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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Njuri Ncheke on June 13, 2022, 09:12:42 AM
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....Ruto needs watch out several people higher levels in UDA are being clandestinely sponsored by gatheca to derail UDA by leading the party to make wrong moves or deliberately wrecking the party from within
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Sasa hiyo ni kusema nini?
I dont think you know Ruto.
Ruto has parrallel intelligence that knows everything.
He has intelligence on his friends and his enemies
That is how he has beat Uhuru.
Money, Intelligence, name it, Ruto is not baby in these things.
Dont think Ruto amefika hapo by accident.
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Ruto is self destructive, he does not need help ?s=21&t=piybJyYCIfUSa2h1GgQIcw
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Sasa hiyo ni kusema nini?
I dont think you know Ruto.
Ruto has parrallel intelligence that knows everything.
He has intelligence on his friends and his enemies
That is how he has beat Uhuru.
Money, Intelligence, name it, Ruto is not baby in these things.
Dont think Ruto amefika hapo by accident.
I have info that some officials are leaking UDA plans to Azimio,pundit you have to understand that Ruto cant control everything in UDA some people are up to no good.
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True, Muthama , Mutua and many more are suspects.
Unfortunately There is so much intermixing between UDA amd Azimio that there is no passion of the players.
....Ruto needs watch out several people higher levels in UDA are being clandestinely sponsored by gatheca to derail UDA by leading the party to make wrong moves or deliberately wrecking the party from within
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What plans?
I have info that some officials are leaking UDA plans to Azimio,pundit you have to understand that Ruto cant control everything in UDA some people are up to no good.
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Ruto has very trusted inner core that knows the plans.
Muthama is not insider in Ruto team.
Even his friends - Ruto put intelligence - by time you're in - then talk.
Sasa what can you leak? Public meetings, manifesto? or agenda?
Real critical information in a campaign now - is IEBC intelligence, Campaign Financing, Internal security/NIS counter-intelligence
Those ones - Ruto trust wakina Sudi, Farouk, DL, Chirchir, Gachagua - even Murkomen hawezi fika hiyo kitchen cabinet.
The maybe Manifesto - which Ndii is in charge.
I would rank Gachagua, Chirchir, Sudi, Ndii and Farouk Kibet as Ruto inner core for the next two months - because right now Ruto is focused on IEBC's anniversary towers, Harambee/State Hse - and of course Central Bank of Kenya - moving huge money without being detected.
I dont think Ruto cares much about Raila - he is hapless old man - Ruto knows he is facing Uhuru.
True, Muthama , Mutua and many more are suspects.
Unfortunately There is so much intermixing between UDA amd Azimio that there is no passion of the players.
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Uda is being fucked right, middle, left and center back
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He delivered maDVD and his reward was Nairobi governorship. The rest are details. Ruto has done his part by keeping Wanjiru off the slums of Nairobi where she was dangerous.
Uda is being fucked right, middle, left and center back
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He delivered maDVD and his reward was Nairobi governorship. The rest are details. Ruto has done his part by keeping Wanjiru off the slums of Nairobi where she was dangerous.
Uda is being fucked right, middle, left and center back
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Kimosop cut trees in your homestead. We need you alive post August 8th
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With all due respect nobody serious would quote Uhuru interior minister of cellings affair.
Ruto is self destructive, he does not need help ?s=21&t=piybJyYCIfUSa2h1GgQIcw
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Very accurate, impossible to Penetrate 2 ring of Ruto inner circle. Most politicians have no discipline to go the distance. Easy to pick their signals from mpago wa kando then trace them back. All campaigns get infiltrated the question is upto what level.
Ruto has very trusted inner core that knows the plans.
Muthama is not insider in Ruto team.
Even his friends - Ruto put intelligence - by time you're in - then talk.
Sasa what can you leak? Public meetings, manifesto? or agenda?
Real critical information in a campaign now - is IEBC intelligence, Campaign Financing, Internal security/NIS counter-intelligence
Those ones - Ruto trust wakina Sudi, Farouk, DL, Chirchir, Gachagua - even Murkomen hawezi fika hiyo kitchen cabinet.
The maybe Manifesto - which Ndii is in charge.
I would rank Gachagua, Chirchir, Sudi, Ndii and Farouk Kibet as Ruto inner core for the next two months - because right now Ruto is focused on IEBC's anniversary towers, Harambee/State Hse - and of course Central Bank of Kenya - moving huge money without being detected.
I dont think Ruto cares much about Raila - he is hapless old man - Ruto knows he is facing Uhuru.
True, Muthama , Mutua and many more are suspects.
Unfortunately There is so much intermixing between UDA amd Azimio that there is no passion of the players.
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No way and njuuri are part of those who think that ufool has a magical card or plan? Gani? Wapi?
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It wont even be close; How do they intend to rule without parliament or senate?
The presidential election projection.
Ruto - 53-54%
Raila - 45-46%
Wajackoyah -1%
Mwaura - 0.3%
The Parliament, Senate and Governors Projection
Parliament Senate Gov
UDA 182 27 26
ODM 63 11 5
JUBILEE 26 3 4
WIPER 18 3 4
ANC 12 0 2
FORDK 9 1 2
KANU 2 1 0
KK(affl) 7 0 0
AZ(affl)- 17 1 4
336 47 47
UDA Nom 7 12
ODM Nom 3 5
JUBILEE Nom 1 2
WIPER Nom 1 2
SPEAKER(KK) 1 1
349 69 47
No way and njuuri are part of those who think that ufool has a magical card or plan? Gani? Wapi?
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One of the very few who understands Uhuru.
Uhuru cares only about his and family riches. He used Ruto snd Railas hate to get into power and enrich himself. Once he secured second term he displaced Ruto with Raila and corrupted Raila to keep silent when he steals with a part of the deal to support him come 2022.
Unfoetunately Uhuru post power under both Ruto and God forbid Raila will continue doing well.
Uhuru is a weak politician. We saw it in 2002 ,2005,2007 and 2010.
He was lucky to have ICC cases and Ruto with him in 2013 which made him win.
Having said that Kenyan politics is way easy to play ans doesnt require any magic.It revolves around 2 things Anti GEMA and Anti Raila. Whoever positions himself as the strongest of rhe the 2 political formations carries the day.
Raila having realised for 15 years he cant beat GEMA cialition this time around he is trying to divide them.
Ruto has become rhe Anti Raila face and has GEMA with him and he is the next President. No magic No science.
No way and njuuri are part of those who think that ufool has a magical card or plan? Gani? Wapi?
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Unfoetunately Uhuru post power under both Ruto and God forbid Raila will continue doing well.
NOT possible - under either R - Kenyattas are in for serious beating.
He is handing over a broke treasury - and so people will go for his wealth that he has privatized.
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It doesnt work out like that. People in power always know a time will come when they will be out of power so they always treat the people out of power how they will want to be treated once out of power.
Ofcourse we would want Safaricom Mpesa ties to be cut from Kenyata, Same with NCBA , Brookeside , Kenya Airways , SGR , Exprwssway etc. .It wont happen the way you envison that is drastically . It can happen systematically and within a long period of time.
Unfoetunately Uhuru post power under both Ruto and God forbid Raila will continue doing well.
NOT possible - under either R - Kenyattas are in for serious beating.
He is handing over a broke treasury - and so people will go for his wealth that he has privatized.
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I guess he forgot the last few years to treat Ruto and Gachagua better?
Kenyattas forgot to treat odingas better for 60yrs.
It will happen drastically because Kenyattas are exposed.
They dont have GEMA backing.
They are handing broke treasury - so their wealth and moi will be very attractive.
GEMA want Kenyattas dealt with pronto.
If Ruto wins - by december - Kenyattas will be done - NCB/KQ/Brookside/Lands - gone.
Mambo of losing power -and another Kenyatta getting is so remote - they are non-issue for next 20yrs.
Their gameplan - has ended in either R or R - they are finito.
And worse without GEMA backing :)
It most epic self-immolation we have ever seen.
At least Moi imploded but had Kalenjin support - who were willing to go to war if Moi was touched.
Now Uhuru and Mama ngina are being sacrificed by their own - and will be facing mortal enemies of R& R :)
Seriously this is most epic miscalculation.
1) Ruto wants you dead
2) Raila wants you dead - and will throw Azimio MOU out of the window the same day he wins - eti Uhuru ni Azimio Chairman - ya nani :) Pombe ni Mbaya kweli :)
3) GEMA wants you dead.
How do you survive that?
It doesnt work out like that. People in power always know a time will come when they will be out of power so they always treat the people out of power how they will want to be treated once out of power.
Ofcourse we would want Safaricom Mpesa ties to be cut from Kenyata, Same with NCBA , Brookeside , Kenya Airways , SGR , Exprwssway etc. .It wont happen the way you envison that is drastically . It can happen systematically and within a long period of time.
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With Raila's unfortunate win, Kenyatta's empire will slowly bleed over many years. With Ruto, it will be like putting a sharp-ass knife to the throat. It will bleed and lose billions in as quick as 90 days. Uhuru tried to cut Ruto's funding from mid-2018-to 2021. Everywhere Ruto gets money was attacked, KRA deployed, everything unleashed. Ruto is extremely upset about this. I suspect the first priority will be to find a way to conquer his enemies by making them thoroughly bankrupt in the shortest time possible. They will be so broke, they will come begging four, only to pay hefty fines, but NOT get what they were coming for! I cringe for Ruto's enemies. It is like Kids playing on the Railway line when 100-wagon train is approaching full speed!
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Look like Moi clan have abandoned Gideon alone - that one will not last a month - because even his sibling want him out. Kenyatta empire is easy to finish - because their wealth is concentrated - unlike Mois who are everywhere - and whose wealth is hidden in intricate web.
With Raila's unfortunate win, Kenyatta's empire will slowly bleed over many years. With Ruto, it will be like putting a sharp-ass knife to the throat. It will bleed and lose billions in as quick as 90 days. Uhuru tried to cut Ruto's funding from mid-2018-to 2021. Everywhere Ruto gets money was attacked, KRA deployed, everything unleashed. Ruto is extremely upset about this. I suspect the first priority will be to find a way to conquer his enemies by making them thoroughly bankrupt in the shortest time possible. They will be so broke, they will come begging four, only to pay hefty fines, but NOT get what they were coming for! I cringe for Ruto's enemies. It is like Kids playing on the Railway line when 100-wagon train is approaching full speed!
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No way and njuuri are part of those who think that ufool has a magical card or plan? Gani? Wapi?
Have you thought we might be acquainted with some information thats you guys might lack, we are at a better position to know whats happening around Uhurus circle than you.
And again I totally agree Sakaja is top of that list like Noway says,I will disclose mine in a few days.
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Uhuru moves are really weakening and costing uda a lot of credibility. Sakaja ouster shows uhuru has strategically and surgically planned on how to deal with uda
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He still legible - challengers petition are yet to be decided on
Uhuru moves are really weakening and costing uda a lot of credibility. Sakaja ouster shows uhuru has strategically and surgically planned on how to deal with uda
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Sakaja
Waiguru
Mutua
Lusaka
Muturi
Not exhaustive yet
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Kenyatta empire is easy to finish - because their wealth is concentrated - unlike Mois who are everywhere - and whose wealth is hidden in intricate web.
A few questions:
1) Why are you assuming that the Kenyatta's who have been at it for as long as the Moi's don't have a hidden intricate webb when it comes to their money?
2) Based on what you and rv heavy hitter are saying, you are making ruto sound like a dangerous, vindictive guy who will go after the kenyatta wealth, not for the benefit of the public, but rather for his own benefit and to seek his own personal revenge
3) Why wouldn't the army, that the kenyatta's have a long history with, why wouldn't they protect him? I've always maintained that the people with the real power in Africa is the army, not the politicians.
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sema why do you bother. Pundit knows nothing past MOAS. ati Ruto or Raila will crush Kenyatta and Moi. That is pure AND POOR conjecture. Everyone knows it will be Fuata Nyayo as always.
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I have studied Ruto closely and RVHH is closest you'll come to Ruto. Ruto crushes his opponents. He doesnt negotiate until you're finished. Ruto carries a big stick. Raila carries an axe. Ruto is nonsense determined person who if he has decided to crush Kenyatta - he will - and he will do a clean job at it.
Bottomline - You dont want to be Ruto enemy - because he will relentlessly come at you.
sema why do you bother. Pundit knows nothing past MOAS. ati Ruto or Raila will crush Kenyatta and Moi. That is pure AND POOR conjecture. Everyone knows it will be Fuata Nyayo as always.
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You're a cartoon. Which army will protect Kenyatta. Kenyatta protection will have to come from GEMA - if they scream murder - Ruto will back off - but if they support Ruto to dismantle Brookside, Mpesa/NCBA ecosystem, TimSales, KQ and related airport monopolies, Land acquision - then the kenyatta are kaput.
Ndii business is to finish Kenyatta - Ndii hates the Kenyatta with passion - and the manifesto will contain blue-print of dismanting Kenyatta
MOi prepared to leave power to hostile regime for most of 90s - and they have faced hostile kibaki gov - their wealth is not concentrated in few companies - they have small stuff all over the map. Kenyatta have kept Land as their biggest wealth, Brookside, then NCBA - and then small stuff.
A few questions:
1) Why are you assuming that the Kenyatta's who have been at it for as long as the Moi's don't have a hidden intricate webb when it comes to their money?
2) Based on what you and rv heavy hitter are saying, you are making ruto sound like a dangerous, vindictive guy who will go after the kenyatta wealth, not for the benefit of the public, but rather for his own benefit and to seek his own personal revenge
3) Why wouldn't the army, that the kenyatta's have a long history with, why wouldn't they protect him? I've always maintained that the people with the real power in Africa is the army, not the politicians.
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Many Politician are only loyal to Ruto because of the ground. Otherwise some have to be paid - and will take Uhuru money or power. For Ruto his best bet is to have the ground game. All those people run to Kenyatta but as eleciton approached - the ground brought them to Ruto.
So doesnt have to worry about such guys because next month they need Ruto. Once Ruto is PORK - they will be biggest to kneel and prostrate - but their loyalty will always be in doubt.
Ruto will give them netball affairs - but likes of Ndidi, Gachagua, Ichungwa, Duale, Linturi, many loyal folks...will run the show as Ruto will reward those who not fair weather friends. Ruto has had 5yrs to see all of them.
Sakaja
Waiguru
Mutua
Lusaka
Muturi
Not exhaustive yet
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Look like Moi clan have abandoned Gideon alone - that one will not last a month - because even his sibling want him out. Kenyatta empire is easy to finish - because their wealth is concentrated - unlike Mois who are everywhere - and whose wealth is hidden in intricate web.
With Raila's unfortunate win, Kenyatta's empire will slowly bleed over many years. With Ruto, it will be like putting a sharp-ass knife to the throat. It will bleed and lose billions in as quick as 90 days. Uhuru tried to cut Ruto's funding from mid-2018-to 2021. Everywhere Ruto gets money was attacked, KRA deployed, everything unleashed. Ruto is extremely upset about this. I suspect the first priority will be to find a way to conquer his enemies by making them thoroughly bankrupt in the shortest time possible. They will be so broke, they will come begging four, only to pay hefty fines, but NOT get what they were coming for! I cringe for Ruto's enemies. It is like Kids playing on the Railway line when 100-wagon train is approaching full speed!
Yes, Moi investments are just all over the globe. First American bank and trust is one of them (65% Moi family owned). Crazy leeches!
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but if they support Ruto to dismantle Brookside, Mpesa/NCBA ecosystem, TimSales, KQ and related airport monopolies, Land acquision - then the kenyatta are kaput.
The downtrodden kikuyu poor will support ruto as long as he doesn't do what kibaki did, which was make a deal with moi and keep the money for himself. How do Ruto and Ndii plan to dismantle what Ndii keeps calling state capture and do it in a way that doesn't destroy the underlying economy?
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Timsale ni rahisi.. license small millers.Brookside ni rahisi support small farmers dairy.Mpesa fuliza disallow crazy interest rates.Land...buy it cheaply n redistribute.kenyatta keep it mostly for prestige..most of it idle.Give it to IDPS, squattors and rest use it for public utility.Kenyatta remember took Ruto Ruai land of 1000 acres so he can expect to lose northland.His other companies make them pay taxes to kra....and they will collapse one by one
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Kabogo
Kuria
Are another set of moles kwanza this one is deadly.
Kabogo has a multi billion dollar investment with gatheca sons in Kiambu. How he ended up and welcomed in UDA is mind baffling
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I bet kabogo is one being mark timed here. I have never seen even in inconsequential counties three strong governorship contenders in the same meeting. Even MCAs are bitter rivals.
Kabogo
Kuria
Are another set of moles kwanza this one is deadly.
Kabogo has a multi billion dollar investment with gatheca sons in Kiambu. How he ended up and welcomed in UDA is mind baffling
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This is a win win all over Kenya. I am sure when it gets to the wire in August- this will be campaign clarion call. They way dynasties are digging in, they will get a blowback. Even just on Thika Highway or Mombasa Road, Kenya Railways- so much idle land as people squeeze in Githurai, Kibera. Not to talk of the Nairobi National Park and even Karura.
Timsale ni rahisi.. license small millers.Brookside ni rahisi support small farmers dairy.Mpesa fuliza disallow crazy interest rates.Land...buy it cheaply n redistribute.kenyatta keep it mostly for prestige..most of it idle.Give it to IDPS, squattors and rest use it for public utility.Kenyatta remember took Ruto Ruai land of 1000 acres so he can expect to lose northland.His other companies make them pay taxes to kra....and they will collapse one by one