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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: vooke on April 25, 2018, 02:37:45 PM
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Minutes before turning his van onto a Toronto sidewalk on Monday, killing 10 people and injuring more than a dozen others, Alek Minassian wrote a post on Facebook, according to the Canadian authorities.
In it, he praised Elliot Rodger, who in 2014 shot and killed six people in Isla Vista, Calif. Mr. Minassian, 25, also wrote of an “incel rebellion,” referring to a term, shorthand for “involuntary celibates,” used online by a community of misogynists to describe themselves.
“The Incel Rebellion has already begun!” the posting read. “We will overthrow all the Chads and Stacys! All hail Supreme Gentleman Elliot Rodger!”
Here’s a brief guide to the incel community, including some of the coded language, such as “Chads” and “Stacys,” used by its members.
Who are incels?
Incels are misogynists who are deeply suspicious and disparaging of women, whom they blame for denying them their right to sexual intercourse.
Theirs is a relatively new take on a “male supremacist” worldview, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center.
The center, which closely tracks hate speech, reports that incels grew out of the pickup artist movement, which takes a manipulative approach to seduction, but is rejected by incels who find it too humanizing of women.
At their most extreme, incels have advocated rape and other forms of violence against women.
What does Elliot Rodger have to do with this?
That advocacy for violence is where Mr. Rodger, a self-described incel who left behind misogynistic ramblings, fits in.
Like Mr. Minassian, other incels have praised Mr. Rodger, calling him a “Supreme Gentleman,” “saint,” “hero” or “brother,” and praising his violent rampage.
About a day before his 2014 killing spree, Mr. Rodger uploaded a video titled “Elliot Rodger’s Retribution” in which he complained of his own rejection and vowed to punish all women for his loneliness.
“Girls gave their affection and sex and love to other men but never to me,” he said. “I’m 22 years old, and I’m still a virgin. I’ve never even kissed a girl.”
Some self-proclaimed incels have even reportedly begun praising Mr. Minassian in the same way the community revered Mr. Rodger.
Who are ‘Chads’ and ‘Stacys’?
Mr. Minassian’s vow to “overthrow all the Chads and Stacys” mirrors language used by Mr. Rodger and other incels. Men who are successful with women are known as “Chads,” while the women who reject incels are known as “Stacys.”
What is the ‘Incel Rebellion’?
Incels sometimes talk of an incel or “beta” uprising, a movement led by beta males, like themselves, to overthrow what they view as the oppressive feminism of society.
Where do incels congregate?
Incels have and still do post on Reddit, though the site, one of the world’s most popular online gathering places, barred its incel community in November, citing a policy against hateful and violent speech.
That community, a subreddit, had about 40,000 members, though it isn’t clear how many of those members subscribed to the philosophy and how many merely tracked it out of curiosity.
Incels have nonetheless found or returned to other online gathering places, including 4chan, an anonymous message board that has for years been home to a dark, and sometimes disturbing, corner of the web, often characterized by such misogyny.
In his Facebook post, Mr. Minassian reportedly described himself as “Private (Recruit) Minassian” and expressed a desire to “speak to Sgt 4chan.”
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They are having trouble getting laid. Couple that with ease of access to an AR-15 and you have a deadly combination.
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They are having trouble getting laid. Couple that with ease of access to an AR-15 and you have a deadly combination.
How did they figure that’s their right?
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They are having trouble getting laid. Couple that with ease of access to an AR-15 and you have a deadly combination.
How did they figure that’s their right?
Swali ngumu sana. I don't know what triggers them.
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Never heard of INCELS before. It appears there's a Nairobbery version though. Extremely shocking. Can't even bring myself to look for the video. https://nairobinews.nation.co.ke/news/shocking-crowd-cheers-as-street-boy-rapes-woman-in-cbd/
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LOL! I used to think this was some kind of urban legend but in the last year a lot of things I never took seriously before I now do.:D Like genuine white supremacy among many conservatives. I always thought it was an exaggeration. I still think it is. But I had no idea how deep/wide it is. It's not 100% like many on the left believe but it's certainly not as insignificant as I used to think. It has left me in a weird political landscape I'm gonna call limbo. No way in hell I'm gonna align myself with these secret KKK sympathizers no matter how loudly they sing praise and worship songs on Sundays.
INCEL...this phenomenon is a dangerous contributor to the alt-right crowd. Just like hopeless, jobless Kenyan youth or gullible youth in Muslim countries, they are ripe for the picking by dangerous ideologues. In my admitedly short experience in a Western country, the dating culture seems particularly shallow and cruel IMO, not exactly encouraging settling down but rather endless game playing by some people. What I think happens is that a few calous individuals are doing all the hooking up which leaves some people without women. It's funny to talk about but I think it's ultimately really, really bad for those societies long term. Yet I have no solutions to offer :D.
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LOL! I used to think this was some kind of urban legend but in the last year a lot of things I never took seriously before I now do.:D Like genuine white supremacy among many conservatives. I always thought it was an exaggeration. I still think it is. But I had no idea how deep/wide it is. It's not 100% like many on the left believe but it's certainly not as insignificant as I used to think. It has left me in a weird political landscape I'm gonna call limbo. No way in hell I'm gonna align myself with these secret KKK sympathizers no matter how loudly they sing praise and worship songs on Sundays.
INCEL...this phenomenon is a dangerous contributor to the alt-right crowd. Just like hopeless, jobless Kenyan youth or gullible youth in Muslim countries, they are ripe for the picking by dangerous ideologues. In my admitedly short experience in a Western country, the dating culture seems particularly shallow and cruel IMO, not exactly encouraging settling down but rather endless game playing by some people. What I think happens is that a few calous individuals are doing all the hooking up which leaves some people without women. It's funny to talk about but I think it's ultimately really, really bad for those societies long term. Yet I have no solutions to offer :D.
Solution is to round up and shoot all the morons who think getting laid is an inalienable right