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Title: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: RV Pundit on October 15, 2021, 07:19:48 PM
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/corporate/companies/peptang-maker-entices-kenyans-with-bottled-dawa-3584576
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: hk on October 17, 2021, 07:35:15 AM
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/corporate/companies/peptang-maker-entices-kenyans-with-bottled-dawa-3584576
I thought peptang(Premier Foods) is Indian owned? The company is well over 50yrs old but I get the point, he seems to be a decent CEO. African real industrialist are very few.
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: RV Pundit on October 17, 2021, 07:38:49 AM
I thought ni yake the way he been pushing it.Kenyans we need to stop obsessing with apartments and build manufacturing companies
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on October 17, 2021, 07:47:05 AM
Its a miracle if he really owns it,and if so explain s why peptang is on a low,it used to be a major company.Kalenjins have 0 business acumen, and that's why you cant see any worthy business owned by them. But i agree we need more type of investing into production building apartment and real estate is the worst form of so called job creation. If our billionaires could di-invest in real estate and build reputable companies kenya GDP would be over 250B$ as real wealth would be created for many not just the owner and his caretakers for the property.
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: RV Pundit on October 17, 2021, 07:56:16 AM
What happen to the only Meru company - Mastermind tobbaco? Kalenjin have some good businessmen - most of them from Moi era gov largese - a few self-made like Chepkwony of Jamii  - obviously Merus are not even there - outside hawking Miraa. i think apart from Murungi of Mastermind and Njeru Industries of tea - you're totally absent. I can count more than 20 private tea factories owned by Kalenjin. Milk processors - who seem to have all sold to Kenyatta. Maize millers. I can count few supermarket chains. Few hotel chains.

I wish more kenyans can invest in manufacturing - and stop building apartments. They can start with agro-processing - before getting into complicated stuff.

Its a miracle if he really owns it,and if so explain s why peptang is on a low,it used to be a major company.Kalenjins have 0 business acumen, and that's why you cant see any worthy business owned by them. But i agree we need more type of investing into production building apartment and real estate is the worst form of so called job creation. If our billionaires could di-invest in real estate and build reputable companies kenya GDP would be over 250B$ as real wealth would be created for many not just the owner and his caretakers for the property.
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: RV Pundit on October 17, 2021, 08:10:47 AM
Njuri - let help you with some kalenjin business you didnt know exist. Apart from Mois, Biwotts, Kuleis, Ruto, Kosgeys and many other political families - there many self-made business

 Jack Jackchebett  - owner of Stabex.

Stabex International Limited is an independent oil and gas marketing Company incorporated in 2009. The Company operates in East and Central Africa with its retail distribution network spreading in Kenya and Uganda. The Company has over the years grown its sales volume to more than 300 million liters annually as at the end of 2019. The Company has heavily invested in storage facilities as well as retail stations. The Company has over seventy (70) Retail Service Stations along major roads and eight (8) depots strategically located within Kenya and Uganda. In addition to this, we supply more than 550 bulk re-sellers who own fuel stations.

The credit portfolio stands at over 1000 customers and the Company has invested in fast-rate accounting system. Our customers enjoy tailor made credit facilities giving them great convenience to leverage on their core business/mandate.

The Company has subcontracted a large fleet of over two hundred (200) articulated vehicles (tankers) for transit distribution of our products across the East Africa. We also have over eighteen (18) trucks dedicated to service local customers thus enabling us to efficiently respond to all customer needs by delivering our principle petroleum products of Petrol (PMS), Diesel (AGO), Kerosene (IK) and Liquefied Petroleum Gas (LPG) within our retail networks. Other services include supply of branded lubricants, car cleaning and maintenance, and convenience stores.
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: RV Pundit on October 17, 2021, 08:14:23 AM
Joshua Chepkwony - this guy started by designing Simu ya Jamii - while working as engineer at Telkoms - and has created lots of wealth.

- He owns JTL - Faiba 4G - amongst other tech companies
- He owns 1B kshs Jamii maize flour in Eldoret
- He owns Kass media and related media companies.
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: RV Pundit on October 17, 2021, 08:17:38 AM
Bundotich Zedekiah Kiprop alias Buzeki - Started hawking milk in Mombasa - before acquiring Kilifi dairies - got into big trucking - then molo milk - sold to Kenyatta - for 1B - and now runs trucking business - amongst other business.
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: RV Pundit on October 17, 2021, 08:19:06 AM
David Langat - DHL - started as clearing and forwarding in Mombasa - now billionaire owning tea estates/factories in Kenya and tanzania - owning real estates in mombasa/eldoret -nyali mall- amongst many other properties. Trying to set up industrial city with chinese in Eldoret in his 2,000 acre farm.
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: RV Pundit on October 17, 2021, 08:25:23 AM
Others include Mutai family - owning 200 plus trailer trucks - run south rift wholesale and retail business
Kipchimatt supermarket - now with 10 stores.
There are many others that own 1 or 2 tea factories or milling plant.
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: vooke on October 17, 2021, 09:07:12 AM
I thought ni yake the way he been pushing it.Kenyans we need to stop obsessing with apartments and build manufacturing companies

I can forgive looters if they invested in industries or mildly labor intensive hustle

But let’s be honest, if you have zero entrepreneurial acumen and no capital, sudden and unearned capital won’t  change that. Yesterday I drove through Kakamega, Busia and Vihiga counties. Only thing MCAs and county employees are investing in are petrol stations and of course apartments
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: RV Pundit on October 17, 2021, 09:17:45 AM
I think it mentality - copy-paste - otherwise if people knew why Kenya Indians are rich - and they do not invest in real estate - they would know manufacturing is way to go.

Someone can start small - animal feed processings - sugar jaggeries - maize milling plant - these kind of active business - not only employs you - could also employ your family - and you earn actively from it.

Real estate is only good as passive investment if you're employed elsewhere.


I can forgive looters if they invested in industries or mildly labor intensive hustle

But let’s be honest, if you have zero entrepreneurial acumen and no capital, sudden and unearned capital won’t  change that. Yesterday I drove through Kakamega, Busia and Vihiga counties. Only thing MCAs and county employees are investing in are petrol stations and of course apartments
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: vooke on October 17, 2021, 09:21:45 AM
Indians have one overlooked advantage; networks in India.

A good number of their misadventures entail steel and they just know how to get it from India. They run a well oiled supply chain down to transport. For instance, do you know the rolled steel sheets you see on Mombasa Road can only be moved by Indian owned trailers? No negro will ever get the lucrative transport contract.

This is no excuse for negro aversion to industries though

I think it mentality - copy-paste - otherwise if people knew why Kenya Indians are rich - and they do not invest in real estate - they would know manufacturing is way to go.

Someone can start small - animal feed processings - sugar jaggeries - maize milling plant - these kind of active business - not only employs you - could also employ your family - and you earn actively from it.

Real estate is only good as passive investment if you're employed elsewhere.


I can forgive looters if they invested in industries or mildly labor intensive hustle

But let’s be honest, if you have zero entrepreneurial acumen and no capital, sudden and unearned capital won’t  change that. Yesterday I drove through Kakamega, Busia and Vihiga counties. Only thing MCAs and county employees are investing in are petrol stations and of course apartments
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: RV Pundit on October 17, 2021, 09:27:09 AM
Previously - in old days - but in the information era - you can get any machine and equipment shipped from India or China. There is no longer excuse. I see negros are starting to go into mabati.

India trailers - it just due to trust issues - if the cargo is very expensive - they will trust their own.

There is really no reason why Nyeuthis cannot start investing in manufacturing anymore. Gov should fixing housing deficit - by building huge estates - that drive real estate prices down - rent down - and this will force Mwafrika to invest in proper business.

Indians have one overlooked advantage; networks in India.

A good number of their misadventures entail steel and they just know how to get it from India. They run a well oiled supply chain down to transport. For instance, do you know the rolled steel sheets you see on Mombasa Road can only be moved by Indian owned trailers? No negro will ever get the lucrative transport contract.

This is no excuse for negro aversion to industries though
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on October 17, 2021, 10:06:50 AM
Abdi Pundit you Kalenjins are a disappointment from a population of almost 6 million you mention just 3 guys and none is renowned nationally? Please pundit kalenjin need work harder and smarter.
Warning ?? don't ever dare mention Mois era semi illiterate s thieves who stole in the list.
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: hk on October 17, 2021, 10:35:13 AM
I thought ni yake the way he been pushing it.Kenyans we need to stop obsessing with apartments and build manufacturing companies
He's a media hound, I am always wary of such CEOs. Bottomline kenya needs investment in every sector but most importantly in companies that're improving productivity and lowering cost of goods. In the restaurant sector we need serious cheap fast food companies. The likes of java, artcaffe , pizza in etc aren't it. The locals like Kosewe can't be scaled either plus are relatively expensive. There's opportunity galore in virtually every sector. 
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: RV Pundit on October 17, 2021, 10:37:15 AM
Name any meru - apart from late Murungi who owned mastermind (a tharaka probably) and Njiru of Njiru industries - who a tea factory - you're totally kaput. Number of kales owning tea factories are more than 20s.

Look at this Killis - owning big maize mill - started recently


Abdi Pundit you Kalenjins are a disappointment from a population of almost 6 million you mention just 3 guys and none is renowned nationally? Please pundit kalenjin need work harder and smarter.
Warning ?? don't ever dare mention Mois era semi illiterate s thieves who stole in the list.
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: RV Pundit on October 17, 2021, 10:41:56 AM
Yes a red flag. The problem is that even Kosewe or Double M - they soon take money from business - and sink it to real estates - or I bet even Tuskys - the moment a kenyan get money - from business or etc - all he thinks is building apartment or hotels - buying land and build himself a little mansions. This mentality that sinks capital into dead capital...and prevent us from replicating the indians success in kenya.

He's a media hound, I am always wary of such CEOs. Bottomline kenya needs investment in every sector but most importantly in companies that're improving productivity and lowering cost of goods. In the restaurant sector we need serious cheap fast food companies. The likes of java, artcaffe , pizza in etc aren't it. The locals like Kosewe can't be scaled either plus are relatively expensive. There's opportunity galore in virtually every sector. 
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on October 17, 2021, 02:27:34 PM
Name any meru - apart from late Murungi who owned mastermind (a tharaka probably) and Njiru of Njiru industries - who a tea factory - you're totally kaput. Number of kales owning tea factories are more than 20s.

Look at this Killis - owning big maize mill - started recently


Abdi Pundit you Kalenjins are a disappointment from a population of almost 6 million you mention just 3 guys and none is renowned nationally? Please pundit kalenjin need work harder and smarter.
Warning ?? don't ever dare mention Mois era semi illiterate s thieves who stole in the list.
Pundit if you don't take Tharakas as Merus then obviously there is nothing like Kalenjin and you know very well :D. As you are well aware,we will talk tugens ,marakwets nandi etc. Murungi was from Chogoria area I think.
I think only Kalenjin to make money fairly is Mutai,his wealth can be traced from hardwork and his family maintains relatively good business practices. Most others are fraudster s from Moi era and support from Mzito during his days as agriculture minister.
Again I must repeat Kalenjins MUST work harder thats the only way out not government support. If you guys want to be dominant like kikuyus its not all about having babies left right and center like in bomet,one woman having 9 children otherwise you will end up like luhyas mbig population no financial muscle. Be warned tell your kin in bomet and elsewhere.
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: RV Pundit on October 17, 2021, 04:01:20 PM
Bomet..there are still 7 private tea factories..bomet farmers ktda has build more than anyway...I think bomet now lead in tea production....we have women group maize milling company..milk is where bomet is underperforming.Maize viral disease for 10yrs drove half of Bomet to deep poverty.But many have transition to sweet potatoes and bananas.There is even sweat potato factory.Bomet has some coolers but no dairy..it produces about 40k litres less than githunguri that does 100k.Urgent need to improve breeds from semi pure to pure breeds.Generally we need industries that can generate wealth and jobs without hawking all over like somalis or maasai or kikuyu..or selling miraa like Meru in every bus stop.We need to formalize and live like decent people that kalenjin have historical been..not hawkers and hustlers...but farmers and business owners through cooperative model..mainly agroprocessing.For a real kalenjin man was not supposed to struggle in life doing menial job..his job after mtc was to supervise things..never to take jembe..worst was to slash the compound edges... anything is seen as disdainful.Even poorest of kalenjin would hire farm hand than dig like a rat...things have now changed
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: RV Pundit on October 17, 2021, 04:19:45 PM
Njuri kalenjin are aristocrat or were  https://www.google.com/amp/s/hivisasa.com/posts/1018-three-jobs-kalenjin-man-never-do
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: Arcadian_Dreamer on October 17, 2021, 04:19:54 PM
Its a miracle if he really owns it,and if so explain s why peptang is on a low,it used to be a major company. Kalenjins have 0 business acumen, and that's why you cant see any worthy business owned by them. But i agree we need more type of investing into production building apartment and real estate is the worst form of so called job creation. If our billionaires could di-invest in real estate and build reputable companies kenya GDP would be over 250B$ as real wealth would be created for many not just the owner and his caretakers for the property.

Hmm...that explains Pundit's espousal of unrealistic fiscal expansion - $100bn bonds, 4m public houses, free NHIF and other wild hare schemes.

I told him a while back he can't run a vibanda to save his life, zero business sense, Marie Antoinette type.

The gapment should do this and that as if government gets its own money, they milk wananchi dry with taxation, he doesn't understand that.

siasa mingi tu Ruto this Ruto that, bure sana.
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: RV Pundit on October 17, 2021, 04:24:30 PM
How has kalenjin managed to employ your grandparents..and all the kavirondos all these years without good business acumen.Just because we hate hustling and struggling in vibandas doesn't mean we are not good business.I told you before independence kalenjin had serious business men.We will never hawk and beg.Go to any kalenjin town ..see how many foreigners are doing decent business..very few.Every kalenjin man is trained to be good manager and leader..not a follower.It was almost a sacrilege to hire fellow kalenjin for any job.Kalenjin men are managers of their homestead or business..will rarely dirty themselves.The only problem is too much time and too much alcohol introduced by mzungu messed kalenjin..plus mzungu brought lots of farmhand who then became land owners reducing kalenjin land holding.most kalenjin have farm workers to manage and pay their salaries..deal with conflict and their fights.Kalenjin and Tusti are very similar...brought up as noble proud aristocrat to oversee savages.Like Tutsi kalenjin maintain that hegemony by visiting untold savegry on the savages...by killing without mercy when provoked
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: RV Pundit on October 17, 2021, 04:52:47 PM
Kenya most successful business..25 percent export and forex..is definitely tea..find out who dominate it.. kalenjin manages large plantation as part of lease agreement..all management mzungu has reserved for kalenjin...the same for ktda majority of tea is from rift valley though the prices are low..private tea factories many.Tea is serious 24hours business 365 days.
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: Arcadian_Dreamer on October 17, 2021, 05:31:06 PM
How has kalenjin managed to employ your grandparents..and all the kavirondos all these years without good business acumen.Just because we hate hustling and struggling in vibandas doesn't mean we are not good business.I told you before independence kalenjin had serious business men.We will never hawk and beg.Go to any kalenjin town ..see how many foreigners are doing decent business..very few.Every kalenjin man is trained to be good manager and leader..not a follower.It was almost a sacrilege to hire fellow kalenjin for any job.Kalenjin men are managers of their homestead or business..will rarely dirty themselves.The only problem is too much time and too much alcohol introduced by mzungu messed kalenjin..plus mzungu brought lots of farmhand who then became land owners reducing kalenjin land holding.most kalenjin have farm workers to manage and pay their salaries..deal with conflict and their fights.Kalenjin and Tusti are very similar...brought up as noble proud aristocrat to oversee savages.Like Tutsi kalenjin maintain that hegemony by visiting untold savegry on the savages...by killing without mercy when provoked

They were filling a niche, expertise was in short supply in those lands. Who are the mechanics even now in your area? Don't get exposed.

Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: RV Pundit on October 17, 2021, 06:06:21 PM
Mechanic is associated with worst dirty and low pay...few kalenjin will accept such a career.infact in kalenjin if you're dirty people will say are you mechanic..manual farm labour kibarua or kandras is second..kipsigis women but other kalenjin women will swiftly divorce you if you ask to dig in the farm ...tugen women says they will never dig ... kalenjin men it's universal that digging or carrying heavy load was beneath them.
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: GeeMail on October 17, 2021, 06:46:52 PM
How is tea factory comparable to munufacturing? But Abdi is berating Njuri for miraa production?
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: RV Pundit on October 17, 2021, 08:03:14 PM
tea factory=manufacturing - why would you think it's different. Driving miraa on breathneck speed to reach the market as raw as possible is zero manufacturing.
How is tea factory comparable to munufacturing? But Abdi is berating Njuri for miraa production?

Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: Arcadian_Dreamer on October 17, 2021, 08:52:44 PM
Mechanic is associated with worst dirty and low pay...few kalenjin will accept such a career.infact in kalenjin if you're dirty people will say are you mechanic..manual farm labour kibarua or kandras is second..kipsigis women but other kalenjin women will swiftly divorce you if you ask to dig in the farm ...tugen women says they will never dig ... kalenjin men it's universal that digging or carrying heavy load was beneath them.

Cultural flaw. Society needs mechanics, metal smiths, leather workers, wood workers, basket weavers, roof thatchers, rope makers, stone masons. Their services are vital. If you turn nose at crafts and handwork you are impoverished mentally.
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: RV Pundit on October 17, 2021, 09:53:14 PM
Agreed. I am not sure what is genesis of this. What I know majority of pastoralist have natural disdain for menial or manual labour especially of agricluture labour. This is also true for Indians - where there is caste system - where some are meant to do manual labour - others not. I know the cows we keep came from Indian/Asian - what I dont know if this disdain for menial labour was imported with cows or started as pastoralist invention.

Kalenjin have no problem doing manly work. This could be hard work but it has to be manly. For instance building a bridges or fencing land.

In Kalenjin men have their own menial or manual labour - mostly it fencing or repairing fences the land - fixing farm structures - felling trees - but never splitting firewood - building farm structures. The work has to be manly and masculine. Anything that involve dirt or kneeling or bending was almost a no. Anything that involve carrying a load on their head is a absolutely no..it considered femine..they may try to slant it on the shoulder.

Typical a kalenjin will do slashing or trimming hedges and such - but anything involving a jembe or hoe - they deem as go under like rats.

As for women - Kispigis, Keiyo and Marakwet have no problem with menial labour - never try Nandi or Tugen on manual labour - Tugen especially pride themselves as women who never do menial labour (Tugen mokipendi kandaras) - you have to hire a farm hand for her. They are like muslim women...the only thing they will do is to milk cows and maybe pick vegetables. Dont marry them unless youre ready for a lazy women like those coastarians who just cook.

Cultural flaw. Society needs mechanics, metal smiths, leather workers, wood workers, basket weavers, roof thatchers, rope makers, stone masons. Their services are vital. If you turn nose at crafts and handwork you are impoverished mentally.
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on October 18, 2021, 11:25:46 AM
Its good you stated Kipsigis do menial jobs because there are lots of househelps and guards from kalenjin nowadays you taking over from Luhyas. Soon we will have Kalenjin cooks and shamba boys. No problem as long as it brings money to the table.
Pundit you have a misplaced sense of pride that is clashing with reality on ground. As you guys multiply kalenjin will sink deeper into menial jobs. Thats the only bitter Truth.
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: Kadudu on October 18, 2021, 11:37:24 AM
Cheap labour always prevails. Soon Kipsigis will need their own Kangemi or Kibera in Nairobi. This way they will be garantied one parliamentary seat in Nairobi county.

Its good you stated Kipsigis do menial jobs because there are lots of househelps and guards from kalenjin nowadays you taking over from Luhyas. Soon we will have Kalenjin cooks and shamba boys. No problem as long as it brings money to the table.
Pundit you have a misplaced sense of pride that is clashing with reality on ground. As you guys multiply kalenjin will sink deeper into menial jobs. Thats the only bitter Truth.
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: RV Pundit on October 18, 2021, 02:49:26 PM
Yes kipsigis are starting to be maid in large number as poverty increases - I think guard thing is natural job for poor kalenjin - I dont think kalenjin will mind being watch guards - it's manly job - but definitely as poverty increases our pride will go out of the window. Now kalenjin do farm work - something their forefathers never could.

Its good you stated Kipsigis do menial jobs because there are lots of househelps and guards from kalenjin nowadays you taking over from Luhyas. Soon we will have Kalenjin cooks and shamba boys. No problem as long as it brings money to the table.
Pundit you have a misplaced sense of pride that is clashing with reality on ground. As you guys multiply kalenjin will sink deeper into menial jobs. Thats the only bitter Truth.

Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: GeeMail on October 19, 2021, 07:45:44 PM
https://www.nairobileo.co.ke/news/4735/eddie-ndichu-forced-to-step-down-from-the-association-of-fintechs-in-kenya-board-over-assault-allegations

Kenyans get little money and things flare up.
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: Georgesoros on October 20, 2021, 03:20:58 PM
I thought ni yake the way he been pushing it.Kenyans we need to stop obsessing with apartments and build manufacturing companies

Agree with ya there.
We need industries.
Problem is initial investment in land is extremely high, let alone infrastructure. Policy makers have really failed Kenya. They have never addressed issues related to lowering costs of investment so that more people can create industries.
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: RV Pundit on October 20, 2021, 03:27:40 PM
With improving road, water, electricity network, you dont need to establish in Nairobi - its better to establish near your raw materials - than your market -  in Nairobi - you can have depot. If raw materials are imported - anywhere along the SGR is great. I'd say it easy now - because electricity coverage is almost everywhere - that and with improved road network....mean factories can be established in middle of nowhere were land is cheap.
Agree with ya there.
We need industries.
Problem is initial investment in land is extremely high, let alone infrastructure. Policy makers have really failed Kenya. They have never addressed issues related to lowering costs of investment so that more people can create industries.
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on November 27, 2021, 04:55:11 PM
I thought ni yake the way he been pushing it.Kenyans we need to stop obsessing with apartments and build manufacturing companies
Appears kampuni Si yake. Kalenjin still 0 kampuni ni ya bahindi guys was mtu ya mkono ya muhindi. Pundit kalenjin need to work hard kama Wameru or Wakikuyu si mambo ya handouts


https://www.tuko.co.ke/kenya/435041-employees-tears-premier-foods-ceo-joseph-choges-farewell-goodbyes/
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: RV Pundit on November 27, 2021, 05:45:23 PM
You really want competition. First toa wameru - apart from Mastermind tobbaco - and Njeru industries - wameru you're no where to be seen in industries.

Kalenjin we are historical very rich people in Kenya - that is why you did not find us in slums until recently.

If we go sector by sector - mmh - we are 2nd to Kikuyus in kenya. Ruto akirudi kumi - we overtake them :)

Appears kampuni Si yake. Kalenjin still 0 kampuni ni ya bahindi guys was mtu ya mkono ya muhindi. Pundit kalenjin need to work hard kama Wameru or Wakikuyu si mambo ya handouts


https://www.tuko.co.ke/kenya/435041-employees-tears-premier-foods-ceo-joseph-choges-farewell-goodbyes/

Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: RV Pundit on November 27, 2021, 05:55:13 PM
Njuri start with Tea factories - Tea represent 25% of kenya export
Tuwache KTDA - and big mutlinations (all run by kalenjin almost)

These individual tea factories are own by Kalenjin - Meru ni MOYA MOJA tu.
Kenya
Tea producers in Kenya

Emrok Tea Factory (EPZ)
Nandi Hills
Kenya
Phone: 020-3860579/20

DL Koisagat Tea Estate Ltd
Nandi Hills
Kenya
Phone: Tel: 0202645393 (Nandi Hills)/0412220085 (Mombasa)

Kenya Tea Development Agency Limited
KTDA logo
NAIROBI
Kenya

Njeru Industries Ltd
MERU
Kenya
Phone: 0722 847894

Elgon Tea and Coffee Limited
Kitale
Kenya
Phone: 0722 899814

Chebango EPZ Tea Company Ltd
Nairobi
Kenya
Phone: 0722 743669

Kuresoi Tea Factory Ltd
Kericho
Kenya
Phone: +254722745814

Karirana Estates Ltd
LIMURU
Kenya
Phone: 254 (20)2458752/4 / 0751294698 / 0722 203323, 0733 333529

Kapcheluch Tea Factory Ltd
Kericho
Kenya
Phone: 254 (0) 736 836827 / 725 244344

Nandi Tea Estates Ltd
Nandi Hills
Kenya
Phone: 254 (0) 20 8013453 / 0721654012/0734774759

Sotik Tea Company Ltd
Sotik
Kenya
Phone: 254 052 30579/20853

Williamson Tea Kenya Ltd
Nairobi
Kenya
Phone: 254 20 2710740/2712500/722 284 596

Unilever Tea Kenya Ltd
Kericho
Kenya
Phone: 254 52 20146-9/722 307394/0733 604837

Sotik Highlands Tea Estate
Sotik
Kenya
Phone: 254 52 30579/20853

Siret Tea Company Ltd
Nairobi
Kenya
Phone: 25420 4440115-9/ 733 600931/ 722 205342

Ngorongo Tea Company Ltd
Kiambu
Kenya
Phone: 254 066 5700212/5700213/020 6751805

Nyayo Tea Zones Devt. Corporation
Nairobi
Kenya
Phone: 254 20 315650

Mogeni Tea Factory Ltd
Ikonge
Kenya
Phone: 254 020-8064873

Mau Tea Multipurpose Co-operative Society Ltd
Kericho
Kenya
Phone: 254202383123
Maramba Tea Factory Ltd
Limuru
Kenya
Phone: 254-020-2116393

Lasit Tea Factory Limited
Nakuru
Kenya
Kiptagich Tea Estate Ltd
Nakuru
Kenya
Phone: 254-051-850884

Kapchebet Tea Factory Ltd
Kericho
Kenya
Phone: 0725 043439/020 2348547

Kipkebe Ltd
Sotik
Kenya
Phone: 052 30250/20780/ 0734 200707/0722 200707

Kibwari Ltd
Nairobi
Kenya
Phone: 254-053- 643017

Kaisugu Ltd
Kericho
Kenya
Phone: 254-052-30623/20027

James Finlay Kenya Ltd
Kericho
Kenya
Phone: 052 20155-20160

Eastern Produce Kenya Ltd
Nairobi
Kenya
Phone: 020 4440115/ 0733 600931
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: RV Pundit on November 27, 2021, 05:59:48 PM
Before we move to another sector - examine ya wakale hapo

Tea is the main cash crop grown in Kenya and earns the country a lot of money. There are various factories in Kenya that supply Kenya with tea for both local use and foreign exchange. These factories are registered by Tea Board of Kenya.

Therefore the registered tea factories in Kenya include: 

 
Arroket factory – Sotik Tea Company limited.

Chagaik factory – UTK limited.

Changana factory – JFK limited.

Changoi tea factory – WTK limited.

Chebut tea Factory Company limited.

Chelal tea.

Chemoni factory – EPK limited.

Chinga tea Factory Company limited.

Chemogonday factory – JFK limited.

Eastern produce Kenya limited.

Eberege tea Factory Company limited.

Gacharage tea Factory Company limited.

Gachege tea Factory Company limited.

Gathuthi tea Factory Company limited.

Gatitu tea factory.

Gatunguru tea Factory Company limited.

Gianchore tea Factory Company limited.

Githambo tea Factory Company limited.

Githongo tea Factory Company limited.

Gitugi tea Factory Company limited.

Igembe tea Factory Company limited.

Ikumbi tea Factory Company limited.

Imenti tea Factory Company limited.

Iriani tea Factory Company limited.

Itumbe tea Factory Company limited.

James Finlay (Kenya) limited.

Jamji factory – UTK limited.

Kagwe tea Factory Company limited.

Kaimosi tea Factory Company limited – WTK limited.

Kaisugu tea Factory Company limited.

Kambaa tea Factory Company limited.

Kangaita tea Factory Company limited.

Kanyenyaini tea Factory Company limited.

Kapchebet tea Factory Company limited.

Kapcheluch tea factory limited.

Kapchorua Tea Company limited.

Kapkatet Tea Company limited.

Kapkoros tea Factory Company limited.

Kapsara tea Factory Company limited.

Kapset tea Factory Company limited.

Kapsumbeiwa factory – EPK limited.

Kaptumo tea Factory Company limited.

Karirana estates limited.

Kathangariri tea Factory Company limited.

Williamson tea Kenya limited.

Weru tea Factory Company limited.

Unilever tea factory limited.

Toror tea Factory Company limited.

Tombe tea Factory Company limited.

Tirgaga tea Factory Company limited.

Tinderet tea estate (1989) limited _ WTK limited.

Kebirigo tea Factory Company limited.

Kericho factory – UTK limited.

Kibwar limited.

Kiptagich tea estate limited.

Mara Mara instant – JFK limited.

Mudete tea Factory Company limited.

Nandi tea estates – Nandi hills.

Nyayo tea zones development corporations.

Nyankoba tea Factory Company limited.
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: RV Pundit on November 27, 2021, 06:07:40 PM
Next Njuri - go to Maize - who is feeding kenya - if not Kalenjin farmers :)

Tranzoia - Uasin Gishu - Nakuru- Nandi - Kericho - Bomet - Major farmers pale in Kalenjin. Luhya wale have just half an acre and can barely feed themselves.

There are many kalenjin families who farm 1,000 acres plus of maize. The average Kalenjin do commercial maize farming - more than 5 acres.

Industries - Jamii Milers - Chepkwony has state of art 1B kshs Miller - amongst many small ones
(http://www.shivconstruction.co.ke/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/jamii-milling4.jpg)

The Kilis who grow 1000 acres of maize have their own
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: RV Pundit on November 27, 2021, 06:15:00 PM
Next Njuri go to Milk - despite kalenjin selling their dairies to Kenyatta (Ilara, Molo Milk, Premier) - Kalenjin I bet are leading producers and consumers of milk. Maybe kikuyus lead in marketed milk - but amount of milk kalenjin drink would drown you Njuri.

Baringo leads in goats, sheeps - and there even in cattle for slaughter kalenjin produce a lot of that.
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: RV Pundit on November 27, 2021, 06:19:03 PM
Go to wheat/barley - find out who grow the most - kalenjin
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: RV Pundit on November 27, 2021, 06:19:44 PM
Even sugar - amount of sugar grown by Nandis and Kispigis - in chemelil and soin is a lot. Ngeny has is own factory.
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on November 27, 2021, 07:02:30 PM
Stop beating around the bush in the hope you will disguise the truth. Remove KTDA majani factories and Nyayo era funded dairy and maize farms.
We are talking real national companies employing kenyans from all over the country not mere tea pickers from mogusii and mbaluya. The fact that you concentrate onoi ktda farms shows you are empty of content.
Kalenjins I repeat have to work HARDER and stop relying on govt handouts.
Kalenjin despite living in fertile lands rely on regular food assistance in marakeet and baringo and thousands remain unemployed as they cant create good companies
You grow sugar as subsistence farmers but the owners of the companies are foreign.
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on November 27, 2021, 07:11:41 PM
You really want competition. First toa wameru - apart from Mastermind tobbaco - and Njeru industries - wameru you're no where to be seen in industries.

Kalenjin we are historical very rich people in Kenya - that is why you did not find us in slums until recently.

If we go sector by sector - mmh - we are 2nd to Kikuyus in kenya. Ruto akirudi kumi - we overtake them :)

Appears kampuni Si yake. Kalenjin still 0 kampuni ni ya bahindi guys was mtu ya mkono ya muhindi. Pundit kalenjin need to work hard kama Wameru or Wakikuyu si mambo ya handouts


https://www.tuko.co.ke/kenya/435041-employees-tears-premier-foods-ceo-joseph-choges-farewell-goodbyes/

Eti second to kikuyu :D  :D funny stuff mursik iko na ulevi kweli. I rank Kalenjin at no.6 after kenyan British, indians,GEMA,kisii , Somali,kalenjin you are ranked together with luhyas and luos in economic job creation in kenya.
Not even with 50 years you will overtake Kikuyu with mois 24 and ruto10 you have actually become poorer and disillusioned
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: Nowayhaha on November 27, 2021, 08:06:49 PM
Very funny . Luckily Ruto is wiser than this. Else he would be another Raila.  RV have told you before with this type of Bravado Ruto would never keep you an inch closer .
Ruto will rule Kenya for 10 years because he is cut from a different cloth.
RV Pundit you belong to ODM .

You really want competition. First toa wameru - apart from Mastermind tobbaco - and Njeru industries - wameru you're no where to be seen in industries.

Kalenjin we are historical very rich people in Kenya - that is why you did not find us in slums until recently.

If we go sector by sector - mmh - we are 2nd to Kikuyus in kenya. Ruto akirudi kumi - we overtake them :)

Appears kampuni Si yake. Kalenjin still 0 kampuni ni ya bahindi guys was mtu ya mkono ya muhindi. Pundit kalenjin need to work hard kama Wameru or Wakikuyu si mambo ya handouts


https://www.tuko.co.ke/kenya/435041-employees-tears-premier-foods-ceo-joseph-choges-farewell-goodbyes/

Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: RV Pundit on November 27, 2021, 08:42:31 PM
this was said in jest
Very funny . Luckily Ruto is wiser than this. Else he would be another Raila.  RV have told you before with this type of Bravado Ruto would never keep you an inch closer .
Ruto will rule Kenya for 10 years because he is cut from a different cloth.
RV Pundit you belong to ODM .

You really want competition. First toa wameru - apart from Mastermind tobbaco - and Njeru industries - wameru you're no where to be seen in industries.

Kalenjin we are historical very rich people in Kenya - that is why you did not find us in slums until recently.

If we go sector by sector - mmh - we are 2nd to Kikuyus in kenya. Ruto akirudi kumi - we overtake them :)

Appears kampuni Si yake. Kalenjin still 0 kampuni ni ya bahindi guys was mtu ya mkono ya muhindi. Pundit kalenjin need to work hard kama Wameru or Wakikuyu si mambo ya handouts


https://www.tuko.co.ke/kenya/435041-employees-tears-premier-foods-ceo-joseph-choges-farewell-goodbyes/

Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: RV Pundit on November 27, 2021, 08:45:13 PM
Which national company is owned by a Meru :) I have given you kalenjin doing things at international level - sasa unalia lia tu.

We were going sector by sector. We will get to those other sectors

We go flowers and horticulture - Hapo ni Kulei, Moi and like of Cheserem.

Example
Sian Roses is the leading Kenyan producer of high quality Roses. The group of three flower farms, all located in Kenya, produces a wide variety of Roses of

Stop beating around the bush in the hope you will disguise the truth. Remove KTDA majani factories and Nyayo era funded dairy and maize farms.
We are talking real national companies employing kenyans from all over the country not mere tea pickers from mogusii and mbaluya. The fact that you concentrate onoi ktda farms shows you are empty of content.
Kalenjins I repeat have to work HARDER and stop relying on govt handouts.
Kalenjin despite living in fertile lands rely on regular food assistance in marakeet and baringo and thousands remain unemployed as they cant create good companies
You grow sugar as subsistence farmers but the owners of the companies are foreign.
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: RV Pundit on November 27, 2021, 08:49:02 PM
Now tuwacha Agricluture and agro-processing.

Tuwende wapi Njuri?

Media - KTN stable - owned by Mois.
The Radio Africa Stable - Owned by Kittonyis.
Kass media stable - Owned by Chepkwony.
There are many small time FM owners from Kalenjin.

Meru zero - maybe Mwangaza and her funny meru TV based in Maua :).

Kikuyus it's Citizen and K24 stable.
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: RV Pundit on November 27, 2021, 08:51:30 PM
Eti Kisii - those are our farm hands with thousands of Luo and Luhyas.
There is nothing like GEMA - meru and embu you're nowhere.
We can only recognise Kikuyus.
Somalis yes - those are serious business men.
Otherwise big boys in Kenya excluding Indians and whites...
Are either Kikuyus or Kalenjin.
And it's simple - it's great land plus political power.
Kikuyu advantage of Nairobi - although that hasnt helped Kambas or Maasai.
Eti second to kikuyu :D  :D funny stuff mursik iko na ulevi kweli. I rank Kalenjin at no.6 after kenyan British, indians,GEMA,kisii , Somali,kalenjin you are ranked together with luhyas and luos in economic job creation in kenya.
Not even with 50 years you will overtake Kikuyu with mois 24 and ruto10 you have actually become poorer and disillusioned
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: RV Pundit on November 27, 2021, 08:56:57 PM
Transport sector
Gusii - probably in bus they can speak - but in trucking - kalenjin dominate. When it come to even matatus - I think North Rift is the largest in kenya with 600 matatus.

Long distance trucking - hapo ni kalenjin tupu.

From Moi signon with more than a thousand trucks to Buzekis to Stabex to Mutais.

In trucking it's either Signon or Mutilple...the big boys. If you stop any large truck - chance of a Kalenjin driver is 50 percent.

Njuri - produce a Buzeki in Meru kwanza before you talk business
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: RV Pundit on November 27, 2021, 09:05:43 PM
Move to Oil and gas.

Moi-Biwott sold out their Kenol-Kobil congolemerate that was competing with multinationals - and had expanded to 8 countries - to French Rubis.

But we still have likes of Stabex - Chebet - who own supply Uganda - operate petrol stations in kenya all the way to Congo.


Chebet is also growing 2,000 acres of avacados in Uganda - DL langat owns tea farms and estate in Tanzanai


Eldoret tycoon acquires Tanzania tea firms for Sh6 billion

Kenyan businessman David Langat has made a bold move to expand his tea venture with an acquisition of one of the leading tea producers and trading company in Tanzania.

Mr Langat who owns Koisagat Tea Estate in Nandi County has bought three companies from British firm Rift Valley Corporation for an estimated price of Sh6 billion.

Through D L Koisagat, Mr Langat now owns 99 per cent stake in Mufindi Tea and Coffee Limited, Rift Valley Tea Solutions Limited and Kibena Tea Limited.
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: RV Pundit on November 27, 2021, 09:11:22 PM
Njuri - do we move to Telkom Sector?

Jamii Telkom - competing with Safaricom and MTN (South Africa) in fiber business.

Faiba - 4G license.

Where is meru? At least James Mwangi has his fintech slimcard thing.

Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: RV Pundit on November 27, 2021, 09:16:23 PM
Njuri - twende hotel industry? ama real estate like malls. Ama mali kwenu ni Githurai type :) of slumscrappers :)

Meru bado mshinda to build a single mall - one in Meru has stalled.  Eldoret alone has many by small time althetes.

Nyali Mall is owned by DL Langat. He is also building 200B kshs industrial park in his 2,000 acres huko Eldoret.

As for hotels - Mois alone own many of those.
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on November 27, 2021, 09:18:17 PM
Pundit go save Egerton university first from its imminent collapse then we can have an iota of belief that Kalenjin can manage anything apart from goat keeping :D and you are not even ashamed of mentioning Moi-Biwott.
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/education/article/2001430286/egerton-university-closed-indefinitely
Kalenjin are a laughing stock
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: RV Pundit on November 27, 2021, 09:20:13 PM
We know you're are starting to sweat because kalenjin are going back to power for 10yrs - scratch that Ruto will need 20-30yrs to realize his vision for kenya :)

All kenya universities are in RED. They owe 80B. You cannot blame the proffesors. You can ONLY BLAME MATIANGI for cutting their revenue streams when he did away with parrallel students through mass failure.

Peleka propaganda kama hizi to toilet.com. UON, KU, Chuka...all of them are BANKRUPT....sudden cutting of their resources by Matiangi is responsible for the mess.

Pundit go save Egerton university fisrt from its imminent collapse then we can have an iota of belief that Kalenjin can manage anything apart from goat keeping :D and you are not even ashamed of mentioning Moi-Biwott.
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/education/article/2001430286/egerton-university-closed-indefinitely
Kalenjin are a laughing stock
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on November 27, 2021, 09:20:45 PM
It seems am not the only one with sceptical opinion of kalenjins managerial skills
https://www.kenyatalk.com/index.php?threads/another-kalenjin-institution-bites-the-dust.207766/
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: RV Pundit on November 27, 2021, 09:22:23 PM
No problem. We will hire Meru to bring their miraa induced management. Mworia sio mbaya :) Hizi ni propaganda baseless as Ruto is set to become PORK. We expect to see most of this the next 10- 20yrs :)
It seems am not the only one with sceptical opinion of kalenjins managerial skills
https://www.kenyatalk.com/index.php?threads/another-kalenjin-institution-bites-the-dust.207766/
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: RV Pundit on November 27, 2021, 09:24:26 PM
Njuri - you've run from comparison mapema :) private universitiy - muko na Jeniffer riria and her Riara university - Tuko na Moi and his Kabarak university. So hapo mumejaribu :) That woman is good business woman.
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: RV Pundit on November 27, 2021, 09:25:53 PM
Njuri - which business are talking about - last I checked Kimutai from Kericho runs Nairobi Matatus - I think he owns most of Westland Matatus :)

Meru tu ni hizo shuttle za kwenda meru and hawking miraa all over kenya :) - and driving miraa pickups
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on November 27, 2021, 09:30:36 PM
Pundit am not Kikuyu to spread propaganda against Kalenjin as nowhere Merus interact or compete with you but am simply stating what majority of Kenyans think and have experienced under Kalenjin. Unfortunately thats the plain truth corruption is everywhere in Kenya but Kalejin corruption is unique as its simply makes the institution redudant. We have seen this from Moi era to today,was it not for kibaki reviving dead institution Kenya would have been more like zambia or Gambia.
Kalenjin have to embrace hard work🤷🏽???
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: RV Pundit on November 27, 2021, 10:07:52 PM
Hiyo ni yenu. If you were half as brilliant - Kalenjin a small tribe wont have rule for 25yrs - with what 20yrs as DPORK - and now Ruto has one leg inside statehouse.

Moi did very well compared to contemporaries in Africa. You cannot compare Moi era to Kibaki era. Different eras.

Besides it was opposition led by GEMA who asked the Wazungu to crash the economy to make the insanely popular Moi lose election and he didnt.

My friend deal with Ruto pre-eminence bila makasirikio. I have given you many kalenjin business owned and run by Kalenjin that are doing great. Kalenjin as people themselves are great farmers....employing many of these other kabilas.

How can we not know how to manage when we have thousands of luhya, gusii, luos and turkanas as employees in our villages?

If stuff crashed under Moi - they crashed while being managed by all tribes. There were merus working with Moi crashing the economy. There were Luos doing the same.

Unless you have empirical scientific study showing kalenjin lack managerial skills hiyo tu ni TUMBO JOTO as WSR look all set for PORK

Pundit am not Kikuyu to spread propaganda against Kalenjin as nowhere Merus interact or compete with you but am simply stating what majority of Kenyans think and have experienced under Kalenjin. Unfortunately thats the plain truth corruption is everywhere in Kenya but Kalejin corruption is unique as its simply makes the institution redudant. We have seen this from Moi era to today,was it not for kibaki reviving dead institution Kenya would have been more like zambia or Gambia.
Kalenjin have to embrace hard work🤷🏽???
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on November 27, 2021, 10:50:05 PM
Not everything must be scientific for it to be true, Just observatio,experience and historical data are also parameters for gauging outcomes
This time you won't have handouts when Ruto becomes pork better believe and start hard work.
Pundit kalenjins must learn to be creators of opportunities not consumers abd thats how you have ended up as househelps and watchmen in Nairobi and elsewhere
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: Nowayhaha on November 27, 2021, 11:04:47 PM

Njuri you have a way of putting it clear. If GEMA were dissapointed with Uhuru Presidency Kalenjin should be 10 times ready to be dissapointed  with Ruto Presidency.
Ruto  did away with Regional governments and Provinces , Specifically the so called Rift Valley Province . That Killed ODM and their so called united front against GEMA. He has been proven right as 2022 elections is no longer about GEMA this or GEMA that. nowonder you see the Omollos and Moist like RV scattering left and right.
Not everything must be scientific for it to be true, Just observatio,experience and historical data are also parameters for gauging outcomes
This time you won't have handouts when Ruto becomes pork better believe and start hard work.
Pundit kalenjins must learn to be creators of opportunities not consumers abd thats how you have ended up as househelps and watchmen in Nairobi and elsewhere
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: RV Pundit on November 27, 2021, 11:38:46 PM
Househelp+watchmen is just restricted to small part of kalenjin mostly lower part of Bomet - because they have had serious maize virus since 2010 otherwise Kalenjin are doing well.

Compared to other tribes that dominate slums, street children and bars..

Not everything must be scientific for it to be true, Just observatio,experience and historical data are also parameters for gauging outcomes
This time you won't have handouts when Ruto becomes pork better believe and start hard work.
Pundit kalenjins must learn to be creators of opportunities not consumers abd thats how you have ended up as househelps and watchmen in Nairobi and elsewhere
Title: Re: This kale industrialist of peptang worth emulating
Post by: RV Pundit on November 27, 2021, 11:43:19 PM
You trying too much to own Ruto :)
Ruto never did a way with regional gov.
There was a problem in mostly in dealing with South Rift - Maasai and Kikuyus - did not want to be dominated by Kipsigis - so the proposed 14 regions had serious problem hapo.
Also Kikuyus were afraid of strong regions or majimbo - as it would make their huge diaspora minorities
So a compromise old district was used...which follows almost to the dot tribal borders.
Regions - or province - were larger tribal grouping of related tribes.

Will Kalenjin be disappointed with Ruto.

HELL NO. Ruto is a performer. Uhuru is a drunkard that cannot find his bottom with two hands.That everyone including Ruto knows. I have heard Ruto verbatim describe Uhuru as Mlevi bure Kabisa...chain smoker who is either drunk or drinking.

We already had Ruto jubilee 1.0 - tell me any kalenjin who was disappointed? How can you be disappointed when Ruto tarmacked so many roads and pulled electricity to many areas???

Shida imetoka when Mlevi in 2017 was incited by Mt kenya losers of 2017 nomination and told he can drive Kenya.

HAWEZI. You can see the mess we are in. A drunkard cannot lead. He tried to outsource to Matiangi but Matiangi has no political skills or mandate...to lead.

BIG FOUR AGENDA IS ALMOST ZERO.ZERO. It's very embarrasing.

Jubilee is NOW DEAD AS DODO.


Njuri you have a way of putting it clear. If GEMA were dissapointed with Uhuru Presidency Kalenjin should be 10 times ready to be dissapointed  with Ruto Presidency.
Ruto  did away with Regional governments and Provinces , Specifically the so called Rift Valley Province . That Killed ODM and their so called united front against GEMA. He has been proven right as 2022 elections is no longer about GEMA this or GEMA that. nowonder you see the Omollos and Moist like RV scattering left and right.