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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: KenyanPlato on February 23, 2022, 04:05:56 PM
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1) that he briefed ruto on handshake up to the moment he ment raila at harambee house
2) raila and uhuru agreed that they won't share power because uhuru had a coalition partner. He asks the crowd whether his partner lost any cabinet seats after handshake.
3) bbi was a result of handshake and his plan to secure his supporters base interests after he leaves power
4) he has plans to leave power and go back to civilian life once his term ends
5) he denies the claims that bbi was about him wanting to stay in power. Calls this claim a cheap lie
6) asks politicians in Central to lead and not runaway from issues when faced by youth rebellion
7) he has focused on work while his detractors have concentrated on politics
8) he asks kikuyus to vote for whoever they think will work well with others and keep the nation united
9) he said that they claim he is a richman that why he is not aware of what goes on. He says his economic records shows he inherited a 5 trillion economy and he will hand over a 13 trillion economy
10) tell the church to respect people and stop misleading them.
All in all uhuru was able to make his case and what he has done. He will definitely win some hearts and minds in Central
I listened to 15 minutes of his kikuyu speech.. Anyway uhuru is pleading to reason. Ruto is selling fear and is bitter. Two different approaches
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Where are the beans?
This passive-aggressive behaviour is feminine
GEMA as far as I know dont have ANY MAJOR problems with UHURU.
The problem is Raila.
So he really need to concentrate on explaining why Raila - without saying that we need should appease him so he doesnt breach peace.
He needs to explain why Raila is better than Ruto
He also need to face the elephant in the room - undoing the peace deal with Kalenjin - could endanger 1 million of Kikuyus
What is the plan - that is better than Kibaki 2007.
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Now let us wait for Pundit to reply on his own version of Uhuru's speech in Kikuyu. :D :D :D
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I beat you to it. I listened to the speech with the help of my wife.
The idea that I cannot comment on German issues or Russian or Luhya because I am not one of them is pure nonsense.
I have been in politics since I was 10yrs old.
I have read kenya politics since 1960s from our home library.
Now let us wait for Pundit to reply on his own version of Uhuru's speech in Kikuyu. :D :D :D
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Uhuru declared support for Raila.
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Your wife mislead you. It is hard from someone from embu to get actual context and tone of message. Uhuru is not goingto make ruto a subject of his campaign. He is campaigning on his record against his promises. That was the message. He said he won't be dragged into war of words with his opponents
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Why is he campaigning? Campaigning for what position? Will he appoint a proxy DPORK? He needs to decide - to retire or to come to the field - if he throws punches - nobody will pull them.
If he is coming to play - he should come ready for it.
Your wife mislead you. It is hard from someone from embu to get actual context and tone of message. Uhuru is not goingto make ruto a subject of his campaign. He is campaigning on his record against his promises. That was the message. He said he won't be dragged into war of words with his opponents
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Is this the first time a retiring president or ex- president is campaigning for their favorite candidate? Did you see all former Democratic presidents campaigning for Biden? Uhuru believes in Raila to continue working for Kenyans, the handshake has brought tremendous progress in all parts of Kenya. Was there a deal signed that Kikuyus have to always vote for kalenjins or get decimated? If there is a deal like that, then it’s the worst treaty ever signed in the history of Kenya. Prepare for Raila presidency, it’s inevitable.
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Ahaha they thought that uhuru will idly sit by and let them bear his candidate. Uhuru is not iebc but a retiring leader from kiambu. Uhuru will undo 5 years of ruto campaigns
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He therefore need to come clear and say he is campaigning.
He is passive aggressive - he is not saying anything that is clear.
As for Kalenjin-kikuyu unwritten pact - it called Kumi Kumi.
Kama ile pombe iko kiambu ya kumi kumi
Very dangerous alcohol.
In ideal world we dont need such deals but reality is if Uhuru was to show up in eldoret the kikuyus there will probably stone him
Because he is put their life and properties at stake.
I mean it Uhuru speaking about appeasing Raila to save Kikiyu kiosks?
Is this the first time a retiring president or ex- president is campaigning for their favorite candidate? Did you see all former Democratic presidents campaigning for Biden? Uhuru believes in Raila to continue working for Kenyans, the handshake has brought tremendous progress in all parts of Kenya. Was there a deal signed that Kikuyus have to always vote for kalenjins or get decimated? If there is a deal like that, then it’s the worst treaty ever signed in the history of Kenya. Prepare for Raila presidency, it’s inevitable.
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From the whimper we saw today - I dont see him lasting two weeks in a campaign trial - in fact a week is too much for him.
Ahaha they thought that uhuru will idly sit by and let them bear his candidate. Uhuru is not iebc but a retiring leader from kiambu. Uhuru will undo 5 years of ruto campaigns
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Tweak your tribal census. Only gachagua and wahome are willing to mention ruto in Central now
The way things are going even cucu wahome may vote for raila Chini ya maji like kioni did to mudavadi. Siasa ni hasara tupu
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Hiyo ni bangi mbichi. This is today. We are preparing medicals for Gov Kimemia. Uhuru is naked. He cut a pitiable figure - infact only politician he had left in there was Kiraitu - the rest are Nyoros who are going home.
Saturday Ruto will be in Nyeri - to unveil your next leader Rigathi Robert Gachagua - the famous DO of Githunguri who use to shave you bila maji
Tweak your tribal census. Only gachagua and wahome are willing to mention ruto in Central now
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Your tribal census has become the idea of using slippery liver to predict life. Wait till April for the real siasa
Right kikuyus are busy hustling. Siasa bado
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Btw data has pretty much firmed - now we observe Uhuru moves - see if Jakom will improve from 20 percent - I already have him at 35 percent in most GEMA counties - way ahead because I anticipated this move. I have also given Jakom Kalonzo - but that is increasingly looking unlikely
Your tribal census has become the idea of using slippery liver to predict life. Wait till April for the real siasa
Right kikuyus are busy hustling. Siasa bado
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Where are the beans?
This passive-aggressive behaviour is feminine
GEMA as far as I know dont have ANY MAJOR problems with UHURU.
The problem is Raila.
So he really need to concentrate on explaining why Raila - without saying that we need should appease him so he doesnt breach peace.
He needs to explain why Raila is better than Ruto
He also need to face the elephant in the room - undoing the peace deal with Kalenjin - could endanger 1 million of Kikuyus
What is the plan - that is better than Kibaki 2007.
You missed it. Complaining of handshake all day and night and in his dreams. UK say he knew all along. Puncture hasola story slowly but surely without hurting his own legacy. No elephant in room because it secure RV also.
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Keep it here. The census is fluid kabisa. Only in kipsigis and Nandi counties is your guy guaranteed to win. Hii ingine yote ni battle ground.
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We are just waiting for Kalonzo to make his moves. The ground has firmed. Undecided are few now. Mostly Ukambani. I am expecting to see undecided in Mt kenya to disappear - now it's clear it Uhuru is backing Raila.
In the meantime I am dont know if Lee Kinyanjui and Gov Kimemia attended - but those two are probably heading to Ruto.
I see Moses Kuria just peed on his constituent number 1 rally - calling it Nyumba Kumi.
Hii Kitu Ruto ameenda naye by faaaaaaaaaaaaar. People were expecting real beans - not wish-washy speech.
Kwanza wacha tuone Kalonzo - Kalonzo has been crying to Uhuru not to endorse Raila - he is the most betrayed.
Keep it here. The census is fluid kabisa. Only in kipsigis and Nandi counties is your guy guaranteed to win. Hii ingine you ni battle ground.
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It started with uhuru is playing Raila,Mara Uhuru and Gideon cannot trust Raila,ooh Raila will be dumped,Uhuru will reconcile with Ruto,Uhuru is just keeping Raila busy to finish his term.Even as at now,some Kalenjin friends if mine still believe Raila is being played.Reality hasn't dawned on them.
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What kind of support is he offering Jakom when he has let Jubilee to die - almost everyone with political gravitas in mt kenya has left him for UDA?
His speech was whimper? Folks were hoping for TKO or something that'd would cause an earthquake?
What kind of support is this? Lukewarm?
lackadaisical?
Now it appears the last ditch effort is to cannibalize the small parties by forcing them to unite with dying Jubilee? :)
Let's wait for Kalonzo move.....this one was a whimper
It started with uhuru is playing Raila,Mara Uhuru and Gideon cannot trust Raila,ooh Raila will be dumped,Uhuru will reconcile with Ruto,Uhuru is just keeping Raila busy to finish his term.Even as at now,some Kalenjin friends if mine still believe Raila is being played.Reality hasn't dawned on them.
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Infact to summarize the whiper this guys nails it
GM Mugunyi
He said we support Old mzee because he caused fights in Kisumu,Nairobi, Trans nzoia and in our kiosk and the only way to stop him is voting for him.
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Why is Uhuru so afraid of retirement? It's not making sense to me.
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This is the first day out for Uhuru while Ruto has been going nuts with rallies for five years. Wait until Uhuru and Raila hit Kiambu, Mombasa etc there will be a lot of sweating on this site. In politics, timing is everything, Biden has been running for presidency since time immemorial but his time came, he got blessed by Trump and his craziness. It’s Raila’s time, he is blessed by Ruto, the most untrustworthy corrupt politician in Kenya who is literally banned from most developed countries.
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The coward never said anything, therefore Sagana 4 must be called. Ruto has Sagana 4 this weekend before he jets to USA. You can rest assured relevant, not reject okuyus will attend in thousands. Like Mathira women, you may see over 4000 women wearing yellow dresses. The yellow Army!
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Njamba, Kai munyuaga hamwe? I thought you were objective. He said NOTHING very emotionally. Ati Ruto stole 2 Billion for Marakwet Dam that head of state knows about and has done nothing about it is Bar Talk. Very disappointed! I was hoping he'd give us insight on the miracle worker that healed Muguruki, so cleansed so that he's now the best person to lead the State. Unge ciira na Ngoma unawe niukuguka (having a conversation with a Mad Man will make you as Mad)...That includes you Njamba and FB. Ngoma!
Ahaha they thought that uhuru will idly sit by and let them bear his candidate. Uhuru is not iebc but a retiring leader from kiambu. Uhuru will undo 5 years of ruto campaigns
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Uhuru is done. It will end very badly for him. Watch this space. Raila has pretty much given up, eating blood money not easy.
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Uhuru is well aware of the poisoned ground. The Railaphobia is very real in mt Kenya and Mwizi has been very busy exploiting it. Uhuru, if he comes out strong, explains himself and why he supports Raila, he will convince the rich, middle class, the people who are aware of Moi error and young millennials who are tribeless to come out and vote for Raila. If this happens and he gets 30% mt Kenya, wins western, coast, Nairobi, kisii land, North eastern and Eastern, he walks straight to state house. In doing this, he will become a legend, he wins without Kalenjins and majority of Kikuyus and therefore not beholden to the two most corrupt tribes in Kenya. Raila will usher a new dawn in Kenya that is not dominated by two tribe Ujinga and backwardness.
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I have him winning 35% in MOAS in GEMA- and have given him Kalonzo - he still 2 million short of Ruto
Dont raise your hopes high :)
This election Ruto is hard to beat because the top 3 tribes are going to majority vote for Ruto.
Kikuyu/GEMA, Kalenjin and Luhya.
Kambas are out there - Let's see if Kalonzo will give cover Raila shame - because without them - margin extend to 3.5m plus.
Remember GEMA+Kalenjin+Luhya+Luo+Kamba is more than 70 percent of the vote.
Uhuru is well aware of the poisoned ground. The Railaphobia is very real in mt Kenya and Mwizi has been very busy exploiting it. Uhuru, if he comes out strong, explains himself and why he supports Raila, he will convince the rich, middle class, the people who are aware of Moi error and young millennials who are tribeless to come out and vote for Raila. If this happens and he gets 30% mt Kenya, wins western, coast, Nairobi, kisii land, North eastern and Eastern, he walks straight to state house. In doing this, he will become a legend, he wins without Kalenjins and majority of Kikuyus and therefore not beholden to the two most corrupt tribes in Kenya. Raila will usher a new dawn in Kenya that is not dominated by two tribe Ujinga and backwardness.
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Infact to summarize the whiper this guys nails it
GM Mugunyi
He said we support Old mzee because he caused fights in Kisumu,Nairobi, Trans nzoia and in our kiosk and the only way to stop him is voting for him.
How is that from a guy who threaten war every day? Vote for us or your people walk to Kiambaa. Used as bargaining chip for 2013 ICC handshake.
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I dont remember doing that. I just remember playing scenarios where Kalenjin would feel betrayed and who'd decide to attack GEMA. Those are plausible scenario.
How is that from a guy who threaten war every day? Vote for us or your people walk to Kiambaa. Used as bargaining chip for 2013 ICC handshake.
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Look like it backfired - he delivered a whimper - when people expected a bombshell enough to betray someone who had supported him 4 times. Ruto has also decided to turn the other cheek and not respond to mlevi