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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Nowayhaha on October 01, 2021, 03:25:31 PM
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Between Kibaki and Raila who really rigged the elections ? Based on the Voter Turn Out Be the Judge
https://aceproject.org/regions-en/countries-and-territories/KE/reports/Presidential_Results.pdf
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Makadara - Turnout 59.61%
Kamukunji -Turnout -
Starehe -Turnout -53.40 %
Langata- Turnout -61.76%
Dagoretti -Turnout 47.17 %
Westlands -Turnout 55.97 %
Kasarani - Turnout -63.78 %
Embakasi -Turnout - 56.47 %
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Changamwe -Turnout 30.33%
Kisauni -Turnout -52.07 %
Likoni Turnout -46.16 %
Mvita -Turnout 43.49 %
Msambweni -Turnout 54.88 %
Matuga - Turnout 54.25 %
Kinango -Turnout -59.01
Bahari -Turnout -48.64 %
Kaloleni -Turnout 48.43 %
Ganze - Turnout 54.83 %
Malindi -Turnout 45.33%
Magarini Turnout -52.11 %
Garsen -Turnout 61.19 %
Galole - Turnout 63.74 %
Bura - Turnout -64.65 %
Lamu East - Turnout 71.79 %
Lamu West - Turnout 66.98%
Taveta -Turnout 67.65 %
Wundanyi - Turnout 55.98 %
Mwatate- Turnout 52.77 %
Voi - Turnout -57.25 %
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You need to do a variance btw 1992/1997/2002/2005 and 2007 -then you will see the outliers.
There are regions that historical have high voter turn out...also low voter turnout.
But when you have Mandera popping 90 percent voter turnout like 2013 - then kimeibwa.
And that after elders of Mandera had long decided all candidates.
If NASA had focussed on Mandera - in 2013 - they would have annualed election coz Uhuru had razor thin margin over 50 percent.
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Dujis Turnout -53.93 %
Ladgera -Turnout 54.88 %
Fafi - Turnout -56.77 %
Ijara -Turnout 61.91 %
Wajir North - Turnout 72.60 %
Wajir West -Turnout 53.58 %
Wajir East -Turnout 59.55 %
Wajir South -Turnout 56.23 %
Mandera West -Turnout 64.81 %
Mandera Central Turnout -74.89 %
Mandera East -Turnout -66.26 %
Moyale -Turnout 71.43 %
North Horr -Turnout 76.83 %
SAKU -Turnout 73.86 %
Laisamis -Turnout 77.72 %
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Dont waste your time; The rigging was brazen
https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/world/article24475582.html
In at least 44 out of 210 constituencies, officials in Nairobi had announced vote totals without any supporting documents from the polling centers. In most places the announced totals were off by hundreds or thousands from what journalists, party agents and foreign observers had witnessed at polling places.
The file for Kieni in central Kenya showed 87,500 parliamentary votes — nearly 3,000 more than the number of registered voters. The file for Imenti South district, where Kibaki had 96 percent support, showed 4,315 more presidential votes than parliamentary votes but contained no supporting documents. At 5 a.m. on Dec. 30, the file for another central district, Molo, finally appeared showing 50,145 votes for Kibaki. The chairman later announced 75,261.
"They just gave Kibaki 25,000 votes from the air," Muli said.
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Isiolo North -Turnout 64.20 %
Isiolo South -Turnout 79.95 %
Igembe South -Turnout 76.25 %
Igembe North -Turnout 75.30 %
Tiganis West -Turnout 74.64 %
Tigania East Turnout 78.81 %
Buret -Turnout 85.92 %
Central Imenti -Turnout -57.78 %
South Imenti -Turnout 83.06 %
NITHI -Turnout 79.85 %
THARAKA -Turnout 72.17 %
Manyatta Turnout 72.75 %
Runyenjes - Turnout 80.38 %
Gachoka - Turnout 75.84 %
Siakago- Turnout -80.29 %
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Mwingi North -Turnout 70.11 %
Mwingi South -Turnout 73.67 %
Kitui West -Turnout -75.59 %
Kitui Central -Turnout 62.85 %
Mutito -Turnout 70.47 %
Kitui South -Turnout 69.08 %
Masinga - Turnout 45.50 %
Yatta -Turnout 66.56 %
Kangundo -Turnout 64.18 %
Kathiani -Turnout -74.30 %
Machakos Town- 51.29 %
Mwala -Turnout 70.98 %
Mbooni -Turnout 69.80 %
Kilome -Turnout 77.47 %
Kaiti - Turnout 71.83 %
Makueni -Turnout 69.42 %
Kibwezi -Turnout 67.06 %
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How does it disapprove rigging?
What was rigged - was obvious - observers, agents, the media - in those constituencies filled different results.
The dead give away was the hoarding or holding of mt kenya constituencies until ODM zones had come in
So they would know the top up required.
Isiolo North -Turnout 64.20 %
Isiolo South -Turnout 79.95 %
Igembe South -Turnout 76.25 %
Igembe North -Turnout 75.30 %
Tiganis West -Turnout 74.64 %
Tigania East Turnout 78.81 %
Buret -Turnout 85.92 %
Central Imenti -Turnout -57.78 %
South Imenti -Turnout 83.06 %
NITHI -Turnout 79.85 %
THARAKA -Turnout 72.17 %
Manyatta Turnout 72.75 %
Runyenjes - Turnout 80.38 %
Gachoka - Turnout 75.84 %
Siakago- Turnout -80.29 %
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Kinangop - Turnout 84.7 %
Kipipiri -Turnout 81.91 %
Ol Kalou - Turnout 86.4 %
Ndaragwa -Turnout 86.21 %
Tetu -Turnout -87.72 %
Kieni -Turnout 86.27 %
Mathira -Turnout 84.37 %
Othaya -Turnout 89.70 %
Mukurweini -Turnout 86.86 %
Nyeri Town -Turnout 79.98 %
Mwea -Turnout -81.96 %
Gichugu -Turnout 82.56 %
Ndia-Turnout 81.60 %
Kirinyaga Central -Turnout 80.40 %
Mathioya -Turnout 81.65 %
Kiharu -Turnout 82.15 %
Kigumo -Turnout 88.07 %
Maragwa -Turnout 85.24 %
Kandara -Turnout 83.20 %
Garanga -Turnout 85.58 %
Gatundu South -Turnout 82.50 %
Gatundu North -Turnout 78.60 %
Juja- Turnout 73.30 %
Githunguri Turnout -81.88 %
Kiambaa -Turnout 78.20 %
Kikuyu -Turnout 81.79 %
Limuru -Turnout 79.58 %
Lari -Turnout -84.33 %
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Turkana North -Turnout 43.43%
Turkana - Central Turnout -56.35 %
Turkana South -Turnout -45.84 %
Kacheliba -Turnout 62.24 %
Kapenguria -Turnout 72.45 %
Samburu West -Turnout 66.70 %
Samburu East -Turnout 63.18 %
Kwanza -Turnout 55.81 %
Saboti -Turnout 61.57 %
Cherangany -Turnout 70.45 %
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Elsoret North -Turnout 73.47 %
Eldoret East - Turnout 83.91 %
Eldoret South -Turnout 72.20 %
Marakwet East -Turnout 79.35 %
Marakwet West -Turnout 83.48 %
Keiyo South -Turnout 82.72 %
Keiyo South -Turnout 81.54 %
Mosop -Turnout 83.27 %
Aldai -Turnout 79.27 %
Emgwen-Turnout 75.98 %
Tinderet -Turnout 76.39 %
Baringo East -Turnout 61.52 %
Baringo North -Turnout 85.78 %
Baringo Central -Turnout 83.32 %
Mogotio -Turnout 84.69 %
Eldama Ravine -Turnout 82.30 %
Kuresoi -Turnout 77.95 %
Bomet -Turnout 81.00%
Chepalungu -Turnout 79.81 %
Sotik- Turnout 85.44 %
Konoin -Turnout 79.68 %
Belgut -Turnout -80.25 %
Ainamoi -Turnout 76.47 %
Kipkelion -Turnout 80.39 %
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Laikipia West Turnout 76.00 %
Laikipia East -Turnout 71.92 %
Naivasha -Turnout 57.19 %
Nakuru Town - Turnout 63.41 %
Molo -Turnout -79.19 %
Rongai Turnout -76.46 %
Subukia -Turnout 85.85 %
Kilgoris -Turnout 43.23 %
Narok North -Turnout -82.11 %
Narok South -Turnout 69.29 %
Kajiado North -Turnout 74.40 %
Kajiado Central -Turnout 80.23 %
Loitokitok -Turnout 77.88 %
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Malava -Turnout 54.46 %
Lugari -Turnout 59.24 %
Mumias -Turnout 65.83 %
Matungu -Turnout 68.43 %
Lurambi -Turnout 52.65 %
Shinyalu -Turnout 59.31 %
Ikolomani -Turnout 61.52 %
Butere -Turnout -64.02 %
Kwisero -Turnout 60.53 %
Emuhaya -Turnout 58.22 %
Sabatia -Turnout 68.54 %
Vihiga-Turnout -62.61 %
Hamisi Turnout -60.79 %
Mt Elgon -Turnout 69.28 %
Kimilili -Turnout 64.26 %
Webuye -Turnout 65.12 %
Sirisia-Turnout 65.77 %
Bumula - Turnout 65.85 %
Amagoro -Turnout 68.55 %
Nambale -Turnout 67.09 %
Butula - Turnout 69.28 %
Funyula -Turnout 74.33 %
Budalangi -Turnout 72.27 %
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Ugenya -Turnout 76.35 %
Alego-Turnout 88.11 %
Gem -Turnout 77.68 %
Bondo - Turnout 85.45 %
Rarienda - Turnout 77.04 %
Kisumu Town East -Turnout 74.14 %
Kisumu Town West -Turnout 67.77 %
Kisumu Rural -Turnout 84.51 %
Nyando Turnout 82.20 %
Muhoroni -Turnout 72.15 %
Nyakach -Turn Out -81.63 %
Kasipul Kabondo -Turnout 88.66 %
Karachuonyo-Turnout 95.37 %
Rangwe -Turnout 87.95
Ndhiwa -Turnout 93.74 %
Rongo -Turnout 85.46%
Migori-Turnout -85.43 %
Uriri -Turnout 87.07 %
Nyatike -Turnout 94.83 %
Mbita -Turnout 95.57 %
Gwassi -Turnout 92.68 %
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Kuria Turnout 68.49 %
Bonchari -Turnout 66.76 %
South Mugirango -Turnout 66.80 %
Bomachoge -Turnout 64.78 %
Bobasi -Turnout 65.74 %
Nyaribari Masaba-Turnout 61.24 %
Nyaribari Chache -Turnout 60.52 %
Kitutu Chache -Turnout 58.49 %
Kitutu Masaba -Turnout 67.69 %
West Mugirango -Turnout 66.32 %
North Mugirango -Turnout 67.12 %
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It doesnt dissaprove rigging , It actually confirms Raila and ODM rigged heavily in their strong - Only in Luo Nyanza had places with 95 % Voter Turn Out .
ODM also started announcing results through media friendly stations like KTN when they had not been verified . One reason in 2013 and 2017 Media houses were asked only to rely on results from IEBC was because of this reason .
Part of ODMs strategy was to send in rigged in results from their stronghold and then claim they had won so that PNU plays catch up game and concedes early . PNU patience helped them in 2007 unlike Uhurus 2002 he conceded even when results had not been counted or announced .
Like it or Not Raila heavily stole 2007 votes .
How does it disapprove rigging?
What was rigged - was obvious - observers, agents, the media - in those constituencies filled different results.
The dead give away was the hoarding or holding of mt kenya constituencies until ODM zones had come in
So they would know the top up required.
Isiolo North -Turnout 64.20 %
Isiolo South -Turnout 79.95 %
Igembe South -Turnout 76.25 %
Igembe North -Turnout 75.30 %
Tiganis West -Turnout 74.64 %
Tigania East Turnout 78.81 %
Buret -Turnout 85.92 %
Central Imenti -Turnout -57.78 %
South Imenti -Turnout 83.06 %
NITHI -Turnout 79.85 %
THARAKA -Turnout 72.17 %
Manyatta Turnout 72.75 %
Runyenjes - Turnout 80.38 %
Gachoka - Turnout 75.84 %
Siakago- Turnout -80.29 %
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You're shameless cartoon. IEBC or CCK were announcing results. NOT ODM. PNU prevented ECK from announcing the results.
ODM rigged the usual - where local people say in a primary school - collude to inflate votes - that is local ODM officials or villagers just rigging. This is Okay. That kind of rigging is hard to stop.
It not Orange House rigging. It's NOT Raila making a phone call to Awendo Primary School to be rigged - it's Awendo villagers deciding to give Raila all the votes - by colluding with junior IEBC staff and agents.
How can you therefore blame Raila for such stronghold rigging - it's like blaming Ruto for kalenjin warriors deciding to kill their political rivals. It was not Raila fault if Luo Nyanza decided to rig at granular level. It's not Ruto fault if kalenjin decide to go on killing rampage.
It doesnt dissaprove rigging , It actually confirms Raila and ODM rigged heavily in their strong - Only in Luo Nyanza had places with 95 % Voter Turn Out .
ODM also started announcing results through media friendly stations like KTN when they had not been verified . One reason in 2013 and 2017 Media houses were asked only to rely on results from IEBC was because of this reason .
Part of ODMs strategy was to send in rigged in results from their stronghold and then claim they had won so that PNU plays catch up game and concedes early . PNU patience helped them in 2007 unlike Uhurus 2002 he conceded even when results had not been counted or announced .
Like it or Not Raila heavily stole 2007 votes .
How does it disapprove rigging?
What was rigged - was obvious - observers, agents, the media - in those constituencies filled different results.
The dead give away was the hoarding or holding of mt kenya constituencies until ODM zones had come in
So they would know the top up required.
Isiolo North -Turnout 64.20 %
Isiolo South -Turnout 79.95 %
Igembe South -Turnout 76.25 %
Igembe North -Turnout 75.30 %
Tiganis West -Turnout 74.64 %
Tigania East Turnout 78.81 %
Buret -Turnout 85.92 %
Central Imenti -Turnout -57.78 %
South Imenti -Turnout 83.06 %
NITHI -Turnout 79.85 %
THARAKA -Turnout 72.17 %
Manyatta Turnout 72.75 %
Runyenjes - Turnout 80.38 %
Gachoka - Turnout 75.84 %
Siakago- Turnout -80.29 %
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You are arguing with someone who refuses to accept the obvious. Even my diehard Kibaki fans do admit today Kibaki rigged the 2007 elections to his favour.
The then IEBC chairman admitted openly to have not known who won the presidential election. If he did not know, who is Nowayhaha to claim Kibaki won?
That election theft will remain a blemish on Kibaki's presidency. He will be remembered for taking Kenya's economy out of the ICU, but also for taking the country to a political turmoil, whose effects are felt today and will last for decades.
You're shameless cartoon. IEBC or CCK were announcing results. NOT ODM. PNU prevented ECK from announcing the results.
ODM rigged the usual - where local people say in a primary school - collude to inflate votes - that is local ODM officials.
It not Orange House rigging.
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I cant help it. I cannot understand why someone would lie for politician or for political stuff or for tribe? If rigging happens in my kapsenger primary - and I witness it - I will say it.
Nowayaha tribalism is so ingrained it amazing the length he goes to protect uthamaki :)
Now re-writting history.
Man Kibaki rigged. Moi rigged. Kibaki did it brazenly and spark a war. 1992 I heard of ballot stuffing from my dad. 1997 I heard Kones in loud speaker asking people to go vote the next day - until all ECK materials were out - then Moi had forced ECK to extend voting day after some polling stations did not get materials.
Politician are thieves. Our own family members are also thieves.
Politician rigs. Innocent villagers also rig.
You are arguing with someone who refuses to accept the obvious. Even my diehard Kibaki fans do admit today Kibaki rigged the 2007 elections to his favour.
The then IEBC chairman admitted openly to have not known who won the presidential election. If he did not know, who is Nowayhaha to claim Kibaki won?
That election theft will remain a blemish on Kibaki's presidency. He will be remembered for taking Kenya's economy out of the ICU, but also for taking the country to a political turmoil, whose effects are felt today and will last for decades.
You're shameless cartoon. IEBC or CCK were announcing results. NOT ODM. PNU prevented ECK from announcing the results.
ODM rigged the usual - where local people say in a primary school - collude to inflate votes - that is local ODM officials.
It not Orange House rigging.
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Tell me where on earth the below voter turn out can happen. And it happened in one region - This was systemic . Not related to any Ruto and violence in Rift Valley.
Mt Kenya hold Raila accountable of 2007 P.E.V. nothing to do with Ruto .Dont turn this thread to a violence thread which is your habit once your myths are debunked .
Karachuonyo-Turnout 95.37 %
Ndhiwa -Turnout 93.74 %
Nyatike -Turnout 94.83 %
Mbita -Turnout 95.57 %
Gwassi -Turnout 92.68 %
You're shameless cartoon. IEBC or CCK were announcing results. NOT ODM. PNU prevented ECK from announcing the results.
ODM rigged the usual - where local people say in a primary school - collude to inflate votes - that is local ODM officials or villagers just rigging. This is Okay. That kind of rigging is hard to stop.
It not Orange House rigging. It's NOT Raila making a phone call to Awendo Primary School to be rigged - it's Awendo villagers deciding to give Raila all the votes - by colluding with junior IEBC staff and agents.
How can you therefore blame Raila for such stronghold rigging - it's like blaming Ruto for kalenjin warriors deciding to kill their political rivals. It was not Raila fault if Luo Nyanza decided to rig at granular level. It's not Ruto fault if kalenjin decide to go on killing rampage.
It doesnt dissaprove rigging , It actually confirms Raila and ODM rigged heavily in their strong - Only in Luo Nyanza had places with 95 % Voter Turn Out .
ODM also started announcing results through media friendly stations like KTN when they had not been verified . One reason in 2013 and 2017 Media houses were asked only to rely on results from IEBC was because of this reason .
Part of ODMs strategy was to send in rigged in results from their stronghold and then claim they had won so that PNU plays catch up game and concedes early . PNU patience helped them in 2007 unlike Uhurus 2002 he conceded even when results had not been counted or announced .
Like it or Not Raila heavily stole 2007 votes .
How does it disapprove rigging?
What was rigged - was obvious - observers, agents, the media - in those constituencies filled different results.
The dead give away was the hoarding or holding of mt kenya constituencies until ODM zones had come in
So they would know the top up required.
Isiolo North -Turnout 64.20 %
Isiolo South -Turnout 79.95 %
Igembe South -Turnout 76.25 %
Igembe North -Turnout 75.30 %
Tiganis West -Turnout 74.64 %
Tigania East Turnout 78.81 %
Buret -Turnout 85.92 %
Central Imenti -Turnout -57.78 %
South Imenti -Turnout 83.06 %
NITHI -Turnout 79.85 %
THARAKA -Turnout 72.17 %
Manyatta Turnout 72.75 %
Runyenjes - Turnout 80.38 %
Gachoka - Turnout 75.84 %
Siakago- Turnout -80.29 %
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Kadudu my question is very clear - Did Raila rig 2007 elections or not ? forget Kibaki for a minute and answer the question .
You are arguing with someone who refuses to accept the obvious. Even my diehard Kibaki fans do admit today Kibaki rigged the 2007 elections to his favour.
The then IEBC chairman admitted openly to have not known who won the presidential election. If he did not know, who is Nowayhaha to claim Kibaki won?
That election theft will remain a blemish on Kibaki's presidency. He will be remembered for taking Kenya's economy out of the ICU, but also for taking the country to a political turmoil, whose effects are felt today and will last for decades.
You're shameless cartoon. IEBC or CCK were announcing results. NOT ODM. PNU prevented ECK from announcing the results.
ODM rigged the usual - where local people say in a primary school - collude to inflate votes - that is local ODM officials.
It not Orange House rigging.
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This kind of rigging happens in strongholds. Anywhere a candidate scores 97 percent - then such rigging are expected. They are indeed systemic - not engineered by Raila or ODM - but by Kenyans.
If you check turnout in Mt kenya - you will find similar patterns like Luo Nyanza - when they have their own candidate.
It's either people really mobilize - and also little rigging here and there.
Such rigging are not attributable to ODM party or Raila - it's just Kenya lack of moral ethic or importance of election in the election wars.
The parrellel i am giving you is tribal violence. It doesnt have to be planned.
Tell me where on earth the below voter turn out can happen. And it happened in one region - This was systemic . Not related to any Ruto and violence in Rift Valley.
Mt Kenya hold Raila accountable of 2007 P.E.V. nothing to do with Ruto .Dont turn this thread to a violence thread which is your habit once your myths are debunked .
Karachuonyo-Turnout 95.37 %
Ndhiwa -Turnout 93.74 %
Nyatike -Turnout 94.83 %
Mbita -Turnout 95.57 %
Gwassi -Turnout 92.68 %
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I think I have said my bit in the other thread about rigging .
My Point is Raila rigged 2007 elections in his strongholds - This is a fact - Before and after rigging he went accusing the competitor about rigging forgeting he also brazenly rigged in his strongolds .
My question to you also RV - Leave Kibaki out of this - DID RAILA AND ODM PARTICIPATE IN RIGGING 2007 Elections?
I cant help it. I cannot understand why someone would lie for politician or for political stuff or for tribe? If rigging happens in my kapsenger primary - and I witness it - I will say it.
Nowayaha tribalism is so ingrained it amazing the length he goes to protect uthamaki :)
Now re-writting history.
Man Kibaki rigged. Moi rigged. Kibaki did it brazenly and spark a war. 1992 I heard of ballot stuffing from my dad. 1997 I heard Kones in loud speaker asking people to go vote the next day - until all ECK materials were out - then Moi had forced ECK to extend voting day after some polling stations did not get materials.
Politician are thieves. Our own family members are also thieves.
Politician rigs. Innocent villagers also rig.
You are arguing with someone who refuses to accept the obvious. Even my diehard Kibaki fans do admit today Kibaki rigged the 2007 elections to his favour.
The then IEBC chairman admitted openly to have not known who won the presidential election. If he did not know, who is Nowayhaha to claim Kibaki won?
That election theft will remain a blemish on Kibaki's presidency. He will be remembered for taking Kenya's economy out of the ICU, but also for taking the country to a political turmoil, whose effects are felt today and will last for decades.
You're shameless cartoon. IEBC or CCK were announcing results. NOT ODM. PNU prevented ECK from announcing the results.
ODM rigged the usual - where local people say in a primary school - collude to inflate votes - that is local ODM officials.
It not Orange House rigging.
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ODM was in how many regions? Raila did not rig. Luos rigged. Even next year I expect Luos to rig for Raila - because IEBC staff, agents and name them - will all be Luos and ODM. It not unlikely that they will add 20 or 30 votes in every polling stations....on their OWN INITIATIVE.
Kadudu my question is very clear - Did Raila rig 2007 elections or not ? forget Kibaki for a minute and answer the question .
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No. Stronghold rigging has little to do with party. Any area where a candidate enjoy 98 percent - hapo rigging can happen. My father, mother and one guy use to be 3 voters who Kibaki use to get in const. So I know this kind of stuff. Any kibaki vote - would either be contested or just be dismissed as spoiled vote.
IEBC recruit local staff - any IEBC staff in Luo Nyanza is ODM/Raila guy - he doesnt need any ODM phonecall to ensure baba get MAXIMUM support - agents wote ni ODM - observers wote ni ODM-kila mtu ni want Baba to get max support.
They are very few say POs who are very strict and have high integrity - and those ones will refuse. Those are very few rare kenyans.
You are clearly NOT ONE OF THEM. You have zero integrity. You're here to defend tribe and kibaki against all LOGIC.
Like I said support Ruto - but please do not say he is not a THIEF :) - Hiyo UMBEYA :)
Support Kibaki - but admit he rigged.
It's either you have zero MORALS or you're VERY LOW IQ.
ODMorons wengine think Raila is NOT CORRUPT - while he is super corrupt.
LOW IQ or ZERO integrity.
I think I have said my bit in the other thread about rigging .
My Point is Raila rigged 2007 elections in his strongholds - This is a fact - Before and after rigging he went accusing the competitor about rigging forgeting he also brazenly rigged in his strongolds .
My question to you also RV - Leave Kibaki out of this - DID RAILA AND ODM PARTICIPATE IN RIGGING 2007 Elections?
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Thanks for confirming Raila and ODM rigged 2007 elections .
ODM was in how many regions? Raila did not rig. Luos rigged. Even next year I expect Luos to rig for Raila - because IEBC staff, agents and name them - will all be Luos and ODM. It not unlikely that they will add 20 or 30 votes in every polling stations....on their OWN INITIATIVE.
Kadudu my question is very clear - Did Raila rig 2007 elections or not ? forget Kibaki for a minute and answer the question .
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Thankyou for confirming once again ODM and Raila rigged 2007 elections .
No. Stronghold rigging has little to do with party. Any area where a candidate enjoy 98 percent - hapo rigging can happen. My father, mother and one guy use to be 3 voters who Kibaki use to get in const. So I know this kind of stuff. Any kibaki vote - would either be contested or just be dismissed as spoiled vote.
IEBC recruit local staff - any IEBC staff in Luo Nyanza is ODM/Raila guy - he doesnt need any ODM phonecall to ensure baba get MAXIMUM support - agents wote ni ODM - observers wote ni ODM-kila mtu ni want Baba to get max support.
They are very few say POs who are very strict and have high integrity - and those ones will refuse. Those are very few rare kenyans.
You are clearly NOT ONE OF THEM. You have zero integrity. You're here to defend tribe and kibaki against all LOGIC.
Like I said support Ruto - but please do not say he is not a THIEF :) - Hiyo UMBEYA :)
Support Kibaki - but admit he rigged.
It's either you have zero MORALS or you're VERY LOW IQ.
I think I have said my bit in the other thread about rigging .
My Point is Raila rigged 2007 elections in his strongholds - This is a fact - Before and after rigging he went accusing the competitor about rigging forgeting he also brazenly rigged in his strongolds .
My question to you also RV - Leave Kibaki out of this - DID RAILA AND ODM PARTICIPATE IN RIGGING 2007 Elections?
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There is no evidence that ODM as a party or Raila rigged. There is evidence that vote turnout in Luo Nyanza is suspicious and we know they most likely padded figures.
It's like Ruto and PEV. There is no denying that ODM supporters rigged and killed. But the link to Raila or Ruto is tenuous.
For kibaki it's different - the LINK IS STRONG.
Thankyou for confirming once again ODM and Raila rigged 2007 elections .
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Boss reread the below statement and you will see hypocrisy in it . Delink Kibaki and Ruto from Nyanza rigging and you will see crystal clear ODM and Raila rigged 2007 election in their strongholds
There is no evidence that ODM as a party or Raila rigged. There is evidence that vote turnout in Luo Nyanza is suspicious and we know they most likely padded figures.
It's like Ruto and PEV. There is no denying that ODM supporters rigged and killed. But the link to Raila or Ruto is tenuous.
For kibaki it's different - the LINK IS STRONG.
Thankyou for confirming once again ODM and Raila rigged 2007 elections .
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This is where the elections were rigged . ODM rigged 2007 elections
Ugenya -Turnout 76.35 %
Alego-Turnout 88.11 %
Gem -Turnout 77.68 %
Bondo - Turnout 85.45 %
Rarienda - Turnout 77.04 %
Kisumu Town East -Turnout 74.14 %
Kisumu Town West -Turnout 67.77 %
Kisumu Rural -Turnout 84.51 %
Nyando Turnout 82.20 %
Muhoroni -Turnout 72.15 %
Nyakach -Turn Out -81.63 %
Kasipul Kabondo -Turnout 88.66 %
Karachuonyo-Turnout 95.37 %
Rangwe -Turnout 87.95
Ndhiwa -Turnout 93.74 %
Rongo -Turnout 85.46%
Migori-Turnout -85.43 %
Uriri -Turnout 87.07 %
Nyatike -Turnout 94.83 %
Mbita -Turnout 95.57 %
Gwassi -Turnout 92.68 %
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I wish you could check turnout for 2005/2002/1997/1992 - some of those areas historical had high turnout - but I wont rule out rigging - there were no PNU agents.
This is where the elections were rigged . ODM rigged 2007 elections
Ugenya -Turnout 76.35 %
Alego-Turnout 88.11 %
Gem -Turnout 77.68 %
Bondo - Turnout 85.45 %
Rarienda - Turnout 77.04 %
Kisumu Town East -Turnout 74.14 %
Kisumu Town West -Turnout 67.77 %
Kisumu Rural -Turnout 84.51 %
Nyando Turnout 82.20 %
Muhoroni -Turnout 72.15 %
Nyakach -Turn Out -81.63 %
Kasipul Kabondo -Turnout 88.66 %
Karachuonyo-Turnout 95.37 %
Rangwe -Turnout 87.95
Ndhiwa -Turnout 93.74 %
Rongo -Turnout 85.46%
Migori-Turnout -85.43 %
Uriri -Turnout 87.07 %
Nyatike -Turnout 94.83 %
Mbita -Turnout 95.57 %
Gwassi -Turnout 92.68 %
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Thats it case closed.
I wish you could check turnout for 2005/2002/1997/1992 - some of those areas historical had high turnout - but I wont rule out rigging - there were no PNU agents.
This is where the elections were rigged . ODM rigged 2007 elections
Ugenya -Turnout 76.35 %
Alego-Turnout 88.11 %
Gem -Turnout 77.68 %
Bondo - Turnout 85.45 %
Rarienda - Turnout 77.04 %
Kisumu Town East -Turnout 74.14 %
Kisumu Town West -Turnout 67.77 %
Kisumu Rural -Turnout 84.51 %
Nyando Turnout 82.20 %
Muhoroni -Turnout 72.15 %
Nyakach -Turn Out -81.63 %
Kasipul Kabondo -Turnout 88.66 %
Karachuonyo-Turnout 95.37 %
Rangwe -Turnout 87.95
Ndhiwa -Turnout 93.74 %
Rongo -Turnout 85.46%
Migori-Turnout -85.43 %
Uriri -Turnout 87.07 %
Nyatike -Turnout 94.83 %
Mbita -Turnout 95.57 %
Gwassi -Turnout 92.68 %
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So I also participated in ODM rigging - this was MOASS 2007 - and I predicted such turnout. I generally predicted 10 percent increase in turnout from historical or 2005 average in most areas....with Luo and Kikuyu stronghold doing 15 percent more...because the candidate was theirs.
And this was what exactly played out except in Central - where turnout was off the charts (rigged)
MOAS 2007 - Sept Edition.
NYANZA PROV Reg Votes 05 % Turn Out(05) Exp Turn Out
Mbita 31172 71.60% 83.600%
Bobasi 64861 40.90% 55.900%
Gwassi 28494 65.10% 80.100%
Kuria 49555 52.10% 57.100%
Nyatike 42245 89.10% 96.100%
Bomachoge 57997 39.50% 44.500%
Rongo 58942 77.50% 89.500%
Bonchari 34278 45.10% 50.100%
Nyaribari Masaba 46239 41.20% 46.200%
Nyaribari Chache 51460 39.00% 44.000%
Kitutu Chache 67900 42.00% 47.000%
Kitutu Masaba 65854 41.50% 46.500%
West Mugirango 55295 43.20% 48.200%
South Mugirango 47162 39.70% 44.700%
Rarieda 43718 58.10% 73.100%
Uriri 34187 80.80% 95.800%
Migori 52589 74.30% 89.300%
Ugenya 70162 54.10% 69.100%
Bondo 47928 59.30% 74.300%
Kisumu Town East 44248 53.50% 68.500%
Kisumu Town West 71477 45.70% 60.700%
Kisumu Rural 43012 58.30% 73.300%
Nyando 44712 68.00% 83.000%
Gem 51920 52.70% 67.700%
Nyakach 45704 67.30% 82.300%
Kasipul Kabondo 64355 72.30% 87.300%
Karachuonyo 52606 78.40% 93.400%
Rangwe 60453 66.60% 81.600%
Ndhiwa 51301 74.60% 89.600%
Muhoroni 48009 59.50% 74.500%
Alego 66481 59.10% 74.100%
1594316 70.035%
Thats it case closed.
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Empty debes :D
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Good work Noway. This is more proof that Kibaki won the election marred by voter rigging in RV and nyanza
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Rv instead of yapping. Tell us the rigging figures carried out by ODM we compare.
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There is rigging figures from ODM. I predicted the turnout - for Luo Nyanza - way before election were held. Generally everywhere we saw 10-15 percent increase in vote turnout compared to 2002/2005. Mt kenya saw almost 25-30 percent increase in turnout from 2005/2002 to 2007.
Rv instead of yapping. Tell us the rigging figures carried out by ODM we compare.
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Why are we revisting this issue? Even my diehard Mt Kenya friends today admit Kibaki got the election stolen for him by Francis Muthaura and Martha Karua. No need of those figures for something that is so obvious.
There is rigging figures from ODM. I predicted the turnout - for Luo Nyanza - way before election were held. Generally everywhere we saw 10-15 percent increase in vote turnout compared to 2002/2005. Mt kenya saw almost 25-30 percent increase in turnout from 2005/2002 to 2007.
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Yes I also expected for them to argue that rigging was neccessary evil to stop Raila - Michuki at least was honest.
Martha led the rigging by appointing PNU commission - with only poor ECK Chair KIvuti helpless.
Main rigging was done by AP commandant Kinuthia Mbugua and NIS director of then.
Some rigging was being done in KICC by commissioners. While most of it were Returning Officers being to forced to delay the release and alter figures live live - with threats or bribery.
Why are we revisting this issue? Even my diehard Mt Kenya friends today admit Kibaki got the election stolen for him by Francis Muthaura and Martha Karua. No need of those figures for something that is so obvious.
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Why are we revisting this issue? Even my diehard Mt Kenya friends today admit Kibaki got the election stolen for him by Francis Muthaura and Martha Karua. No need of those figures for something that is so obvious.
There is rigging figures from ODM. I predicted the turnout - for Luo Nyanza - way before election were held. Generally everywhere we saw 10-15 percent increase in vote turnout compared to 2002/2005. Mt kenya saw almost 25-30 percent increase in turnout from 2005/2002 to 2007.
It is good to revisit so that the same is not repeated later. Rigging did occur by both sides but if you look at the numbers from registered and turnout its not that hard to see what the reality might have looked like. Rv is just being stubborn because he is very good with numbers and all he needs is come up with a spreadsheet that has his moas side by side with registered and turnout on election night. What is surprising is that Raila lost in almost all bukusu constituencies including in my home county of Transnzoia where he only beat Kibaki in Chera by about a thousand votes.He lost in all but i think one in Turkana and Kisii constituencies and in Nairobi he lost most of the Constituencies too but most of his supporters make us believe he won everywhere apart from Central and Eastern. Take some time and study the results by constituency and without bias you will see the odds are Raila lost rigging notwithstanding. Numbers dont lie.
https://aceproject.org/regions-en/countries-and-territories/KE/reports/Presidential_Results.pdf
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I shared my MOAS - I scored bull eyes except on Kibaki.
Here is one done ODM diehard then called MimiMzalendo using tribes.
It is good to revisit so that the same is not repeated later. Rigging did occur by both sides but if you look at the numbers from registered and turnout its not that hard to see what the reality might have looked like. Rv is just being stubborn because he is very good with numbers and all he needs is come up with a spreadsheet that has his moas side by side with registered and turnout on election night. What is surprising is that Raila lost in almost all bukusu constituencies including in my home county of Transnzoia where he only beat Kibaki in Chera by about a thousand votes.He lost in all but i think one in Turkana and Kisii constituencies and in Nairobi he lost most of the Constituencies too but most of his supporters make us believe he won everywhere apart from Central and Eastern. Take some time and study the results by constituency and without bias you will see the odds are Raila lost rigging notwithstanding. Numbers dont lie.
https://aceproject.org/regions-en/countries-and-territories/KE/reports/Presidential_Results.pdf
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Results Province wise as they like potraying . But if you go District/ Count wise and further Constituency wise you realise that Raila lost fair and square .They were just loud . Good Karua made them to shut up . Even Ruto came out later and agreed they lost 2007 elections .
(https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Edwin-Abuya-2/publication/227724185/figure/tbl2/AS:719707338461184@1548603009427/Kenya-provincial-presidential-results-2007.png)
Why are we revisting this issue? Even my diehard Mt Kenya friends today admit Kibaki got the election stolen for him by Francis Muthaura and Martha Karua. No need of those figures for something that is so obvious.
There is rigging figures from ODM. I predicted the turnout - for Luo Nyanza - way before election were held. Generally everywhere we saw 10-15 percent increase in vote turnout compared to 2002/2005. Mt kenya saw almost 25-30 percent increase in turnout from 2005/2002 to 2007.
It is good to revisit so that the same is not repeated later. Rigging did occur by both sides but if you look at the numbers from registered and turnout its not that hard to see what the reality might have looked like. Rv is just being stubborn because he is very good with numbers and all he needs is come up with a spreadsheet that has his moas side by side with registered and turnout on election night. What is surprising is that Raila lost in almost all bukusu constituencies including in my home county of Transnzoia where he only beat Kibaki in Chera by about a thousand votes.He lost in all but i think one in Turkana and Kisii constituencies and in Nairobi he lost most of the Constituencies too but most of his supporters make us believe he won everywhere apart from Central and Eastern. Take some time and study the results by constituency and without bias you will see the odds are Raila lost rigging notwithstanding. Numbers dont lie.
https://aceproject.org/regions-en/countries-and-territories/KE/reports/Presidential_Results.pdf
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When did Ruto say that.kibaki rigged.Crudely.If 2 percent of polling station randomly transmit the election is over.That scientific.pathetic NASA call that computer or server algorithm..that is the foundations of all science..get a random sample..you've covered 98 percent.You can go sleep knowing percentage will not change.That is why in science n mathematics random function is absolute importance.If you can truly randomly pick even 100 people you can represent the entire world.One crazy nowayaha can represent his ilk
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Upping this thread its a fact rigging happened in ODM strongholds ,People lie numbers dont