He will leave with $2B in military aid which includes Patriot anti-missile batteries.
Meanwhile Putin stuck in Moscow screaming "aggravation"!
And admitting "special operation" has not gone according to plan.
I have no doubt they are going to talk about President Zelenskys notion of a just peace and what that looks like, what are the components of that, and how do we help Ukraine get to that point, Kirby said.
Moscow, however, is not interested in diplomacy right now, Kirby claimed.
The president really believes that as we approach winter, as we enter a new phase in this war, of Mr. Putins aggression, that this is a good time for the two leaders to sit down face to face and talk, Kirby said.
He will leave with $2B in military aid which includes Patriot anti-missile batteries.
Meanwhile Putin stuck in Moscow screaming "aggravation"!
And admitting "special operation" has not gone according to plan.
He will leave with $2B in military aid which includes Patriot anti-missile batteries.
Meanwhile Putin stuck in Moscow screaming "aggravation"!
And admitting "special operation" has not gone according to plan.
...Patriots can only help with defense. Never mind Ukraine is winning bla bla...
As usual @Patel living under a rock. He is the only one on this whole forum who has not read that at this point of humiliation, Russia is playing the "let us destroy civilian infrastructure" card. It is the only irritant left for Russia when a few of them get through and knock out Ukraine power grid. Of course we know the Patriot battery is for defence. It is so successful in Palestine. When did you hear last that a Palestinian missile caused damage in Israel?He will leave with $2B in military aid which includes Patriot anti-missile batteries.
Meanwhile Putin stuck in Moscow screaming "aggravation"!
And admitting "special operation" has not gone according to plan.
$2 billion is a sweet bargain for America to get things done on the cheap. Yet it makes a huge difference on that battlefield. Ukraine can focus on neutralizing Russian missiles ...
Do you know why nobody here questions how William won? There are instances where you weigh and make a pact with the devil if you have to. You must have very low IQ if you never heard the quote "All is fair in love and war". I am getting tired reminding all and sundry that the World Wars and other wars may have begun by a spark but the outcome was determined by the alliances that were made as battles raged. Putin must be a very poor strategist if it is indeed true that he chose to go to war thinking that NATO would idly stand by. Hitler at some point thought he would attack Poland and UK and France despite their turmoil at the time would go for more appeasement. It didn't happen that way. For that miscalculation, Hitler would 5 years later be laying dead in his bunker.
So Mr. Noway, cease faulting NATO. You are looking at the wrong side of the coin. Applaud the leadership that Zelensky has shown. Leadership that made him person of the year. The ability of getting the entire Europe to support his war effort. Time agreed this in 2022 has been a big deal
Despite being nervous, Zelensky gave a fantastic speech.Noway will see nothing in that speech. He makes no pretense, no even hiding as a dye in the wool tribalist. Just a hardcore one. The genes of a private nondescript biological occurrence that took place are ever present in all his arguments. He is a pointee. Half kyuk, half Russian.
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Russias first objective disguised as demilitiration and denazifiation of Ukraine is basically to get back its former Novorussia lands and its people. As of Now they have 4 Provinces . It remains for them to get Kharkhiv and stretch their special operation till Odessa .....
It is good you gave the example of Afghanistan - never been conquered. First the Russians lost, and the Americans lost too just like they lost in Vietnam.
In the 90s, I was a regular visitor to UK and often carried away souvenirs like this t-shirt to the left: (Zoom in to read the details)
(https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/composite-heil-street-fashion1.jpg?strip=all&w=620&h=413&crop=1)
Hitler's dream was to conquer the whole of Europe if not the world and he did come close. Only the British Isles and Russia stood in it way. If @Noway had visited Europe in 1943 when Hitler had met 75% of his conquests/"objectives", he would be shouting Hitler has won. But we all know all those conquests were reversed and he ended up secluded in a bunker of a few square metres in Berlin. A war is not won until the fat lady sings. An apt metaphor. This t-shirt has a good teaching lesson for my grandchildren and a fellow here who thought Putin was going to have lunch in Kyiv in February. :85: Ukraine's objective is sovereignty over Ukraine and all its land. That is how the war will end.
This is what we call Miseducation , Hitler did subdue Poland, France and England his biggest mistake was to start a New Front against Russia .
Now on Zelensky being person of the year , a true NAZI Hitler was named person of the year in 1938. Have you forgotten this or perhaps you dont know your history.
(https://content.time.com/time/magazine/archive/covers/1933/1101330313_400.jpg)Do you know why nobody here questions how William won? There are instances where you weigh and make a pact with the devil if you have to. You must have very low IQ if you never heard the quote "All is fair in love and war". I am getting tired reminding all and sundry that the World Wars and other wars may have begun by a spark but the outcome was determined by the alliances that were made as battles raged. Putin must be a very poor strategist if it is indeed true that he chose to go to war thinking that NATO would idly stand by. Hitler at some point thought he would attack Poland and UK and France despite their turmoil at the time would go for more appeasement. It didn't happen that way. For that miscalculation, Hitler would 5 years later be laying dead in his bunker.
So Mr. Noway, cease faulting NATO. You are looking at the wrong side of the coin. Applaud the leadership that Zelensky has shown. Leadership that made him person of the year. The ability of getting the entire Europe to support his war effort. Time agreed this in 2022 has been a big deal
You won't catch me on my history by being nit-picky like NTV on Duale. Hitler & Stalin had a secret pact named after their foreign ministers of the time where they were happy to partition Poland into Soviet Union & Nazi German control. The history of the World may have remained that way if Britain had not declared war on Germany and remained stubbornly undefeated; Soviet Union would have been happy to abide by The MolotovRibbentrop non-aggression pact that enabled those powers to partition Poland between them and history taken a different turn. What Ukraine did in 2022 could be compared to what Britain resistance did starting 1939 and made Hitler commit War's ultimate big mistakes. Don't say I don't know History. When I wanted to give a comprehensive lesson in History, I gave it before you on this forum. Check out this Link to my post on Veritas blog - seems I was actually addressing you! BTW how is that story of Novorussia going? Do you have Kharkhiv and Odessa under your control yet?......
Russias first objective disguised as demilitiration and denazifiation of Ukraine is basically to get back its former Novorussia lands and its people. As of Now they have 4 Provinces . It remains for them to get Kharkhiv and stretch their special operation till Odessa .....
It is good you gave the example of Afghanistan - never been conquered. First the Russians lost, and the Americans lost too just like they lost in Vietnam.
In the 90s, I was a regular visitor to UK and often carried away souvenirs like this t-shirt to the left: (Zoom in to read the details)
(https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/composite-heil-street-fashion1.jpg?strip=all&w=620&h=413&crop=1)
Hitler's dream was to conquer the whole of Europe if not the world and he did come close. Only the British Isles and Russia stood in it way. If @Noway had visited Europe in 1943 when Hitler had met 75% of his conquests/"objectives", he would be shouting Hitler has won. But we all know all those conquests were reversed and he ended up secluded in a bunker of a few square metres in Berlin. A war is not won until the fat lady sings. An apt metaphor. This t-shirt has a good teaching lesson for my grandchildren and a fellow here who thought Putin was going to have lunch in Kyiv in February. :85: Ukraine's objective is sovereignty over Ukraine and all its land. That is how the war will end.
This is what we call Miseducation , Hitler did subdue Poland, France and England his biggest mistake was to start a New Front against Russia .
Now on Zelensky being person of the year , a true NAZI Hitler was named person of the year in 1938. Have you forgotten this or perhaps you dont know your history.
(https://content.time.com/time/magazine/archive/covers/1933/1101330313_400.jpg)Do you know why nobody here questions how William won? There are instances where you weigh and make a pact with the devil if you have to. You must have very low IQ if you never heard the quote "All is fair in love and war". I am getting tired reminding all and sundry that the World Wars and other wars may have begun by a spark but the outcome was determined by the alliances that were made as battles raged. Putin must be a very poor strategist if it is indeed true that he chose to go to war thinking that NATO would idly stand by. Hitler at some point thought he would attack Poland and UK and France despite their turmoil at the time would go for more appeasement. It didn't happen that way. For that miscalculation, Hitler would 5 years later be laying dead in his bunker.
So Mr. Noway, cease faulting NATO. You are looking at the wrong side of the coin. Applaud the leadership that Zelensky has shown. Leadership that made him person of the year. The ability of getting the entire Europe to support his war effort. Time agreed this in 2022 has been a big deal
Comedian is the clear winner.
How now? 2B loan of items that most will go up in smoke. I guess winning means different thing to different people.
You won't catch me on my history by being nit-picky like NTV on Duale. Hitler & Stalin had a secret pact named after their foreign ministers of the time where they were happy to partition Poland into Soviet Union & Nazi German control. The history of the World may have remained that way if Britain had not declared war on Germany and remained stubbornly undefeated; Soviet Union would have been happy to abide by The MolotovRibbentrop non-aggression pact that enabled those powers to partition Poland between them and history taken a different turn. What Ukraine did in 2022 could be compared to what Britain resistance did starting 1939 and made Hitler commit War's ultimate big mistakes. Don't say I don't know History. When I wanted to give a comprehensive lesson in History, I gave it before you on this forum. Check out this Link to my post on Veritas blog - seems I was actually addressing you! BTW how is that story of Novorussia going? Do you have Kharkhiv and Odessa under your control yet?......
Russias first objective disguised as demilitiration and denazifiation of Ukraine is basically to get back its former Novorussia lands and its people. As of Now they have 4 Provinces . It remains for them to get Kharkhiv and stretch their special operation till Odessa .....
It is good you gave the example of Afghanistan - never been conquered. First the Russians lost, and the Americans lost too just like they lost in Vietnam.
In the 90s, I was a regular visitor to UK and often carried away souvenirs like this t-shirt to the left: (Zoom in to read the details)
(https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/composite-heil-street-fashion1.jpg?strip=all&w=620&h=413&crop=1)
Hitler's dream was to conquer the whole of Europe if not the world and he did come close. Only the British Isles and Russia stood in it way. If @Noway had visited Europe in 1943 when Hitler had met 75% of his conquests/"objectives", he would be shouting Hitler has won. But we all know all those conquests were reversed and he ended up secluded in a bunker of a few square metres in Berlin. A war is not won until the fat lady sings. An apt metaphor. This t-shirt has a good teaching lesson for my grandchildren and a fellow here who thought Putin was going to have lunch in Kyiv in February. :85: Ukraine's objective is sovereignty over Ukraine and all its land. That is how the war will end.
This is what we call Miseducation , Hitler did subdue Poland, France and England his biggest mistake was to start a New Front against Russia .
Now on Zelensky being person of the year , a true NAZI Hitler was named person of the year in 1938. Have you forgotten this or perhaps you dont know your history.
(https://content.time.com/time/magazine/archive/covers/1933/1101330313_400.jpg)Do you know why nobody here questions how William won? There are instances where you weigh and make a pact with the devil if you have to. You must have very low IQ if you never heard the quote "All is fair in love and war". I am getting tired reminding all and sundry that the World Wars and other wars may have begun by a spark but the outcome was determined by the alliances that were made as battles raged. Putin must be a very poor strategist if it is indeed true that he chose to go to war thinking that NATO would idly stand by. Hitler at some point thought he would attack Poland and UK and France despite their turmoil at the time would go for more appeasement. It didn't happen that way. For that miscalculation, Hitler would 5 years later be laying dead in his bunker.
So Mr. Noway, cease faulting NATO. You are looking at the wrong side of the coin. Applaud the leadership that Zelensky has shown. Leadership that made him person of the year. The ability of getting the entire Europe to support his war effort. Time agreed this in 2022 has been a big deal
There are no winners in any war but as you summarized what matters is the objectives being met.
Russias first objective disguised as demilitiration and denazifiation of Ukraine is basically to get back its former Novorussia lands and its people. As of Now they have 4 Provinces . It remains for them to get Kharkhiv and stretch their special operation till Odessa .
The other objective was to initiate a New World Order , That is happening with China and India drifting towards Russia ignoring threats from west and Inflation causing economic woos is West that the Government heads are rolling . 2 have gone already more to follow. The Euro in more than 20 years was trading with its value lower than the dollar . NikubayaTo define a win in war is relative, basically the easiest way would be to say the side that surrenders and puts a signature in paper lost.
Whats the measure you are using to establish what a win is...I even don't tune to CNN, Basically I use Google maps with my arcGIS software and real time videos of the war,to be able to query and understand the current situation on ground. Am well versed in war manenos and remember i told you from start this will be a long war, however had expected Russians to capture Kiev in circa 3 weeks which didn't happen,it seems American intel was responsible in destroying the Russians on that front,since then the Russian army has changed tact from brazen overconfident attacks to more realistic slow but sure incursions but still they use alot of manpower to defeat small Ukrainian soldiers,my take is its taking up to 3 Russiams to Kill 1 Ukrainian soldier
But as you know that doesn't happen nowadays and this an argument that has no ending I won't claim I can end it,so basically back to Russia you would have to use the following parameters to define a win,which of the 2 countries had a stronger military then how are the military of the 2 performing relative to their military capabilities and rankings,if you use that criteria it simple to say Ukraine has up to now defeated Russia unless Russia can force Ukraine into signing a surrender.
Did the taleban/Afghanistan defeat US again this is a relative argument but consensus is of course Taleban/Afghanistan aka the grave yard of empires won, simply because they forced America out of the country even though they never defeated America military.
Despite being nervous, Zelensky gave a fantastic speech.Noway will see nothing in that speech. He makes no pretense, no even hiding as a dye in the wool tribalist. Just a hardcore one. The genes of a private nondescript biological occurrence that took place are ever present in all his arguments. He is a pointee. Half kyuk, half Russian.
Comedian is winning with more than 65% of his population without electricity in middle of winter. He has been forced to issue stay st home orders to stop refugee migration. Poland with more than 4 million Ukrainian refugees cannot take anymore.
Russia is cowardly bombing water and energy - resorting to war crimes - as it loses the war. How is the comedian to blame.Comedian is winning with more than 65% of his population without electricity in middle of winter. He has been forced to issue stay st home orders to stop refugee migration. Poland with more than 4 million Ukrainian refugees cannot take anymore.
Demostrate how Russia is losing the war ?
What is losing a war to you ?
People need to differentiate between battles and war .
Do people win in wars ? No it never happens . After a war finishes there are only survivors of war who have to forge a way forward and learn from the reason and results of war .
The question is will Ukraine survive as a nation as it was in pre Feb 2022 , my opinion is No. Will Western leadership survive political duels as a result of inflation and hard economic times brought about by the war my opinion is No .
The effect of the war will be felt for years to come .
Unilateral World Order is finished , new powers will emerge , Russia will rejuvinate itself in all fields and will become much more stronger that it was pre Feb 2014.Russia is cowardly bombing water and energy - resorting to war crimes - as it loses the war. How is the comedian to blame.Comedian is winning with more than 65% of his population without electricity in middle of winter. He has been forced to issue stay st home orders to stop refugee migration. Poland with more than 4 million Ukrainian refugees cannot take anymore.
Yes wars are lost everyday.
Russia is losing this war everday it cannot beat Ukraine.
Russia is losing it's global respect.
Russia is losing it's superpowerness.
And in a fit it's destroying power and water - acts of war crimes.
As for 2023 and beyond.
Russia oil and gas is now history - the world is moving on minus it.
Oil and gas prices will come down.
Inflation will come down.
The same with Ukrain wheat, sunflowers and cereals - the world is going to move on minus it - now that everyone has re-adjusted.
And Russia will be kept busy with Ukraine for as long as it takes to degrade their war capabilities.
The global economy will boom again soon while Russia will be in war and economic doldrums.
Demostrate how Russia is losing the war ?
What is losing a war to you ?
People need to differentiate between battles and war .
Do people win in wars ? No it never happens . After a war finishes there are only survivors of war who have to forge a way forward and learn from the reason and results of war .
The question is will Ukraine survive as a nation as it was in pre Feb 2022 , my opinion is No. Will Western leadership survive political duels as a result of inflation and hard economic times brought about by the war my opinion is No .
The effect of the war will be felt for years to come .
Unilateral World Order is finished , new powers will emerge , Russia will rejuvinate itself in all fields and will become much more stronger that it was pre Feb 2014.Russia is cowardly bombing water and energy - resorting to war crimes - as it loses the war. How is the comedian to blame.Comedian is winning with more than 65% of his population without electricity in middle of winter. He has been forced to issue stay st home orders to stop refugee migration. Poland with more than 4 million Ukrainian refugees cannot take anymore.
You mr Know it all ......lets save this post and come back and see how right or wrong you were.....
Anybody who is saying inflation is going down is simply INSANE.....
You see why IT people aee always shunned ?
Russia is cowardly bombing water and energy - resorting to war crimes - as it loses the war. How is the comedian to blame.Comedian is winning with more than 65% of his population without electricity in middle of winter. He has been forced to issue stay st home orders to stop refugee migration. Poland with more than 4 million Ukrainian refugees cannot take anymore.
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— Christophe Barraud🛢🐳 (@C_Barraud) January 2, 2023