Author Topic: Kinoti jailed - this just but the start - Matiangi & KIbicho are in for SHOCK  (Read 898 times)

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COK 2010 constitution sio Mchezo.

https://nation.africa/kenya/news/high-court-judge-sends-dci-boss-george-kinoti-to-prison--3623048

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Big change in good direction. Not just Matiangi and Kibicho but also high priest. According to Pundit theory should Meru or Embu start PEV?
Celebratory violence: 2017 crime invented to justify killings to prevent Raila from becoming PORK. http://www.nipate.com/download/file.php?id=4244

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 :D :D :D

Big change in good direction. Not just Matiangi and Kibicho but also high priest. According to Pundit theory should Meru or Embu start PEV?

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The Judiciary is so tainted that Kenyans do not have faith or trust in these judgements. How is DCI supposed to return guns to someone whose gun ownership was revoked? These idiot judges are the high priests of corruption and Kenya will never change as long as we have these corrupt and incompetent justice system, everyone knows that they can literally get away with murder. If Raila forms the next govt, this is the starting point, this should be his legacy, forget roads na kadhalika, reform the justice system and everything else falls in place.

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The Judiciary is so tainted that Kenyans do not have faith or trust in these judgements. How is DCI supposed to return guns to someone whose gun ownership was revoked? These idiot judges are the high priests of corruption and Kenya will never change as long as we have these corrupt and incompetent justice system, everyone knows that they can literally get away with murder. If Raila forms the next govt, this is the starting point, this should be his legacy, forget roads na kadhalika, reform the justice system and everything else falls in place.

Wrong. Wanjigi had valid license.

https://nation.africa/kenya/news/court-orders-police-to-return-jimi-wanjigi-s-guns-3291156
Celebratory violence: 2017 crime invented to justify killings to prevent Raila from becoming PORK. http://www.nipate.com/download/file.php?id=4244

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Kinoti will just tell them to shove and he should, most of our judges if not collecting bribes are alcoholics.

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Let him try. Court dead serious Kinoti is not prezzo or DP. He has many good enemies all over who want to see his back maybe he can appeal or apologize.
Celebratory violence: 2017 crime invented to justify killings to prevent Raila from becoming PORK. http://www.nipate.com/download/file.php?id=4244

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The judiciary is the weakest branch of government and cannot win a full blown war with the Judiciary, especially a judiciary ran by a cartel.  They do not have an army or the power of the purse.  This judiciary should pick its wars very carefully.
He is not going to jail!!! Ruto will not even let that happen or he loses the Meru vote.
« Last Edit: November 18, 2021, 04:45:05 PM by Kichwa »

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what will the judiciary do is the proper question.  They do not have an army or money.

What will he do?
« Last Edit: November 18, 2021, 04:46:20 PM by Kichwa »
Celebratory violence: 2017 crime invented to justify killings to prevent Raila from becoming PORK. http://www.nipate.com/download/file.php?id=4244

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You can't argue with court orders.You appeal the decision and get a stay.You cannot act on orders of above.Cok2010 say president should give you written order.Kibicho and matiangi next destination is kamiti too..plus being bankrupted

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Works of art even if bad memories can remain. Removing is like Taliban bombing Buddhist monument because they have new religion. Racism can be condemned without destroying art.
Celebratory violence: 2017 crime invented to justify killings to prevent Raila from becoming PORK. http://www.nipate.com/download/file.php?id=4244

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Who has stopped Uhuru from prosecuting Ruto. Kibaki did...in a criminal case. Uhuru has weston land. Anybody who falls foul of the law pays the price. You better stop Ruto now because when he is PORK he will be above the law for 10yrs - he wont be charged for any criminal case.

As for Uhuru, Matiangi, Kibicho and rest - who are now flouting court orders - next gov may decide to enforce them...as the court will also find them in violation if they do not obey court orders.

One thing Moi never did was to disobey court orders....he made sure they were never issued.

Now COK2010 has cured lots of problems in Moi era - No orders from above. It has to be written. Anyone is personally responsible for any finnacial loss.


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You remind me of an interesting thing. Moi made sure if he was going to do something nasty the law allowed him to. If he was going to post bank he appointed a drunken fish then asked Kulei or Kiptanui or Biwott to tell the idiot to withdraw 50m and deliver to state house immediately and keep it confidential.

Such a case came up and Mutula kilonzo was all over asking the guy to show him any signature reading Moi.

Now Moi wasn't a very educated man but he'd never lock Miguna out of the country because he had read Machiavelli. You don't promote patriotism by excluding citizens. You do the opposite so that you citizens feel safe and secure in their country and not fear being deported.

He'd never disobey and order. Would buy a judge to remove or modify it.

If the Kinoti judgment had happened under Moi kinoti would wake to being arrested! Moi believed rightly that citizens can cut him an extra slack of sympathy as the ruler but won't tolerate any of his subordinates doing the same.
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That is why he did 25yrs - despite foreign powers trying to bring him down in 90s with sever aid and budget cuts at time kenya was very poor.
And Moi was never called to answer any of his excess.
And when called Mutula had an easy job.

Now these Matiangi-Kibicho and their boys - next year - they will be in court - then Kamiti if not bankrupted.

You remind me of an interesting thing. Moi made sure if he was going to do something nasty the law allowed him to. If he was going to post bank he appointed a drunken fish then asked Kulei or Kiptanui or Biwott to tell the idiot to withdraw 50m and deliver to state house immediately and keep it confidential.

Such a case came up and Mutula kilonzo was all over asking the guy to show him any signature reading Moi.

Now Moi wasn't a very educated man but he'd never lock Miguna out of the country because he had read Machiavelli. You don't promote patriotism by excluding citizens. You do the opposite so that you citizens feel safe and secure in their country and not fear being deported.

He'd never disobey and order. Would buy a judge to remove or modify it.

If the Kinoti judgment had happened under Moi kinoti would wake to being arrested! Moi believed rightly that citizens can cut him an extra slack of sympathy as the ruler but won't tolerate any of his subordinates doing the same.