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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Logan on December 09, 2014, 05:13:27 AM
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They are the law. Courts are a side track
Problem with such killer gangs is that they lead to more gangs and soon its Mexico and lots of bodies on the street. I have never seen a country kill its way into being secure. Even in Israel, they send them to jail.
Its a sad sad story, and one day the courts will decide and Kenya will have to pay these families.
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They are decongesting our courts. Bravehearts
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This is the EJK Omollo has been warning about. A mwananchi can be disappeared and life goes on. Chilling. Very chilling.
If the Muslims feel under siege. They are going to want to make others feel a bit of the medicine.
I still think it is relatively easy for Kenya to resolve this issue. It starts by creating some daylight between uncle Sam's "war on terror" and Kenya.
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How come this did not happen under Kibaki? Or did it? I remember they killed human rights watchers under Kibaki - Oscar and someone else
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How come this did not happen under Kibaki? Or did it? I remember they killed human rights watchers under Kibaki - Oscar and someone else
Yep. It did. They wiped out a lot of "Mungiki" youth. Oscar Kamau and Paul Oulu were neutralized for getting too close to that trail.
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I pray everyday that those praising EJK not be killed by these squads but get news of their loved ones mowed down. May it be the most loved son, daughter wife, mistress. Better still let the squads mistake the cars they are driving and spray it with bullets kill everybody except the one cheering them. I direct this solemn prayer to vooke, Obienga, Mgeni etc.
It doesn't take much really. It's just for a business rival to denounce you are a financier of radicals and this happens:
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They are decongesting our courts. Bravehearts
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These comments from The Nation seem to say someone's watching the mess from the sidelines with glee, ama..
The United States refrained on Friday from commenting on the ICC prosecutor’s decision to drop the charges of crimes against humanity that had been lodged against President Uhuru Kenyatta.
Responding to a Nation request for a response to the withdrawal of charges, a State Department official said the US is aware of the development and suggests that further inquiries about it should be made to the ICC.
“As a general matter,” the official added, “we continue to emphasise the importance of accountability, justice and the rule of law in Kenya.”
Adherence to these principles will “ensure democracy, peace and long-term stability,” while also fulfilling Kenya’s “commitments to seek justice for the victims of the post-election violence,” the official’s brief statement concluded.
The US comment made no mention of Kenya’s cooperation with the ICC. The US had previously urged Kenya to respect its obligations to the court as a state party to the treaty establishing the ICC.
Friday’s statement by the US, a country that is not an ICC state party, included no acknowledgment that Kenya had respected the court’s procedures. Nor did the US offer comment on the ICC judges’ finding that the Kenyan government had failed to cooperate fully with the prosecutor’s efforts to obtain evidence in Mr Kenyatta’s case.
MAJOR IRRITANT
The US appears to be acquiescing to the collapse of the case against Kenya’s head of state.
Washington may view the development as removing a major irritant in its relations with Nairobi. The US puts high priority on maintaining a close partnership with Kenya in fighting terrorism.
At a briefing for reporters on Friday, State Department deputy spokeswoman Marie Harf was asked about a dispatch earlier in the day by the Associated Press reporting that Kenyan police officers are killing unarmed terror suspects.
The US news agency cited interviews with victims, police, lawyers, activists and analysts as the basis for reporting that much of the violence is being carried out by “ordinary beat cops.” Evidence suggests that lawlessness on the part of policy is “almost never punished,” the story added.
INVESTIGATE CLAIMS
“We would urge the Kenyan government to thoroughly investigate these reported claims,” Ms Harf said in response to the query.
“Our training for law enforcement entities in Kenya aims to increase the professionalism and capacity of partner forces, and includes support for police oversight bodies to improve accountability and transparency in the police services.”
Ms Harf noted that all Kenyan trainees are vetted in accordance with a US law prohibiting assistance to military and police units judged to be violating human rights with impunity.
“Obviously, there are challenges here,” she added in regard to the actions of some Kenyan police. “This is one of the reasons we are continuing the training, because we know there’s more work to do" :o .
Meanwhile, where do we draw the line...if there is a line in the first place?
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Police corruption is like Ebola, it must be treated immediately otherwise it spreads and leaves lots of bodies all over streets. You heard them say that if they shoot someone they just bandika a gun and label them a terrorist like the one in Nyeri - case closed. Ask those whose relatives disappeared or were murdered in cold blood. If Kenyatta feels good to be acquitted, then he will know how these people will feel once they get justice.
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So the killings have spread to Baringo.
http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/thecounties/article/2000144107/former-kdf-soldier-son-shot-dead
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BARELY a week has passed since ICC suspended the case against Uhuru Kenya and some of the Jubilee allied bloggers have started to selectively share images of 2007/08 election violence and even others publicly stating who they think was responsible, YES we know where this debate is heading
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First it was the picture of Mzee Ndege who allegedly lost his entire family in Naivasha (here the Jubilee bloggers are saying Mzee Ndege LIED), then they move on to describe a pregnant lady in Eldoret who was forced to deliver prematurely and immediately the militia saw the baby was a boy – they killed it saying they don’t want another Mungiki in Eldoret, SURELY! This seem to be a well orchestrated campaign to taint image of an ICC accused so that at the time he is thrown to Jail for 3 to 4 years some people will be called heroes??
Here are some images they start with….
Now, why cant they put the entire story in perspective and tell it 360 degrees? then we can all heal and move on:
Start with Kibera, Limuru, Naivasha, Nakuru, Eldoret (North Rift), Kisumu, Kakamega, Mombasa Nyeri, Thika and all other places? [/i]
By Chris Cherambos
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Meanwhile, where do we draw the line...if there is a line in the first place?
This is the video I had seen earlier on twitter. For me, the really confusing line is when the cop switches into private hired assassin. With such license to eliminate, what is to stop them from pulling an innocent Negro from his jalopy and executing him on the street in broad daylight for a small fee? Dead men tell no tales.
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This would never take Kamwana back to ICC....Anyone expecting anything short of EJK on radical muslim preachers is day dreaming...we have no time to take those kind of animals to a human court of law. Thanks Al Jazeera but this is not news. Wacheni ujinga