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Title: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: RV Pundit on February 02, 2023, 05:42:15 PM
Music to my ears ?t=1qxquZDIdKLjDWVQYG7Z5A&s=19
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: Nowayhaha on February 02, 2023, 06:21:28 PM
They seem to be politicizing it translating too they are not serious.
If they were serious they would have summoned Kenyatta family spokesperson done everything behind the scenes.
This is a tactic to scaremonger the sponsors of Raila rallies who for all practical reasons cant be one person .
I can bet they have not even tabled Uhuru with all tax arreas .
This is but politics and ofcourse Raila will be very happy to be seen as a defender of Uhuru .
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: RV Pundit on February 02, 2023, 06:37:10 PM
Yes nothing concrete but seem like done deal reading the lips of those near power?t=iSOz2uyNoApXfNf1mmfOyw&s=19
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: RV Pundit on February 02, 2023, 06:41:24 PM
It's appears Azimio thugs got the kra love letters hence helter-skelter skelter schemes to cause chaos ?t=CnWVL4jBIahPGUalXUSz-Q&s=19
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: Nowayhaha on February 02, 2023, 07:00:39 PM

Its can be used as a tool to deter Raila type of politics . The Murathes et all will run away from Raila eventually but Raila will still continue with his politics to destabilize the government yes money plays big factor in mobilizing people but Raila supporters are fanatical .

It's appears Azimio thugs got the kra love letters hence helter-skelter skelter schemes to cause chaos ?t=CnWVL4jBIahPGUalXUSz-Q&s=19
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: Georgesoros on February 02, 2023, 07:01:29 PM
CRAP.
Lead by example. Show your audit before such shenanigans.
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: Georgesoros on February 02, 2023, 07:04:23 PM
They seem to be politicizing it translating too they are not serious.
If they were serious they would have summoned Kenyatta family spokesperson done everything behind the scenes.
This is a tactic to scaremonger the sponsors of Raila rallies who for all practical reasons cant be one person .
I can bet they have not even tabled Uhuru with all tax arreas .
This is but politics and ofcourse Raila will be very happy to be seen as a defender of Uhuru .

Let Gachaguas throw the first stone if not guilty. Show the audit. Otherwise this is all politics that does not help the country.
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: RV Pundit on February 02, 2023, 07:17:33 PM
Look like it's happening ?t=vXLPEiLDedcP6u_VikQL9g&s=19
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: RV Pundit on February 02, 2023, 07:19:32 PM
CRAP.
Lead by example. Show your audit before such shenanigans.
Ruto is president and runs kra...wewe endelea kulia but uhuru must must pay taxes.Uhuru had 5yrs to conduct audit, lifestyle and name it on Ruto.lia lia sana.Democracy is like that. It's volleyball. RUTO IS GOING TO SERVE KENYATTAS HEAVY BALLS FOR 10YRS
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: KenyanPlato on February 02, 2023, 07:26:42 PM
Look like it's happening ?t=vXLPEiLDedcP6u_VikQL9g&s=19

lol. this going to be very entertaining 5 years. you guys are just daft and daft. actually  this good for the nation. I won't be surprised if there is war in kenya with 3 years
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: Georgesoros on February 02, 2023, 07:33:10 PM
I actually thought Ruto wouldn't bend this low, but I was wrong.
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: KenyanPlato on February 02, 2023, 07:35:29 PM
I actually thought Ruto wouldn't bend this low, but I was wrong.

kalenjins are very vengeful. they bottle their anger and then unleash it. Right now kalenjins are mad mad. they want uhuru's blood. they won't stop until they see it flowing on the streets. the problem is that everyone even tugeges is seeing how unhinged they are

kalenjin practice Toxic masculinity. it is what drives them. it is their only tool in the box. violence is the hammer
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: RV Pundit on February 02, 2023, 07:35:37 PM
Mama ngina pia ?t=Zl33j9KACxnFhK7hPcU-YQ&s=19
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: KenyanPlato on February 02, 2023, 07:38:38 PM
Mama ngina pia ?t=Zl33j9KACxnFhK7hPcU-YQ&s=19

this how nations traditions fail. now everyone is fair game and it will be hard for ruto to regain any level of dignity. someone is clearly sabotaging ruto from within
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: RV Pundit on February 02, 2023, 07:42:51 PM
I actually thought Ruto wouldn't bend this low, but I was wrong.

kalenjins are very vengeful. they bottle their anger and then unleash it. Right now kalenjins are mad mad. they want uhuru's blood. they won't stop until they see it flowing on the streets. the problem is that everyone even tugeges is seeing how unhinged they are

kalenjin practice Toxic masculinity. it is what drives them. it is their only tool in the box. violence is the hammer
Ruto has been nice to kenyatta..turn the other cheek for 5yrs..he kicked out 35,000 kipisigis...Ruto is now looking for land for them....did many evil things..Ruto was so magnanimous he appointed him peace envoy and allowed him to fly Airforce 1..he then sponsor raila violence...then has guts to publicly describe Ruto gov as empty talkshop. Ruto is nice to him because of gema votes..but thankfully Gachagua wants them finished. Wamekwisha sasa.
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: RV Pundit on February 02, 2023, 07:44:04 PM
Mama ngina pia ?t=Zl33j9KACxnFhK7hPcU-YQ&s=19

this how nations traditions fail. now everyone is fair game and it will be hard for ruto to regain any level of dignity. someone is clearly sabotaging ruto from within
Where was tradition the last 5yrs include all rigging attempts. Huyu lazima afinywe.Ruto should let Gachagua do the thing
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: RV Pundit on February 02, 2023, 07:48:19 PM
Look like it's happening ?t=vXLPEiLDedcP6u_VikQL9g&s=19

lol. this going to be very entertaining 5 years. you guys are just daft and daft. actually  this good for the nation. I won't be surprised if there is war in kenya with 3 years
War over what and by who..nobody likes kenyattas..even Azimio are just eating his money but it easy for Ruto to finance raila..anyamaze...kenyatta get lynched.Only kioni will cry for him.Jubilee yake imeenda zamani.Now he exposed.Will Azimio cows defend kenyattas..maybe a few.
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: KenyanPlato on February 02, 2023, 07:49:31 PM
ruto has nothing to offer uhuru. uhuru was appointed by AU. TUTO and uhuru should continue fighting I like it when they are both destroying each other. In kikuyu we say there is no thief and an accomplice. Ruto and ruto have messed up Kenya. their jubilee rule has destroyed kenya completely. they are now engaged in a duel and by the end of it they may both lose power to a nob entity within security services. it is an optimal time to start planning a coup. it is a time like this that most nations fail.

The executive was one institution kenyans were relying on for tranquility. it seems now anarchy and madness has set in so there goes your banana republic. I am happy because this offers us a chance to see the destruction of ruling elite by their own mediocrity
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: RV Pundit on February 02, 2023, 07:52:36 PM
ruto has nothing to offer uhuru. uhuru was appointed by AU. TUTO and uhuru should continue fighting I like it when they are both destroying each other. In kikuyu we say there is no thief and an accomplice. Ruto and ruto have messed up Kenya. their jubilee rule has destroyed kenya completely. they are now engaged in a duel and by the end of it they may both lose power to a nob entity within security services. it is an optimal time to start planning a coup. it is a time like this that most nations fail.

The executive was one institution kenyans were relying on for tranquility. it seems now anarchy and madness has set in so there goes your banana republic. I am happy because this offers us a chance to see the destruction of ruling elite by their own mediocrity
Eti coup..you think Ruto intelligence imelala..you'll be whisked to jail same day. Ufool was appointed by Ruto.He refused appointment but later accepted. He should sober up..and accept bankruptcy..or run to exile.
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: RV Pundit on February 02, 2023, 07:55:17 PM
Uhuru could not beat Ruto with gov machinery..he is hopeless now.My advice...don't resist..go to Maasai mara..or better Swiss alps...resign as Azimio chair..retire from politics. Gachagua want you political dead so he can rise in mt kenya..Ruto see you as the main threat nationally because of your money. YOURE BIG TARGET.You money is big threat to gov.You will be finished because its imperative. Raila and kalonzo are safe...they are not a threat to anyone..empty vessels
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: Fairandbalanced on February 02, 2023, 08:11:28 PM
Raila the enigma causing these idiots sleepless nights. Raila is financed internationally, going after Uhuru is not going to help the idiots. For my I see five yrs of the worst presidency in Kenyan history, worse that Moi. They are all talk but nothing to show for it, in five yrs, Kenyans will be throwing mud and rocks at them.
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: RV Pundit on February 02, 2023, 08:13:48 PM
Stupid kenyattas can't be helped ?t=5Wq7hlZ5Gll9BtKX0HMjyg&s=19
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: RV Pundit on February 02, 2023, 08:17:37 PM
Raila the enigma causing these idiots sleepless nights. Raila is financed internationally, going after Uhuru is not going to help the idiots. For my I see five yrs of the worst presidency in Kenyan history, worse that Moi. They are all talk but nothing to show for it, in five yrs, Kenyans will be throwing mud and rocks at them.
How can idiot who has never won any election he and his father run since 1966 become a threat to anyone. Kenyatta with their billions are a threat.Nobody serious is getting distracted by Raila.kenyatta ndio adui.Ruto intend to neutralise all threats so that even if he fails to deliver..he still win.Let kenyatta put their money on the line and fight...the gok for once.With moi..they choose to silently support it..kibaki the same..finally wameshikwa..Gachagua knows them inside out..Ruto knows the mois inside out.Dynasties now busy calling their Pandora banks to prepare things abroad.They have never been in this situation...hostile gov after them.This is what we prayed will  happen...I hope they keep fighting
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: RV Pundit on February 02, 2023, 09:12:54 PM
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Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: RV Pundit on February 02, 2023, 09:13:31 PM
Look like the Kenyatta will soon get six NYS officers
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: Nowayhaha on February 02, 2023, 09:24:55 PM
In all honesty this looks like politics to scaremonger Raila sponsors and leave Raila butt naked . Will it work , yes it will work because All those side kicks of Uhuru stole so much in the last 5 years and they thought they could use Uhuru and Raila for cover. Now KK is pretending to aim at Uhuru who I believe already negotiated his exit long time ago and was even blessed with an envoy job.
As a tactic it will work but as a strategy to tame Raila , no it wont work . Raila needs financing from his Governors and ODM and he will continue with his politics . Raila just need to show up in Kibera , Mathare , Tononoka etc and his followers as usual will always come to his meetings . Railas end goal is have a say on IEBC and create room for a Referendum .
Ruto just needs to look at Railas end goal and start working from there . It doesnt help when Politicians feom Rift Valley are the ones shouting loudest for Uhuru to be destroyed they should focus on Moi and Gachagua focus on Uhuru . Ruto should focus on Economy and having youths get  employment .
Its fair game for Uhuru and Gachagua , Gachagua just got his Tax money back and now wants to take Uhurus Tax Money . Not only doesnt it sound weird but its just very funny . Politics itambae . RV politicians focus on Uhuru might backfire , an Uhuru defender from My Kenya might rise up to be a Kingpin who might finish Gachagua.
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: sema on February 03, 2023, 02:29:40 AM
Has uhuru's security really been withdrawn? That part I disagree with (all former presidents should have security for life) even Moi's security was not withdrawn.

Also, I am not hearing about the Moi's wealth here. They seem to have all gone very quiet. What's going on with them?

They will be no tears for uhuru kenyatta after he impoverished the country.  Kenyans will cheer the downfall of the kenyatta's and Moi's because everyone knows they've been stealing since 1963.  I'm sure ruto and gachagua will steal theirs, but hopefully, not at the total expense of the country.
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: Wa Njambi on February 03, 2023, 03:03:38 AM
I said this here and elsewhere. All these few big tax defaulters, negotiate a deal, perhaps even 20% and start on a clean slate. If they don't do this, it will become a public agenda and out of Ruto's hands...other hustler activists will pick this issue up. It is a sensitive and legitimate issue that should be settled in a boardroom. Negotiate a settlement with KRA and start clean. To start an argument with Ruto in public rallies and funeral, and let Raila drive the narrative is not "Business smart", and that's put politely...it is heedless about their Business Empires, especially Land.

Music to my ears ?t=1qxquZDIdKLjDWVQYG7Z5A&s=19
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: kwesta on February 03, 2023, 03:21:36 AM
It was petty for Uhuru to publicly berate H.E President Ruto and say he is all talk and no action.
Ruto has been magnanimous enough on Uhuru, but as usual, he miscalculated.
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: patel on February 03, 2023, 05:24:52 AM
Kenyatta criminal enterprise pocket 6 billions from Telkmo sale.
They should puke that money.
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: Fairandbalanced on February 03, 2023, 05:31:50 AM
What happened to letting constitutional institutions do their job? Uhuru is right, these two are all talk and nothing new to offer Kenyans. Its another 5yr wasted opportunity for Kenyans and I hope Raila keeps up the pressure.
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: RV Pundit on February 03, 2023, 06:36:07 AM
It was petty for Uhuru to publicly berate H.E President Ruto and say he is all talk and no action.
Ruto has been magnanimous enough on Uhuru, but as usual, he miscalculated.
precisely they should be cut to size...Ruto has a decade to finish them
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: RV Pundit on February 03, 2023, 06:36:41 AM
What happened to letting constitutional institutions do their job? Uhuru is right, these two are all talk and nothing new to offer Kenyans. Its another 5yr wasted opportunity for Kenyans and I hope Raila keeps up the pressure.
10yrs plus
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: RV Pundit on February 03, 2023, 06:50:50 AM
In all honesty this looks like politics to scaremonger Raila sponsors and leave Raila butt naked . Will it work , yes it will work because All those side kicks of Uhuru stole so much in the last 5 years and they thought they could use Uhuru and Raila for cover. Now KK is pretending to aim at Uhuru who I believe already negotiated his exit long time ago and was even blessed with an envoy job.
As a tactic it will work but as a strategy to tame Raila , no it wont work . Raila needs financing from his Governors and ODM and he will continue with his politics . Raila just need to show up in Kibera , Mathare , Tononoka etc and his followers as usual will always come to his meetings . Railas end goal is have a say on IEBC and create room for a Referendum .
Ruto just needs to look at Railas end goal and start working from there . It doesnt help when Politicians feom Rift Valley are the ones shouting loudest for Uhuru to be destroyed they should focus on Moi and Gachagua focus on Uhuru . Ruto should focus on Economy and having youths get  employment .
Its fair game for Uhuru and Gachagua , Gachagua just got his Tax money back and now wants to take Uhurus Tax Money . Not only doesnt it sound weird but its just very funny . Politics itambae . RV politicians focus on Uhuru might backfire , an Uhuru defender from My Kenya might rise up to be a Kingpin who might finish Gachagua.

Who will rise to beat Gachagua..I don't see any...Gachagua plays extremely rough.. Ruto is too sophisticated for kenyattas..in short our prayers have been answered...the end of kenyattas and mois is upon us...you can cry for them daily...nobody in Kenya cares that much as economic pain bites.
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: RV Pundit on February 03, 2023, 06:57:05 AM
Has uhuru's security really been withdrawn? That part I disagree with (all former presidents should have security for life) even Moi's security was not withdrawn.

Also, I am not hearing about the Moi's wealth here. They seem to have all gone very quiet. What's going on with them?

They will be no tears for uhuru kenyatta after he impoverished the country.  Kenyans will cheer the downfall of the kenyatta's and Moi's because everyone knows they've been stealing since 1963.  I'm sure ruto and gachagua will steal theirs, but hopefully, not at the total expense of the country.
He entitled to six officers.Ruto has been very nice to him after what he did...including trying to rig him out.Yes nobody should cry.Mois knows their time to cry has come.Gideon has gone silent...let's see if he will join kenyattas. Raila has nothing much to lose....but he also knows when Ruto start on him...he will cry too.
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: RV Pundit on February 03, 2023, 07:03:58 AM
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Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: RV Pundit on February 03, 2023, 07:08:56 AM
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Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: Nowayhaha on February 03, 2023, 10:58:23 AM
Ive always said Rutos waterloo is Kalenjins like you.
However Ruto is a seasoned politician and will never take a route which might lead him to lose.
As for Kenyatta and their wealth let KK government go after him but  if they are to go after him with Kalenjins like Chergei and Cheruyot then expect and different outcome. The best way wpuld have been behind the doors without turning it to be political. They are makimg it to be political for a reason.
Back in 2002 when Kiraitu and Murungaru tried to go after Moi in as mjch as it was justified it backfired seriously Raila pretended ro be Moi saviour and Ruto came out as a strong Moi defender threatening seceding from Kenya , Outcome is even though Kalenjins had voted foe Uhuru they switched base and started supporting Raila and Ruto . History is bound to repeat itself , luckily Ruto is a wise and seasoned politician . I can bet a better approach wjll be taken where Kenyatta family will pay their dues without it being taken advantage of.





Has uhuru's security really been withdrawn? That part I disagree with (all former presidents should have security for life) even Moi's security was not withdrawn.

Also, I am not hearing about the Moi's wealth here. They seem to have all gone very quiet. What's going on with them?

They will be no tears for uhuru kenyatta after he impoverished the country.  Kenyans will cheer the downfall of the kenyatta's and Moi's because everyone knows they've been stealing since 1963.  I'm sure ruto and gachagua will steal theirs, but hopefully, not at the total expense of the country.
He entitled to six officers.Ruto has been very nice to him after what he did...including trying to rig him out.Yes nobody should cry.Mois knows their time to cry has come.Gideon has gone silent...let's see if he will join kenyattas. Raila has nothing much to lose....but he also knows when Ruto start on him...he will cry too.
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: RV Pundit on February 03, 2023, 11:13:21 AM
Ive always said Rutos waterloo is Kalenjins like you.
However Ruto is a seasoned politician and will never take a route which might lead him to lose.
As for Kenyatta and their wealth let KK government go after him but  if they are to go after him with Kalenjins like Chergei and Cheruyot then expect and different outcome. The best way wpuld have been behind the doors without turning it to be political. They are makimg it to be political for a reason.
Back in 2002 when Kiraitu and Murungaru tried to go after Moi in as mjch as it was justified it backfired seriously Raila pretended ro be Moi saviour and Ruto came out as a strong Moi defender threatening seceding from Kenya , Outcome is even though Kalenjins had voted foe Uhuru they switched base and started supporting Raila and Ruto . History is bound to repeat itself , luckily Ruto is a wise and seasoned politician . I can bet a better approach wjll be taken where Kenyatta family will pay their dues without it being taken advantage of.





Has uhuru's security really been withdrawn? That part I disagree with (all former presidents should have security for life) even Moi's security was not withdrawn.

Also, I am not hearing about the Moi's wealth here. They seem to have all gone very quiet. What's going on with them?

They will be no tears for uhuru kenyatta after he impoverished the country.  Kenyans will cheer the downfall of the kenyatta's and Moi's because everyone knows they've been stealing since 1963.  I'm sure ruto and gachagua will steal theirs, but hopefully, not at the total expense of the country.
He entitled to six officers.Ruto has been very nice to him after what he did...including trying to rig him out.Yes nobody should cry.Mois knows their time to cry has come.Gideon has gone silent...let's see if he will join kenyattas. Raila has nothing much to lose....but he also knows when Ruto start on him...he will cry too.
Vitisho baridi peleka urusi.kibaki mistake was to go for kalenjin instead of laser focusing on mois.The only thing kalenjin told kibaki was moi was not to be jailed or held criminally liable. Uhuru similarly has jail free card. What Ruto will not do is victimise kikuyus for uhuru crimes.kenyattaa will pay.Gachagua and group want him dead.If shit hit the fan...Ruto will still win without a single kikuyu vote.Moi did it without almost all major tribes.Gachagua knows better and will keep the bargain....otherwise there are tribes dying to replaces GEMA in Ruto gov.If kikuyus want to become human shield around kenyattas blame yourselves. This is war against kenyattas and Mois for state capture and crony capital.A war that must be fought. Its not war against communities.Kenyattas will be spared kamiti...remember kibaki threw Ruto to kamiti for a week.Kenyattas have taken Ruto through he'll in five years despite Ruto working for him for years.Gachagua helped uhuru for years.He tried to bankrupt both..put Gachagua in jail.Why fool should Uhuru go scot-free....kenyattas should be bankrupted...kibichos jailed.Then soon the better..so Ruto can move on to other things. Ruto put these things on manifesto...he must deliver state capture inquiry. He has few months to quickly get it done....then end this ASAP so it doesn't become a witchhunt.The good thing many right thinking kikuyus are leading this war against kenyattas...only kioni and nowayaha remain on the losing end
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: Nowayhaha on February 03, 2023, 11:19:06 AM

Take time and reread my post . I will not go on a meandering spree with you . Im very precise , pragmaric and real. Im not Robina who you used to ho round in circles saying nothing.

Ive always said Rutos waterloo is Kalenjins like you.
However Ruto is a seasoned politician and will never take a route which might lead him to lose.
As for Kenyatta and their wealth let KK government go after him but  if they are to go after him with Kalenjins like Chergei and Cheruyot then expect and different outcome. The best way wpuld have been behind the doors without turning it to be political. They are makimg it to be political for a reason.
Back in 2002 when Kiraitu and Murungaru tried to go after Moi in as mjch as it was justified it backfired seriously Raila pretended ro be Moi saviour and Ruto came out as a strong Moi defender threatening seceding from Kenya , Outcome is even though Kalenjins had voted foe Uhuru they switched base and started supporting Raila and Ruto . History is bound to repeat itself , luckily Ruto is a wise and seasoned politician . I can bet a better approach wjll be taken where Kenyatta family will pay their dues without it being taken advantage of.





Has uhuru's security really been withdrawn? That part I disagree with (all former presidents should have security for life) even Moi's security was not withdrawn.

Also, I am not hearing about the Moi's wealth here. They seem to have all gone very quiet. What's going on with them?

They will be no tears for uhuru kenyatta after he impoverished the country.  Kenyans will cheer the downfall of the kenyatta's and Moi's because everyone knows they've been stealing since 1963.  I'm sure ruto and gachagua will steal theirs, but hopefully, not at the total expense of the country.
He entitled to six officers.Ruto has been very nice to him after what he did...including trying to rig him out.Yes nobody should cry.Mois knows their time to cry has come.Gideon has gone silent...let's see if he will join kenyattas. Raila has nothing much to lose....but he also knows when Ruto start on him...he will cry too.
Vitisho baridi peleka urusi.kibaki mistake was to go for kalenjin instead of laser focusing on mois.The only thing kalenjin told kibaki was moi was not to be jailed or held criminally liable. Uhuru similarly has jail free card. What Ruto will not do is victimise kikuyus for uhuru crimes.kenyattaa will pay.Gachagua and group want him dead.If shit hit the fan...Ruto will still win without a single kikuyu vote.Moi did it without almost all major tribes.Gachagua knows better and will keep the bargain....otherwise there are tribes dying to replaces GEMA in Ruto gov.If kikuyus want to become human shield around kenyattas blame yourselves. This is war against kenyattas and Mois for state capture and crony capital.A war that must be fought. Its not war against communities.Kenyattas will be spared kamiti...remember kibaki threw Ruto to kamiti for a week.Kenyattas have taken Ruto through he'll in five years despite Ruto working for him for years.Gachagua helped uhuru for years.He tried to bankrupt both..put Gachagua in jail.Why fool should Uhuru go scot-free....
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: RV Pundit on February 03, 2023, 11:23:38 AM

Take time and reread my post . I will not go on a meandering spree with you . Im very precise , pragmaric and real. Im not Robina who you used to ho round in circles saying nothing.

Ive always said Rutos waterloo is Kalenjins like you.
However Ruto is a seasoned politician and will never take a route which might lead him to lose.
As for Kenyatta and their wealth let KK government go after him but  if they are to go after him with Kalenjins like Chergei and Cheruyot then expect and different outcome. The best way wpuld have been behind the doors without turning it to be political. They are makimg it to be political for a reason.
Back in 2002 when Kiraitu and Murungaru tried to go after Moi in as mjch as it was justified it backfired seriously Raila pretended ro be Moi saviour and Ruto came out as a strong Moi defender threatening seceding from Kenya , Outcome is even though Kalenjins had voted foe Uhuru they switched base and started supporting Raila and Ruto . History is bound to repeat itself , luckily Ruto is a wise and seasoned politician . I can bet a better approach wjll be taken where Kenyatta family will pay their dues without it being taken advantage of.





Has uhuru's security really been withdrawn? That part I disagree with (all former presidents should have security for life) even Moi's security was not withdrawn.

Also, I am not hearing about the Moi's wealth here. They seem to have all gone very quiet. What's going on with them?

They will be no tears for uhuru kenyatta after he impoverished the country.  Kenyans will cheer the downfall of the kenyatta's and Moi's because everyone knows they've been stealing since 1963.  I'm sure ruto and gachagua will steal theirs, but hopefully, not at the total expense of the country.
He entitled to six officers.Ruto has been very nice to him after what he did...including trying to rig him out.Yes nobody should cry.Mois knows their time to cry has come.Gideon has gone silent...let's see if he will join kenyattas. Raila has nothing much to lose....but he also knows when Ruto start on him...he will cry too.
Vitisho baridi peleka urusi.kibaki mistake was to go for kalenjin instead of laser focusing on mois.The only thing kalenjin told kibaki was moi was not to be jailed or held criminally liable. Uhuru similarly has jail free card. What Ruto will not do is victimise kikuyus for uhuru crimes.kenyattaa will pay.Gachagua and group want him dead.If shit hit the fan...Ruto will still win without a single kikuyu vote.Moi did it without almost all major tribes.Gachagua knows better and will keep the bargain....otherwise there are tribes dying to replaces GEMA in Ruto gov.If kikuyus want to become human shield around kenyattas blame yourselves. This is war against kenyattas and Mois for state capture and crony capital.A war that must be fought. Its not war against communities.Kenyattas will be spared kamiti...remember kibaki threw Ruto to kamiti for a week.Kenyattas have taken Ruto through he'll in five years despite Ruto working for him for years.Gachagua helped uhuru for years.He tried to bankrupt both..put Gachagua in jail.Why fool should Uhuru go scot-free....
All I see is attempts to tribalize a serious issues..very desperate foolish act.People who want kenyattas are many...but you see me, cheragei and Cheruiyot. You don't see ndii ,Gachagua, all mt kenya senators, ndidi and ichungwa.I know you're still having moi nightmares of 90s...that phase is over.We are laser focused on kenyattas and mois...
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: RV Pundit on February 03, 2023, 11:29:13 AM
Ruto will become national hero if he finish the two families that combined have looted kenya for 50yrs..kibaki 10yrs was small break...and are trillionaires. We cannot allow foolish tribalist to shield them when we have them all lined up in single row.We have to finish them now or never.Make them bankrupt.Ruto was elected because he promised to finish dynasties..not befriend them.Its good uhuru and his brother are still drinking and not thinking soberly...now they've woken Ruto from slumber.
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on February 03, 2023, 02:38:32 PM
Well the method Ruto uses to deal with Kenyattas is very important like I said earlier most important thing deal with high cost of living that he promised hustlers this is lower cost of foods fuel transport and other necessities once he has done this we don't mind him going for Kenyatta
But the problem he could create is going for them prematurely without fixing the country this will backfire Kenyatta has enough  money and clout locally and internationally to cause major problems for the country. Uhuru needs to be dealt with when everyone is on board.
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: Nowayhaha on February 03, 2023, 02:49:03 PM

Please educate RVpundit , he has ujuaji mob .

Well the method Ruto uses to deal with Kenyattas is very important like I said earlier most important thing deal with high cost of living that he promised hustlers this is lower cost of foods fuel transport and other necessities once he has done this we don't mind him going for Kenyatta
But the problem he could create is going for them prematurely without fixing the country this will backfire Kenyatta has enough  money and clout locally and internationally to cause major problems for the country. Uhuru needs to be dealt with when everyone is on board.
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: RV Pundit on February 03, 2023, 03:04:08 PM
Well the method Ruto uses to deal with Kenyattas is very important like I said earlier most important thing deal with high cost of living that he promised hustlers this is lower cost of foods fuel transport and other necessities once he has done this we don't mind him going for Kenyatta
But the problem he could create is going for them prematurely without fixing the country this will backfire Kenyatta has enough  money and clout locally and internationally to cause major problems for the country. Uhuru needs to be dealt with when everyone is on board.
Nonsense. Everyone knows uhuru is major cause of economic mess.Ruto by dealing with Kenyattas is smart politics...because we want to see people see those responsible take the blame.But long he delay the more people will not distinguish btw Ruto and Uhuru. Any idiot who is sympathetic to moi or Kenyattas is takataka to my eyes and ears.I never had anytime for Moi...neither do I have for kenyattas.kumpavu.Kenyattas were rejected by Kenyans and Ruto has the political will to finish them off...with kinotis ,matiangi and kibicho.The more he delay the more Kenyatta reinvent himself and harder it is to deal with them.You strike the iron when it's hot.
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: RV Pundit on February 03, 2023, 03:05:52 PM

Please educate RVpundit , he has ujuaji mob .

Well the method Ruto uses to deal with Kenyattas is very important like I said earlier most important thing deal with high cost of living that he promised hustlers this is lower cost of foods fuel transport and other necessities once he has done this we don't mind him going for Kenyatta
But the problem he could create is going for them prematurely without fixing the country this will backfire Kenyatta has enough  money and clout locally and internationally to cause major problems for the country. Uhuru needs to be dealt with when everyone is on board.
you and your twin fools can never teach me nothing..low iq morons
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on February 03, 2023, 05:53:54 PM
Punda Pundit you possibly feel very powerful when you insult netters that don't agree with you.
unfortunately You are a Nobody in the greater equation of things,
Punguza pombe mchana,and sober up, we know Kenya more than you by far,
and yes if we go against kenyatta  helter skelter he will scuttle us Mbig time, Kenyattas have an international solid network their business interest are and have always been intertwined with the west, for decades they are not the Mois you try to compare them with in your single celled brain, kenyattas are x40 what Mois are, they can easily activate an international coalition against a novice president like Ruto,
Why do you think US,EU, France are behind him in Congo?
kijana tulia you are a small boy to me kwa hii maneno.
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: RV Pundit on February 03, 2023, 07:04:38 PM
Punda Pundit you possibly feel very powerful when you insult netters that don't agree with you.
unfortunately You are a Nobody in the greater equation of things,
Punguza pombe mchana,and sober up, we know Kenya more than you by far,
and yes if we go against kenyatta  helter skelter he will scuttle us Mbig time, Kenyattas have an international solid network their business interest are and have always been intertwined with the west, for decades they are not the Mois you try to compare them with in your single celled brain, kenyattas are x40 what Mois are, they can easily activate an international coalition against a novice president like Ruto,
Why do you think US,EU, France are behind him in Congo?
kijana tulia you are a small boy to me kwa hii maneno.
ubwa take your nonsense elsewhere takataka.kenyatta is nothing. MOI after 24yrs in power had messed up military and kalenjins idiots like you were ready to die for him.kenyatta has no local or international support. Even in Gatundu South he is wanted dead or alive.You see zero impact today.Only few confused Azimio folks care..internationally he is nobody..locally nobody.He is well done.Ruto should pit him out of his misery before he gets fools like you to empathise with him
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: RV Pundit on February 03, 2023, 07:12:24 PM
This is moment..Mois and kenyattas are vulnerable..zero local  or international support. Ruto is new Western world darling..and still is on honeymoon with Kenyans.It has to be done now. So far I see no serious pushback..apart from kionis.Now it's time to finish the job..before it's too late.
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: RV Pundit on February 03, 2023, 07:28:07 PM
Njuri I told you first Sunday after moi lost power I told him to his face kweera huko...he was bitter like uhuru..ranting about narc as bad wind or wave..ohoo kalenjin if they don't unite will scatter like castor seeds.I couldn't take it anymore. I shouted kwenda huko..someone else also told him potelea mbali..he cut his speech short and his security pick the guy who shouted last ..beat him and dropped him on the road.
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: Georgesoros on February 03, 2023, 08:35:25 PM
Pundit will always see things his way. As long as it is from the person he likes, all will be well. Objectivity is out the window.
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: RV Pundit on February 03, 2023, 08:54:45 PM
Pundit will always see things his way. As long as it is from the person he likes, all will be well. Objectivity is out the window.
I cannot be objective in some stuff...no one can be..at least I declare my support openly. I don't pretend like you.There is no objectivity in politics or love.
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: patel on February 03, 2023, 11:40:41 PM
Agreed this is the best time for Ruto to move in and finish dynasty thieves. Hakuna wait for right time. Hopefully we will get to know the truth about Eurobond and crop dusters that uhuru bought but were never delivered. Ya mungu si machache.
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: RV Pundit on February 04, 2023, 08:18:51 AM
I expect to see Kenyatta family's Heritage Insurance made to pay 4.1B kshs they insured the Aror and Kimwerer dams
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/economy/stanchart-heritage-to-pay-sh7-8bn-for-arror-dam-scandal-3715560
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: RV Pundit on February 04, 2023, 08:31:28 AM
There has never been a better time. Uhuru spoke after Ruto had almost forgotten the pending business of fixing him. Gideon Moi is probably preparing to exile himself - he is such a coward.
Agreed this is the best time for Ruto to move in and finish dynasty thieves. Hakuna wait for right time. Hopefully we will get to know the truth about Eurobond and crop dusters that uhuru bought but were never delivered. Ya mungu si machache.
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: Nowayhaha on February 04, 2023, 08:59:59 AM
Enlighten us the money is supposed to be paid to  Kenyan government or the Italian firm ?

I expect to see Kenyatta family's Heritage Insurance made to pay 4.1B kshs they insured the Aror and Kimwerer dams
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/economy/stanchart-heritage-to-pay-sh7-8bn-for-arror-dam-scandal-3715560
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: RV Pundit on February 04, 2023, 09:18:10 AM
To Kenya gov. Read the link

The State has demanded for a mega payment of Sh. 7.7 billion from Standard Chartered Bank and Heritage Insurance over the Arror Dam scandal.

They pay kenya gov - kenya gov pay the Italian banks.

Enlighten us the money is supposed to be paid to  Kenyan government or the Italian firm ?
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: gout on February 04, 2023, 10:41:40 AM
The burdizzos need to tighten on ufool and lackeys. The middle finger at Magoha matanga was crossing the rubicon.

Will Hasla go back in history and repeat the mistakes on a grandier scale?

Like senile Jomo learnt by not purging mzungu with the mutinies; Moi same with not purging the njonjos; kibaki with not dealing with moi eventually leading us to 2007 PEV; or he will join ufool's theatre of absurdity, resuscitating his nemesis.   
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: RV Pundit on February 04, 2023, 10:51:27 AM
Ruto should do angola do Santos on kenyatta and mois..so they never rise again
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: RV Pundit on February 04, 2023, 10:53:07 AM
The burdizzos need to tighten on ufool and lackeys. The middle finger at Magoha matanga was crossing the rubicon.

Will Hasla go back in history and repeat the mistakes on a grandier scale?

Like senile Jomo learnt by not purging mzungu with the mutinies; Moi same with not purging the njonjos; kibaki with not dealing with moi eventually leading us to 2007 PEV; or he will join ufool's theatre of absurdity, resuscitating his nemesis.   
Exactly..he must finish them until when they see a microphone they have no comments to say otherwise they are going to use their political capital to cause trouble
Title: Re: Have kenyatta met their Waterloo finally
Post by: gout on February 04, 2023, 11:33:26 AM
Lourenco is in a tougher fight but has been deliberate. With a second term he soldiers on despite having near dead institutions. His successor must have same zeal to build institutions.

Ufool had just started demolition of institutions.

Ruto should do angola do Santos on kenyatta and mois..so they never rise again