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Title: Ruto - Ufool planned the arrest so Venezuelan - goal to push election forward
Post by: RV Pundit on July 23, 2022, 06:44:31 PM
Title: Re: Ruto - Ufool planned the arrest so Venezuelan - goal to push election forward
Post by: Kichwa on July 23, 2022, 07:06:59 PM
Why Venezuela though.  When did they became experts on free and fair elections.

Title: Re: Ruto - Ufool planned the arrest so Venezuelan - goal to push election forward
Post by: RV Pundit on July 23, 2022, 07:10:39 PM
Venezuela and Chile have very good software developers. Hugo Chavez invested heavily in tech - giving every kid laptop - and investing in internet.
Why Venezuela though.  When did they became experts on free and fair elections.
Title: Re: Ruto - Ufool planned the arrest so Venezuelan - goal to push election forward
Post by: Fairandbalanced on July 23, 2022, 08:03:21 PM
And we are supposed to believe that this is true because Ruto said it and you posted it here? Do you care to table some evidence? No, your answer is that Ruto has intelligence on the inside who repot to him, from the way Gachagua blamed everything on Uhuru, I am starting to think that Uhuru is one of the most underrated Humans on earth, how has he managed to stay ahead of everyone while also being a drunk. Frankly, I would like some of what he is drinking because it makes him superhuman.
Title: Re: Ruto - Ufool planned the arrest so Venezuelan - goal to push election forward
Post by: RV Pundit on July 23, 2022, 08:31:55 PM
You can buy the story that police stumbled upon them.
Or that NIS are on IEBC and it contractors like white on rice.
It's naive to imagine Uhuru didnt know about this.
They definitely planned to arrest him and take his computers.

I believe Uhuru has intelligence on IEBC. Ruto has intelligence on IEBC. Only a naive fool like Raila wont have such intelligence.

And we are supposed to believe that this is true because Ruto said it and you posted it here? Do you care to table some evidence? No, your answer is that Ruto has intelligence on the inside who repot to him, from the way Gachagua blamed everything on Uhuru, I am starting to think that Uhuru is one of the most underrated Humans on earth, how has he managed to stay ahead of everyone while also being a drunk. Frankly, I would like some of what he is drinking because it makes him superhuman.
Title: Re: Ruto - Ufool planned the arrest so Venezuelan - goal to push election forward
Post by: Pragmatic on July 24, 2022, 12:07:00 AM
I have followed Smartmatics from around its start/inception like 20yrs ago... they have a torrid history of incompetence and bungling of elections and more especially starting with their home country Venezuela where they messed up elections the first time their systems were used there. Then the owner ran off to the US.

Now, if these guys had a scheme, they could do it from anywhere, they don’t need to come on ground physically. Unless their system guys are so incompetent that they have to come on ground. Or they could simply load the kit with the “bug/algorithm” at factory operating software loading stage. I hear we have deported the fella... I really see no need, what was he gonna do; to single handedly load all the KIEMS kits with the algorithm? I think we are creating needless drama. But what do I know.... these Jubilee guys know what they did last time round.

Just to correct you, to “push it forward” means to make it sooner. From what you are discussing, it seems you mean to delay/postpone it in which case your title should have been to “..... push elections back”!
Title: Re: Ruto - Ufool planned the arrest so Venezuelan - goal to push election forward
Post by: RV Pundit on July 24, 2022, 12:32:30 AM
Algorithm is nonsense in a manual election.Only a computer illeterate will think it's possible to electronically alter the results then follow up with manual paper work.This is manual election...not electronic like in developed countries
Title: Re: Ruto - Ufool planned the arrest so Venezuelan - goal to push election forward
Post by: audacityofhope on July 24, 2022, 08:23:38 AM
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Algorithm is nonsense in a manual election.Only a computer illeterate will think it's possible to electronically alter the results then follow up with manual paper work.This is manual election...not electronic like in developed countries
You are probably the computer "illeterate" (sic). Also you are telling us you have a short memory. In 2013 Jubilee controlled IEBC managed that feat: ... this is what an iebc commissioner was quoted privately saying...

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"We are having sleepless nights reconciling the presidential results and those of the other positions. Over a million votes must be reconciled ..... 

Read more at:
1. IEBC wants Political Parties Act changed: The Act provides that political parties funding should be computed on the basis of election votes. (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://allafrica.com/stories/201305240478.html&ved=2ahUKEwj3wOX_4JD5AhXIxoUKHfAnDQ0QFnoECAcQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3wGpkUAWV9XApFGICUG1YI)

2. https://m.startribune.com/kenya-vote-totals-released-4-months-later/215995801/
Title: Re: Ruto - Ufool planned the arrest so Venezuelan - goal to push election forward
Post by: RV Pundit on July 24, 2022, 08:30:09 AM
Election results btw different seats can differ for many reasons.. this is a manual election.. people place wrong ballot on wrong boxes..also rigging in stronghold and nep that Chebukati is trying to fix.Nothing suggest electronic rigging I'd the cause
Title: Re: Ruto - Ufool planned the arrest so Venezuelan - goal to push election forward
Post by: Okoths7272 on July 24, 2022, 08:42:03 AM
You are the only fool who thinks Raila has no intelligence even criminal ruto and criminal chebukati recognizes railas capabilities.

Kenya will never be led by a criminal
You can buy the story that police stumbled upon them.
Or that NIS are on IEBC and it contractors like white on rice.
It's naive to imagine Uhuru didnt know about this.
They definitely planned to arrest him and take his computers.

I believe Uhuru has intelligence on IEBC. Ruto has intelligence on IEBC. Only a naive fool like Raila wont have such intelligence.

And we are supposed to believe that this is true because Ruto said it and you posted it here? Do you care to table some evidence? No, your answer is that Ruto has intelligence on the inside who repot to him, from the way Gachagua blamed everything on Uhuru, I am starting to think that Uhuru is one of the most underrated Humans on earth, how has he managed to stay ahead of everyone while also being a drunk. Frankly, I would like some of what he is drinking because it makes him superhuman.
Title: Re: Ruto - Ufool planned the arrest so Venezuelan - goal to push election forward
Post by: RV Pundit on July 24, 2022, 10:02:00 AM
You are the only fool who thinks Raila has no intelligence even criminal ruto and criminal chebukati recognizes railas capabilities.

Kenya will never be led by a criminal
You can buy the story that police stumbled upon them.
Or that NIS are on IEBC and it contractors like white on rice.
It's naive to imagine Uhuru didnt know about this.
They definitely planned to arrest him and take his computers.

I believe Uhuru has intelligence on IEBC. Ruto has intelligence on IEBC. Only a naive fool like Raila wont have such intelligence.

And we are supposed to believe that this is true because Ruto said it and you posted it here? Do you care to table some evidence? No, your answer is that Ruto has intelligence on the inside who repot to him, from the way Gachagua blamed everything on Uhuru, I am starting to think that Uhuru is one of the most underrated Humans on earth, how has he managed to stay ahead of everyone while also being a drunk. Frankly, I would like some of what he is drinking because it makes him superhuman.
Yet he has never won..Ruto is taking him and uhuru combined and you're sweating already
Title: Re: Ruto - Ufool planned the arrest so Venezuelan - goal to push election forward
Post by: sitting bull on July 24, 2022, 03:47:12 PM
IEBC is a criminal enterprise headed by an inept fool. Ouru and ruto's (2 thugs) fights have split the commission right in the middle with commissioners and employees taking sides. This might as well turn out to be the most disorganized election ever!
Title: Re: Ruto - Ufool planned the arrest so Venezuelan - goal to push election forward
Post by: RV Pundit on July 24, 2022, 04:08:07 PM
Title: Re: Ruto - Ufool planned the arrest so Venezuelan - goal to push election forward
Post by: RV Pundit on July 24, 2022, 04:09:21 PM
Everything in Kenya is split down the middle - that is why risk of political meltdown and civil war is high - every institution you run to - you'll find people hopelessly divided along ethnic lines.
IEBC is a criminal enterprise headed by an inept fool. Ouru and ruto's (2 thugs) fights have split the commission right in the middle with commissioners and employees taking sides. This might as well turn out to be the most disorganized election ever!
Title: Re: Ruto - Ufool planned the arrest so Venezuelan - goal to push election forward
Post by: sitting bull on July 24, 2022, 04:18:22 PM
Everything in Kenya is split down the middle - that is why risk of political meltdown and civil war is high - every institution you run to - you'll find people hopelessly divided along ethnic lines.
IEBC is a criminal enterprise headed by an inept fool. Ouru and ruto's (2 thugs) fights have split the commission right in the middle with commissioners and employees taking sides. This might as well turn out to be the most disorganized election ever!

Be that as it may, IEBC  should, in the very least conduct an election that , on face value seem credible. Starting with procurement of electoral material. I'd have at least expected chebukati and his team to have learnt that from the 2017 nullification. Or from 2007 PEV. Maybe these so called "goofs" by the chairman are strategically designed to achieve a desired outcome
Title: Re: Ruto - Ufool planned the arrest so Venezuelan - goal to push election forward
Post by: RV Pundit on July 24, 2022, 06:33:21 PM
When the complainant is the deep state and system - then you should be praising and supporting IEBC. It shows they are INDEPENDENT. That is their first assignment. Why should they tell police or gov what they are doing.

Be that as it may, IEBC  should, in the very least conduct an election that , on face value seem credible. Starting with procurement of electoral material. I'd have at least expected chebukati and his team to have learnt that from the 2017 nullification. Or from 2007 PEV. Maybe these so called "goofs" by the chairman are strategically designed to achieve a desired outcome
Title: Re: Ruto - Ufool planned the arrest so Venezuelan - goal to push election forward
Post by: sema on July 24, 2022, 06:49:39 PM
I am very confused by this Venezuelan story.  Who is this guy? why a Venezuelan and not say an American?  Why can't kenyans print their own ballot papers? Is it rocket science? This story is not making any sense to me
Title: Re: Ruto - Ufool planned the arrest so Venezuelan - goal to push election forward
Post by: gout on July 24, 2022, 07:04:02 PM
Precisely. The media is crying that IEBC is operating in 'secrecy' which is proof they chebukati is in control of his ship as it should be.
When the complainant is the deep state and system - then you should be praising and supporting IEBC. It shows they are INDEPENDENT. That is their first assignment. Why should they tell police or gov what they are doing.

Be that as it may, IEBC  should, in the very least conduct an election that , on face value seem credible. Starting with procurement of electoral material. I'd have at least expected chebukati and his team to have learnt that from the 2017 nullification. Or from 2007 PEV. Maybe these so called "goofs" by the chairman are strategically designed to achieve a desired outcome
Title: Re: Ruto - Ufool planned the arrest so Venezuelan - goal to push election forward
Post by: RV Pundit on July 24, 2022, 07:04:44 PM
Very simple.
IEBC replace OT Morpho with Smartmatic as their technology provider.
Smartmatic local partner is IT company called Seamless Tech owned by some wariah Abduallahi.
Seamless tech as local partner apply for work visa for Smarttech stuff and host them in apartments.
Deep state and kinoti desperately want to get Smartmatic systems.
They know from visa application their names.
They timed their arrival.
Then cause all these ruckus as ruse to start investigating and seizing Smartmatic equipment.

End goal - scare off smartmatic so they can hold manual election or compromise their systems.

George Njoroge their IT guy is busy now trying to hack their systems.

I am very confused by this Venezuelan story.  Who is this guy? why a Venezuelan and not say an American?  Why can't kenyans print their own ballot papers? Is it rocket science? This story is not making any sense to me
Title: Re: Ruto - Ufool planned the arrest so Venezuelan - goal to push election forward
Post by: gout on July 24, 2022, 07:10:22 PM
Several reasons. Colonial history. Tribal mistrust/divisions in public service, private sector and professional bodies. Politicized/state captured policing which can't act independently.

It is same case with national examinations. Even De La Rue contracts. Passports.

I am very confused by this Venezuelan story.  Who is this guy? why a Venezuelan and not say an American?  Why can't kenyans print their own ballot papers? Is it rocket science? This story is not making any sense to me
Title: Re: Ruto - Ufool planned the arrest so Venezuelan - goal to push election forward
Post by: sitting bull on July 24, 2022, 08:52:05 PM
When the complainant is the deep state and system - then you should be praising and supporting IEBC. It shows they are INDEPENDENT. That is their first assignment. Why should they tell police or gov what they are doing.

Be that as it may, IEBC  should, in the very least conduct an election that , on face value seem credible. Starting with procurement of electoral material. I'd have at least expected chebukati and his team to have learnt that from the 2017 nullification. Or from 2007 PEV. Maybe these so called "goofs" by the chairman are strategically designed to achieve a desired outcome

The very same IEBC you  and Rvhh keep saying here, the chairman Chebukati, is Wsr's man.... Absolutely hilarious
Title: Re: Ruto - Ufool planned the arrest so Venezuelan - goal to push election forward
Post by: RV Pundit on July 24, 2022, 11:27:13 PM
When the complainant is the deep state and system - then you should be praising and supporting IEBC. It shows they are INDEPENDENT. That is their first assignment. Why should they tell police or gov what they are doing.

Be that as it may, IEBC  should, in the very least conduct an election that , on face value seem credible. Starting with procurement of electoral material. I'd have at least expected chebukati and his team to have learnt that from the 2017 nullification. Or from 2007 PEV. Maybe these so called "goofs" by the chairman are strategically designed to achieve a desired outcome

The very same IEBC you  and Rvhh keep saying here, the chairman Chebukati, is Wsr's man.... Absolutely hilarious
Independently you should add . Nobody has forced them
Title: Re: Ruto - Ufool planned the arrest so Venezuelan - goal to push election forward
Post by: patel on July 25, 2022, 03:56:48 AM
Ufool is pretty much using 2017 playback. Jack up Unga prices, then subsidies, attack opposition election coordination centre, murder Msando (Venezuelan kicked out), fail to attend presidential debates, Murder Minister of Interior Nkaissery (Matiangi and kibicho sleep with one eye open), what else? MF very predictable
Title: Re: Ruto - Ufool planned the arrest so Venezuelan - goal to push election forward
Post by: audacityofhope on July 25, 2022, 06:12:23 AM
Ufool is pretty much using 2017 playback. Jack up Unga prices, then subsidies, attack opposition election coordination centre, murder Msando (Venezuelan kicked out), fail to attend presidential debates, Murder Minister of Interior Nkaissery (Matiangi and kibicho sleep with one eye open), what else? MF very predictable
Yes these things happened in 2017 but you had a very different take then and eve  voted twice for that "Ufool". Kula kiburi chako.
Title: Re: Ruto - Ufool planned the arrest so Venezuelan - goal to push election forward
Post by: RV Pundit on July 25, 2022, 06:16:25 AM
Ufool is pretty much using 2017 playback. Jack up Unga prices, then subsidies, attack opposition election coordination centre, murder Msando (Venezuelan kicked out), fail to attend presidential debates, Murder Minister of Interior Nkaissery (Matiangi and kibicho sleep with one eye open), what else? MF very predictable
Yes these things happened in 2017 but you had a very different take. You voted twice for that "Ufool". Kula kiburi chako.
Patel was in NASA.