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Title: Uhuru serously backing Raila and to try to undo Ruto work in few weeks
Post by: RV Pundit on January 30, 2022, 10:42:58 AM
The audacity! We shall see the impact soon?

Look like he is ready to go down with Raila the same way Moi went with him 20yrs ago.

I expect KANU's Gideon Moi to quit OKA

Will Kalonzo run with Martha? or Jimmy? Or will he also join Azimio
Title: Re: Uhuru serously backing Raila and to try to undo Ruto work in few weeks
Post by: patel on January 30, 2022, 11:06:56 AM
That explains why Gachagua and ichungwa have ramped up their attack on mlevi 1. Politically where can uhuru hurt Ruto? Maybe Centro but with the economy the way it is very few kukuyu want to hear about kenyatta family.

Kalonzo indecisiveness is his main undoing. Now he is stuck with Gedion and Jimmy. I think Gedion want him to support Azimio while Jimmy might take him to UDA.
Title: Re: Uhuru serously backing Raila and to try to undo Ruto work in few weeks
Post by: audacityofhope on January 30, 2022, 11:11:10 AM
The audacity! We shall see the impact soon?

Look like he is ready to go down with Raila the same way Moi went with him 20yrs ago.

I expect KANU's Gideon Moi to quit OKA

Will Kalonzo run with Martha? or Jimmy? Or will he also join Azimio
Yes he is seriously backing Raila. Meanwhile you and your brigade ....
Title: Re: Uhuru serously backing Raila and to try to undo Ruto work in few weeks
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on January 30, 2022, 12:03:39 PM
The audacity! We shall see the impact soon?

Look like he is ready to go down with Raila the same way Moi went with him 20yrs ago.

I expect KANU's Gideon Moi to quit OKA

Will Kalonzo run with Martha? or Jimmy? Or will he also join Azimio
This is where he will be seriously exposed his soft underbelly will be poked.. what will gatheca tell Merus for example?? Ataambia waembu nini pia,unless he will sell him in Kiambu no problem but Nyeri and Muranga hakuna kitu atawambia pia.
Title: Re: Uhuru serously backing Raila and to try to undo Ruto work in few weeks
Post by: RV Pundit on January 30, 2022, 01:00:10 PM
Mau Mau road - is good - and the dual way to Nyeri - yes he will get some hearing in Central counties - I dont see how he gets an earing in Meru & Embu.

If he encounters problems like he did in Nyeri church - where everyone ignored him - he will rush back to statehouse.

I am hoping we will hear more about SGR and PPP - the billions he has made.

He will end up with a tattered legacy - because once the gloves are off - he will realize being lameduck PORK exiting 3 months - nobody gives a damn

This is where he will be seriously exposed his soft underbelly will be poked.. what will gatheca tell Merus for example?? Ataambia waembu nini pia,unless he will sell him in Kiambu no problem but Nyeri and Muranga hakuna kitu atawambia pia.
Title: Re: Uhuru serously backing Raila and to try to undo Ruto work in few weeks
Post by: RV Pundit on January 30, 2022, 01:03:41 PM
Yes it's beyond stupid ; so many of us are struggling with that level of stupidity and recklessness. Unlike Moi who secured himself a deal with Kibaki - Kenyattas and Mois are basically exposing themselves for a rout - Ruto will win and proceed to crush their business. Raila will do the same if somehow he can win (impossibility now)

It's unbelievable recklessness. It's irrational.

Unless it's a Machiavellian move to damage Raila with project tag.

The audacity! We shall see the impact soon?

Look like he is ready to go down with Raila the same way Moi went with him 20yrs ago.

I expect KANU's Gideon Moi to quit OKA

Will Kalonzo run with Martha? or Jimmy? Or will he also join Azimio
Yes he is seriously backing Raila. Meanwhile you and your brigade ....
Title: Re: Uhuru serously backing Raila and to try to undo Ruto work in few weeks
Post by: audacityofhope on January 30, 2022, 02:28:56 PM
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Title: Re: Uhuru serously backing Raila and to try to undo Ruto work in few weeks
Post by: Nowayhaha on January 30, 2022, 02:35:43 PM
Uhuru has 30% influence in Kiambu , forget the rest of Mt Kenya counties. Ruto needs to focus his energy in Kiambu as it has substantial number of Voters(e.g. whole of Coast Province) . If need be let him get his running mate from Kiambu.
Title: Re: Uhuru serously backing Raila and to try to undo Ruto work in few weeks
Post by: RV Pundit on January 30, 2022, 03:11:46 PM
You need an excel so you can play with scenarios. Right now in my MOASS Ruto is at 55 percent - with Kiambu at 65 percent. If I put Ruto votes in Kiambu to Zero - Ruto drops to 52 percent. In short Kiambu total votes is expected to be 3% (total cast votes of about 900k with turnout dropping 10 percent to 70 percent - I think Uhuru got 1.2M with high turneout)

it's NOT worthy putting a DPORK there - when Ruto is already dealing with bigger monster of two tribes propaganda.

So if Uhuru works really hard - he will get 35 percent - this already factored in MOAS - we have even given him 35 percent of Kiambu, Muranga, all kikuyu counties plus Meru - and still Ruto is at 55 nationally.

Even if a miracle was to happen - and Uhuru really worked hard in central kenya - outside in diaspora and mt kenya east he will see fire - Ruto will only lose if gets 25 percent and Raila get 75 percent :) :)  -- hapo Ruto will be at 49 percent - and Raila will win with help of Kalonzo


For me the best running mate is
1) Gachagua - he can go head to head with Uhuru but he comes from Nyeri.
2) Alice Wahome - ticks many boxes - she is a fighter - she is a woman - and if Raila picks Muranga - chance of Muranga (who feel their chance is now) - voting for him are high.

Only problem with Alice - Mt kenya might see that Ruto has picked a weak woman so he can dominate them.

Gachagua is seen as corrupt - that double down on corruption tag that Ruto already is grappling with.

But politics concede nothing - and Gachagua really want it - so he will likely get it.

Next few weeks is critical - because Ruto will not want to engage Uhuru in direct confrontation - he will need fearless Mt kenya leaders like Gachagua and Wahome to go head to head with Uhuru - and whoever emerges as Uhuru biggest attack dog WINS.

Uhuru has 30% influence in Kiambu , forget the rest of Mt Kenya counties. Ruto needs to focus his energy in Kiambu as it has substantial number of Voters(e.g. whole of Coast Province) . If need be let him get his running mate from Kiambu.
Title: Re: Uhuru serously backing Raila and to try to undo Ruto work in few weeks
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on January 30, 2022, 04:55:57 PM
You need an excel so you can play with scenarios. Right now in my MOASS Ruto is at 55 percent - with Kiambu at 65 percent. If I put Ruto votes in Kiambu to Zero - Ruto drops to 52 percent. In short Kiambu total votes is expected to be 3% (total cast votes of about 900k with turnout dropping 10 percent to 70 percent - I think Uhuru got 1.2M with high turneout)

it's NOT worthy putting a DPORK there - when Ruto is already dealing with bigger monster of two tribes propaganda.

So if Uhuru works really hard - he will get 35 percent - this already factored in MOAS - we have even given him 35 percent of Kiambu, Muranga, all kikuyu counties plus Meru - and still Ruto is at 55 nationally.

Even if a miracle was to happen - and Uhuru really worked hard in central kenya - outside in diaspora and mt kenya east he will see fire - Ruto will only lose if gets 25 percent and Raila get 75 percent :) :)  -- hapo Ruto will be at 49 percent - and Raila will win with help of Kalonzo


For me the best running mate is
1) Gachagua - he can go head to head with Uhuru but he comes from Nyeri.
2) Alice Wahome - ticks many boxes - she is a fighter - she is a woman - and if Raila picks Muranga - chance of Muranga (who feel their chance is now) - voting for him are high.

Only problem with Alice - Mt kenya might see that Ruto has picked a weak woman so he can dominate them.

Gachagua is seen as corrupt - that double down on corruption tag that Ruto already is grappling with.

But politics concede nothing - and Gachagua really want it - so he will likely get it.

Next few weeks is critical - because Ruto will not want to engage Uhuru in direct confrontation - he will need fearless Mt kenya leaders like Gachagua and Wahome to go head to head with Uhuru - and whoever emerges as Uhuru biggest attack dog WINS.

Uhuru has 30% influence in Kiambu , forget the rest of Mt Kenya counties. Ruto needs to focus his energy in Kiambu as it has substantial number of Voters(e.g. whole of Coast Province) . If need be let him get his running mate from Kiambu.
So now Noway said the same thing that gatheca has 30% and you said if he works hard he will get 35%,why go to writing full compositions on the same. Ajabu  :o
Title: Re: Uhuru serously backing Raila and to try to undo Ruto work in few weeks
Post by: RV Pundit on January 30, 2022, 05:12:01 PM
He made a second premise from a point of ignorance. That Ruto should be worried about 30 percent of Kiambu. I simply told him - even when we factor 35 percent - Ruto is winning at 55 percent nationally - so the premise that Ruto need DPORK from Kiambu is false. Secondly how is that even feasible - to have a Kiambu PORK replaced by Kiambu DPORK. Already Ruto is struggling with Two Tribes Propaganda.

Please use your brain to the maximum....the small one you have..and grow some cojones so you dont have to tag along Nowayaha - Meru shamba boy.

So now Noway said the same thing that gatheca has 30% and you said if he works hard he will get 35%,why go to writing full compositions on the same. Ajabu  :o
Title: Re: Uhuru serously backing Raila and to try to undo Ruto work in few weeks
Post by: Nowayhaha on January 30, 2022, 05:19:53 PM
Thats the difference between us. RV is the caliber of Robina.

You need an excel so you can play with scenarios. Right now in my MOASS Ruto is at 55 percent - with Kiambu at 65 percent. If I put Ruto votes in Kiambu to Zero - Ruto drops to 52 percent. In short Kiambu total votes is expected to be 3% (total cast votes of about 900k with turnout dropping 10 percent to 70 percent - I think Uhuru got 1.2M with high turneout)

it's NOT worthy putting a DPORK there - when Ruto is already dealing with bigger monster of two tribes propaganda.

So if Uhuru works really hard - he will get 35 percent - this already factored in MOAS - we have even given him 35 percent of Kiambu, Muranga, all kikuyu counties plus Meru - and still Ruto is at 55 nationally.

Even if a miracle was to happen - and Uhuru really worked hard in central kenya - outside in diaspora and mt kenya east he will see fire - Ruto will only lose if gets 25 percent and Raila get 75 percent :) :)  -- hapo Ruto will be at 49 percent - and Raila will win with help of Kalonzo


For me the best running mate is
1) Gachagua - he can go head to head with Uhuru but he comes from Nyeri.
2) Alice Wahome - ticks many boxes - she is a fighter - she is a woman - and if Raila picks Muranga - chance of Muranga (who feel their chance is now) - voting for him are high.

Only problem with Alice - Mt kenya might see that Ruto has picked a weak woman so he can dominate them.

Gachagua is seen as corrupt - that double down on corruption tag that Ruto already is grappling with.

But politics concede nothing - and Gachagua really want it - so he will likely get it.

Next few weeks is critical - because Ruto will not want to engage Uhuru in direct confrontation - he will need fearless Mt kenya leaders like Gachagua and Wahome to go head to head with Uhuru - and whoever emerges as Uhuru biggest attack dog WINS.

Uhuru has 30% influence in Kiambu , forget the rest of Mt Kenya counties. Ruto needs to focus his energy in Kiambu as it has substantial number of Voters(e.g. whole of Coast Province) . If need be let him get his running mate from Kiambu.
So now Noway said the same thing that gatheca has 30% and you said if he works hard he will get 35%,why go to writing full compositions on the same. Ajabu  :o
Title: Re: Uhuru serously backing Raila and to try to undo Ruto work in few weeks
Post by: Nowayhaha on January 30, 2022, 05:32:14 PM

30% of Kiambu is almost 400K Votes . Surpasing 28 Kenyan counties. Moi was not stupid picking Uhuru in 2002.
But wewe na ujuaji and competition which is your weakness dont want to agree with the inevitable.
Reason I place Njuri higher than you is because he can see things clearly. You Omollo and Robina go through a longer thinking process. To be honest with you A politician like Ruto would never keep you close you would distract him from the ultimate goal.

He made a second premise from a point of ignorance. That Ruto should be worried about 30 percent of Kiambu. I simply told him - even when we factor 35 percent - Ruto is winning at 55 percent nationally - so the premise that Ruto need DPORK from Kiambu is false. Secondly how is that even feasible - to have a Kiambu PORK replaced by Kiambu DPORK. Already Ruto is struggling with Two Tribes Propaganda.

Please use your brain to the maximum....the small one you have..and grow some cojones so you dont have to tag along Nowayaha - Meru shamba boy.

So now Noway said the same thing that gatheca has 30% and you said if he works hard he will get 35%,why go to writing full compositions on the same. Ajabu  :o
Title: Re: Uhuru serously backing Raila and to try to undo Ruto work in few weeks
Post by: RV Pundit on January 30, 2022, 06:03:17 PM
I would be very worried if both of you known fools ranked me highly.
You need to learn to have 360 view of things.
Dont be tunnel visioned..
That is why I take time to elaborate both side of the coin.
Uhuru got 900k in Kiambu - (I think repeat he got 1.1M) - polling at 85 percent or about
That is almost - 11 percent of Uhuru total votes - a lot of votes no doubt.
But it also come with excess baggage - picking DPORK from Kiambu to replace Uhuru would be crazy!!!!!
When Ruto is already struggling with Kalenjin Kikuyu ping pong - which the real issues that UDA is struggling with.
Raila of course cannot say it - because he is courting the GEMA - but it's the top reason why some people will not vote for Ruto.
Out there - remain 90 percent of the vote.
You dont want to mess up with national vote for small county vote - give Raila that 400K - let say half of Kiambu - and Ruto will gain more from outside...Kakamega and Bungoma for example...are equally huge.
Ruto of course is brilliant like me and listen to reason.
That is why empty debe like Moses Kuria has been ignored.
30% of Kiambu is almost 400K Votes . Surpasing 28 Kenyan counties. Moi was not stupid picking Uhuru in 2002.
But wewe na ujuaji and competition which is your weakness dont want to agree with the inevitable.
Reason I place Njuri higher than you is because he can see things clearly. You Omollo and Robina go through a longer thinking process. To be honest with you A politician like Ruto would never keep you close you would distract him from the ultimate goal.
Title: Re: Uhuru serously backing Raila and to try to undo Ruto work in few weeks
Post by: RV Pundit on January 30, 2022, 06:08:57 PM
Nowayaha, you really wished anybody could take  your drug dealer friend KABOGO :) seriously

That one is gone. He cannot win Kiambu. He is KAPUT because he has played so many moves people have lost confidence on him.

People are looking for steady leadership.

Not a drug dealer who has started consuming his own supply and is erratic like Ukambani rainfall.

2022 - he is done - no kiambu governorship as Jungle is very popular in lower kiambu - and no national seat :) in his Tujibebe ma Fala party
Title: Re: Uhuru serously backing Raila and to try to undo Ruto work in few weeks
Post by: Nowayhaha on January 30, 2022, 06:24:28 PM
I hate Kabogo, Im from Mombasa, His bro Mburu in the 90s was one of the reason we never enjoyed our Youth.
I was against him in 2002 when he stood with Sisi kwa Sisi. He defeated Ndichus Un cle (The Twins you hate). I was against him in the by election against Thuo and as governor in 2013 I even supported the current governor. I dont know why you link him with me.

Nowayaha, you really wished anybody could take  your drug dealer friend KABOGO :) seriously

That one is gone. He cannot win Kiambu. He is KAPUT because he has played so many moves people have lost confidence on him.

People are looking for steady leadership.

Not a drug dealer who has started consuming his own supply and is erratic like Ukambani rainfall.

2022 - he is done - no kiambu governorship as Jungle is very popular in lower kiambu - and no national seat :) in his Tujibebe ma Fala party
Title: Re: Uhuru serously backing Raila and to try to undo Ruto work in few weeks
Post by: audacityofhope on January 30, 2022, 06:54:34 PM
Tangatanga adherents on Nipate.com fighting among themselves. No different from Khalwale and Malala in this video:

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Title: Re: Uhuru serously backing Raila and to try to undo Ruto work in few weeks
Post by: RV Pundit on January 30, 2022, 08:11:42 PM
Maybe he knows Kalonzo will sign in - then 70 percent is real possibility. Muthama, Wanjigi and Kilonzo Junior are working on Kalonzo - but Ngilu is also pleading daily for him to go to Baba - and of course Gideon & Uhuru.

Tangatanga adherents on Nipate.com fighting among themselves. No different from Khalwale and Malala in this video:

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Title: Re: Uhuru serously backing Raila and to try to undo Ruto work in few weeks
Post by: GeeMail on January 30, 2022, 08:56:13 PM
Ooo, when did he change? I thought you told us he was playing him nyatiti.
Title: Re: Uhuru serously backing Raila and to try to undo Ruto work in few weeks
Post by: RV Pundit on January 30, 2022, 09:08:28 PM
I see Ruto has started to attack him directly - that mean their relationship is damaged beyond repair.
Ooo, when did he change? I thought you told us he was playing him nyatiti.
Title: Re: Uhuru serously backing Raila and to try to undo Ruto work in few weeks
Post by: lelewela on January 30, 2022, 11:13:36 PM
Uhuru is lazy and drunk , he cannot plan nor mount any campaign. Lameduck!
Title: Re: Uhuru serously backing Raila and to try to undo Ruto work in few weeks
Post by: audacityofhope on January 31, 2022, 02:02:57 AM
It has taken you until Jan 30th, 2022 for you and your Moass to figure that out? So will the percentages move as a consequence?
I see Ruto has started to attack him directly - that mean their relationship is damaged beyond repair.
Ooo, when did he change? I thought you told us he was playing him nyatiti.
Title: Re: Uhuru serously backing Raila and to try to undo Ruto work in few weeks
Post by: RV Pundit on January 31, 2022, 04:44:35 AM
We shall see - I had already factored that. Raila is doing 35 percent of Central counties+Meru in MOASS. That is almost twice what some opinion pollsters have him. So MOAS did factor Uhuru playing this out.

Unless you'd like us to move Raila to 50 percent :) of Mt kenya - remember everytime I move him 5 percent - he gains 1 percent nationally -  Ruto right now is at 55 percent - he can afford to lose 4 percent - that go 45 percent in Central to Raila 55 percent - or even 40 percent :) in Central+Meru.

It has taken you until Jan 30th, 2022 for you and your Moass to figure that out? So will the percentages move as a consequence?
Title: Re: Uhuru serously backing Raila and to try to undo Ruto work in few weeks
Post by: Nowayhaha on January 31, 2022, 07:13:00 AM

Your maths is upside down. You are talking of 90%  as if its up for grabs. In that 90 % 40 % is guaranteed for Raila if Kalonzo supports him. The battle as you can see is between that 10 % which Raila thinks he can get from Mt Kenya . 400K votes will be like 4 %  of the votes . Thats a substatial figure .I told you more than 28 Counties. Which is more than a half of all total counties.
You seem to deceive yourself Ruto can win without Mt Kenya . Fact is he cant. He needs to work hard to get bigger curve in Mt Kenya.
However unlike you Ruto is a smart and practical politicians si mambo ya excell . He was in Kiambu again yesterday. By the time elections come Kiambu will be his most visited county.Take this to the bank.

I would be very worried if both of you known fools ranked me highly.
You need to learn to have 360 view of things.
Dont be tunnel visioned..
That is why I take time to elaborate both side of the coin.
Uhuru got 900k in Kiambu - (I think repeat he got 1.1M) - polling at 85 percent or about
That is almost - 11 percent of Uhuru total votes - a lot of votes no doubt.
But it also come with excess baggage - picking DPORK from Kiambu to replace Uhuru would be crazy!!!!!
When Ruto is already struggling with Kalenjin Kikuyu ping pong - which the real issues that UDA is struggling with.
Raila of course cannot say it - because he is courting the GEMA - but it's the top reason why some people will not vote for Ruto.
Out there - remain 90 percent of the vote.
You dont want to mess up with national vote for small county vote - give Raila that 400K - let say half of Kiambu - and Ruto will gain more from outside...Kakamega and Bungoma for example...are equally huge.
Ruto of course is brilliant like me and listen to reason.
That is why empty debe like Moses Kuria has been ignored.
30% of Kiambu is almost 400K Votes . Surpasing 28 Kenyan counties. Moi was not stupid picking Uhuru in 2002.
But wewe na ujuaji and competition which is your weakness dont want to agree with the inevitable.
Reason I place Njuri higher than you is because he can see things clearly. You Omollo and Robina go through a longer thinking process. To be honest with you A politician like Ruto would never keep you close you would distract him from the ultimate goal.
Title: Re: Uhuru serously backing Raila and to try to undo Ruto work in few weeks
Post by: Nowayhaha on January 31, 2022, 07:15:24 AM

Reason is because Ruto has already won. This like 1997 elections is the most boring. RV should expect more friendly fires especially if Kalonzo runs alone the way seems to go or if he joins Ruto.
Tangatanga adherents on Nipate.com fighting among themselves. No different from Khalwale and Malala in this video:

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Title: Re: Uhuru serously backing Raila and to try to undo Ruto work in few weeks
Post by: Nowayhaha on January 31, 2022, 07:17:02 AM
The more I listen to Wanjigi the more I feel he is on Rutos side . Thiw guy is on a mission. It will be clear as we approach elections.

Maybe he knows Kalonzo will sign in - then 70 percent is real possibility. Muthama, Wanjigi and Kilonzo Junior are working on Kalonzo - but Ngilu is also pleading daily for him to go to Baba - and of course Gideon & Uhuru.

Tangatanga adherents on Nipate.com fighting among themselves. No different from Khalwale and Malala in this video:

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Title: Re: Uhuru serously backing Raila and to try to undo Ruto work in few weeks
Post by: Nowayhaha on January 31, 2022, 07:20:12 AM

Mudavadi attack on Uhuru resonated well on both sides of divide.
However I would be cautious , I would let Mt Kenyans , Weta and Mudavaei attack Uhuru as Ruto attacks Raila. His main opponent is Raila. Ruto is being supported by Anti Raila electorate. His focus should be there.
I see Ruto has started to attack him directly - that mean their relationship is damaged beyond repair.
Ooo, when did he change? I thought you told us he was playing him nyatiti.
Title: Re: Uhuru serously backing Raila and to try to undo Ruto work in few weeks
Post by: RV Pundit on January 31, 2022, 09:05:49 AM
You need an excel so when we are talking - you run these scenarios.
Ruto right now is at 55 percent - after big boost from maDVD+Weta.
He is at 65 percent in my MOASS - in central proper plus meru (I expect Uhuru and company to put up a dog fight) - doing great in embu and tharaka - and amongst diaspora kikuyus.
Now for Ruto to lose 5 percent - of the national vot - he would basically have to move 25 percent down - that is 40 percent
That will make him at 50 percent.

Raila at that point will move to 42 percent and would need Kalonzo.

Your maths is upside down. You are talking of 90%  as if its up for grabs. In that 90 % 40 % is guaranteed for Raila if Kalonzo supports him. The battle as you can see is between that 10 % which Raila thinks he can get from Mt Kenya . 400K votes will be like 4 %  of the votes . Thats a substatial figure .I told you more than 28 Counties. Which is more than a half of all total counties.
You seem to deceive yourself Ruto can win without Mt Kenya . Fact is he cant. He needs to work hard to get bigger curve in Mt Kenya.
However unlike you Ruto is a smart and practical politicians si mambo ya excell . He was in Kiambu again yesterday. By the time elections come Kiambu will be his most visited county.Take this to the bank.
Title: Re: Uhuru serously backing Raila and to try to undo Ruto work in few weeks
Post by: RV Pundit on January 31, 2022, 09:08:06 AM
He need to float baloons - attack him and see how it goes.
Obviously Uhuru has nothing to lose.
But he is also very unpopular.
COVID and oil hike has made life difficult for many
I'd say for now - Ruto need bi-weekly polling and focus group in Mt kenya - to know how his moves are resonating or not.


Mudavadi attack on Uhuru resonated well on both sides of divide.
However I would be cautious , I would let Mt Kenyans , Weta and Mudavaei attack Uhuru as Ruto attacks Raila. His main opponent is Raila. Ruto is being supported by Anti Raila electorate. His focus should be there.
I see Ruto has started to attack him directly - that mean their relationship is damaged beyond repair.
Ooo, when did he change? I thought you told us he was playing him nyatiti.
Title: Re: Uhuru serously backing Raila and to try to undo Ruto work in few weeks
Post by: Nowayhaha on January 31, 2022, 09:21:58 AM

I Mean its wasting energy. Uhuru himself when he opens his mouth makes people hate him more. Raila is also doing a good job dwcamoaigning by saying he will continue from where he left.
With Mudavadi and Wetangula it comes out better because it looks legit.
For Mt Kenyan politicians it keeps Uhuru on the ropes he cant turn it into tribal.One thing with Kenyan politics an attack from an outsider is seen as an attack to a tribe. An insider is seen as saying the truth. Thats why Alfred Keter and that Transmara Mp were able to attack Ruto and still be liked during the first term.

He need to float baloons - attack him and see how it goes.
Obviously Uhuru has nothing to lose.
But he is also very unpopular.
COVID and oil hike has made life difficult for many
I'd say for now - Ruto need bi-weekly polling and focus group in Mt kenya - to know how his moves are resonating or not.


Mudavadi attack on Uhuru resonated well on both sides of divide.
However I would be cautious , I would let Mt Kenyans , Weta and Mudavaei attack Uhuru as Ruto attacks Raila. His main opponent is Raila. Ruto is being supported by Anti Raila electorate. His focus should be there.
I see Ruto has started to attack him directly - that mean their relationship is damaged beyond repair.
Ooo, when did he change? I thought you told us he was playing him nyatiti.
Title: Re: Uhuru serously backing Raila and to try to undo Ruto work in few weeks
Post by: RV Pundit on January 31, 2022, 09:30:24 AM
Agreed, he should attack him intelligently, by pitying him as victim of witchcraft:) - innocent boy turned mad - but full frontal attack from Rigathis to remind him he is a useless dynasty.

It's going to be hard for Ruto to wave on if Uhuru intend to attack him - he will have to respond.


I Mean its wasting energy. Uhuru himself when he opens his mouth makes people hate him more. Raila is also doing a good job dwcamoaigning by saying he will continue from where he left.
With Mudavadi and Wetangula it comes out better because it looks legit.
For Mt Kenyan politicians it keeps Uhuru on the ropes he cant turn it into tribal.One thing with Kenyan politics an attack from an outsider is seen as an attack to a tribe. An insider is seen as saying the truth. Thats why Alfred Keter and that Transmara Mp were able to attack Ruto and still be liked during the first term.

Title: Re: Uhuru serously backing Raila and to try to undo Ruto work in few weeks
Post by: audacityofhope on January 31, 2022, 02:06:04 PM
Agreed, he should attack him intelligently, by pitying him as victim of witchcraft:) - innocent boy turned mad - but full frontal attack from Rigathis to remind him he is a useless dynasty.

It's going to be hard for Ruto to wave on if Uhuru intend to attack him - he will have to respond.


I Mean its wasting energy. Uhuru himself when he opens his mouth makes people hate him more. Raila is also doing a good job dwcamoaigning by saying he will continue from where he left.
With Mudavadi and Wetangula it comes out better because it looks legit.
For Mt Kenyan politicians it keeps Uhuru on the ropes he cant turn it into tribal.One thing with Kenyan politics an attack from an outsider is seen as an attack to a tribe. An insider is seen as saying the truth. Thats why Alfred Keter and that Transmara Mp were able to attack Ruto and still be liked during the first term.

Dynasty?
A man who was at the high table dining with Nyayo and Biwot them days still calls himself a hustler and broke arses actually bought into it?
Title: Re: Uhuru serously backing Raila and to try to undo Ruto work in few weeks
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on January 31, 2022, 03:10:42 PM
He made a second premise from a point of ignorance. That Ruto should be worried about 30 percent of Kiambu. I simply told him - even when we factor 35 percent - Ruto is winning at 55 percent nationally - so the premise that Ruto need DPORK from Kiambu is false. Secondly how is that even feasible - to have a Kiambu PORK replaced by Kiambu DPORK. Already Ruto is struggling with Two Tribes Propaganda.

Please use your brain to the maximum....the small one you have..and grow some cojones so you dont have to tag along Nowayaha - Meru shamba boy.

So now Noway said the same thing that gatheca has 30% and you said if he works hard he will get 35%,why go to writing full compositions on the same. Ajabu  :o
Punda pundit you sinking to drinking local brew changaa. Wacha emotions sijui nini. Be objective like i always say,you can write long inshas but we can write just a sentence to express same point.
Am disappointed in your grade A You got from Moi university,I think you should have done a course In tailoring or something that doesn't need 3d indepth thinking.possibly you would have been a successful goat herder who knows :D soot head
Title: Re: Uhuru serously backing Raila and to try to undo Ruto work in few weeks
Post by: GeeMail on January 31, 2022, 08:40:41 PM

I Mean its wasting energy. Uhuru himself when he opens his mouth makes people hate him more.

Raila is also doing a good job dwcamoaigning by saying he will continue from where he left.
With Mudavadi and Wetangula it comes out better because it looks legit.
For Mt Kenyan politicians it keeps Uhuru on the ropes he cant turn it into tribal.One thing with Kenyan politics an attack from an outsider is seen as an attack to a tribe. An insider is seen as saying the truth. Thats why Alfred Keter and that Transmara Mp were able to attack Ruto and still be liked during the first term.

He need to float baloons - attack him and see how it goes.
Obviously Uhuru has nothing to lose.
But he is also very unpopular.
COVID and oil hike has made life difficult for many
I'd say for now - Ruto need bi-weekly polling and focus group in Mt kenya - to know how his moves are resonating or not.


Mudavadi attack on Uhuru resonated well on both sides of divide.
However I would be cautious , I would let Mt Kenyans , Weta and Mudavaei attack Uhuru as Ruto attacks Raila. His main opponent is Raila. Ruto is being supported by Anti Raila electorate. His focus should be there.
I see Ruto has started to attack him directly - that mean their relationship is damaged beyond repair.
Ooo, when did he change? I thought you told us he was playing him nyatiti.

https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/politics/article/2001429792/dp-william-ruto-what-ill-do-to-revamp-big-four-agenda

DP William Ruto: What I'll do to revamp Big Four agenda
POLITICS
By Winfrey Owino | November 21st 2021

Deputy President William Ruto during a church service at Saba Saba PCEA church.

Deputy President William Ruto has promised to set aside Sh100 billion for the implementation of the Big Four Agenda if elected president next year.

The DP made the comments while on a tour of Saba Saba, Murang’a County, where he addressed residents shortly after a church service at Saba Saba PCEA.


Ruto said the implementation of the Big Four agenda that he and President Uhuru Kenyatta came up with stalled because of the March 9, 2018 handshake.