattan only had invoices of 400M - but wanted 4B released?


I told you guys that this was all legal.
Stop spreading lies.

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2023-03-08-i-was-asked-to-release-sh159bn-for-gachaguas-office-yatani/

Title: Re: Budget Controller throws ufool under bus - they pressurd her to release 15B
Post by: patel on March 09, 2023, 03:59:04 AM
Why cannt this woman just resign instead of waiting to be fired? Only a coup or revolution can save her job. She need to go to jail or turn state witness.
Title: Re: Budget Controller throws ufool under bus - they pressurd her to release 15B
Post by: RV Pundit on March 09, 2023, 09:01:08 AM
It's good she has open the pandora box. She should be made a state witness in a plea bargain - which will include her resigning.
Why cannt this woman just resign instead of waiting to be fired? Only a coup or revolution can save her job. She need to go to jail or turn state witness.
Title: Re: Budget Controller throws ufool under bus - they pressurd her to release 15B
Post by: Nowayhaha on March 09, 2023, 09:03:28 AM
Nope she should face the full wrath of the law . Duale is doing good to handle Political angle of this mess with Yatani .


It's good she has open the pandora box. She should be made a state witness in a plea bargain - which will include her resigning.
Why cannt this woman just resign instead of waiting to be fired? Only a coup or revolution can save her job. She need to go to jail or turn state witness.