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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Nowayhaha on October 24, 2021, 08:44:58 PM
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Mombasa
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Changamwe 9,366 17,706
Kisauni 17,946 42,705
Likoni 6,243 18,934
Mvita 8,247 22,425
Total 41,803 101,770
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Kwale
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Msambweni 13,746 26,440
Matuga 8,348 17,322
Kinango 15,349 16,553
Total 37,443 60,315
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Kilifi
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Bahari 8,988 35,728
Kaloleni 16,879 21,716
Ganze 4,808 19,023
Malindi 8,444 24,768
Magarini 8,493 13,826
Total 47,612 115,061
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Tana River
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Garsen 10,082 10,790
Galole 6,062 7,760
Bura 8,968 3,593
Total 25,112 22,143
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Lamu
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Lamu East 2,825 6,119
Lamu West 12,910 9,568
Total 15,735 15,687
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Taita Taveta
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Taveta 7,777 5,610
Wundanyi 4,651 12,192
Mwatate 6,791 10,958
Voi 10,431 10,037
Total 29,650 33,747
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Garissa
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Dujis 9,134 11,046
Lagdera 9,414 7,058
Fafi 4,832 4,305
Ijara 5,938 4,451
Total 29,318 26,860
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Wajir
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Wajir North 5,244 4,988
Wajir West 11,961 6,853
Wajir East 6,522 9,146
Wajir South 6,457 12,020
Total 30,184 33,007
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Just do comparison with 2013...which is more credible election.2007 it was open majimbo talk...so you can expect Uhuru did better.Kibaki rigged boss.. brazenly and violently
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Mandera West
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Mandera West 7,857 8,585
Mandera Central 18,599 11,170
Mandera East 11,305 11.818
Total 37,761 31,573
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In 2013... Uhuru despite Ruto efforts ..did like 20 percent of many areas of coast ..now imagine majimbo 2007.
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Mandera West
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Mandera West 7,857 8,585
Mandera Central 18,599 11,170
Mandera East 11,305 11.818
Total 37,761 31,573
rigged completely
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I did moass..I studied keenly the issues .the movers ..kibaki rigged massively.2007 was rigged massively and brazenly
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Marsabit
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Moyale 12,325 10,803
North Horr 7,251 9,009
Saku 7,124 5,682
Laisamis 9,625 7,682
Total 36,325 33,176
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It was crude rigging that even MOI felt ashamed.. kidnapping retiring officers and changing figures.it was bloody coup.This is why we have cok 2010 and the iebc has introduced serious reforms
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Marsabit
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Moyale 12,325 10,803
North Horr 7,251 9,009
Saku 7,124 5,682
Laisamis 9,625 7,682
Total 36,325 33,176
more time wasting bonobism..these figures have been examined..they are unnatural..they are rigged...you see if figures are derived naturally..and you generate figures..human mind will generate sequence that is predictable
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Isiolo
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Isiolo North 15,176 12,120
Isiolo South 7,225 3,838
Total 22,401 15,958
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Nowayaha..get a pen...guess numbers..they will never be random...even computer randomising function can never generate truly random numbers..but natural process generate truly random numbers.Youre likely to repeat some numbers..when cooking numbers than if they occur naturally.2007 were rigged... simple foresnic analysis can tell you the numbers are human generated..Read about true random numbers.Computer can generate pseudo random number but human brain will find himself repeating pattern...for truly random numbers occurs naturally
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Relax boss , We will come there . Whats with all this anxiety .......
Nowayaha..get a pen...guess numbers..they will never be random...even computer randomising function can never generate truly random numbers..but natural process generate truly random numbers.Youre likely to repeat some numbers..when cooking numbers than if they occur naturally.2007 were rigged... simple foresnic analysis can tell you the numbers are human generated..Read about true random numbers.Computer can generate pseudo random number but human brain will find himself repeating pattern...for truly random numbers occurs naturally
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Meru
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Igembe South 60,010 2,114
Igembe North 47,749 1,923
Tigania West 37,688 771
Tigania East 44,032 1,321
North Imenti xx,xxx x,xxx
Central Imenti 43,410 1,108
South Imenti 75,441 2,268
Total xxx,xxx xx,xxx
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Tharaka Nithi
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Nithi 95,693 1,849
Tharaka 31,567 1,466
Total 127,260 3,315
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Embu
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Manyatta 57,765 1,287
Runyenjes 61,451 1,102
Gachoka 30,602 858
Siakago 29,945 385
Total 179,763 3,632
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Kitui ,
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Mwingi North 8,563 257
Mwingi South 4,132 319
Kitui West 3,971 396
Kitui Central 8,410 1,478
Mutito 5,328 214
Kitui South 3,549 129
Total 33,953 2,793
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Machakos
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Masinga 1,038 238
Yatta 4,594 417
Kangundo 7,570 773
Kathiani 7,997 6,466
Machakos 3,187 812
Mwala 6344 503
Total 30,730 8513
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Makueni
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Mbooni 3,923 392
Kilome 1,174 405
Kaiti 1,397 364
Makueni 7,170 628
Kibwezi 4,371 828
Total 18,035 2,617
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Nyandarua
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Kinangop 69,145 365
Kipipiri 36,094 245
Ol Kalou 76,998 419
Ndaragwa 39,995 325
Total 222,232 1,354
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Nyeri
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Tetu 42,258 142
Kieni 72.054 580
Mathira 80,024 562
Othaya 50,947 205
Mukurweini 47,210 107
Nyeri Town 51,727 1,118
Total 344,220 2,714
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Kirinyaga
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Mwea 62,374 313
Gichugu 61,414 717
Ndia 45,883 367
Kirinyaga Central 52,866 580
Total 222,537 1,977
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Muranga
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Mathioya 43,554 505
Kiharu 85,645 616
Kigumo 58,608 588
Maragwa 56,439 460
Kandara 70,443 295
Gatanga 67,957 699
Total 382,646 3,163
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Kiambu
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Gatundu South 52,480 425
Gatundu North 44,272 141
Juja 100,390 13,752
Githunguri 68,400 711
Kiambaa 82,261 3,104
Kikuyu 83,182 2,969
Limuru 48,389 2,934
Lari 49,276 457
Total 528,650 24,493
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Turkana
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Turkana North 14,638 5,386
Turkana Central 19,125 14,543
Turkana South 8,644 5,735
Total 42,407 25,664
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West Pokot
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Kacheliba 5,349 1,736
Kapenguria 3,276 34,966
Total 8,625 36,702
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Samburu
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Samburu West 5,608 28,242
Samburu East 2,908 8,078
Total 8,516 36,320
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Transnzoia
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Kwanza 20,785 17,601
Saboti 43,315 32,307
Cherangany 21,553 22,073
Total 85,653 71,981
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Eldoret
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Eldoret North 23,155 79,953
Eldoret East 12,818 59,169
Eldoret South 16,256 46,422
Total 52,229 185,544
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Elgeyo-Marakwet
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Marakwet East 2,972 19,921
Marakwet West 2,085 30,143
Keiyo North 953 26,085
Keiyo South 2,521 36,203
Total 8,531 112,352
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Nandi
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Mosop 1,749 47,865
Aldai 5,902 38,172
Emgwen 8,377 51,738
Tinderet 6,330 49,488
Total 22,358 187,263
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Baringo
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Baringo East 7,631 4,069
Baringo North 1,283 30,961
Baringo Central 3,069 43,544
Mogotio 1,812 20,660
Eldama Ravine 8,898 26,950
Total 22,693 126,184
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Laikipia
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Laikipia West 67,837 9,453
Laikipia East 46,044 9,776
Total 113,881 19,229
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Nakuru
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Naivasha 58,825 15,430
Nakuru Town 55,755 40,593
Kuresoi 19,146 50,470
Molo 75,261 23,268
Rongai 25,779 23,567
Subukia 64,995 2,596
Total 299.761 155,924
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Narok
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Kilgoris 8,461 22,350
Narok North 21,435 44,413
Narok South 11,620 48,896
Total 41,516 115,659
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Kajiado
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Kajiado North 49,038 25,330
Kajiado Central 12,978 26,618
Loitokitok 18,096 10,777
Total 80,112 62,725
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Bomet
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Bomet 2,434 61,994
Chepalungu 1,910 42,527
Sotik 1,513 53,111
Konoin 2,196 38,512
Belgut 3,083 58,688
Total 11.136 254,832
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Kericho
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Ainamoi 5,683 50,455
Kipkelion 11,851 52,189
Malava 14,712 19,891
Total 32,246 122,535
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Kakamega
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Malava 14,712 19,891
Lugari 21,479 42,097
Mumias 8,451 38,806
Matungu 5,230 27,487
Lurambi 16,899 38,926
Shinyalu 10,306 27,052
Ikolomani 8,290 19,422
Butere 4,279 30,041
Kwisero 3,752 21,556
Total 93,398 265,275
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Vuhiga
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Emuhaya 13,672 30,214
Sabatia 3,380 37,219
Vihiga 1,955 24,956
Hamisi 10,596 28,903
Total 29,603 121,292
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Bungoma
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Mt Elton. 8,648. 29,710
Kimilili. 35,787. 17,314
Webuye. 29,068. 19,249
Sirisia. 32,478. 13,241
Bumula. 23,636. 8,984
Total. 129,617. 88,498.
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Busia
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Amagoro. 6019. 51050
Nambale. 7979. 40315
Butula. 2384. 26519
Funyula. 9735. 17679
Budalangi. 7285. 12183
Total. 33402. 147,746
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Siaya
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Ugenya. 322. 62055
Alego. 174. 67621
Gem. 223. 47311
Bondo. 148. 53202
Rarienda. 736. 42195
Total. 1603. 272,384
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Kisumu
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Kisumu Town East 790. 43526
Kisumu Town West. 1738. 64078
Kisumu Rural. 406. 44129
Nyando. 138. 45,005
Muhoroni. 441. 40,544
Nyakach. 81. 43,353
Total. 3,594. 280,635.
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Homabay
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Kasipul-Kabondo. 179. 68631
Karachuonyo. 55. 59008
Rangwe. 61. 64458
Ndiwa. 85. 57380
Mbita. 98. 38,451
Gwassi. 183. 31605
Total. 661. 319,533
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Migori
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Rongo. 175. 60286
Migori. 1533. 51648
Uriri. 1381. 33661
Nyatike. 321. 48655
Kuria. 23,210. 19162
Total. 26,620. 213,412
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Kisii
Constituency. Kibaki. Raila.
Bonchari. 11299. 14840
South Mugirango 21097. 14061
Bomachoge. 26967. 18070
Bobasi 21464. 28070
Nyaribari Masaba. 19667. 12312
Nyaribari Chache. 19877. 15163
Kitutu Chache 21896. 26859
Total. 142,267. 129,375
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Nyamira
Constituency. Kibaki. Raila.
Kitutu Masaba. 29,470. 23471
West Mugirango. 26014. 17621
North Mugirango. 32398. 24548
Total. 87882. 65640
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Nairobi
Constituency. Kibaki. Raila.
Makadara. 36,278. 32,298
Kamukunji. xxxxx. xxxxxx
Starehe. 48135. 27,716
Langata. 22973. 66195
Dagoreti. 35,164. 19,065
Westlands. 35,182. 45,216
Kasarani. 63370. 48431
Emakasi. 72376. 50,001
TOTAL. 313,478. 288,922
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Uhuru doing better in Coast is akin Raila doing better in Mt Kenya. Mwah Kibaki beat Uhuru in 2002 overwhelmingly simply because of having the Kenyatta name. Uhuru in Coast for 2013 and 2017 was a poor candidate. He acknowledged that and reciprocated by giving them 0 CS post in 2nd term.
When we analyze and say Ruto will edge out Raila in Coast next year one of the reason is there is No Kenyatta name factor.
Just do comparison with 2013...which is more credible election.2007 it was open majimbo talk...so you can expect Uhuru did better.Kibaki rigged boss.. brazenly and violently
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So how come Kibaki floored him there in 2002 even with Mois support The real king of Majimbo ? Leave alone Ruto who killed Majimbo (Provinces)
In 2013... Uhuru despite Ruto efforts ..did like 20 percent of many areas of coast ..now imagine majimbo 2007.
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Then why go to the ballot if we have MOASS. Just email your excell sheet to Chebukati and that’s it let him announce the winner.
I did moass..I studied keenly the issues .the movers ..kibaki rigged massively.2007 was rigged massively and brazenly
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No difference between you and ODMers who like throwing the word rigging and sing rigging all through.
There is no way Raila could have beaten Kibaki without uniting with Kalonzo. NSIS knew that and even brought Kalonzo to Kibaki where they cut a deal and was given VP Post Pre or Post Election. He opted post election.
Same thing now There is no way Raila can defeat Ruto with Mt Kenya on Rutos side. I believe Raila has been briefed and it is the reason he is scaling the Mountain. Unfortunately he can’t undo what he built for the last 20 years. His only option is to Tosha someone.
It was crude rigging that even MOI felt ashamed.. kidnapping retiring officers and changing figures.it was bloody coup.This is why we have cok 2010 and the iebc has introduced serious reforms
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Kibaki WON against Raila in 26 Counties vs 21 Railas . If Kalonzo Counties are removed . Then it will be 23 Kibaki, 21 Raila and 3 Kalonzo.
This what ODMers don’t want people to hear . They try to focus on provinces and MPS Coz they know Province boundaries were skewed in favor of Colonialists and KADU pre independence and Kibaki made a mistake of accepting affiliate parties field candidates which divided the votes and ODM managed to squeeze themselves in . Funny enough ODM made same mistake in 2017 and paid dearly in Western and Ukambani where Jubilee got a substantial number of MPs .
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You can never rewrite history try as much..waste of time..kibaki rigged massively...every one saw it..first time in kenya observers refuse to give it clean bill.That is why Kenya went to war with 600k evicted
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Easy to throw the word rigging. Same word ODMers and Raila supporters have been using even in 2013 and 2017 and by extension in the upcomming 2022 elections.
P.E.V. happened because of Raila refusing to accept defeat and inciting the masses before during campaign and after . Almost a replica happened in 2017 only these time around the masses were enlightened and police force ready.
You can never rewrite history try as much..waste of time..kibaki rigged massively...every one saw it..first time in kenya observers refuse to give it clean bill.That is why Kenya went to war with 600k evicted
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No he rigged. He forced ROs to delay the results in his strongholds - got the number of top up he wanted - then ordered RO to alter the figures. This documented by the media, observers, agents and everyone with a brain.
Unfortunately you do not have any brain left - after taking too much drugs in Mombasa.
To call what Kibaki did rigging is even abuse of the word. Moi use to rig. Kibaki violently executed a coup that lead to death of many, eviction of 600k and huge destruction of property.
Easy to throw the word rigging. Same word ODMers and Raila supporters have been using even in 2013 and 2017 and by extension in the upcomming 2022 elections.
P.E.V. happened because of Raila refusing to accept defeat and inciting the masses before during campaign and after . Almost a replica happened in 2017 only these time around the masses were enlightened and police force ready.
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2013 results were also delayed. Do you also want to say 2013 elections were rigged.
The Media messed up 2007 election by relaying unverified results.
In 2013 results were delayed by more days in comparison to 2007.
The Premature releying of results by media houses before verification led to the belief by Odmers that they were winning election.
I have never in my life used drugs unlike you who binge drinks everyday. If it is about rigging all indicators show Raila is thenone who rigged. Its unscientific to have 96% voter turn out. but for you thats okei. Its always okei to you as long as it supports your views.
No he rigged. He forced ROs to delay the results in his strongholds - got the number of top up he wanted - then ordered RO to alter the figures. This documented by the media, observers, agents and everyone with a brain.
Unfortunately you do not have any brain left - after taking too much drugs in Mombasa.
To call what Kibaki did rigging is even abuse of the word. Moi use to rig. Kibaki violently executed a coup that lead to death of many, eviction of 600k and huge destruction of property.
Easy to throw the word rigging. Same word ODMers and Raila supporters have been using even in 2013 and 2017 and by extension in the upcomming 2022 elections.
P.E.V. happened because of Raila refusing to accept defeat and inciting the masses before during campaign and after . Almost a replica happened in 2017 only these time around the masses were enlightened and police force ready.
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Media houses had video evidence where RO announced results at constitutuency - and what was finally announced at KICC was totally different - nearly all corrections added Kibaki numbers - and reduced Raila numbers.
Observers also documented many such cases...and nearly all refused to give the elections a clean bill of health. All evidence they have shown Kibaki numbers inflated - Raila numbers deflated - from what they had observed at various tallying centers.
Party agents did the same.
Right at KICC - Martha Karua PNU appointed commisioners were also altering results in the guise of verification. This was first rigging - when Martha and Kibaki picked referees - something that even Moi didnt do in 1997.
The evidence of rigging is too overwhelmingly..
I am afraid if you do not use drugs - because then it mean your madness is more serious.
Turnout.
2013 was biometric based....in most places 98 percent of voters were identified by biometric...meaning they turned out to vote.
National turnout was 85 percent.
This was 2013 turnout for Luo Nyanza
SIAYA 92.47%
KISUMU 90.45%
HOMABAY 94.14%
MIGORI 92.02%
Do you think they rigged 2013 too? When Biometric identified the voters?
In 2007 - as part of my prediction for turnout - I did historical analysis since 1992 - and I came up with predicted turnout like see - because what I discovered was that historically Kalenjin and Luos turned out at very high rate - the third were kikuyus.
NYANZA PROV Reg Votes 05 % Turn Out(2005) Exp Turn Out
Mbita 31172 71.60% 83.600%
Bobasi 64861 40.90% 55.900%
Gwassi 28494 65.10% 80.100%
Kuria 49555 52.10% 57.100%
Nyatike 42245 89.10% 96.100%
Bomachoge 57997 39.50% 44.500%
Rongo 58942 77.50% 89.500%
Bonchari 34278 45.10% 50.100%
Nyaribari Masaba 46239 41.20% 46.200%
Nyaribari Chache 51460 39.00% 44.000%
Kitutu Chache 67900 42.00% 47.000%
Kitutu Masaba 65854 41.50% 46.500%
West Mugirango 55295 43.20% 48.200%
South Mugirango 47162 39.70% 44.700%
Rarieda 43718 58.10% 73.100%
Uriri 34187 80.80% 95.800%
Migori 52589 74.30% 89.300%
Ugenya 70162 54.10% 69.100%
Bondo 47928 59.30% 74.300%
Kisumu Town East 44248 53.50% 68.500%
Kisumu Town West 71477 45.70% 60.700%
Kisumu Rural 43012 58.30% 73.300%
Nyando 44712 68.00% 83.000%
Gem 51920 52.70% 67.700%
Nyakach 45704 67.30% 82.300%
Kasipul Kabondo 64355 72.30% 87.300%
Karachuonyo 52606 78.40% 93.400%
Rangwe 60453 66.60% 81.600%
Ndhiwa 51301 74.60% 89.600%
Muhoroni 48009 59.50% 74.500%
Alego 66481 59.10% 74.100%
1594316 70.035%
And it panned out exactly that way.
EXCEPT FOR KIBAKI STRONGHOLDS where MASSIVE BRAZEN RIGGING HAPPEN
2013 results were also delayed. Do you also want to say 2013 elections were rigged.
The Media messed up 2007 election by relaying unverified results.
In 2013 results were delayed by more days in comparison to 2007.
The Premature releying of results by media houses before verification led to the belief by Odmers that they were winning election.
I have never in my life used drugs unlike you who binge drinks everyday. If it is about rigging all indicators show Raila is thenone who rigged. Its unscientific to have 96% voter turn out. but for you thats okei. Its always okei to you as long as it supports your views.
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This use of sensational language...brazen rigging is what was used to justify violence. I challenged RV to do a side by side comparison of registered voters verses the election results and show the turnout percentages. You get a very different picture. I wish I had the time to do it like he does. Raila lost in so many non gema constituencies in luhyia, kisii and Turkana even myself I didn't know until I looked at the results. Now forget the big scary words and put up the numbers side by side then let everyone be the judge. Of course rigging occurred but it's not that hard to figure out what the truth might have looked like. Another interesting picture I saw was that in ODM areas outside Luo Nyanza Raila won but Kibaki still got a good chunk of the votes like at the Coast and Rv proper. Just pull those areas and confirm for yourself. Kibaki go 3k here 5k there which essentially neutralized those huge numbers in Luo Nyanza. The same happened in Ukambani where Kalonzo won with huge numbers but Kibaki would get several thousand votes. RV needs to remember the media was mostly hostile to Kibaki and had been for months so take their reporting not so seriously. Remember them parading a fake returning officer for was it Molo?
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How does turnout difference help you. I studied turnout in 2007 as it was one main contention I had with Prof Papaf (Namwamba); otherwise Kibaki brazenly rigged. All the rigging was documented by media houses, all the observers missions, etc.The dead give away was the delaying of GEMA stronghold results so they would know how much figures to alter.
2007 rigging started with Martha Karua unilaterally appointing ECK commissioners..leaving Kivuitu the lone man out.
Kivuitu severally claimed some ROS had gone missing or were not responding to calls or that he doesnt even know who won or lost.
The rigging was brazen.
The violence is squarely on Kibaki, Martha Karua and PNU guys like you. You caused it. Then responded by attempting to massacre poor Luos. You filled Kisumu morgues in two days. Kalenjin had to come to finish the war and rescue the the ingranate Raila odinga. He didnt even say thank you.
This use of sensational language...brazen rigging is what was used to justify violence. I challenged RV to do a side by side comparison of registered voters verses the election results and show the turnout percentages. You get a very different picture. I wish I had the time to do it like he does. Raila lost in so many non gema constituencies in luhyia, kisii and Turkana even myself I didn't know until I looked at the results. Now forget the big scary words and put up the numbers side by side then let everyone be the judge. Of course rigging occurred but it's not that hard to figure out what the truth might have looked like. Another interesting picture I saw was that in ODM areas outside Luo Nyanza Raila won but Kibaki still got a good chunk of the votes like at the Coast and Rv proper. Just pull those areas and confirm for yourself. Kibaki go 3k here 5k there which essentially neutralized those huge numbers in Luo Nyanza. The same happened in Ukambani where Kalonzo won with huge numbers but Kibaki would get several thousand votes. RV needs to remember the media was mostly hostile to Kibaki and had been for months so take their reporting not so seriously. Remember them parading a fake returning officer for was it Molo?
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Because it helps prove if rigging was that big. If turn out was 75% then is that really big or just normal. Now picture this... Raila lost Kwanza, sabotage, won Chera by less than 1000 votes, in Eldoret North kwa Ruto he got about 80k vs Kibaki 23k votes, Eldoret East he got 59k to Kibaki 12k, Eldoret South 46k vs 16k, Addai 38k vs 6k, Imgwen 51k vs 8k, Tinderbox 49k vs 6k, Baring East lost to Kibaki 7600 to 4k,Eldama Ravine Raila 26k vs 9k, Kuresoi 50k vs 19k, Kilgore 22k vs 8k, Narok North 44k vs 21k, Narok South 48k vs 12k, Kajiado North he lost 49k to 25k, won Kajiado Central 26k to 13k, Malava 19k to 14k, Lugari 42k to 21k, Mumbai 38k to 8k, Lurambi 38k vs 17k, Shinyalu 27k vs 10k ,Ikolomani 19k vs 8k, Emuhaya 30k vs 13k, Hamish 28k vs 10k, Mt Elgon 29k vs 8k, . He lost Kimilili 35k to 17k, lost Webuye 29k to 19k, lost Sirisia 32k to 13k, lost Bumula 23k to 9k . In Budalangi with Namwamba swearing by his name in parliament Raila 12k vs 7k for Kibaki, lost Kuria 23k vs 19k , Bonchari Raila 14k vs Kibaki 11k, lost South Mogirango 21k vs 14k, lost Bomachoge 26k to 18k , won Bobasi 28k vs 21k, lost Nyaribari Masaba 19k to 12k, lost Nyaribari Chache 19k vs 15k, won Kitutu Chache 26k vs 21k, lost Kitutu Masaba 29k vs 23k, lost West Mogirango 26k to 17k, lost North Mogirango Borabu 32kvs 24k.
Now if you drop any bias you can clearly see that words such as Raila had massive support everywhere as opposed to Kibaki central province only created a perception not born by reality. Railas win was a creation of the media hype for months leading to the election. Numbers speak for themselves sir. And one last thing....Kivuitu never said he didn't know who won. The question put to him in front of everyone was did Kibaki win in a fair election and he said He didn't know. Another of those media creations.
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it's easy - take 2005 referendum for yes - and those became Kibaki numbers. ODM - got it name literally from referendum - then Kalonzo took off with Kambas - and Uhuru-Moi family went PNU.
Response Votes %
Yes 2,532,918 41.65%
No 3,548,477 58.35%
Now if you take Kalonzo Kambas 9 percent from ODM - it becomes 50 percents - take Uhuru-Kanu maybe 2 percent - see Raila should have won by 46-48 percent.
Kibaki didnt do anything btw 2005 to 2007 to alter his fortunes...in fact 3 months to election he was still disorganized.
Eventually he resorted to using prov administration - chiefs and aps.
Any turnout by GEMA would be cancelled out by Luo+Kalenjin. The rest of kenya did not bother much with elections.
Kibaki rigged - brazenly
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/70/Kenya_Provinces_referendum_2005.svg/800px-Kenya_Provinces_referendum_2005.svg.png)
Because it helps prove if rigging was that big. If turn out was 75% then is that really big or just normal. Now picture this... Raila lost Kwanza, sabotage, won Chera by less than 1000 votes, in Eldoret North kwa Ruto he got about 80k vs Kibaki 23k votes, Eldoret East he got 59k to Kibaki 12k, Eldoret South 46k vs 16k, Addai 38k vs 6k, Imgwen 51k vs 8k, Tinderbox 49k vs 6k, Baring East lost to Kibaki 7600 to 4k,Eldama Ravine Raila 26k vs 9k, Kuresoi 50k vs 19k, Kilgore 22k vs 8k, Narok North 44k vs 21k, Narok South 48k vs 12k, Kajiado North he lost 49k to 25k, won Kajiado Central 26k to 13k, Malava 19k to 14k, Lugari 42k to 21k, Mumbai 38k to 8k, Lurambi 38k vs 17k, Shinyalu 27k vs 10k ,Ikolomani 19k vs 8k, Emuhaya 30k vs 13k, Hamish 28k vs 10k, Mt Elgon 29k vs 8k, . He lost Kimilili 35k to 17k, lost Webuye 29k to 19k, lost Sirisia 32k to 13k, lost Bumula 23k to 9k . In Budalangi with Namwamba swearing by his name in parliament Raila 12k vs 7k for Kibaki, lost Kuria 23k vs 19k , Bonchari Raila 14k vs Kibaki 11k, lost South Mogirango 21k vs 14k, lost Bomachoge 26k to 18k , won Bobasi 28k vs 21k, lost Nyaribari Masaba 19k to 12k, lost Nyaribari Chache 19k vs 15k, won Kitutu Chache 26k vs 21k, lost Kitutu Masaba 29k vs 23k, lost West Mogirango 26k to 17k, lost North Mogirango Borabu 32kvs 24k.
Now if you drop any bias you can clearly see that words such as Raila had massive support everywhere as opposed to Kibaki central province only created a perception not born by reality. Railas win was a creation of the media hype for months leading to the election. Numbers speak for themselves sir. And one last thing....Kivuitu never said he didn't know who won. The question put to him in front of everyone was did Kibaki win in a fair election and he said He didn't know. Another of those media creations.
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it's easy - take 2005 referendum for yes - and those became Kibaki numbers. ODM - got it name literally from referendum - then Kalonzo took off with Kambas - and Uhuru-Moi family went PNU.
Response Votes %
Yes 2,532,918 41.65%
No 3,548,477 58.35%
Now if you take Kalonzo Kambas 9 percent from ODM - it becomes 50 percents - take Uhuru-Kanu maybe 2 percent - see Raila should have won by 46-48 percent.
Kibaki didnt do anything btw 2005 to 2007 to alter his fortunes...in fact 3 months to election he was still disorganized.
Eventually he resorted to using prov administration - chiefs and aps.
Any turnout by GEMA would be cancelled out by Luo+Kalenjin. The rest of kenya did not bother much with elections.
Kibaki rigged - brazenly
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/70/Kenya_Provinces_referendum_2005.svg/800px-Kenya_Provinces_referendum_2005.svg.png)
Because it helps prove if rigging was that big. If turn out was 75% then is that really big or just normal. Now picture this... Raila lost Kwanza, sabotage, won Chera by less than 1000 votes, in Eldoret North kwa Ruto he got about 80k vs Kibaki 23k votes, Eldoret East he got 59k to Kibaki 12k, Eldoret South 46k vs 16k, Addai 38k vs 6k, Imgwen 51k vs 8k, Tinderbox 49k vs 6k, Baring East lost to Kibaki 7600 to 4k,Eldama Ravine Raila 26k vs 9k, Kuresoi 50k vs 19k, Kilgore 22k vs 8k, Narok North 44k vs 21k, Narok South 48k vs 12k, Kajiado North he lost 49k to 25k, won Kajiado Central 26k to 13k, Malava 19k to 14k, Lugari 42k to 21k, Mumbai 38k to 8k, Lurambi 38k vs 17k, Shinyalu 27k vs 10k ,Ikolomani 19k vs 8k, Emuhaya 30k vs 13k, Hamish 28k vs 10k, Mt Elgon 29k vs 8k, . He lost Kimilili 35k to 17k, lost Webuye 29k to 19k, lost Sirisia 32k to 13k, lost Bumula 23k to 9k . In Budalangi with Namwamba swearing by his name in parliament Raila 12k vs 7k for Kibaki, lost Kuria 23k vs 19k , Bonchari Raila 14k vs Kibaki 11k, lost South Mogirango 21k vs 14k, lost Bomachoge 26k to 18k , won Bobasi 28k vs 21k, lost Nyaribari Masaba 19k to 12k, lost Nyaribari Chache 19k vs 15k, won Kitutu Chache 26k vs 21k, lost Kitutu Masaba 29k vs 23k, lost West Mogirango 26k to 17k, lost North Mogirango Borabu 32kvs 24k.
Now if you drop any bias you can clearly see that words such as Raila had massive support everywhere as opposed to Kibaki central province only created a perception not born by reality. Railas win was a creation of the media hype for months leading to the election. Numbers speak for themselves sir. And one last thing....Kivuitu never said he didn't know who won. The question put to him in front of everyone was did Kibaki win in a fair election and he said He didn't know. Another of those media creations.
You are one stubborn guy. If 2020 US elections taught us one thing it is the fact that no country is immune to propaganda especially when very smart people like the Josh Hawleys were pushing the lies. For someone like you who is definitely smart to keep parroting lies even when evidence clearly shows the opposite to be true, now imagine the common villager with very little analytical skills. I told you and posted material to debunk that 2005 referendum myth. Remember the kadhi courts issue dividing the church was not there in 2007. Referendum was a totally different animal sir. Now are you claiming Kibaki rigged in all those areas I pointed out earlier. The truth is he sold with the help of the media and some western capitals starting wit London a monkey and unfortunately it caused chaos. He tried the same in 2013 and 2017 but this time there was no Rv with the warriors to enforce the lies. Watch him do the same in 2022. Are you not the one who basically proved the so called tyranny of numbers exists for real or you dont believe it yourself?
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Wacha bangi boss - Kadhi issues/abortion was in 2010 - Church in 2005 referendum were non issues. The main problem was Majimbo in Bomas draft. This led to assisination of Luo prof Mbai - who had found a middle ground btw federalism & decentralisation - and Kibaki running to Kilifi to draft his own constitution - with district as form of decentralizations - and present it to referendum.
2005-2007 central issues was Majimbo/Devolution - which GEMA opposed - and wanted decentralisations with district as the unit. Then second issue was parliamentary system with powerful PM.
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Wacha bangi boss - Kadhi issues/abortion was in 2010 - Church in 2005 referendum were non issues. The main problem was Majimbo in Bomas draft. This led to assisination of Luo prof Mbai - who had found a middle ground btw federalism & decentralisation - and Kibaki running to Kilifi to draft his own constitution - with district as form of decentralizations - and present it to referendum.
2005-2007 central issues was Majimbo/Devolution - which GEMA opposed - and wanted decentralisations with district as the unit. Then second issue was parliamentary system with powerful PM.
https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2005/december/2.20.html
https://opencommons.uconn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1166&context=econ_wpapers
Check on the above links
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tenous link.Talks about 2004 draft.Second has nothing on church. We were here. If you have memory lapses...you can relie on me.
https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2005/december/2.20.html
https://opencommons.uconn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1166&context=econ_wpapers
Check on the above links
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See how Kibaki got Yes votes - he really had almost no growth areas that would alter 2007 - hence the brazen rigging
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This map cannot be correct. No way Kibaki got 40-50% in Western region. Remember even his sitting VP Awori lost his parliamentary seat. Kibaki did not even get 25% of that region.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/70/Kenya_Provinces_referendum_2005.svg/800px-Kenya_Provinces_referendum_2005.svg.png)
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Ni ya referendum 2005.
This map cannot be correct. No way Kibaki got 40-50% in Western region. Remember even his sitting VP Awori lost his parliamentary seat. Kibaki did not even get 25% of that region.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/70/Kenya_Provinces_referendum_2005.svg/800px-Kenya_Provinces_referendum_2005.svg.png)
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This map cannot be correct. No way Kibaki got 40-50% in Western region. Remember even his sitting VP Awori lost his parliamentary seat. Kibaki did not even get 25% of that region.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/70/Kenya_Provinces_referendum_2005.svg/800px-Kenya_Provinces_referendum_2005.svg.png)
Exactly my earlier observation. A perception versus reality where folks were made to believe that Raila had overwhelming support everywhere while Kibaki had support only in Central. Now look at the results and pay attention to luhyia constituencies outside of maragoli areas plus bukusu dominated constituencies, kisii constituencies, coast and Turkana. Even in Rv proper Kibaki got thousands of votes. Take your time to analyse the figures for yourself. Dont buy the hype of big words...brazen, massive etc
https://aceproject.org/regions-en/countries-and-territories/KE/reports/Presidential_Results.pdf
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For him to have got 42 percent in 2005 referendum....he surely had to get votes outside MT kenya communities. In 2005 - he scored 37 percent in Luhya. He had very little scope to improve - apart from maybe in increasing turnout in mt kenya - but similarly kalenjiin+luos were going to match the turnout.
Exactly my earlier observation. A perception versus reality where folks were made to believe that Raila had overwhelming support everywhere while Kibaki had support only in Central. Now look at the results and pay attention to luhyia constituencies outside of maragoli areas plus bukusu dominated constituencies, kisii constituencies, coast and Turkana. Even in Rv proper Kibaki got thousands of votes. Take your time to analyse the figures for yourself. Dont buy the hype of big words...brazen, massive etc
https://aceproject.org/regions-en/countries-and-territories/KE/reports/Presidential_Results.pdf
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For him to have got 42 percent in 2005 referendum....he surely had to get votes outside MT kenya communities. In 2005 - he scored 37 percent in Luhya. He had very little scope to improve - apart from maybe in increasing turnout in mt kenya - but similarly kalenjiin+luos were going to match the turnout.
Exactly my earlier observation. A perception versus reality where folks were made to believe that Raila had overwhelming support everywhere while Kibaki had support only in Central. Now look at the results and pay attention to luhyia constituencies outside of maragoli areas plus bukusu dominated constituencies, kisii constituencies, coast and Turkana. Even in Rv proper Kibaki got thousands of votes. Take your time to analyse the figures for yourself. Dont buy the hype of big words...brazen, massive etc
https://aceproject.org/regions-en/countries-and-territories/KE/reports/Presidential_Results.pdf
I dont know why you keep using this 2005 referendum numbers.Now are you claiming Kibaki stole in all those areas outside his stronghold in 2007 includind deep in Rv where he was getting several thousand votes here and there? Rift valley gave Raila huge support but was not enough because it was cancelled out by the numbers by luhyias , kisii, kuria, turkana and some coastal constituencies. If you do a quick sample like I did earlier you can see the picture. Its like the US economy growing at 2% beating a smaller one growing at 10%. It is clear Raila left rift valley with a lot of support but not enough to cancel out the numbers in Central province, upper eastern and the larger gema diaspora .
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2005 was credible election. Nothing changed politically in 2yrs time. I have never said Kibaki rigged everywhere. I have also never said Kibaki had no support - my father was one of his greatest supporter. He mostly rigged in his strongholds - GEMA- and in remote areas like NEP/Turkanas - it was of course harder to rig in ODM strongholds of Luo+Luhya+Kalenjin.
The areas kibaki rigged are well known - and the figures inflated has been identified.
One good example is Molo Const. EU Observers noted Kibaki votes were inflated by almost 20k. In many parts of Mt kenya - inflation was 10-20k - you do that in 50 const....you're talking rigging 600k-800K votes.
Kibaki rigged brazenly. No amount of history rewritting will change that.
I dont know why you keep using this 2005 referendum numbers.Now are you claiming Kibaki stole in all those areas outside his stronghold in 2007 includind deep in Rv where he was getting several thousand votes here and there? Rift valley gave Raila huge support but was not enough because it was cancelled out by the numbers by luhyias , kisii, kuria, turkana and some coastal constituencies. If you do a quick sample like I did earlier you can see the picture. Its like the US economy growing at 2% beating a smaller one growing at 10%. It is clear Raila left rift valley with a lot of support but not enough to cancel out the numbers in Central province, upper eastern and the larger gema diaspora .
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Words versus numbers. List the areas you think Kibaki rigged complete with registered/ election results and turnout percentages we see. I was made to believe Juja was massively rigged until I saw a turnout of less than 75%. Now your claim of 20k here and there for 50 places looks really good on imagination but is it born by reality? The same argument can be made where Raila lost here and there plus Kibaki small margins in areas Raila worn comes to a million votes ama namna gani?
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This is from Landrover EU (some nonsense kweli)
EU Observers report.
Serious inconsistencies and anomalies were identified in various constituency results as
announced by the ECK. For example, in Molo (Rift Valley Province) and Kieni (Central
Province), there were significant differences between presidential election results reported by
EU EOM observers at the constituency level and the results announced by the ECK. In the
case of Molo the difference between the results announced by the Returning Officer as
completed on the 28 December and those announced at KICC on the 30 December record
20,000 more votes in favour of Kibaki while in Kieni, the number of votes gained by the
president was 17,000 more than was announced at constituency level. In the constituency of
Kisumu Town West, the result announced by the Returning Officer at the local level and
recorded by the EU EOM observers was 57,631 while the fax sent to the ECK gave 64,708 to
the same candidate. Moreover, at ECK headquarters, the EU EOM Chief Observer was shown
forms of the constituencies Lari and Kandara, both in Central Province, which had been
changed. It was unclear, by whom, where, and when these changes were made. It was
therefore not possible to verify whether the signature of the party agents was included before
or after the changes.
In Limuru constituency, the Returning Officer had publicly announced 40,788 votes cast for
the PNU presidential candidate. However, when the originals were delivered to the ECK on
29 December 2007, a recheck carried out at the ECK tally centre found that the results were
added up incorrectly and the result was 48,384 votes cast for the same candidate. Similarly, in
Lari constituency (Central Province) the Returning Officer publicly announced on 28
December 2007 that 41,213 votes had been cast for the PNU presidential candidate, while at
the ECK in Nairobi this figure was increased to 49,276, without any other justification than a
written explanation by the Returning Officer.
According to EU EOM reports, the constituency of Subukia (Rift Valley Province) announced
final results on the basis of phone/fax information, not on the basis of the original forms
delivered by the Returning Officer. The Returning Officer announced to the ECK by phone
and fax 64,995 votes cast for the PNU presidential candidate, while the recheck conducted at
the ECK (with changes made twice) established a figure of 59,802 votes cast for the PNU
presidential candidate as per the forms 16A and 16. However, despite this, the final ECK
results for the PNU presidential candidate were based on the originally announced 64,995
votes cast for the PNU presidential candidate. In the constituency of Masinga, the Returning
Officer announced publicly at 09:00 hours on 29 December 2007 that 21,225 votes had been
cast for the ODM-K presidential candidate. When the Returning Officer delivered form 16A
on 30 December 2007 to the ECK, the correct figure of votes cast for the ODM-K presidential
candidate was established to be 33,726 votes. However, the final ECK presidential results for
the ODM-K presidential candidate were announced on the basis of the 21,225 votes as
announced by the Returning Officer and not the 33,726 votes cast as per the original form and
supporting documentation. According to ODM accounts, 47 result copies handed out to their
agents do not show the same presidential results as those released by the ECK.56
Furthermore, the instances of constituencies where the difference between the turnouts for the
presidential and parliamentary elections exceeded 10 per cent raises concerns of irregularities,
most striking examples being Embakasi, Msambweni, Kaloleni, Taveta, Central Imenti,
Words versus numbers. List the areas you think Kibaki rigged complete with registered/ election results and turnout percentages we see. I was made to believe Juja was massively rigged until I saw a turnout of less than 75%. Now your claim of 20k here and there for 50 places looks really good on imagination but is it born by reality? The same argument can be made where Raila lost here and there plus Kibaki small margins in areas Raila worn comes to a million votes ama namna gani?
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Am halfway done putting those numbers on a spreadsheet so that we can see where the truth lies. Just because some mzungus said something doesn't make it true boss.
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Waste of time. Try find this A Forensic Analysis of Vote Returns in Kenya’s 2007 Election by wakina Ndii and Karuti. Yeah the mzungu was really bitter because they lost Landrover :) - really - a poor country like Kenya that buys 10,000 new cars - would not make Land-rover cry any tears.
Am halfway done putting those numbers on a spreadsheet so that we can see where the truth lies. Just because some mzungus said something doesn't make it true boss.
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RV, You like mixing issues so that you confuse people . First there is no need to compare 2005 Referendum and 2007 General Elections . Kadhi courts was a very big issue in 2005 which united the muslim community and hence voted against the Wako Draft . Secondly as Kibaki had pointed out after 2005 Referendum where as in a referendum people go to vote for a document in an election people go to vote for an individual .
Now on voter turnout of 2013 As highlighted below by IEBC a new voter register was established . In 2007 It was a cumulative old voter register meaning due to deaths and migration of people it was scientifically impossible to have voter turn out of 96 % . Thats why as showcased below the turnout in 2017 went into 80% s (A drop by around 10% )
Turnout Luo Nyanza 2013 2017
SIAYA 92.47% 83.01 %
KISUMU 90.45% 81.64 %
HOMABAY 94.14% 84.71 %
MIGORI 92.02% 83.20 %
https://www.iebc.or.ke/uploads/resources/EIqEo3LuiB.pdf
The registration of voters was a major milestone which established a new Voter Register that replaced the one developed for 2010 Constitutional Referendum.
Now about media remember almost a replica happened in 2013 where media houses were doing their own transmission and tallying results - Isaack had to comeout and call them out and tell them only IEBC would be giving out results and they used to be given periodically until a certain point where for almost 3 days there were no results announced . Isaack managed to keep the nation calm unlike Kivuitu who was senile was yapping that He doesnt know why results are taking long to come its as if they being cooked , Such talk is one of the reason which embolden ODM who had a well thought out strategy of leading Kenya to a stale mate .
Of Party agents - The same story replicated in and 2017 where ODM even argued in courts thats the results had not been certified by their party agents where as either they didnt have the party agents in some areas or the blatantly refused to append their signatures - Luckily by 2017 we had laws in place to deal with these kind of mischief
I will not even go through your MOAS it was erratic from the word go - When you gave Kibaki 17% or so in N.Eastern I knew it was a wrap . Every one Knew Kibaki would win in North Eastern .
Media houses had video evidence where RO announced results at constituency - and what was finally announced at KICC was totally different - nearly all corrections added Kibaki numbers - and reduced Raila numbers.
Observers also documented many such cases...and nearly all refused to give the elections a clean bill of health. All evidence they have shown Kibaki numbers inflated - Raila numbers deflated - from what they had observed at various tallying centers.
Party agents did the same.
Right at KICC - Martha Karua PNU appointed commisioners were also altering results in the guise of verification. This was first rigging - when Martha and Kibaki picked referees - something that even Moi didnt do in 1997.
The evidence of rigging is too overwhelmingly..
I am afraid if you do not use drugs - because then it mean your madness is more serious.
Turnout.
2013 was biometric based....in most places 98 percent of voters were identified by biometric...meaning they turned out to vote.
National turnout was 85 percent.
This was 2013 turnout for Luo Nyanza
SIAYA 92.47%
KISUMU 90.45%
HOMABAY 94.14%
MIGORI 92.02%
Do you think they rigged 2013 too? When Biometric identified the voters?
In 2007 - as part of my prediction for turnout - I did historical analysis since 1992 - and I came up with predicted turnout like see - because what I discovered was that historically Kalenjin and Luos turned out at very high rate - the third were kikuyus.
NYANZA PROV Reg Votes 05 % Turn Out(2005) Exp Turn Out
Mbita 31172 71.60% 83.600%
Bobasi 64861 40.90% 55.900%
Gwassi 28494 65.10% 80.100%
Kuria 49555 52.10% 57.100%
Nyatike 42245 89.10% 96.100%
Bomachoge 57997 39.50% 44.500%
Rongo 58942 77.50% 89.500%
Bonchari 34278 45.10% 50.100%
Nyaribari Masaba 46239 41.20% 46.200%
Nyaribari Chache 51460 39.00% 44.000%
Kitutu Chache 67900 42.00% 47.000%
Kitutu Masaba 65854 41.50% 46.500%
West Mugirango 55295 43.20% 48.200%
South Mugirango 47162 39.70% 44.700%
Rarieda 43718 58.10% 73.100%
Uriri 34187 80.80% 95.800%
Migori 52589 74.30% 89.300%
Ugenya 70162 54.10% 69.100%
Bondo 47928 59.30% 74.300%
Kisumu Town East 44248 53.50% 68.500%
Kisumu Town West 71477 45.70% 60.700%
Kisumu Rural 43012 58.30% 73.300%
Nyando 44712 68.00% 83.000%
Gem 51920 52.70% 67.700%
Nyakach 45704 67.30% 82.300%
Kasipul Kabondo 64355 72.30% 87.300%
Karachuonyo 52606 78.40% 93.400%
Rangwe 60453 66.60% 81.600%
Ndhiwa 51301 74.60% 89.600%
Muhoroni 48009 59.50% 74.500%
Alego 66481 59.10% 74.100%
1594316 70.035%
And it panned out exactly that way.
EXCEPT FOR KIBAKI STRONGHOLDS where MASSIVE BRAZEN RIGGING HAPPEN
2013 results were also delayed. Do you also want to say 2013 elections were rigged.
The Media messed up 2007 election by relaying unverified results.
In 2013 results were delayed by more days in comparison to 2007.
The Premature releying of results by media houses before verification led to the belief by Odmers that they were winning election.
I have never in my life used drugs unlike you who binge drinks everyday. If it is about rigging all indicators show Raila is thenone who rigged. Its unscientific to have 96% voter turn out. but for you thats okei. Its always okei to you as long as it supports your views.
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Once they cant prove their allegations they throw in 2005 Referendum . Its a wrong premise to use 2005 Referendumn and justify 2007 General Elections . This are 2 distinct events with different components in them. Its akin to Justify 2013 Election results with 2010 Referendum Results .
First Referendum dont attract voters in comparison to General elections . This can be attested by 2005 voter Turn out which was partly 53 % where as the 2007 General Election Voter Turn out was 69 %
Second as pointed out earlier In a referendum people vote for or against a document - In a General Election one votes for or against an individual
Thirdly as you have always been saying a General Election is even more attractive because you also go to vote for Councilors/MCAs & MPS - These local leaders also do alot of mobilization
Comparing Referendum and General Elections is just like comparing apples to oranges .
it's easy - take 2005 referendum for yes - and those became Kibaki numbers. ODM - got it name literally from referendum - then Kalonzo took off with Kambas - and Uhuru-Moi family went PNU.
Response Votes %
Yes 2,532,918 41.65%
No 3,548,477 58.35%
Now if you take Kalonzo Kambas 9 percent from ODM - it becomes 50 percents - take Uhuru-Kanu maybe 2 percent - see Raila should have won by 46-48 percent.
Kibaki didnt do anything btw 2005 to 2007 to alter his fortunes...in fact 3 months to election he was still disorganized.
Eventually he resorted to using prov administration - chiefs and aps.
Any turnout by GEMA would be cancelled out by Luo+Kalenjin. The rest of kenya did not bother much with elections.
Kibaki rigged - brazenly
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/70/Kenya_Provinces_referendum_2005.svg/800px-Kenya_Provinces_referendum_2005.svg.png)
Because it helps prove if rigging was that big. If turn out was 75% then is that really big or just normal. Now picture this... Raila lost Kwanza, sabotage, won Chera by less than 1000 votes, in Eldoret North kwa Ruto he got about 80k vs Kibaki 23k votes, Eldoret East he got 59k to Kibaki 12k, Eldoret South 46k vs 16k, Addai 38k vs 6k, Imgwen 51k vs 8k, Tinderbox 49k vs 6k, Baring East lost to Kibaki 7600 to 4k,Eldama Ravine Raila 26k vs 9k, Kuresoi 50k vs 19k, Kilgore 22k vs 8k, Narok North 44k vs 21k, Narok South 48k vs 12k, Kajiado North he lost 49k to 25k, won Kajiado Central 26k to 13k, Malava 19k to 14k, Lugari 42k to 21k, Mumbai 38k to 8k, Lurambi 38k vs 17k, Shinyalu 27k vs 10k ,Ikolomani 19k vs 8k, Emuhaya 30k vs 13k, Hamish 28k vs 10k, Mt Elgon 29k vs 8k, . He lost Kimilili 35k to 17k, lost Webuye 29k to 19k, lost Sirisia 32k to 13k, lost Bumula 23k to 9k . In Budalangi with Namwamba swearing by his name in parliament Raila 12k vs 7k for Kibaki, lost Kuria 23k vs 19k , Bonchari Raila 14k vs Kibaki 11k, lost South Mogirango 21k vs 14k, lost Bomachoge 26k to 18k , won Bobasi 28k vs 21k, lost Nyaribari Masaba 19k to 12k, lost Nyaribari Chache 19k vs 15k, won Kitutu Chache 26k vs 21k, lost Kitutu Masaba 29k vs 23k, lost West Mogirango 26k to 17k, lost North Mogirango Borabu 32kvs 24k.
Now if you drop any bias you can clearly see that words such as Raila had massive support everywhere as opposed to Kibaki central province only created a perception not born by reality. Railas win was a creation of the media hype for months leading to the election. Numbers speak for themselves sir. And one last thing....Kivuitu never said he didn't know who won. The question put to him in front of everyone was did Kibaki win in a fair election and he said He didn't know. Another of those media creations.
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Exit poll mirrors moass in nep and in everything else except kibaki.
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Here are the numbers. Lets dissect them without bias now then where we think there was rigging we can try adjust them just to see what the outcome might have looked like. Am missing two constituencies Kamkunji and Malava so Nowaya can you please furnish us with with the figures if you can.
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Here are the numbers. Lets dissect them without bias now then where we think there was rigging we can try adjust them just to see what the outcome might have looked like. Am missing two constituencies Kamkunji and Malava so Nowaya can you please furnish us with with the figures if you can.
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Finally the hubris that Kibaki rigged election 2007 has been put to rest. This reinforce the belief that Kibaki won by a small margin anywhere said to be between 23,000-48,000 votes.
Pundit you have been hammered by numerical facts for the first time. Bravo to Noway and mankind.we need take this mainstream that Kibaki won fairly in a rigged election by ODM. We need revist.
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Hammered how? You guys are wasting time in an election rigged brazenly. I can understand if like Michuki you justify that it was better to rig Kibaki in - than have Raila as PORK.
Finally the hubris that Kibaki rigged election 2007 has been put to rest. This reinforce the belief that Kibaki won by a small margin anywhere said to be between 23,000-48,000 votes.
Pundit you have been hammered by numerical facts for the first time. Bravo to Noway and mankind.we need take this mainstream that Kibaki won fairly in a rigged election by ODM. We need revist.
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Mankind Election Presidential results for Kamkunji were cancelled due to Violence but Kibaki won there hands down . As for Malava
below are the results
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Malava 14,712 19,891
Here are the numbers. Lets dissect them without bias now then where we think there was rigging we can try adjust them just to see what the outcome might have looked like. Am missing two constituencies Kamkunji and Malava so Nowaya can you please furnish us with with the figures if you can.
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People like using Tharaka Nithi 2007 election results forgerting that due historical Injustice Tharaka Nithi a county had only 2 constituencies
Tharaka Nithi
Constituency Kibaki Raila
Nithi 95,693 1,849
Tharaka 31,567 1,466
Total 127,260 3,315
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No use commenting on this issue. It seems some people have et to accept that their man is a thief. Kibaki is even toda not considered a statesman. Nobod talks about him even in Kena. It is as if he never existed. Bure kabisa.
Hammered how? You guys are wasting time in an election rigged brazenly. I can understand if like Michuki you justify that it was better to rig Kibaki in - than have Raila as PORK.
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The Propaganda bubble you live in
Ruto considers Kibaki a statesman for not interfering with transition politics when his term was ending
Uhuru considers Kibaki a statesman and always says he continued Kibakis legacy
Kalonzo considers Kibaki a statesman and is on record saying he is proud of being his Vice President
Raila considers Kibaki a statesman and always takes credit of Work done by Kibaki.
No use commenting on this issue. It seems some people have et to accept that their man is a thief. Kibaki is even toda not considered a statesman. Nobod talks about him even in Kena. It is as if he never existed. Bure kabisa.
Hammered how? You guys are wasting time in an election rigged brazenly. I can understand if like Michuki you justify that it was better to rig Kibaki in - than have Raila as PORK.
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Molo the Constiuency RV claims was rigged if you look at the numbers. You realise RV iw just yapping.
Overall 2022 has just showed Kibaki won in 2007. The myth that you have to have the system to win Kenyan elections has been debunked.
Here are the numbers. Lets dissect them without bias now then where we think there was rigging we can try adjust them just to see what the outcome might have looked like. Am missing two constituencies Kamkunji and Malava so Nowaya can you please furnish us with with the figures if you can.
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Kibaki won 2007 fair and square ……..
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Fact check…..
No difference between you and ODMers who like throwing the word rigging and sing rigging all through.
There is no way Raila could have beaten Kibaki without uniting with Kalonzo. NSIS knew that and even brought Kalonzo to Kibaki where they cut a deal and was given VP Post Pre or Post Election. He opted post election.
Same thing now There is no way Raila can defeat Ruto with Mt Kenya on Rutos side. I believe Raila has been briefed and it is the reason he is scaling the Mountain. Unfortunately he can’t undo what he built for the last 20 years. His only option is to Tosha someone.
It was crude rigging that even MOI felt ashamed.. kidnapping retiring officers and changing figures.it was bloody coup.This is why we have cok 2010 and the iebc has introduced serious reforms