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Raila Is Strugling Healthwise
« on: April 09, 2021, 04:22:44 PM »

And Robina says he will fight ot out with Ruto.
For the first time in mylifetime I empathize with Raila.


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Re: Raila Is Strugling Healthwise
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2021, 04:43:50 PM »
Just a year ago



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Re: Raila Is Strugling Healthwise
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2021, 06:30:53 PM »

And Robina says he will fight ot out with Ruto. WHICH FIGHT?
For the first time in mylifetime I empathize with Raila.

Pettiness & hatred is all you see when the significance that this picture captures is something else .... see here Oparanya with the same shirt- a day after it is confirmed there was a secret meeting in Maasai Mara:

And is it not instructive that the message was posted by Ruto loyalist Denis Itumbi?

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Re: Raila Is Strugling Healthwise
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2021, 06:59:46 PM »

Now empathy has become hatred. Let me give you a small history . Back in 1992 when Raila was back from exile in Norway. He came to Mombasa together with His fathers faction , by then it was clear that Odingas Ford and Matibas Ford were far apart. Even though all.posters were Old is Gold , when Raila stood to speak he was received with cheers simply because of his association with I.P.Ks Balala. We were inclined to believe these were our liberators. FORD Kenya went and won all Mombasa MP seats with exception of Changamwe which Kiliku under DP won due to the Kamba diaspora  and Mvita which Shariff Nasir rigged when all the other contestors went for the evening prayer.
Meanwhile in Nairobi Raila scopped the Kibera seat with alot of FORD Asili supporters voting for him simply because he was in detention with Matiba and Rubia. After his election Matiba was on record saying its fine Raila winning.
Where the rain started beating Raila was in 1999 when he decided to join hands with Moi , then 2002 decided to join Kibaki only for him to backstab Kibaki. In 2007 he lead a civil war only to be rewarded with a P.M post.

When I look at this photo , I go back to my childhood, We believed in Balala , i still have those childhood memories of this tough guy Raila who had been detained and never sulked .The Matibas, Shikukus , Orengos, Muites,Aneko, Masinde Muliro , Bawazir e.t.c
I see a frail guy, apart from Muite and Orengo , majority are gone. I realize that he just had a surgery and Covid all in one years time.
 Is he strong enough to roll out a cut throat campaign in 2002. A younger Kibaki couldnt manage in 2002 , it took Railaa energy to campaign for him.
Who will do it for Raila in 2022 ?  20 years later.
Raila should apologize for his sins in 1999, 2003 and 2007, time has come and he will be fine, mentor someone and please not Junet or Babu Owino. Even the 30 year daughter is better. Its time to pass the baton.


And Robina says he will fight ot out with Ruto.
For the first time in mylifetime I empathize with Raila.

Pettiness & hatred is all you see when the significance that this picture captures is something else .... see here Oparanya with the same shirt- a day after it is confirmed there was a secret meeting in Maasai Mara:

https://mobile.twitter.com/Obuchunju/status/1380512704788566016/photo/1

And is it not instructive that the message was posted by Ruto loyalist Denis Itumbi?

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Re: Raila Is Strugling Healthwise
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2021, 07:31:12 PM »
Boss, you're unapologetic gema, but pray, how did Raila betray Kibaki in 2003? Kibaki signed MOU and betrayed Raila - entire LDP wing including Kalonzo. I am sure in years to come you'll blame Ruto for Uhuru betrayal.

Yes I can understand 2007 Anti-Kikuyu campaign as Raila mistake but 2003 I won't blame him.

Raila has made strategic blunders but he recover quickly because he has enslaved Luos - who he uses as a leverage - other tribes including the slow coastarian have bailed out.

Raila first strategic mistake was to imagine Moi would back him in 2002 :) It akin to handshake now where he imagine Uhuru will back him.

His 2nd strategic plunder was to Sagana - where he got a lopsided deal

I believe if Raila had got Ruto DPM position in 2008 and repaid Ruto for 2007 handsomely - he would be president now.

He would have won 2013 like he won 2007...and Mlevi Uhuru would not be president.


Now empathy has become hatred. Let me give you a small history . Back in 1992 when Raila was back from exile in Norway. He came to Mombasa together with His fathers faction , by then it was clear that Odingas Ford and Matibas Ford were far apart. Even though all.posters were Old is Gold , when Raila stood to speak he was received with cheers simply because of his association with I.P.Ks Balala. We were inclined to believe these were our liberators. FORD Kenya went and won all Mombasa MP seats with exception of Changamwe which Kiliku under DP won due to the Kamba diaspora  and Mvita which Shariff Nasir rigged when all the other contestors went for the evening prayer.
Meanwhile in Nairobi Raila scopped the Kibera seat with alot of FORD Asili supporters voting for him simply because he was in detention with Matiba and Rubia. After his election Matiba was on record saying its fine Raila winning.
Where the rain started beating Raila was in 1999 when he decided to join hands with Moi , then 2002 decided to join Kibaki only for him to backstab Kibaki. In 2007 he lead a civil war only to be rewarded with a P.M post.

When I look at this photo , I go back to my childhood, We believed in Balala , i still have those childhood memories of this tough guy Raila who had been detained and never sulked .The Matibas, Shikukus , Orengos, Muites,Aneko, Masinde Muliro , Bawazir e.t.c
I see a frail guy, apart from Muite and Orengo , majority are gone. I realize that he just had a surgery and Covid all in one years time.
 Is he strong enough to roll out a cut throat campaign in 2002. A younger Kibaki couldnt manage in 2002 , it took Railaa energy to campaign for him.
Who will do it for Raila in 2022 ?  20 years later.
Raila should apologize for his sins in 1999, 2003 and 2007, time has come and he will be fine, mentor someone and please not Junet or Babu Owino. Even the 30 year daughter is better. Its time to pass the baton.


And Robina says he will fight ot out with Ruto.
For the first time in mylifetime I empathize with Raila.

Pettiness & hatred is all you see when the significance that this picture captures is something else .... see here Oparanya with the same shirt- a day after it is confirmed there was a secret meeting in Maasai Mara:

https://mobile.twitter.com/Obuchunju/status/1380512704788566016/photo/1

And is it not instructive that the message was posted by Ruto loyalist Denis Itumbi?

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Re: Raila Is Strugling Healthwise
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2021, 08:06:42 PM »

Coming to 2002 , I was Uhuru damu. I always looked at Kibaki as a traitor for Matibas Loss in 1992,  We were the ones warning people Raila was supporting Kibaki so that he can wrestle power from him once they get power and it came to pass.

As for Ruto I have been supporting him since 1997, only time we parted was in 2007 .Even then I knew he was not for Raila only circumstances forced him. It was evident his support was for Kalonzo. FYI I know how they managed to edge out Kalonzo, I know how The Nyundo at Khadija grounds was stage managed , I know most of the guys who were yelling hammer and brandishing the Nyundo , Kalonzo became emotional and decided to play hardball. Deep state managed to divide ODM K. Like Moi ls did with FORD in 1992.

Ruto has been betrayed by Uhuru this is a fact. Uhur decided to enrich his family and friends and he plans to cling into power remotely to protect the wealth.
Now 2003 Raila is different , he wanted to usurp Kibaki as the president.
He had his own list of Ministers a week into power, a month later he was fighting Kibaki both in parliament and in the public scene through hsi so called field survey. At the time Kibaki was so sick on wheelchair. Raila ran circles on Kibaki, he fought the Ameru who have never forgiven him as we speak. In fighting Kibaki he galvanized Mt Kenya , he created a force what he now calls a Monster known as Mt Kenya. Come 2007 he lead 41 vs 1 campaign which lead to Post Election Violence.

About Ruto becoming DPM and foregoing his ambition of inheriting Rift Valley, you seem not to know Ruto. Ruto is very calculative , he pla ned to j herit Moi as far as from 1999. He planned to be Kenyas president as far as from 2007. The Orengos know this hence one of the reason Raila and his clique tried to tame him. Sometimes its good to calm down study Ruto, when you were here singing how Ruto should lead the anti BBI NO campaign we told you his strategy, when you were here shouting hoarse how Ruto can make it with Rift Valley alone , we told you he should avoid a direct confrotation with Uhuru because of Kiambu. You can see which path he has taken.

And still I stand with my advice , Raila should bail out he wont manage to fight it out with Ruto in 2022 and while doing so apologize to Mt Kenya cfor what he did from 2003 to 2013. Moi apologized and later he was celebrated in Mt Kenya. Raila apologized to Rift Valley for forsaking them after becoming P.M. whats wrong with him apologizing to Mt Kenya ?

Boss, you're unapologetic gema, but pray, how did Raila betray Kibaki in 2003? Kibaki signed MOU and betrayed Raila - entire LDP wing including Kalonzo. I am sure in years to come you'll blame Ruto for Uhuru betrayal.

Yes I can understand 2007 Anti-Kikuyu campaign as Raila mistake but 2003 I won't blame him.

Raila has made strategic blunders but he recover quickly because he has enslaved Luos - who he uses as a leverage - other tribes including the slow coastarian have bailed out.

Raila first strategic mistake was to imagine Moi would back him in 2002 :) It akin to handshake now where he imagine Uhuru will back him.

His 2nd strategic plunder was to Sagana - where he got a lopsided deal

I believe if Raila had got Ruto DPM position in 2008 and repaid Ruto for 2007 handsomely - he would be president now.

He would have won 2013 like he won 2007...and Mlevi Uhuru would not be president.


Now empathy has become hatred. Let me give you a small history . Back in 1992 when Raila was back from exile in Norway. He came to Mombasa together with His fathers faction , by then it was clear that Odingas Ford and Matibas Ford were far apart. Even though all.posters were Old is Gold , when Raila stood to speak he was received with cheers simply because of his association with I.P.Ks Balala. We were inclined to believe these were our liberators. FORD Kenya went and won all Mombasa MP seats with exception of Changamwe which Kiliku under DP won due to the Kamba diaspora  and Mvita which Shariff Nasir rigged when all the other contestors went for the evening prayer.
Meanwhile in Nairobi Raila scopped the Kibera seat with alot of FORD Asili supporters voting for him simply because he was in detention with Matiba and Rubia. After his election Matiba was on record saying its fine Raila winning.
Where the rain started beating Raila was in 1999 when he decided to join hands with Moi , then 2002 decided to join Kibaki only for him to backstab Kibaki. In 2007 he lead a civil war only to be rewarded with a P.M post.

When I look at this photo , I go back to my childhood, We believed in Balala , i still have those childhood memories of this tough guy Raila who had been detained and never sulked .The Matibas, Shikukus , Orengos, Muites,Aneko, Masinde Muliro , Bawazir e.t.c
I see a frail guy, apart from Muite and Orengo , majority are gone. I realize that he just had a surgery and Covid all in one years time.
 Is he strong enough to roll out a cut throat campaign in 2002. A younger Kibaki couldnt manage in 2002 , it took Railaa energy to campaign for him.
Who will do it for Raila in 2022 ?  20 years later.
Raila should apologize for his sins in 1999, 2003 and 2007, time has come and he will be fine, mentor someone and please not Junet or Babu Owino. Even the 30 year daughter is better. Its time to pass the baton.


And Robina says he will fight ot out with Ruto.
For the first time in mylifetime I empathize with Raila.

Pettiness & hatred is all you see when the significance that this picture captures is something else .... see here Oparanya with the same shirt- a day after it is confirmed there was a secret meeting in Maasai Mara:

https://mobile.twitter.com/Obuchunju/status/1380512704788566016/photo/1

And is it not instructive that the message was posted by Ruto loyalist Denis Itumbi?

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Re: Raila Is Strugling Healthwise
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2021, 10:34:09 PM »
I don't follow... is this about Raila's physiological or political health?
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Re: Raila Is Strugling Healthwise
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2021, 10:48:56 PM »
You really have made crazy political decision. Matiba was mentally unfit to be president and god really saved kenyan.  Jaramogi was old and frail - but Matiba brain stroke had reduced him to a vegetable. Anyway I grew up supporting kibaki coz my father was kibaki man.

1999 - Ruto was first time MP - KANU rebel. I didn't really take much notice of him until 2001 - when he was ass minister and had overtaken JJ kamotho as chief KANU propagandist. He was for most part a lackey of Gideon and Uhuru. Gideon had discovered with Philip that Biwott and Kulei were making money behind Moi's back - and registering the wealth under their names. They pushed Biwwot out with his Saitoti gang. Gideon might not be good in retail politics - but in power player and business - he is lethal.

As for Raila - there is no doubt that after magic tragic blunder - he helped Kibaki win in 2002 - and Kibaki had MOU with LDP that he should have honoured. Kibaki biggest unforgivable plunder was to betray national narc revolution by becoming GEMA president. It was huge betrayal that would culminate in near civil war of 2007.

2007 - Yes Ruto was for Kalonzo - it was obvious Raila win would not be rig proof - but definitely during NARA - Raila made huge blunders. Ruto is ambitious but reasonable. All he wanted was to grow. Being minister was nothing - Moi had made him a minister. I believe if Raila had manage to give him space to grow - politically and economically - he would have supported Raila in 2013 - and Raila would have won. Uhuru would not even stand - maybe Kalonzo. Big blunder - Uhuru became the beneficiary of Raila blunder - and Ruto has waited for 10yrs - so he reasonably ambitious.

As we approach 2022 - this one looking like 3 horse - but GEMA will decide.

Coming to 2002 , I was Uhuru damu. I always looked at Kibaki as a traitor for Matibas Loss in 1992,  We were the ones warning people Raila was supporting Kibaki so that he can wrestle power from him once they get power and it came to pass.

As for Ruto I have been supporting him since 1997, only time we parted was in 2007 .Even then I knew he was not for Raila only circumstances forced him. It was evident his support was for Kalonzo. FYI I know how they managed to edge out Kalonzo, I know how The Nyundo at Khadija grounds was stage managed , I know most of the guys who were yelling hammer and brandishing the Nyundo , Kalonzo became emotional and decided to play hardball. Deep state managed to divide ODM K. Like Moi ls did with FORD in 1992.

Ruto has been betrayed by Uhuru this is a fact. Uhur decided to enrich his family and friends and he plans to cling into power remotely to protect the wealth.
Now 2003 Raila is different , he wanted to usurp Kibaki as the president.
He had his own list of Ministers a week into power, a month later he was fighting Kibaki both in parliament and in the public scene through hsi so called field survey. At the time Kibaki was so sick on wheelchair. Raila ran circles on Kibaki, he fought the Ameru who have never forgiven him as we speak. In fighting Kibaki he galvanized Mt Kenya , he created a force what he now calls a Monster known as Mt Kenya. Come 2007 he lead 41 vs 1 campaign which lead to Post Election Violence.

About Ruto becoming DPM and foregoing his ambition of inheriting Rift Valley, you seem not to know Ruto. Ruto is very calculative , he pla ned to j herit Moi as far as from 1999. He planned to be Kenyas president as far as from 2007. The Orengos know this hence one of the reason Raila and his clique tried to tame him. Sometimes its good to calm down study Ruto, when you were here singing how Ruto should lead the anti BBI NO campaign we told you his strategy, when you were here shouting hoarse how Ruto can make it with Rift Valley alone , we told you he should avoid a direct confrotation with Uhuru because of Kiambu. You can see which path he has taken.

And still I stand with my advice , Raila should bail out he wont manage to fight it out with Ruto in 2022 and while doing so apologize to Mt Kenya cfor what he did from 2003 to 2013. Moi apologized and later he was celebrated in Mt Kenya. Raila apologized to Rift Valley for forsaking them after becoming P.M. whats wrong with him apologizing to Mt Kenya ?

Boss, you're unapologetic gema, but pray, how did Raila betray Kibaki in 2003? Kibaki signed MOU and betrayed Raila - entire LDP wing including Kalonzo. I am sure in years to come you'll blame Ruto for Uhuru betrayal.

Yes I can understand 2007 Anti-Kikuyu campaign as Raila mistake but 2003 I won't blame him.

Raila has made strategic blunders but he recover quickly because he has enslaved Luos - who he uses as a leverage - other tribes including the slow coastarian have bailed out.

Raila first strategic mistake was to imagine Moi would back him in 2002 :) It akin to handshake now where he imagine Uhuru will back him.

His 2nd strategic plunder was to Sagana - where he got a lopsided deal

I believe if Raila had got Ruto DPM position in 2008 and repaid Ruto for 2007 handsomely - he would be president now.

He would have won 2013 like he won 2007...and Mlevi Uhuru would not be president.


Now empathy has become hatred. Let me give you a small history . Back in 1992 when Raila was back from exile in Norway. He came to Mombasa together with His fathers faction , by then it was clear that Odingas Ford and Matibas Ford were far apart. Even though all.posters were Old is Gold , when Raila stood to speak he was received with cheers simply because of his association with I.P.Ks Balala. We were inclined to believe these were our liberators. FORD Kenya went and won all Mombasa MP seats with exception of Changamwe which Kiliku under DP won due to the Kamba diaspora  and Mvita which Shariff Nasir rigged when all the other contestors went for the evening prayer.
Meanwhile in Nairobi Raila scopped the Kibera seat with alot of FORD Asili supporters voting for him simply because he was in detention with Matiba and Rubia. After his election Matiba was on record saying its fine Raila winning.
Where the rain started beating Raila was in 1999 when he decided to join hands with Moi , then 2002 decided to join Kibaki only for him to backstab Kibaki. In 2007 he lead a civil war only to be rewarded with a P.M post.

When I look at this photo , I go back to my childhood, We believed in Balala , i still have those childhood memories of this tough guy Raila who had been detained and never sulked .The Matibas, Shikukus , Orengos, Muites,Aneko, Masinde Muliro , Bawazir e.t.c
I see a frail guy, apart from Muite and Orengo , majority are gone. I realize that he just had a surgery and Covid all in one years time.
 Is he strong enough to roll out a cut throat campaign in 2002. A younger Kibaki couldnt manage in 2002 , it took Railaa energy to campaign for him.
Who will do it for Raila in 2022 ?  20 years later.
Raila should apologize for his sins in 1999, 2003 and 2007, time has come and he will be fine, mentor someone and please not Junet or Babu Owino. Even the 30 year daughter is better. Its time to pass the baton.


And Robina says he will fight ot out with Ruto.
For the first time in mylifetime I empathize with Raila.

Pettiness & hatred is all you see when the significance that this picture captures is something else .... see here Oparanya with the same shirt- a day after it is confirmed there was a secret meeting in Maasai Mara:

https://mobile.twitter.com/Obuchunju/status/1380512704788566016/photo/1

And is it not instructive that the message was posted by Ruto loyalist Denis Itumbi?

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Re: Raila Is Strugling Healthwise
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2021, 10:53:04 PM »
 :o i guess your clay idol has really "grown" under Uhuru

You really have made crazy political decision. Matiba was mentally unfit to be president and god really saved kenyan.  Jaramogi was old and frail - but Matiba brain stroke had reduced him to a vegetable. Anyway I grew up supporting kibaki coz my father was kibaki man.

1999 - Ruto was first time MP - KANU rebel. I didn't really take much notice of him until 2001 - when he was ass minister and had overtaken JJ kamotho as chief KANU propagandist. He was for most part a lackey of Gideon and Uhuru. Gideon had discovered with Philip that Biwott and Kulei were making money behind Moi's back - and registering the wealth under their names. They pushed Biwwot out with his Saitoti gang. Gideon might not be good in retail politics - but in power player and business - he is lethal.

As for Raila - there is no doubt that after magic tragic blunder - he helped Kibaki win in 2002 - and Kibaki had MOU with LDP that he should have honoured. Kibaki biggest unforgivable plunder was to betray national narc revolution by becoming GEMA president. It was huge betrayal that would culminate in near civil war of 2007.

2007 - Yes Ruto was for Kalonzo - it was obvious Raila win would not be rig proof - but definitely during NARA - Raila made huge blunders. Ruto is ambitious but reasonable. All he wanted was to grow. Being minister was nothing - Moi had made him a minister. I believe if Raila had manage to give him space to grow - politically and economically - he would have supported Raila in 2013 - and Raila would have won. Uhuru would not even stand - maybe Kalonzo. Big blunder - Uhuru became the beneficiary of Raila blunder - and Ruto has waited for 10yrs - so he reasonably ambitious.

As we approach 2022 - this one looking like 3 horse - but GEMA will decide.
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Re: Raila Is Strugling Healthwise
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2021, 10:54:47 PM »
Kenya politician or developing world politician are in it to grow economically.  They don't steal - they die or kill you. Ruto is very corrupt. Uhuru is very corrupt. Raila is very corrupt.

We need to be honest as political pundits. ONLY A MORON WILL COME AND SAY RAILA IS CLEAN. Clean billionaire without any known innovation or invention - whose wealth grow with his tenure in gov.

To manage another ambitious politician - the easiest is to share power - allow them to steal and all that pertains to political power. You hog all power - they fight you.

As Citizen - knowing all of them are corrupt - you cannot use that as basis to judge them - you use development or maendeleo instead - and that is what kenyans do. What have you done for us. Everyone knows they have taken care of themselves first.

Besides until they get caught and convicted - their corruption is rumor's. FoCUS on what they have done - delivered - like say tarmacked road x or brought piped water or electricity.

:o i guess your clay idol has really "grown" under Uhuru
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Re: Raila Is Strugling Healthwise
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2021, 10:37:34 AM »
Raila is sick. The good years are behind him. But gatheca is very immoral taking advantage of baba knowing that he will not make it to pork.