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Voter roll by tribe-GEMA tyranny
« on: June 30, 2020, 05:31:04 PM »
Based on the current IEBC register
1.KIKUYU-4.8M
2.LUO-2.7M
3.KALENJIN-2.4M
4.LUHYA-2.2M
5.KAMBA-2M
6.MERU-1M
7.KISII-0.9
8.SOMALIS-0.7
9.MAASAIS-0.5
10.MIJIKENDA-0.5
11.EMBU-0.3
12.OTHERS-0.8
TOTAL=19.6


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Re: Voter roll by tribe-GEMA tyranny
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2020, 06:12:05 PM »
Can you share the methodology?
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Re: Voter roll by tribe-GEMA tyranny
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2020, 06:14:20 PM »
Based on the current IEBC register
1.KIKUYU-4.8M
2.LUO-2.7M
3.KALENJIN-2.4M
4.LUHYA-2.2M
5.KAMBA-2M
6.MERU-1M
7.KISII-0.9
8.SOMALIS-0.7
9.MAASAIS-0.5
10.MIJIKENDA-0.5
11.EMBU-0.3
12.OTHERS-0.8
TOTAL=19.6

Kalenjins deserve 2 cabinet posts at most. Pork Watauga kwa tv

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Re: Voter roll by tribe-GEMA tyranny
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2020, 06:19:51 PM »
Merus can produce a serious running mate if they ditatch from okuyus.

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Re: Voter roll by tribe-GEMA tyranny
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2020, 06:21:05 PM »
When did Luos overtake kalenjin and luhya...who died.

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Re: Voter roll by tribe-GEMA tyranny
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2020, 06:28:03 PM »
Ask IEBC

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Re: Voter roll by tribe-GEMA tyranny
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2020, 06:36:30 PM »
When did IEBC make these claims?
Census 2019 is only reliable data we have
Luos and Kambas cluster together at 10-11%.
Kalenjin and Luhya cluster together at 13-14%
Kikuyus are 17%
Gusii, Meru, and Somalis now cluster at 5%.

Work with that... GEMA has a headstart ..maybe >25% if you factor more adults than children.

Ask IEBC

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Re: Voter roll by tribe-GEMA tyranny
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2020, 06:52:40 PM »
Kalenjins have a lot of children that is the only explanation..anyway there is no kaelnjins ..Nandi wako among others

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Re: Voter roll by tribe-GEMA tyranny
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2020, 06:57:38 PM »
2009 - Kalenjin were 4.9m - kikuyus 6.6M - 1.7m
2019 - Kalenjin are 6.3m - kikuyus are 8.1 - 1.8m
So Kikuyu population seem to have magically grown - Dr Zach Mwangi and Uhuru cooked census. When Ruto does the 2029 census we will overtake kikuyus.

It obvious 2019 census was cooked when Kikuyus figured out their propaganda about one shilling one vote had no data basis.

Kalenjins have a lot of children that is the only explanation..anyway there is no kaelnjins ..Nandi wako among others

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Re: Voter roll by tribe-GEMA tyranny
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2020, 07:02:37 PM »
2009 - Kalenjin were 4.9m - kikuyus 6.6M - 1.7m
2019 - Kalenjin are 6.3m - kikuyus are 8.1 - 1.8m
So Kikuyu population seem to have magically grown - Dr Zach Mwangi and Uhuru cooked census. When Ruto does the 2029 census we will overtake kikuyus.

It obvious 2019 census was cooked when Kikuyus figured out their propaganda about one shilling one vote had no data basis.

Kalenjins have a lot of children that is the only explanation..anyway there is no kaelnjins ..Nandi wako among others

There no tribe called Kalenjin. We have Nandis, Pokot, Tugen etc ,,Kikuyus is the only stand alone tribe that has a massive population that no other tribe will catch up to

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Re: Voter roll by tribe-GEMA tyranny
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2020, 07:06:47 PM »
When did IEBC make these claims?
Census 2019 is only reliable data we have
Luos and Kambas cluster together at 10-11%.
Kalenjin and Luhya cluster together at 13-14%
Kikuyus are 17%
Gusii, Meru, and Somalis now cluster at 5%.

Work with that... GEMA has a headstart ..maybe >25% if you factor more adults than children.

Ask IEBC

That is why I asked for methodology.  I thought Pajero had done something like looking at the last name of every voter and determining the tribe.  Because only the census cares explicitly about the tribe.
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Re: Voter roll by tribe-GEMA tyranny
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2020, 07:17:53 PM »
Pundit is  missing the point here,this is not population census,this is number of registered voters as per IEBC register.There is no co-relation between the two.Kalenjins and luhyas may be more than luos population wise but are trailing luos in number of registered voters.
And by the way,i have usually doubted that census data,more so the luhya and kalenjin  numbers.

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Re: Voter roll by tribe-GEMA tyranny
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2020, 07:27:41 PM »
Based on the current IEBC register
1.KIKUYU-4.8M
2.LUO-2.7M
3.KALENJIN-2.4M
4.LUHYA-2.2M
5.KAMBA-2M
6.MERU-1M
7.KISII-0.9
8.SOMALIS-0.7
9.MAASAIS-0.5
10.MIJIKENDA-0.5
11.EMBU-0.3
12.OTHERS-0.8
TOTAL=19.6
Looks kinda credible but am assuming its an estimate it will change by 2022. Somalis and other herders have higher population but its below 18 and many wont make into 18 due to several factors causing there life expectancy to be low,thats why Merus and Kikuyus have that high registered voters as the demographic is mostly above 18. Actually Meru has the highest life expectancy in Kenya.

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Re: Voter roll by tribe-GEMA tyranny
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2020, 07:35:05 PM »
Pundit is  missing the point here,this is not population census,this is number of registered voters as per IEBC register.There is no co-relation between the two.Kalenjins and luhyas may be more than luos population wise but are trailing luos in number of registered voters.
And by the way,i have usually doubted that census data,more so the luhya and kalenjin  numbers.

So you have an issue with the census(not entirely wrong) and are basing this on the IEBC register.  How are you deriving the tribe from the register?
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Re: Voter roll by tribe-GEMA tyranny
« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2020, 07:38:31 PM »
Merus can produce a serious running mate if they ditatch from okuyus.
Kabilas have always wanted us to detach from okuyu..calling us all names... .. But we are more than wise NOT stupid, we are not rebels without a cause unless you wanted us to be in opposition all those years, being with kikuyus has enabled Merus to sit on Mbig table and get the leftovers after the 2 Mbig fishes get their stomachs full, we dont mind the left overs, on the contrary Luos, kambas, luhya kisii with much huge population than Merus struggle, for us its a good survival strategy that brought us to the verge of being DP before gatheca threw a spanner in the works. We wouldn't just go for DP just for the sake and be in  opposition. We know kabilas would be very happy for merus to be their. We are sticking with Hustler because its a sure bet unlike supporting baba

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Re: Voter roll by tribe-GEMA tyranny
« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2020, 01:26:02 AM »
2009 - Kalenjin were 4.9m - kikuyus 6.6M - 1.7m
2019 - Kalenjin are 6.3m - kikuyus are 8.1 - 1.8m
So Kikuyu population seem to have magically grown - Dr Zach Mwangi and Uhuru cooked census. When Ruto does the 2029 census we will overtake kikuyus.

It obvious 2019 census was cooked when Kikuyus figured out their propaganda about one shilling one vote had no data basis.

Kalenjins have a lot of children that is the only explanation..anyway there is no kaelnjins ..Nandi wako among others

There no tribe called Kalenjin. We have Nandis, Pokot, Tugen etc ,,Kikuyus is the only stand alone tribe that has a massive population that no other tribe will catch up to

Nyeri, Muranga, Kirinyaga and Kiambu could be thought of as separate tribes in a federation also. Kikuyus are bunched in a small geographical area while Kalenjins are dispersed. But let not truth get in the way of tribal propaganda.
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Re: Voter roll by tribe-GEMA tyranny
« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2020, 01:58:29 AM »
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What do you smoke? Kikuyus are one monolithic  homogeneous  tribe. There is a big difference of a tugen  and a Nandi.  Moi created the kalenjin to compete with kikuyus. Everyone is reacting due to kikuyu numbers  domination. This couple with financial muscle kikuyus can rule Kenya till 2060

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Re: Voter roll by tribe-GEMA tyranny
« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2020, 04:02:10 AM »
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What do you smoke? Kikuyus are one monolithic  homogeneous  tribe. There is a big difference of a tugen  and a Nandi.  Moi created the kalenjin to compete with kikuyus. Everyone is reacting due to kikuyu numbers  domination. This couple with financial muscle kikuyus can rule Kenya till 2060

So why do Kirinyaga want to be out of Kikuyu and join Embu? You have no financial muscle, you have been busy looting the state since independence. Wahindis are the real financial muscle without government patronage or stealing.
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Re: Voter roll by tribe-GEMA tyranny
« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2020, 04:03:12 AM »
Acadian
What do you smoke? Kikuyus are one monolithic  homogeneous  tribe. There is a big difference of a tugen  and a Nandi.  Moi created the kalenjin to compete with kikuyus. Everyone is reacting due to kikuyu numbers  domination. This couple with financial muscle kikuyus can rule Kenya till 2060

So why do Kirinyaga want to be out of Kikuyu and join Embu? You have no financial muscle, you have been busy looting the state since independence. Wahindis are the real financial muscle without government patronage or stealing.

If government looting was the source we would have become poorer during moi time

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Re: Voter roll by tribe-GEMA tyranny
« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2020, 04:27:33 AM »
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What do you smoke? Kikuyus are one monolithic  homogeneous  tribe. There is a big difference of a tugen  and a Nandi.  Moi created the kalenjin to compete with kikuyus. Everyone is reacting due to kikuyu numbers  domination. This couple with financial muscle kikuyus can rule Kenya till 2060

So why do Kirinyaga want to be out of Kikuyu and join Embu? You have no financial muscle, you have been busy looting the state since independence. Wahindis are the real financial muscle without government patronage or stealing.

If government looting was the source we would have become poorer during moi time

You did become poorer, Kibaki's tenure was when they had to reboot the plunder on grand scale. That was when you the Mwirarias, the Murungarus and the like. Real wealth creation is beyond your scope and probably most mwafrika. Graft, malfeasance, corruption is wealth destruction, robbing Paul to pay Peter scheme.
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