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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Dear Mami on May 20, 2022, 10:58:17 PM
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Finally, we are starting to turn a corner, on the mend since Uhuruto murdered Chapter Six.
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Yaani, upon impeachment or criminal conviction, you are out while you do your appeals. When your appeal is successful, then you can come back :D That's how it should be. High Court already barred IEBC, this should further solidify manenos for the courts as they weigh this, methinks.
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She should keep her opinion to herself.
She should only do so in the court.
This one need to be removed.
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Koome should keep off politics...Let the PEOPLE decide.The moment you use courts of law to bar someone from running and he is 100% sure of winning,You will meet his wrath on the streets...that's what normally happens but some of these people are too naive to understand.
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So now you agree with us. You were praising her then.
She should keep her opinion to herself.
She should only do so in the court.
This one need to be removed.
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So now you agree with us. You were praising her then.
She should keep her opinion to herself.
She should only do so in the court.
This one need to be removed.
look like she only good in family law..but she killed BBI.Next election she is Azimio coz Martha is a friend.So like BBI Ruto need to beat Raila by huge mile Koome is a now a certified moron..if not doing prayers..she is discussing legal issues on tv
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Koome should keep off politics...Let the PEOPLE decide.The moment you use courts of law to bar someone from running and he is 100% sure of winning,You will meet his wrath on the streets...that's what normally happens but some of these people are too naive to understand.
She should only speak in her judgements..that prize to pay by being a judge.You zip up.You only speak in court.For her she speaks with finality as supreme court judge.This woman is crazy ...mara she was sitting with matiangi to plan Iebc work...took reminding to make her see sense
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God forbid we bar a murderer from running for or holding an office.
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You cannot restrict people from exercising power directly without sufficient reason.
If people want a murderer - they will elect a murderer.
Uhuru is a murderer - murdered many in Naivasha and elsewhere by financing retalitorary attacks using Mungiki, then later on to murderer the same Mungiki, NGO witnesses like Olur, Musando and many others. You can estimate Uhuru murders in highs of 100s.
But kenyans we say we think he is better than Raila - who murdered 1500 people in 1982 coup and 2007 was also responsible for violence.
Raila murders are in highs of thousands. 82 coup alone must be a lot. His violent politics since 1990s till to date has seen many murders in Kibra, Kisumu and wherever he has support base.
And yet some Kenyans love him - and we cannot stop him with legal mumbo jumbo - we stop him at the ballot by rejecting murderers and conmen.
God forbid we bar a murderer from running for or holding an office.
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You cannot restrict people from exercising power directly without sufficient reason.
Impeachment and criminal convictions are very sufficient reasons in every sane universe.
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You cannot restrict people from exercising power directly without sufficient reason.
Impeachment and criminal convictions are very sufficient reasons in every sane universe.
After they have completely exhausted their appeals process...Sonko is in supreme court.That the constitution.Many believe Sonko was impeached with fake voting from COVID protocols.
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Martha karua the later day heroine has run all the way past supreme court to east Africa cout of justice and may end up in ICJ for loosing kirinyanga
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When I told you Uhuru henchmen rigged her and Ouko in you digressed.
She will either be impeached or she will resign. Ruto will take control of JSC after elections.
So now you agree with us. You were praising her then.
She should keep her opinion to herself.
She should only do so in the court.
This one need to be removed.
look like she only good in family law..but she killed BBI.Next election she is Azimio coz Martha is a friend.So like BBI Ruto need to beat Raila by huge mile Koome is a now a certified moron..if not doing prayers..she is discussing legal issues on tv
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I believe nobody is an angel. I like to give chance to everyone.I think she did well in BBI - Lenaola suprised me by his shallow BBI ruling. Njoki need to be removed somehow.
For Ruto - a compromised person is easy to compromise - so they will be kneeling before Ruto faster than they did to Uhuru.
Certainly Ruto should prepare for a re-run because Uhuru has almost half of supreme court - and they could annual his victory - so pesa asimalize. He should save for the re-run.
When I told you Uhuru henchmen rigged her and Ouko in you digressed.
She will either be impeached or she will resign. Ruto will take control of JSC after elections.
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Yaani, upon impeachment or criminal conviction, you are out while you do your appeals. When your appeal is successful, then you can come back :D That's how it should be. High Court already barred IEBC, this should further solidify manenos for the courts as they weigh this, methinks.
Sounds like the spirit of chapter six. Conviction is indeed a more than adequate bar. It really should be an ethical rather than legal standard. Otherwise you cannot bar a murderer or rapist even with indisputable evidence until he exhausts all avenues, which IMO is upside down.
I don’t know that the opinion has force of law, but courts should at some point - whether through a ruling or otherwise - take this position.
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You cannot restrict people from exercising power directly without sufficient reason.
Impeachment and criminal convictions are very sufficient reasons in every sane universe.
After they have completely exhausted their appeals process...Sonko is in supreme court.That the constitution.Many believe Sonko was impeached with fake voting from COVID protocols.
I don't believe that interpretation of the constitution is proper: it was adopted in Kenya because of ICC 2013 manenos. It would've never become law otherwise.
What Koome says is a rational interpretation of the Constitution. Once you're convicted by Senate or a Court, you cannot serve office unless that decision is overturned. Indeed, as Termie says, that is already a very low bar. To say that a CONVICT (not even an accused waiting to be investigated but someone already found guilty in some fashion after a formal due process) should continue till you exhaust appeals is not found anywhere in the constitution and in fact makes a complete mockery of Chapter Six. It's not a fundamental right to serve any public office, so you go and clear your name first. You don't stink the public office while we wait for you to exhaust appeals as if you're on death row or something. 50 million other citizens can serve.
It was only Mutunga's cowardice that allowed all this. I don't believe this current post-Maraga ourt would've let that be law because the effect is to repeal Chapter Six.
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That has merit.
I can now see where she comes from...but I believe she should wait patiently until the case reaches her...unless she intend to recluse herself.
UhuRuto were suspect.
Sonko has been impeached.
Sirisia Waluke has been convincted but is out on bail.
So I can see the difference btw being tried, and being found guilty - but on appeal
I believe MPS (PSA members led by Ruto, Uhuru, Raila, Martha - Naivasha crew) - who were resolving issues that COE did not - deliberately disallowed chapter six on MPs, Governors and PORK.
We cannot cure that by legal gymnastics. We have to ammend the constitution.
But in the meantime nobody is applying chapter six on appointed official
So we have a long way to go - we have people not elected behaving with impunity.
If we were to allow anybody tried for any offence to be out of office - gov will enact dictatorship - by trying their opponents.
So that is a no - for suspect being tried - let us argue about Sonko and Waluke status now - for they have been found to be guilty.
You cannot restrict people from exercising power directly without sufficient reason.
Impeachment and criminal convictions are very sufficient reasons in every sane universe.
After they have completely exhausted their appeals process...Sonko is in supreme court.That the constitution.Many believe Sonko was impeached with fake voting from COVID protocols.
I don't believe that interpretation of the constitution is proper: it was adopted in Kenya because of ICC 2013 manenos. It would've never become law otherwise.
What Koome says is a rational interpretation of the Constitution. Once you're convicted by Senate or a Court, you cannot serve office unless that decision is overturned. Indeed, as Termie says, that is already a very low bar. To say that a CONVICT (not even an accused waiting to be investigated but someone already found guilty in some fashion after a formal due process) should continue till you exhaust appeals is not found anywhere in the constitution and in fact makes a complete mockery of Chapter Six. It's not a fundamental right to serve any public office, so you go and clear your name first. You don't stink the public office while we wait for you to exhaust appeals as if you're on death row or something. 50 million other citizens can serve.
It was only Mutunga's cowardice that allowed all this. I don't believe this current post-Maraga ourt would've let that be law because the effect is to repeal Chapter Six.
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No Dear Mami it wasn’t Mutunga cowardice, it was Lenaola ruling on the two Hague suspects that has brought us here. Since then the politicians and all law breakers have ran away with that precedent. Lenaola’s cowardice really did Kenya a number..... what was difficult in him ruling that public office should be for holders beyond reproach (like Caesar’s wife), that once you have been properly investigated and brought to court on such very serious crimes then you should go and clear yourself before you offer yourself for public office.
You cannot restrict people from exercising power directly without sufficient reason.
Impeachment and criminal convictions are very sufficient reasons in every sane universe.
After they have completely exhausted their appeals process...Sonko is in supreme court.That the constitution.Many believe Sonko was impeached with fake voting from COVID protocols.
I don't believe that interpretation of the constitution is proper: it was adopted in Kenya because of ICC 2013 manenos. It would've never become law otherwise.
What Koome says is a rational interpretation of the Constitution. Once you're convicted by Senate or a Court, you cannot serve office unless that decision is overturned. Indeed, as Termie says, that is already a very low bar. To say that a CONVICT (not even an accused waiting to be investigated but someone already found guilty in some fashion after a formal due process) should continue till you exhaust appeals is not found anywhere in the constitution and in fact makes a complete mockery of Chapter Six. It's not a fundamental right to serve any public office, so you go and clear your name first. You don't stink the public office while we wait for you to exhaust appeals as if you're on death row or something. 50 million other citizens can serve.
It was only Mutunga's cowardice that allowed all this. I don't believe this current post-Maraga ourt would've let that be law because the effect is to repeal Chapter Six.
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That would kill democracy. All gov would do is to bring anybody they dont like before a law of court and accuse them of serious crimes.
Let talk about Waluke now. He has been found guilty. That is different. Sonko also stand impeached. That is different - I believe their status is not that of an innocent person but a condemned person trying to overturn a guilty verdict.
So let see if Mativo will resolve the case of Sonko and Walukes - because a convicted murderer in jail or out (like in kenya) can appeal for 20yrs - but he remain convicted.
But wording for qualification for MP/Gov/PORK is very clear - Sonko and Waluke should run.
No Dear Mami it wasn’t Mutunga cowardice, it was Lenaola ruling on the two Hague suspects that has brought us here. Since then the politicians and all law breakers have ran away with that precedent. Lenaola’s cowardice really did Kenya a number..... what was difficult in him ruling that public office should be for holders beyond reproach (like Caesar’s wife), that once you have been properly investigated and brought to court on such very serious crimes then you should go and clear yourself before you offer yourself for public office.
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What Democracy nonsense are you talking about.... as Dear Mami says there 50m other Kenyans who can serve!!!
And what did the two Hague suspects proceed to do once they got into office...?? They killed all the witnesses and evidence and used state resources to escape justice. That’s exactly what WsR and Gachagua are going to do with their myriad court cases if they were to win the elections.
That would kill democracy. All gov would do is to bring anybody they dont like before a law of court and accuse them of serious crimes. Let talk about Waluke now. He has been found guilty. That is different. Sonko also stand impeached. That is different - I believe their status is not that of an innocent person but a condemned person trying to overturn a verdict.
No Dear Mami it wasn’t Mutunga cowardice, it was Lenaola ruling on the two Hague suspects that has brought us here. Since then the politicians and all law breakers have ran away with that precedent. Lenaola’s cowardice really did Kenya a number..... what was difficult in him ruling that public office should be for holders beyond reproach (like Caesar’s wife), that once you have been properly investigated and brought to court on such very serious crimes then you should go and clear yourself before you offer yourself for public office.
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Democracy is more important than anything. It's article 1.
Secondly it was upon ICC to lock them up or not for the period of their trial. Dont blame the kenya vote. ICC should have disallowed bail if they knew they were powerful people who would interfere with trial. Or they should have allowed them out of jail but to remain in Netherland or in Europe...but not in Kenya. Without being around..nobody would have voted them.
You cannot blame Kenya courts or Chebukati or the voter when someone like Waluke is walking freely in Sirisia. How are they suppose to know he is dangerous?
What Democracy nonsense are you talking about.... as Dear Mami says there 50m other Kenyans who can serve!!!
And what did the two Hague suspects proceed to do once they got into office...?? They killed all the witnesses and evidence and used state resources to escape justice. That’s exactly what WsR and Gachagua are going to do with their myriad court cases if they were to win the elections.
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And now that we are here, you know that WsR is a convicted land-grabber (Muteshi case returned a guilty verdict); if we are to apply chapter 6 without fear or favour, he shouldn’t be allowed to vie.
Democracy is more important than anything. It's article 1.
Secondly it was upon ICC to lock them up or not for the period of their trial. Dont blame the kenya vote. ICC should have disallowed bail if they knew they were powerful people who would interfere with trial. Or they should have allowed them out of jail but to remain in Netherland or in Europe...but not in Kenya. Without being around..nobody would have voted them.
You cannot blame Kenya courts or Chebukati or the voter when someone like Waluke is walking freely in Sirisia. How are they suppose to know he is dangerous?
What Democracy nonsense are you talking about.... as Dear Mami says there 50m other Kenyans who can serve!!!
And what did the two Hague suspects proceed to do once they got into office...?? They killed all the witnesses and evidence and used state resources to escape justice. That’s exactly what WsR and Gachagua are going to do with their myriad court cases if they were to win the elections.
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You dont get convicted in a civil case. You win or lose the case. Ruto lost the land and had to pay damage to Muteshi. That was end of it. If Muteshi wanted to pursue criminal case - he should have gone to Turbo police.
And now that we are here, you know that WsR is a convicted land-grabber (Muteshi case returned a guilty verdict); if we are to apply chapter 6 without fear or favour, he shouldn’t be allowed to vie.
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It is just that Muteshi was satisfied at restitution. GoK should have pursued criminal charges... forceful eviction with use of dangerous weapons, no less!
You dont get convicted in a civil case. You win or lose the case. Ruto lost the land and had to pay damage to Muteshi. That was end of it. If Muteshi wanted to pursue criminal case - he should have gone to Turbo police.
And now that we are here, you know that WsR is a convicted land-grabber (Muteshi case returned a guilty verdict); if we are to apply chapter 6 without fear or favour, he shouldn’t be allowed to vie.
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And now that we are here, you know that WsR is a convicted land-grabber (Muteshi case returned a guilty verdict); if we are to apply chapter 6 without fear or favour, he shouldn’t be allowed to vie.
Democracy is more important than anything. It's article 1.
Secondly it was upon ICC to lock them up or not for the period of their trial. Dont blame the kenya vote. ICC should have disallowed bail if they knew they were powerful people who would interfere with trial. Or they should have allowed them out of jail but to remain in Netherland or in Europe...but not in Kenya. Without being around..nobody would have voted them.
You cannot blame Kenya courts or Chebukati or the voter when someone like Waluke is walking freely in Sirisia. How are they suppose to know he is dangerous?
What Democracy nonsense are you talking about.... as Dear Mami says there 50m other Kenyans who can serve!!!
And what did the two Hague suspects proceed to do once they got into office...?? They killed all the witnesses and evidence and used state resources to escape justice. That’s exactly what WsR and Gachagua are going to do with their myriad court cases if they were to win the elections.
Ideally it should not even need to be a ruling in a due process. That chapter was added because ethics were completely absent in our politics. Credible evidence of some malfeasance should suffice. A man caught on CCTV exposing his member to an underage child should show cause why he should be allowed to run, even if he has not been convicted.
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Move to Iran. You will be very happy in a theocracy where the Supreme Leader Hayottah decides who runs or not based on Islamic ideals.
Ideally it should not even need to be a ruling in a due process. That chapter was added because ethics were completely absent in our politics. Credible evidence of some malfeasance should suffice. A man caught on CCTV exposing his member to an underage child should show cause why he should be allowed to run, even if he has not been convicted.
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Iran runs a morality or guardian council that decided who runs for office based on islamic values...that form of gov is theocracy's.
Guardian Council
Ayatollah Ahmad Jannati is the chairman of both the Guardian Council and the Assembly of Experts
The most influential body in Iran, the Guardian Council is tasked with approving all bills passed by parliament and has the power to veto them. It can also bar candidates from standing in elections to parliament, the presidency and the Assembly of Experts.
The council consists of six theologians appointed by the Supreme Leader and six jurists nominated by the judiciary and approved by parliament. Members are elected for six years on a phased basis, so that half the membership changes every three years.
The council is dominated by hardliners, including the chairman Ayatollah Ahmad Jannati.
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IEBC following Koome indication, :D We seem to be indeed starting t turn a corner. It started with the Maraga SCOK nullifying 2017 and ordering re-election. Uhuru fights with Judiciary with them defying him (sometimes stupidly, IMO, sometimes wisely) have added a little more steem to institutional independence. Chebukati is trying after 2017 bungle. But as we said years ago, political will is everything. You need people at the helm to make the correct decisions at difficult times, then to be rewarded for it with public and international respect, then for the govt to go along with it, whatever tantrums it throws. That encourages more and more institutions to start acting with ethics and their own legacy topmost of their considerations. In a few decades, it should bear fruit. We have to start somewhere. :)
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We can start by ammending the constitution...otherwise I dont think there is any other legal interpretation of this plain English.
Article 99
Section 2
(g) is subject to a sentence of imprisonment of at least six months, as at the date of registration as a candidate, or at the date of election; or
(h) is found, in accordance with any law, to have misused or abused a State office or public office or in any way to have contravened Chapter Six.
(3) A person is not disqualified under clause (2) unless all possibility of appeal or review of the relevant sentence or decision has been exhausted.
IEBC following Koome indication, :D We seem to be indeed starting t turn a corner. It started with the Maraga SCOK nullifying 2017 and ordering re-election. Uhuru fights with Judiciary with them defying him (sometimes stupidly, IMO, sometimes wisely) have added a little more steem to institutional independence. Chebukati is trying after 2017 bungle. But as we said years ago, political will is everything. You need people at the helm to make the correct decisions at difficult times, then to be rewarded for it with public and international respect, then for the govt to go along with it, whatever tantrums it throws. That encourages more and more institutions to start acting with ethics and their own legacy topmost of their considerations. In a few decades, it should bear fruit. We have to start somewhere. :)
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We can start by ammending the constitution...otherwise I dont think there is any other legal interpretation of this plain English.
Article 99
Section 2
(g) is subject to a sentence of imprisonment of at least six months, as at the date of registration as a candidate, or at the date of election; or
(h) is found, in accordance with any law, to have misused or abused a State office or public office or in any way to have contravened Chapter Six.
(3) A person is not disqualified under clause (2) unless all possibility of appeal or review of the relevant sentence or decision has been exhausted.
IEBC following Koome indication, :D We seem to be indeed starting t turn a corner. It started with the Maraga SCOK nullifying 2017 and ordering re-election. Uhuru fights with Judiciary with them defying him (sometimes stupidly, IMO, sometimes wisely) have added a little more steem to institutional independence. Chebukati is trying after 2017 bungle. But as we said years ago, political will is everything. You need people at the helm to make the correct decisions at difficult times, then to be rewarded for it with public and international respect, then for the govt to go along with it, whatever tantrums it throws. That encourages more and more institutions to start acting with ethics and their own legacy topmost of their considerations. In a few decades, it should bear fruit. We have to start somewhere. :)
If we're going to get technical, then Sonko is free to run as MP. Let Buru folk pick him if they want. The guy is entertaining and can talk.
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That would kill democracy. All gov would do is to bring anybody they dont like before a law of court and accuse them of serious crimes.
Let talk about Waluke now. He has been found guilty. That is different. Sonko also stand impeached. That is different - I believe their status is not that of an innocent person but a condemned person trying to overturn a guilty verdict.
So let see if Mativo will resolve the case of Sonko and Walukes - because a convicted murderer in jail or out (like in kenya) can appeal for 20yrs - but he remain convicted.
But wording for qualification for MP/Gov/PORK is very clear - Sonko and Waluke should run.
No Dear Mami it wasn’t Mutunga cowardice, it was Lenaola ruling on the two Hague suspects that has brought us here. Since then the politicians and all law breakers have ran away with that precedent. Lenaola’s cowardice really did Kenya a number..... what was difficult in him ruling that public office should be for holders beyond reproach (like Caesar’s wife), that once you have been properly investigated and brought to court on such very serious crimes then you should go and clear yourself before you offer yourself for public office.
Pundit wax legal. Convicted means there is reasonable cause to believe a person committed offense. Something like court believe accusations by police or EACC are credible. That is reason enough to bar running for public office where he will do same thing or interfere with prosecution. We saw what Sonko did with governor office. Same to Obado.
Impeached mean Senate believe there is reasonable cause for MCAs to send governor home.
Suspected or charged with corruption cases especially has lower status but discretion can apply. Lenaola applied low or no discretion as a judicial officer and gave a skunk. MPs got close in this.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2021-09-27-bombshell-plan-to-lock-out-graft-suspects-from-polls/
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He can only stand for MP, Senator, Gov and PORK. Otherwise he cannot hold a sub chief office because he fails chapter six. But people can make him their MP - for the people are supreme and can choose to exercise power directly like in an election.
If we're going to get technical, then Sonko is free to run as MP. Let Buru folk pick him if they want. The guy is entertaining and can talk.
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Little knowledge is dangerous.
Reasonable cause is reasonable suspicion...that what police cite to stop you and search on the spot.
The bar here is very very low.
When you have been found guilty, or been impeached, you can still run, as long as there is an appeal going.
This is not accidental clause.
This is what deliberately inserted by Mps - including Martha, Ruto, etc - in Naivasha PSC - to defeat chapter six - or avoid misuse for political reasons.
You endorse the constitution subsequently
And you cannot cry.
Pundit wax legal. Convicted means there is reasonable cause to believe a person committed offense. Something like court believe accusations by police or EACC are credible. That is reason enough to bar running for public office where he will do same thing or interfere with prosecution. We saw what Sonko did with governor office. Same to Obado.
Impeached mean Senate believe there is reasonable cause for MCAs to send governor home.
Suspected has lower status but discretion can apply. Lenaola applied low or no discretion as a judicial officer and gave a skunk.
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https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2021-09-27-bombshell-plan-to-lock-out-graft-suspects-from-polls/
Look at the list see why Pundit opposes tightening chapter six requirement.
More than two dozen of MPs are also face charges including misuse of CDF cash, fraud, forgery, murder and incitement to violence – all considered breaches of the integrity laws.
The list include Mathira MP Rigathi Gachagua who is out on bail following a charge of conspiracy to defraud Nyeri county of Sh27 million.
The case followed shortly after he was charged with obtaining Sh7 billion suspected to be the proceeds of crime.
Lugari MP Ayub Savula is out on bail, after being charged with obtaining Sh122 million from the Government Advertising Agency.
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Useless excitement that fails at altar of article 99 - which Mps deliberately put them - to avoid such - and kenya passed the katiba.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2021-09-27-bombshell-plan-to-lock-out-graft-suspects-from-polls/
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Pundit want an MP to steal CDF cash and buy county MCAs, judiciary and voters then come back as governor or running mate.
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Sonko is in Azimio.
Siria Mp is in Azimio.
All sides have corrupt people
Please grow a brain and mature up.
Look at the list see why Pundit opposes tightening chapter six requirement.
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Typical ODMoron reasoning. What I want is irrelevant. The rule of law will prevail.
Pundit want an MP to steal CDF cash and buy county MCAs, judiciary and voters then come back as governor or running mate.
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You have good runningmate. Go ahead and say main agenda after taking over JSC will be to repeal chapter six.
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Cok2010 has no major issues. The law cannot go ahead of the citizen without resorting to strong arm like Rwanda dictatorship. It's citizen to catch up and do their job of sending home anybody suspected of corruption. That is developed world standard. Morality cannot be legislated.
You have good runningmate. Go ahead and say main agenda after taking over JSC will be to repeal chapter six.
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Article 75 may finish Sonko
75. Conduct of State officers
The Constitution of Kenya Chapter Six - Leadership and Integrity Hits: 85598
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(1) A State officer shall behave, whether in public and official life, in private life, or in association with other persons, in a manner that avoids--
(a) any conflict between personal interests and public or official duties;
(b) compromising any public or official interest in favour of a personal interest; or
(c) demeaning the office the officer holds.
(2) A person who contravenes clause (1), or Article 76, 77 or 78 (2)--
(a) shall be subject to the applicable disciplinary procedure for the relevant office; and
(b) may, in accordance with the disciplinary procedure referred to in paragraph (a), be dismissed or otherwise removed from office.
(3) A person who has been dismissed or otherwise removed from office for a contravention of the provisions specified in clause (2) is disqualified from holding any other State office
https://nation.africa/kenya/counties/mombasa/petitioner-can-t-withdraw-suit-against-sonko-s-mombasa-gubernatorial-bid-judge-rules-3825574
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Yeah with article 260 including governor; it going to be battle btw Article 75 (3) and article 99(3). Sonko likely to bribe Odhiambo and his lawyer with millions to withdraw the case. He already bribed the main petitioner.
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Pundi
He can only stand for MP, Senator, Gov and PORK. Otherwise he cannot hold a sub chief office because he fails chapter six. But people can make him their MP - for the people are supreme and can choose to exercise power directly like in an election.
If we're going to get technical, then Sonko is free to run as MP. Let Buru folk pick him if they want. The guy is entertaining and can talk.
As I said, if we want to be technical and not talk about principles, then Sonko can run for MP. I'm not sure how Article 99 applies to the office of Governer.
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Same qualification applies for governor and PORK as an MP except for the degree and signatures. Your principles. My Principles. Not the same. They are voter preferences. So technical we need to use article 75 (3) to lock Sonko out. I wont be sad if he isnt elected. He has nothing special. He only denies oDM/Raila the opportunity. Otherwise btw Joho and Sonko - the difference is the same.
As I said, if we want to be technical and not talk about principles, then Sonko can run for MP. I'm not sure how Article 99 applies to the office of Governer.
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So now you agree with us. You were praising her then.
She should keep her opinion to herself.
She should only do so in the court.
This one need to be removed.
look like she only good in family law(Conveniet Excuse) ..but she killed BBI.Next election she is Azimio coz Martha is a friend.So like BBI Ruto need to beat Raila by huge mile Koome is a now a certified moron..if not doing prayers..she is discussing legal issues on tv
The way Moses Kuria describes Kalonzo is the same way we can describe Pundit:
Moses kuria on Facebook:
“Word of caution to my fellow Kenya Kwanza great people. Kalonzo will still go for the interview. He is currently on study leave in preparation. He will not be picked as the running mate. Yet he will still find a convenient excuse to stay in Azimio. A lost cause,”
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https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/world/2022-05-24-mp-barasa-in-trouble-after-branding-cdf-car-with-uda-colours/
They still want him to run because he is mere suspect.
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This impeachment thing is slipperly slope - Kimunya must go will also go
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2022-05-25-court-bars-iebc-from-clearing-kiambu-uda-senate-candidate/