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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on February 11, 2023, 09:19:09 PM
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Deploy kdf and drones ?t=U_1BpX7kpm6U1JLRQaassw&s=19
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Poor kindiki
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It's. Shame
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Yep. Army with equipment like RPG and what have you seems to have worked in UG.
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Why are they refusing to deploy KDF?
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It has smelt itself each other and biting itself each other. <br><br>-Kumenuka Na kimeumana<a href="https://twitter.com/WilliamsRuto?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WilliamsRuto</a>, I have only one question for you. <br><br>-Kindiki? <br>"What's up?" <a href="https://t.co/rA2cNmLZZe">pic.twitter.com/rA2cNmLZZe</a></p>— Kirasho (@kanairopreneur) <a href="Invalid Tweet ID?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 11, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Video shows Hawk-eyed Officers trying to repulse Pokot bandits along Lodwar-Kitale Highway in Turkana South earlier today. <a href="https://t.co/g2ujnwSoFW">pic.twitter.com/g2ujnwSoFW</a></p>— #InsecurityKE (@InsecurityKE) <a href="?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 11, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Fighting Pokot successfully would involve targeting the entire community simply because the bandits disappear into the community once they conduct an attack and simply varnish so the Pokot know you cant find them. Using the community as a safe haven.
All Pokots living in affected areas have to be considered suspect and dealt with ruthlessly.
Lets wait and see how Ruto fights them it will be interesting Pokot have actually murdered and raped fellow kalenjins marakwet tugen and elgeyo to extinction. They seem not to understand kalenjin unity.
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What is needed is to enclose them by creating a buffer around them.The buffer should become training grounds for nys gsu army and aps...move all these useless barracks in Nairobi there..buy land from Pokot neighbours..then convert them to military barracks.
Put military barracks in south turkana near Pokot border, one in Samburu, one in Laikipia, one in Baringo and one in Elgeyo Marakwet.
The APS, GSUs and KDF should occupy that zone with heavy equipment.
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You mean mass human rights violation. That will put Ruto in bad light.
Kalenjin use to attack each other except for Nandi-Kispisigis.
When Mzungu was arriving, Nandi had nearly decimated Pokots, Sabaots, and Keiyos.
Pokots turned the table on other kalenjin when they acquired guns from Uganda and South Sudan.
Otherwise, the most prolific cattle thieves were Nandis - followed by Kipsigis.
Kalenjin unity is new thing - what is very old is unity of Nandi, Kipsigis and southern Tugen (Lembus)
Fighting Pokot successfully would involve targeting the entire community simply because the bandits disappear into the community once they conduct an attack and simply varnish so the Pokot know you cant find them. Using the community as a safe haven.
All Pokots living in affected areas have to be considered suspect and dealt with ruthlessly.
Lets wait and see how Ruto fights them it will be interesting Pokot have actually murdered and raped fellow kalenjins marakwet tugen and elgeyo to extinction. They seem not to understand kalenjin unity.
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Form seeing this clip below You can tell Pokots are fully motivated can someone please translate what they are saying
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid02WxQvgZqhrpvA4JDRmkJz8sFaRdj3PyfSgsttpLF3gJpESFLtcsG59NcfUP9AHEqEl&id=100050794181317&mibextid=Nif5oz
This reminds me of how each bandit kabila have interacted with on my ranch during conflict behaves,
1)Turkana are very similar to pokot from seeing this clip Turkana dance and walking/gait including shooting is very similar to Pokot
It appears though Pokot have more serviceable rifles I could see AK and G3 interesting to know if the G3 are police or reserving sourced.
2)Samburu are more quiet and discreet in their attacks but generally overconfident but very good sharp shooters. Attack in small numbers ad opposed to Turkana who attacks in large numbers. Samburus have also good serviceable rifles.
3)Somalis ,Just like al shabab somalis fire openly without necessarily taking cover I have never understood why this whether thereis incoming fire or not they don't take cover if you are a coward you will easily run away from a somali attack coz they only stop when run out of ammunition and then what follows is you will be overun and annihilated.
When KDF was overrun in El adde,Kolbiyo and recently Lamu all indications are they crumbled under this relentless fire,thats why I say KDF are very poor tactically .
The trick with dealing with this you take cover change positions and take them down you have always before firing make sure the position you are you can quickly take cover and change location without being detected preferred modus operandi is to fire from an area with a trench thats not visible to the bandit then as bandit returns fire you take cover as you ran/crawl or roll along the trench then come up on a different location and hit the bandits from their back or flank, usually totally unnerving to bandits they never dare come back.
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Pokot believe Ruto is out to finish them.
Ruto had in jubilee 1.0 send KDF and heavy police punch on them.
They are therefore putting their resistance out there.
Saying they will go down fighting.
Yes Turkana, Maasai and Somali attack in large number - frontal attack - human wave.
If they get you on a bad day - they can devastate you.
Pokots like other kalenjin rarely do that - they plan their raids very meticulously with serious reconnaissance missions - and have sharp shooters strategically located.
They use a lot of decoy, deceptions and false moves.
I guess samburu has copied certain aspect of kalenjin fighting.
Kalenjin fighting can be described best here
"The war tactics perfected and used by the Nandi at the time were; Ambushes, exploitation of weather and terrain, use of higher grounds, morning raids, peaceful penetreation, spying, Reconnaissance, deception, misdirection and myriad of guerrilla tactics."
To beat Pokot - you must invest in intelligence.
The most valued people in kalenjin warfare are sharp shooters - the same for pokots - those are guys who are strategically placed - and will NOT MISS - they are selected after through shooting competitions.
The main squad are decoy - they will shoot aimlessly and run pretending to fall back - they will take you to where sharp shooters are waiting for you - in very tight corners - where you'll be taken out one by one.
If they are going for the raid - the warriors who take the cows and attack are not skilled - the real sharp shooters are linned up in all strategic position - mostly higher grounds - they lay waiting for a signal - if the enemy is pursuing they prepare to finish once you cross their viewpoint. Their snipers are very well trained and gifted - selected right from MTC - they will not miss you.
Form seeing this clip below You can tell Pokots are fully motivated can someone please translate what they are saying
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid02WxQvgZqhrpvA4JDRmkJz8sFaRdj3PyfSgsttpLF3gJpESFLtcsG59NcfUP9AHEqEl&id=100050794181317&mibextid=Nif5oz
This reminds me of how each bandit kabila have interacted with on my ranch during conflict behaves,
1)Turkana are very similar to pokot from seeing this clip Turkana dance and walking/gait including shooting is very similar to Pokot
It appears though Pokot have more serviceable rifles I could see AK and G3 interesting to know if the G3 are police or reserving sourced.
2)Samburu are more quiet and discreet in their attacks but generally overconfident but very good sharp shooters. Attack in small numbers ad opposed to Turkana who attacks in large numbers. Samburus have also good serviceable rifles.
3)Somalis ,Just like al shabab somalis fire openly without necessarily taking cover I have never understood why this whether thereis incoming fire or not they don't take cover if you are a coward you will easily run away from a somali attack coz they only stop when run out of ammunition and then what follows is you will be overun and annihilated.
When KDF was overrun in El adde,Kolbiyo and recently Lamu all indications are they crumbled under this relentless fire,thats why I say KDF are very poor tactically .
The trick with dealing with this you take cover change positions and take them down you have always before firing make sure the position you are you can quickly take cover and change location without being detected preferred modus operandi is to fire from an area with a trench thats not visible to the bandit then as bandit returns fire you take cover as you ran/crawl or roll along the trench then come up on a different location and hit the bandits from their back or flank, usually totally unnerving to bandits they never dare come back.
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How, when, why were Kipsigis and Nandi able to discard cattle rustling??
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Kipsigis - Mzungu created a 10-mile buffer around Kipsigis land - separating them from Gusii, Luos and Maasai.
The Mzungu then settled on the land. It was the only land alienated to curb cattle rustling.
Also well known cattle thieves were removed from that buffer curved from Kipsigis and given land in far interiors away from borders.
That buffer is now Nyamira district - borabu scheme - all the way to muhoroni - most was used to plant tea (sotik tea) and sugar cane (muhoroni-miwani).
It a source of tribal border clashes as it was kipsigis land curved out - that 10 miles or 20km buffer - was later given to gusii/luos after independence by Nyachae and Jaramogi.
My own grandmother and grandfather were born in Nyamira - when my great grandfather later relocated to graze his cow on mzungu land.
In Narok - it was half a mile buffer - and kipsigis were not allowed to cross over to Narok - your cows would be consficated - and my great grandfather did lose all his cows - was paid peanuts as compensation - and died in depression.
How, when, why were Kipsigis and Nandi able to discard cattle rustling??
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Nandi is bit complicated story because they fought Mzungu for 15yrs.
They basically stopped rustling to fight Mzungu - who was attacking them from all directions - with help of subdued tribes who were finally getting even with Nandi - save for Tirki/Kabras - and of course Kipsigis.
Before Mzungu came in 1890s - Nandi had ransacked Luhyas, Luo, Keiyos, Sabaots, Pokots - to restock - after rinderpest had decimated their Maasai stock (Nandi raided Maasai and drove them out from Uasin Gishu-Tranzoia in 1870s).
So by time Mzungu was coming - save for Kipisigis (whom were one people with Nandis until 1830s or about - real cousins/kinsmen) - the Nandis had terrorised western kenya - and were ready for the Brits.
When war ended - Mzungu took huge part of Nandi land as war repartition and each family was fined many cows - something like 100 cows.
Many tough Nandis seeing the reduced land - and cattle fines - took off - unhappy with British-Nandi war deal. Some went to Kipsigis, Luhya, Uganda, Pokot and some even made their way to Tanzania.
The current Pokot cattle rustlers are mostly Nandis.
Those that remained - in Nandi- Mzungu started sports programs - athletics - because Nandis were mostly raiding just for fun of it - as sporting activity for young warriors.
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https://danielsanthropology.com/rites/04/Chapter04.html
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http://cedred.org/jais/images/journal_articles/3/6/8/PDF_-_Prisca_Tanui-Too_-_The_Making_of_the_Nandi_in_Diaspora_1905-1963.pdf
their own out migration to neighbouring regions. They started by establishing links
with host communities in the destination areas. This continued in the colonial period. Where
land was made available to individuals or families the Kenyan colonial government stepped in
and negotiated with Uganda’s and Tanganyika’s administration for long term settlement plans
for larger groups of migrants. Native Registration Ordinance of 1920, made the registration of
every male above 15 years compulsory and restricted the movement of Africans. This did not
prevent the Nandi from moving to new regions when faced with the onslaught of squatter
livestock and land shortages. Many Nandi, with the knowledge and support from the colonial
government relocated to new regions including Uganda, Tanganyika, Maasai, Pokot and
Western Kenya.
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The Nandi who occupied this region were forcefully moved to the northern part of the
territory some hundred kilometres away in the name of safeguarding the railway line which
was occasionally destroyed by the Nandi. The journey was devastating emotionally as well as
economically. Over 16,000 head of cattle out of a total of 18,000 and 36,205 small stock were
rounded off from the Nandi to pay for the war. Nandi resistance to colonial rule lasted for
eleven years it came to an end after the killing of Koitalel arap Samoei in 1905 (Orkoiyot- a
foreseer who would be consulted by the community before engaging in any war). There was a
strong dissatisfaction among the Nandi over the loss of their land. From the foregoing it is
clear that their grazing land (kaptich) which was not occupied and also a large part of the land
they occupied were alienated by the colonial government. This left the Nandi in total
economic devastation (2015:28). The force used and the consequences on the Nandi were so
server that a number of Nandi opted to move to other regions. Sang points out that Nandi
eviction led to deep distrust of Europeans and many opted to move to new regions rather than
submit and live in Nandi reserve.
Many Nandi dispersed to Kipsigis, Tugen, Mount Elgon, Nyanza and Uganda (Ibid:
29). Traces of this early dispersal are found among the Tugen of South Baringo, a group also
known as Lembus. Majority of them trace their origin to Nandi and some retained contacts
with their relatives in Nandi to date. This was not the end of land alienation in Nandi reserve,
Kaimosi and Kipkarren areas occupied by the Nandi were alienated after the First World War
(Leo, 1984:40). Despite the fact that Nandi reserve boundaries had been defined, the reserve
was further reduced. Ellis points out that it is not generally noted that the Nandi lost more
land to European settlement than many other Kenyan people (Ellis, 1976:555). An excision
of a further 180 square kilometres of supposedly guaranteed Nandi land occurred (Youe,
1988:400).
In 1920 the then Nandi District Commissioner C.S Hemsted attempted to justify the
alienation of Nandi land by reporting that “the alienated land from the reserve was not
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Nandi now occupy mostly Bukwo district in Uganda.
Movement of Nandi to Sebei (Kapchorua district) in Uganda
The Sebei culture and language is closely related to that of the Nandi. The movement of
Nandi squatters to Uganda started from the 1930s as indicated by the reports written by
colonial administrators. On 25/6/1937 police Superintendent in charge of Eldoret informed
the Nandi District Commissioner that “... he had received information that several more
families of Nandi intend to go to Sebei and settle there.” He also expressed his fear that stock
theft would be rampant. (KNA/DC/KAPT/1/1/53, Nandi Movement 1936-59). This indicates
that the movement of Nandi to Sebei in Uganda had started after the onslaught on squatter
stock in western Kenya highlands started in 1933.The Nandi had not stopped their tradition of
raiding for cattle from neighbouring communities thus the fear that stock theft would be
rampant in Sebei.
The numbers of Nandi who moved to Uganda was high as indicated by the letter written
by the District Commissioner Eldoret to the Colonial Secretary on 30/ 8/1937 informing him
of the “serious state of affairs caused by the emigration of Nandi from the colony to the Sebei
area in Bagishu district of Uganda. He also indicated that movement of squatters across the
Kenya Uganda border was difficult to stop. On 30/12/1937 the Colonial Secretary wrote to the
District Commissioners of Eldoret and Kitale instructing them to report to the District
Commissioner Uganda any other movement across the boundary (Ibid).From the foregoing it
is clear that Nandi squatters started moving in large numbers to Uganda in the 1930s when it
became compulsory for them to reduce their stock in the white highlands. It is not clear why
they chose Uganda, it is possible that there were prior links with the Sebei or there were some
Sebei who worked in the White highlands and invited the Nandi to their home when the
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Movement of the Nandi to Pokot
Nandi squatters from Uasin Gishu and Trans Nzoia also moved in large numbers to Pokot.
Nagulu points out that in the 1930s and 1940s; there was an infiltration of newcomers chiefly
the Sabaot, Nandi and Bukusu in Pokot district. She indicates that, the only condition for their
acceptance was a payment of 15 cattle per tax payer to the colonial government and adoption
of Pokot customs. The fact that these immigrants were willing to part with 15 cattle to be
allowed to settle in Pokot, indicates the high number of livestock squatters kept in settler
farms. It is estimated that there were over 100 Nandi in Mnagei location in Pokot District by
1947 (Nangulu, 2009: 42).
More Nandi moved to Pokot in the 1950s with their cattle. The relationship between
the Pokot and Nandi in Pokot was not smooth. Tension between them went back to the 1930s
and 1940s (Ibid: 42). The killing of two Nandi in December 1947 worsens the relationship
between the two ethnic groups, culminating in an open confrontation in 1955. The colonial
government intervened and evicted a few Nandi who were labelled as trouble makers from
Pokot district in the same year (Ibid). Nandi immigrants were looking for land to settle and
had witnessed Nandi reserve being enclosed by the Nandi who had remained there, in the
process closing them out. In Pokot land was still communally owned, however Nandi
immigrants enclosed large tracts of land and each year, they put a greater area was cultivated.
The Pokot were also realizing that they had given away their best agricultural land (Ibid). Oral
sources indicate that there were cattle raids between the two communities. Most of the Nandi
Journal of African Interdisciplinary Studies (JAIS): ISSN 2523-6725 (online)
October 2018 Vol 2, No. 10
who settled in Pokot were pushed back to Trans Nzoia and Uasin Gishu by the Pokot in the
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Done.
Pokot get KDF
https://nation.africa/kenya/news/ruto-deploys-kdf-soldiers-to-bandit-prone-regions-4122356