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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on June 28, 2022, 06:48:21 PM
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I guess gov will have to create industries to convert diesel and petrol engines to electric engines...do the conversion as loan.
Doable for motor bikes...worldwide the trend is to electric bikes.
Difficult for cars.
But if gov zero rate electric cars...we could see many of them coming in.
We have about 700MW of power going to waste now.
Ethiopia can sell us 400MW of power cheaply.
We spend 2-3 billion dollars importing fuel.
This will provide huge opportunities for electric transport sector.
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For motorbike its very easy - just small electric motor and a small battery - and you're good to go. Gov will have to put charging ports in every boda boda shade....as they wait for next customers...they plug in.
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you are still littering the board with nonsense. post stuff that is realistic not some dreamt shit
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This is realistic for motor-bikes - and it moonshot for motor vehicles. Coming from Ndii and his 250 experts. Ruto is not a drunkard like Uhuru. Wait for the details. For motorbikes this is big winner. It fixes many problem - pollution, noise, cheaper,forex, many things.
If we go big on motor-bikes and buses - we would have fixed many things on transport sector. It ideal for many matatus who drive then wait in stage...they could be slowly charging their batteries.
you are still littering the board with nonsense. post stuff that is realistic not some dreamt shit
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Watch this documentary. We have 2 million motor- bikes (now) creating huge pollution - and are unaffordable to passengers/riders. Kenya already has 4-6 motor-bike assemblers doing the conversion
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Everything is possible with the right sober leadership. When you have a president using hard drugs and drinking hundreds of bottles a week, Unga, a basic commodity, can easily go from 80-230 in no time. Moving to electric brings fuel down, which in turn brings prices of everything down. Energy mismanagement can sink economy anywhere!
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It makes sense.
1) county and national governments are biggest customers for new vehicles..
2) Give tax rebates and incentives to big companies which purchase electric vehicles.
The most important thing:
Who supplies & finances GOk with vehicles?
Who finances and rolls out charging station infrastructure?
Kenyattas are in the vehicle assembly business in Kenya I think they own major franchises like GM Isuzu Toyota and Urysia Peugeot plus VW..I am not sure while NCBA is major financier of the GOK vehicle lease agreements with this franchises..time to phase then out.
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If they focus on boda boda and matatus which has greatest benefits for sector the personal car can move slowly.. matatus that are electric should be zero rated.. motorbike will need conversion industry.If done right Vietnam export 12 billion dollars worth of electric motorbike..if we start like we did mpesa we could join them.. electric motor bikes are easy to make.. doesn't have lots of parts..just electric motor and a gear
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The future of transport is electric.. countries that move first and fast will benefit... combustion engine era is coming to an end
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He will also turn water into wine and rocks into bread. The Kenyan electric grid cannot even supply electricity to homes consistently. Sell Ruto with realistic goals like digging hole toilets for every home in Kenya, flushable toilets in every home in Kenya is not even possible in the next 50yrs.
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He will also turn water into wine and rocks into bread. The Kenyan electric grid cannot even supply electricity to homes consistently. Sell Ruto with realistic goals like digging hole toilets for every home in Kenya, flushable toilets in every home in Kenya is not even possible in the next 50yrs.
Ndii your neighbor in kiambu is consulting for Ruto..I trust him more than a truck driver living in lolwe slums of Boston
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C'mon guys lets not be pessimists here. You shoot for the stars and landing on the moon is a goal accomplished.
Problem is he needs to put it in writing on the steps to achieve these.
CA has a goal of 2035. i think.
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He will also turn water into wine and rocks into bread. The Kenyan electric grid cannot even supply electricity to homes consistently. Sell Ruto with realistic goals like digging hole toilets for every home in Kenya, flushable toilets in every home in Kenya is not even possible in the next 50yrs.
Ndii your neighbor in kiambu is consulting for Ruto..I trust him more than a truck driver living in lolwe slums of Boston
You are so Trumpish. You turn into abuser to try to win a point. I loathe that.
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I've always said that Ndii is your typical academic living in the peter pan pie in the sky world. You can tell when you listen to him that he has very little real world experience and has spent his working years living in the theoretical world bank world and in academia.
The other day I heard him giving a speech and spitting out all these mathematical equations in his head (where of course every equation worked out perfectly) the real world will be a huge shock for him and dealing with ruthless politicians like ruto and gachagua another shock (I don't see him lasting)
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Electric is the future.. but China is running with the market of low-end EVs. Nio and BYD are snapping it from the Japs. Tesla is also beating German brands for medium to luxury market.
So yes to electric, targets are actually good. But if the ambition is to manufacture the scooters that's WAY tougher ambition to deliver. The Japs and Germans are drinking water cause it tough to hack the tech at scale.
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Kenya is ideal because we were already leading the world in small solar systems...ev is very similar market of batteries and charging... just small twists..to lithium batteries and electric charging stations that enterprising Kenyans will rollout nationally quickly.Motor bikes and matutus operating short distance are ideal because they spend lots of time waiting for customers and can be plugged on charging then.The incentive for clean cheap electric transport in a non pil producing country is alluring.We would take the lead in Africa.
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I do not understand what has happened to Pundit in the past few years. He is degenerating to a mind of a toddler.
The EU has just made a proposal not to register convectional vehicles by 2035. Ruto wants to do it in 3 years!
No further comment.
you are still littering the board with nonsense. post stuff that is realistic not some dreamt shit
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Ndii will be the first victim of those two thugs. He does not know with whom he is playing. I pity him since he will end up having a serious depression.
I've always said that Ndii is your typical academic living in the peter pan pie in the sky world. You can tell when you listen to him that he has very little real world experience and has spent his working years living in the theoretical world bank world and in academia.
The other day I heard him giving a speech and spitting out all these mathematical equations in his head (where of course every equation worked out perfectly) the real world will be a huge shock for him and dealing with ruthless politicians like ruto and gachagua another shock (I don't see him lasting)
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Again I am trying to just read Ndii tea leaves. I am not in Ruto think tank. We will get the details. If you ask me - boda-boda and matatus are easy targets - and ideal for electric - for personal cars, trucks and etc - it going be be tough.
Definitely when things improve - why not have electrified metro in Nairobi-it's very expensive but we need to move towards non-motorized transport - and electricity powered transport.
I wouldnt care much about people import diesel and petrol cars for their personal use.
But for public transport - gov should encourage the move to cleaner and cheaper e-mobility.
I do not understand what has happened to Pundit in the past few years. He is degenerating to a mind of a toddler.
The EU has just made a proposal not to register convectional vehicles by 2035. Ruto wants to do it in 3 years!
No further comment.
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Ndii kazi yake imeisha.
Once he has given Ruto a 5yr plan then he is no longer needed.
Ruto will implement the plan.
Otherwise your risk going back to where we are - where plans are generated daily - and they gather dust.
Ndii job will be to do annual reviews - monitoring and evaluation.
Implementation will be left to Ruto, Gachagua to deal with security, MaDVD to deal with supervision, Weta in parliament, Kingi in senate.
After 5yrs - he will come up with a new plan.
Ndii will be the first victim of those two thugs. He does not know with whom he is playing. I pity him since he will end up having a serious depression.
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Let the market decide not government mandates and decrees. Already the Electric motorbike market is about to explode, there's a waiting list on locally assembled electric motorbikes. Delivery companies are exploring option to buy electric motorbikes purely driven by economics. Charging stations kengen/kplc are installing https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/corporate/companies/kenya-power-plan-for-electric-vehicle-charging-stations-3642488 and individual investors will soon pile in.
A forward thinking government would be looking at ways to get kenya in the emerging market not just as consumers but as components producers. Kenya is endowed with geothermal, lithium can be extracted from geothermal brines to create battery industry. 70% the government owns in kengen should be sold on the NSE to raise funds for r&d, this is an opportunity to be participant of emerging industry.
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Agreed but gov is a catalyst to SCALE this nationally and quickly...by providing capital and capacity to meet the demand you're saying is pent up.
According to Ndii there is existing a million plus motor bikes which would benefit from conversion. Also there is 200K new bike market plus 500K in the region....so the market can go as high as 1 million motorbikes...that can employ even 200K kenyans.
Interesting the lithium can be extracted from geothermal brine. Look like NAIVASHA SEZ could work. We just need to buy Kenyatta out first - then give out the land to investor in lithium, motorbikes and etc. We cannot have kenyatta benefiting from that SEZ.
I think I heard Veitnam export 12B worth of electric motorbikes....this where Kenya can easily tap into. A million motorbikes each sold for a 1k usd is worth a billion dollars...and this can be done very very quickly.
Let the market decide not government mandates and decrees. Already the Electric motorbike market is about to explode, there's a waiting list on locally assembled electric motorbikes. Delivery companies are exploring option to buy electric motorbikes purely driven by economics. Charging stations kengen/kplc are installing https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/corporate/companies/kenya-power-plan-for-electric-vehicle-charging-stations-3642488 and individual investors will soon pile in.
A forward thinking government would be looking at ways to get kenya in the emerging market not just as consumers but as components producers. Kenya is endowed with geothermal, lithium can be extracted from geothermal brines to create battery industry. 70% the government owns in kengen should be sold on the NSE to raise funds for r&d, this is an opportunity to be participant of emerging industry.
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Agreed but gov is a catalyst to SCALE this nationally and quickly...by providing capital and capacity to meet the demand you're saying is pent up.
According to Ndii there is existing a million plus motor bikes which would benefit from conversion. Also there is 200K new bike market plus 500K in the region....so the market can go as high as 1 million motorbikes...that can employ even 200K kenyans.
Interesting the lithium can be extracted from geothermal brine. Look like NAIVASHA SEZ could work. We just need to buy Kenyatta out first - then give out the land to investor in lithium, motorbikes and etc. We cannot have kenyatta benefiting from that SEZ.
I think I heard Veitnam export 12B worth of electric motorbikes....this where Kenya can easily tap into. A million motorbikes each sold for a 1k usd is worth a billion dollars...and this can be done very very quickly.
Government need to stick to regulations where needed. Electric motorcycle adoption will be driven by demand, it simply makes economic sense for owners and operators. Boda boda industry is already big without government financing. The motorcycle owners will convert to electric bikes if it makes economic sense to them. The government regulators should focus on power supply reliability and cost.
The most important land isn't the SEZ but the kengen industrial park and geothermal authority owned land. The primary investor in lithium should naturally be kengen, that's why it needs to be removed from government control to install new management that'll be interested in investing into the future.
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Let see the nature of their intervention - tomorrow when we get more details. But I agree gov should sell more shares in Kengen, Safaricom, KCB and get out of their way...it probably best to sell to a strategic partner involved in electric stuff.
Government need to stick to regulations where needed. Electric motorcycle adoption will be driven by demand, it simply makes economic sense for owners and operators. Boda boda industry is already big without government financing. The motorcycle owners will convert to electric bikes if it makes economic sense to them. The government regulators should focus on power supply reliability and cost.
The most important land isn't the SEZ but the kengen industrial park and geothermal authority owned land. The primary investor in lithium should naturally be kengen, that's why it needs to be removed from government control to install new management that'll be interested in investing into the future.