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RV Pundit · « **on:** October 08, 2014, 11:44:23 AM »

Japanase lady judge going through the motion.

Uhuru required to attend because of critical nature of issues..either indefinite adjournment or termination.

Uhuru dual role...Uhuru as an accused person and as head of state of a state party.

Okay OTP turn....

RV Pundit · « **Reply #1 on:** October 08, 2014, 11:48:29 AM »

Adjournment pending the assemblies of parties of states.

RV Pundit · « **Reply #2 on:** October 08, 2014, 11:50:17 AM »

OTP object to six month. He says maybe after next election. Meaning removal of Uhuru.

The only date..is when the gov of kenya does what it does not.

Adjourn the case sine die (something like that...) without fixing a date..until GOK complies with orders.

RV Pundit · « **Reply #3 on:** October 08, 2014, 11:50:56 AM »

Judges ask OTP for any jurisprudence for such an indefinite adjournment.

RV Pundit · « **Reply #4 on:** October 08, 2014, 11:51:49 AM »

OTP say they cannot provide any case load or any laws underpinning the request...but he says trial judges have sweeping powers over the conduct of proceedings.

RV Pundit · « **Reply #5 on:** October 08, 2014, 11:53:27 AM »

The grant of adjournment is grounded in law. The indefinite part is not that controversial....given right now the case is already adjourned without any set date.

RV Pundit · « **Reply #6 on:** October 08, 2014, 11:55:48 AM »

The is no evidence of any action or inaction on Uhuru's part. They make no allegation against Uhuru obstructing justice. They have no evidence Uhuru has been objecting them.

Uhuru is clean.

JUdges asks about undue delay.

RV Pundit · « **Reply #7 on:** October 08, 2014, 11:57:19 AM »

Since 2013 the accused has had a specific duty under constitution of kenya to ensure that republic of kenya complies with international obligations.

Uhuru may bear NO PERSONAL responsibility but he bears OFFICIAL responsibility.

OTP tying themselves in a knot.

RV Pundit · « **Reply #8 on:** October 08, 2014, 11:58:37 AM »

Judges ask OTP if indefinite adjournment will not infringe on Uhuru's right to fair trial and the proceedings integrity...in light of the view that prosecution evidence is short.

RV Pundit · « **Reply #9 on:** October 08, 2014, 11:59:43 AM »

OTP: The basic building blocks of establishing case (the accused financial and organisation capacity) has been impeded then such interference will not bring proceedings to an end.

RV Pundit · « **Reply #10 on:** October 08, 2014, 12:00:17 PM »

In my view OTP arguments are very weak. The case can be terminated and restarted later on.

RV Pundit · « **Reply #11 on:** October 08, 2014, 12:00:51 PM »

OTP: They want the court to make a point against obstruction.

RV Pundit · « **Reply #12 on:** October 08, 2014, 12:03:15 PM »

Judge Anderson: Negro judges asking OTP to withdraw a charge and come back again later.

RV Pundit · « **Reply #13 on:** October 08, 2014, 12:04:41 PM »

Judge ask OTP why they can't withdraw charges.

OTP reply: This is the initial question asked and answered previously.

Mintos · « **Reply #14 on:** October 08, 2014, 12:05:22 PM »

only 2 options remain.

either
- Terminate or
- Refer to ASP

indefinite adjourment will not be granted.

RV Pundit · « **Reply #15 on:** October 08, 2014, 12:06:45 PM »

OTP; Saying something like that will be rewarding Uhuru; Consider the evidence available doesn't support the charge; OTP are not in that position. They know there is evidence out there in kenya; it might exonerate or incriminate; but GOK are blocking them.

RV Pundit · « **Reply #16 on:** October 08, 2014, 12:07:23 PM »

OTP: Repeat themselves....indefinite adjournment would be apt.

Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants · « **Reply #17 on:** October 08, 2014, 12:07:52 PM »

The Negro judge sounds Bahamian. Is he from there?

RV Pundit · « **Reply #18 on:** October 08, 2014, 12:08:57 PM »

Anderson the negro judge: Ultimately it is balancing act. Does indefinite adjournment cures that. OTP resources and chambers engaged...could be better utilized....and if OTP withdraw like is done in domestic case....

RV Pundit · « **Reply #19 on:** October 08, 2014, 12:13:42 PM »

Mzungu Judge; Ask if six month won't bring any impact then how would indefinite adjourning make it any better.
OTP; Bla de bla...it still about state party refusing to cooperate.

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