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Offline Njuri Ncheke

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Re: UDA has been infiltrated by dynasty moles
« Reply #20 on: June 15, 2022, 11:28:12 AM »
No way and njuuri are part of those who think that ufool has a magical card or plan? Gani? Wapi?
Have you thought we might be acquainted with some information thats you guys might lack, we are at a better position to know whats happening around Uhurus circle than you.
And again I totally agree Sakaja is top of that list like Noway says,I will disclose mine in a few days.

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Re: UDA has been infiltrated by dynasty moles
« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2022, 11:47:04 AM »
Uhuru moves are really weakening and costing uda a lot of credibility. Sakaja ouster shows uhuru has strategically and surgically planned on how to deal with uda

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Re: UDA has been infiltrated by dynasty moles
« Reply #22 on: June 15, 2022, 11:56:29 AM »
He still legible - challengers petition are yet to be decided on
Uhuru moves are really weakening and costing uda a lot of credibility. Sakaja ouster shows uhuru has strategically and surgically planned on how to deal with uda

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Re: UDA has been infiltrated by dynasty moles
« Reply #23 on: June 15, 2022, 09:11:09 PM »
Sakaja
Waiguru
Mutua
Lusaka
Muturi
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Re: UDA has been infiltrated by dynasty moles
« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2022, 10:04:38 PM »
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Kenyatta empire is easy to finish - because their wealth is concentrated - unlike Mois who are everywhere - and whose wealth is hidden in intricate web.

A few questions:

1) Why are you assuming that the Kenyatta's who have been at it for as long as the Moi's don't have a hidden intricate webb when it comes to their money?

2) Based on what you and rv heavy hitter are saying, you are making ruto sound like a dangerous, vindictive guy who will go after the kenyatta wealth, not for the benefit of the public, but rather for his own benefit and to seek his own personal revenge

3) Why wouldn't the army, that the kenyatta's have a long history with, why wouldn't they protect him? I've always maintained that the people with the real power in Africa is the army, not the politicians.

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Re: UDA has been infiltrated by dynasty moles
« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2022, 12:15:52 AM »
sema why do you bother. Pundit knows nothing past MOAS.  ati Ruto or Raila will crush Kenyatta and Moi. That is pure AND POOR conjecture. Everyone knows it will be Fuata Nyayo as always.
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Re: UDA has been infiltrated by dynasty moles
« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2022, 01:12:13 AM »
I have studied Ruto closely and RVHH is closest you'll come to Ruto. Ruto crushes his opponents. He doesnt negotiate until you're finished. Ruto carries a big stick. Raila carries an axe. Ruto is nonsense determined person who if he has decided to crush Kenyatta - he will - and he will do a clean job at it.

Bottomline - You dont want to be Ruto enemy - because he will relentlessly come at you.

sema why do you bother. Pundit knows nothing past MOAS.  ati Ruto or Raila will crush Kenyatta and Moi. That is pure AND POOR conjecture. Everyone knows it will be Fuata Nyayo as always.

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Re: UDA has been infiltrated by dynasty moles
« Reply #27 on: June 16, 2022, 01:16:53 AM »
You're a cartoon. Which army will protect Kenyatta. Kenyatta protection will have to come from GEMA - if they scream murder - Ruto will back off - but if they support Ruto to dismantle Brookside, Mpesa/NCBA ecosystem, TimSales, KQ and related airport monopolies, Land acquision - then the kenyatta are kaput.

Ndii business is to finish Kenyatta - Ndii hates the Kenyatta with passion - and the manifesto will contain blue-print of dismanting Kenyatta

MOi prepared to leave power to hostile regime for most of 90s - and they have faced hostile kibaki gov - their wealth is not concentrated in few companies - they have small stuff all over the map. Kenyatta have kept Land as their biggest wealth, Brookside, then NCBA - and then small stuff.


A few questions:

1) Why are you assuming that the Kenyatta's who have been at it for as long as the Moi's don't have a hidden intricate webb when it comes to their money?

2) Based on what you and rv heavy hitter are saying, you are making ruto sound like a dangerous, vindictive guy who will go after the kenyatta wealth, not for the benefit of the public, but rather for his own benefit and to seek his own personal revenge

3) Why wouldn't the army, that the kenyatta's have a long history with, why wouldn't they protect him? I've always maintained that the people with the real power in Africa is the army, not the politicians.

Offline RV Pundit

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Re: UDA has been infiltrated by dynasty moles
« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2022, 01:21:12 AM »
Many Politician are only loyal to Ruto because of the ground. Otherwise some have to be paid - and will take Uhuru money or power. For Ruto his best bet is to have the ground game. All those people run to Kenyatta but as eleciton approached - the ground brought them to Ruto.

So doesnt have to worry about such guys because next month they need Ruto. Once Ruto is PORK - they will be biggest to kneel and prostrate - but their loyalty will always be in doubt.

Ruto will give them netball affairs - but likes of Ndidi, Gachagua, Ichungwa, Duale, Linturi, many loyal folks...will run the show as Ruto will reward those who not fair weather friends. Ruto has had 5yrs to see all of them.

Sakaja
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Mutua
Lusaka
Muturi
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Re: UDA has been infiltrated by dynasty moles
« Reply #29 on: June 16, 2022, 02:04:25 AM »
Look like Moi clan have abandoned Gideon alone - that one will not last a month - because even his sibling want him out. Kenyatta empire is easy to finish - because their wealth is concentrated - unlike Mois who are everywhere - and whose wealth is hidden in intricate web.
With Raila's unfortunate win, Kenyatta's empire will slowly bleed over many years. With Ruto, it will be like putting a sharp-ass knife to the throat. It will bleed and lose billions in as quick as 90 days. Uhuru tried to cut Ruto's funding from mid-2018-to 2021. Everywhere Ruto gets money was attacked, KRA deployed, everything unleashed. Ruto is extremely upset about this. I suspect the first priority will be to find a way to conquer his enemies by making them thoroughly bankrupt in the shortest time possible. They will be so broke, they will come begging four, only to pay hefty fines, but NOT get what they were coming for! I cringe for Ruto's enemies. It is like Kids playing on the Railway line when 100-wagon train is approaching full speed!
Yes, Moi investments are just  all over the globe. First American bank and trust is one of them (65% Moi family  owned). Crazy leeches!
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Re: UDA has been infiltrated by dynasty moles
« Reply #30 on: June 16, 2022, 02:09:56 AM »
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but if they support Ruto to dismantle Brookside, Mpesa/NCBA ecosystem, TimSales, KQ and related airport monopolies, Land acquision - then the kenyatta are kaput.

The downtrodden kikuyu poor will support ruto as long as he doesn't do what kibaki did, which was make a deal with moi and keep the money for himself. How do Ruto and Ndii plan to dismantle what Ndii keeps calling state capture and do it in a way that doesn't destroy the underlying economy?

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Re: UDA has been infiltrated by dynasty moles
« Reply #31 on: June 16, 2022, 06:31:50 AM »
Timsale ni rahisi.. license small millers.Brookside ni rahisi support small farmers dairy.Mpesa fuliza disallow crazy interest rates.Land...buy it cheaply n redistribute.kenyatta keep it mostly for prestige..most of it idle.Give it to IDPS, squattors and rest use it for public utility.Kenyatta remember took Ruto Ruai land of 1000 acres so he can expect to lose northland.His other companies make them pay taxes to kra....and they will collapse one by one

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Re: UDA has been infiltrated by dynasty moles
« Reply #32 on: June 17, 2022, 10:07:08 AM »
Kabogo
Kuria
Are another set of moles kwanza this one is deadly.
Kabogo has a multi billion dollar investment with gatheca sons in Kiambu. How he ended up and welcomed in UDA is mind baffling

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Re: UDA has been infiltrated by dynasty moles
« Reply #33 on: June 17, 2022, 11:07:34 AM »
I bet kabogo is one being mark timed here. I have never seen even in inconsequential counties three strong governorship contenders in the same meeting. Even MCAs are bitter rivals. 

Kabogo
Kuria
Are another set of moles kwanza this one is deadly.
Kabogo has a multi billion dollar investment with gatheca sons in Kiambu. How he ended up and welcomed in UDA is mind baffling
I underestimated the heartbreaks visited by hasla revolution

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Re: UDA has been infiltrated by dynasty moles
« Reply #34 on: June 17, 2022, 11:17:44 AM »
This is a win win all over Kenya. I am sure when it gets to the wire in August- this will be campaign clarion call. They way dynasties are digging in, they will get a blowback. Even just on Thika Highway or Mombasa Road, Kenya Railways- so much idle land as people squeeze in Githurai, Kibera. Not to talk of the Nairobi National Park and even Karura.

Timsale ni rahisi.. license small millers.Brookside ni rahisi support small farmers dairy.Mpesa fuliza disallow crazy interest rates.Land...buy it cheaply n redistribute.kenyatta keep it mostly for prestige..most of it idle.Give it to IDPS, squattors and rest use it for public utility.Kenyatta remember took Ruto Ruai land of 1000 acres so he can expect to lose northland.His other companies make them pay taxes to kra....and they will collapse one by one
I underestimated the heartbreaks visited by hasla revolution