Wow some men are animals

[KenyanPlato]

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Murder suspect Robert Kipkorir Tanui who on 4th October 2020 set ablaze his 34-year-old wife Ms. Emmy Chepkoech Mitei following a domestic confrontation was last evening arrested by Kericho-based @DCI_Kenya detectives. pic.twitter.com/NQjJJK8wC4

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Culture aside, there are also undiagnosed mental problems.  Not to blame the victim, but by the time a spouse is killing you, you probably knew they could do that.

[KenyanPlato]

But they crazies never relent. My two aunts had misfortune of marrying such trash. One was killed in a mass murder. The guy was an ex military combatant. Family tried to save my aunt 4 times but she kept on going back
 Last time my dad told her he will be burying her soon. On the day of the murder the guy killed his bar maid a concubine of his, 3 customers. Locked the bar went back home. Killed my aunt and waited all day and anyone who came looking for my aunt he killed them. The last killing was a young girl. He then fled and was killed by detectives in Embu. He run from lanet to embu.

[RV Pundit]

It happens a lot. My own grandfather murdered my grandmother from my mother side one night. Afterwards, went and woke up my uncle who was in high school (my mother had just been married) and told him he had killed the enemy. I never saw him. He was a huge man so I was told and use to grab goats and kill them with his bare hands. So he simply squeezed my grandmother with his bare hand and killed her. My uncle went and informed villages. Nobody could dare come...so eventually lot more people from like sublocation...came and subdued him.

He was arrested and taken to Nakuru high court where murder suspect were taken. The man I think died in remand - I heard from lack of food - I heard he ate soap or something - he had big apettite for food.My uncles went and buried him at Nakuru cemetry. All these happened before I was born. The retired ass chief who was my friend - old mzee - told me a week before he had gone nuts kinda of - and went to the Ass Chief to report that his wife was sleeping with 3 neighbours -  an he had told him he' will come resolve the issues - and send a family friend - to talk to him. 3 days later he had killed the wife.

I don't think i was born then. My mother will never say a word about this - it a no go topic. So all these I heard from other people.

It mostly mental issues. My grandfather was one of the most progressive folks - had built a stone house during those days - and was feared far and wide for his bravery and body size ( all my uncle and aunties inherited his 6 feet plus huge body ). He had single-handly killed a cheetah and his nickname was Francis the Crusher. Many say he was cursed for killing people goats - he snapped their neck- and ate them. He was the forest guard...hired to beat up anybody who went hunting or fishing or collecting wood from Mau forest.

[Njuri Ncheke]

Lots of mental issues go undetected and Kenya has a very weak mental health program. Many people you see on the streets can easily be cured if government was serious. But a government that steals corona aid money is a weak and meek government. Mental health is not given a priority sad.

[KenyanPlato]

There is mental illness. However what makes this matter worse is the patriarchal power men have over women. We need to serious empower women. My aunt killer was a medic at the army. He had the best mental health access but he was unchecked when it came to domestic violence. IF MY aunt was empowered she would have left the bugger. Her killer was brutal he even taught my meek cousin a 6 feet tall giant to be ruthless. My cousin was brought away from this man but he finally got him in his young adult life and taught him to be a brute like him.

[Arcadian_Dreamer]

There is mental illness. However what makes this matter worse is the patriarchal power men have over women. We need to serious empower women. My aunt killer was a medic at the army. He had the best mental health access but he was unchecked when it came to domestic violence. IF MY aunt was empowered she would have left the bugger. Her killer was brutal he even taught my meek cousin a 6 feet tall giant to be ruthless. My cousin was brought away from this man but he finally got him in his young adult life and taught him to be a brute like him.

Absolutely. I really hate men sometimes even though I'm a man. Gender based violence is real. Mental health is an excuse, some men are egotistical bastards with hair triggers for violence. So many of my female relatives have been assaulted and brutalized by their male kinsmen. I have never laid a finger on a woman or a child in my life. Cowards brutalize those they can.

[KenyanPlato]

The mental health excuse is the one used by whites when they committ hate crimes. You the more intolerant a community is the more violence there is against women. Men are too weak to deal with their own problems without taking it out on women or kids. I have noted in 🇺🇸  kales and kisiis have very explosive anger that they manage by beating their women. The things you hear or see are just very painful. Let me tell you I will walk away and be alone than put myself in a situation like this.

There is no excuse for premeditated murders like this. Absolutely no excuse.

My,best friend dad was a contradiction of some sort. Out in public he was generous man. But at his house he was an abusive piece of shit. He used to lock the gate and beat the wife till the kids would be forced to scale the wall to let the mum out or the homestead. When his wife died. He married another woman and same shit happened. He almost killed that woman. She was lucky that she was able to leave and never come back. Anyway this abuse is something that continues because the society has no mechanism to hold to account these abusers..what this abuse did to my friend is just sorry. He almost lost his mind and is still struggling to date. We need to do better

Actually the constitution should amended to give women 50 percent of seats and guarantee that they will produce president or deputy

[RV Pundit]

It depends on the woman too. I have had girlfriend I never could lay my hand on them. I can describe most Kalenjin women as just sweet and docile  -never laid my hand on any kalenjin girlfriend- but GEMA women are totally different ballgame - aggresive, argumentative and can even challenge your manhood -and ego -  nearly every Kalenjin woman knows never to challenge a man . Telling a man kihii for example is inviting war. I have had those that forced me almost to beat them blue. Some women are full of dramas. My wife and I use to argue nearly daily during our first years of marriage -sometimes even get physical- now after nearly clocking 20yrs together - that fight is gone. I saw the same with my parents. When we were young - 80s -  they would sometimes argue - and my father would even get physical - a slap - and my mother who go to her home - and come back a few days later. That was 80s. come 90s...they completely stopped and for like 30yrs..I don't even remember them arguing..it's like they re-fell in love completely. It's funny. I honestly don't know what was wrong then -  the most my father intimiate to me - when he was trying to push me to get more kids - was that he had issues with my mother because she had refuse to get more children .

What I have seen again if people fight a lot when there is economic pressure..not enough money.

Absolutely. I really hate men sometimes even though I'm a man. Gender based violence is real. Mental health is an excuse, some men are egotistical bastards with hair triggers for violence. So many of my female relatives have been assaulted and brutalized by their male kinsmen. I have never laid a finger on a woman or a child in my life. Cowards brutalize those they can.

[KenyanPlato]

At certain age couples give up. There is no need to get physical just go separate ways. I have been provoked to a point to wanting to smash the person face so bad but mostly I just get them out of my way or of their way. It not an end of life. Someone people are just too much and you may never be compatible. Kalenjin women need to get a fight in them or them. Embu women are really very nice and calm. Most Embu people are calm. I think the environment favors them to be that way. Gema women usually face  a lot of issues that make them very aggressive or stubborn.

[RV Pundit]

Yes, unfortunately, some of us don't have those guts. I have brother who has dumped seven women - with kids. I can never do that. I see him and I wonder if he has normal heart. Most people who fight - are in love - and want to make it work. It's worth the fight according to them.

But likes of Kenya plato with baby mamas in every US state is different kettle fish for some of us. It hard for me to fall in love - I can date women and do all the shiet - but I only love my wife and my kids dearly.

My brother who has dumped those women never lays a hand - not even a slap. He just zooms out, find another women, stop sleeping with the current one even if they share a bed and they all leave. Not a single drama. He has this two weeks thing that he does -  when he is in the house - chatting other women, goes to sleep outsides, doesn't touch the woman and after exactly 2 weeks - he tell me - all leave - never to comeback.

At certain age couples give up. There is no need to get physical just go separate ways. I have been provoked to a point to wanting to smash the person face so bad but mostly I just get them out of my way or of their way. It not an end of life. Someone people are just too much and you may never be compatible. Kalenjin women need to get a fight in them or them. Embu women are really very nice and calm. Most Embu people are calm. I think the environment favors them to be that way. Gema women usually face  a lot of issues that make them very aggressive or stubborn.

[Arcadian_Dreamer]

It depends on the woman too. I have had girlfriend I never could lay my hand on them. I can describe most Kalenjin women as just sweet and docile  -never laid my hand on any kalenjin girlfriend- but GEMA women are totally different ballgame - aggressive, argumentative and can even challenge your manhood -and ego -  nearly every Kalenjin woman knows never to challenge a man . Telling a man kihii for example is inviting war. I have had those that forced me almost to beat them blue. Some women are full of dramas. My wife and I use to argue nearly daily during our first years of marriage -sometimes even get physical- now after nearly clocking 20yrs together - that fight is gone. I saw the same with my parents. When we were young - 80s -  they would sometimes argue - and my father would even get physical - a slap - and my mother who go to her home - and come back a few days later. That was 80s. come 90s...they completely stopped and for like 30yrs..I don't even remember them arguing..it's like they re-fell in love completely. It's funny. I honestly don't know what was wrong then -  the most my father intimiate to me - when he was trying to push me to get more kids - was that he had issues with my mother because she had refuse to get more children .

What I have seen again if people fight a lot when there is economic pressure..not enough money.

Sorry to say it but your mom was trapped in an abusive relationship and she gave up, there was no love rekindled, it happens to some women who get abused, the fight just dissipates in them when they realize no one, not even their own family will come to their rescue. Those poor elephants being ridden by tourists and used to ferry logs in temples in Asia are severely beaten and chained for prolonged time till they become docile. Same can happen with some children and women. It leads to suicides and drug abuse.

I know every time my dad had financial issues he would be extremely harsh on us, harangue and verbally abuse my mother for made up reasons. He completely lost my trust and there is no bond between us just filial duties on my part.

[KenyanPlato]

Pundit needs to really look at this issue as pure abuse and no other way. If I tell you how many people I know have been so abused that one of them developed traumatic brain injury at age of 50. She was my teacher and she used to come to class with a black eye. One time she got hit with a torch on the eye socket that it was so swollen for almost a month and shut down. This abuse continued till when she got to 50 she developed dementia from all the constant hits to the head. She is now in a nursing home here in states. Her daughter had to take her as no one was taking good care of her in kenya. She is now wheel chair bound and on a feeding tube after 3 brain surgeries to relieve swelling in her brain. There so many cases. The oppression of women in kenya is what has created a nation so dysfunctional
 

Widows in kenya have to rely on mercy of their inlaws. I can tell you my social media inbox is full of these desperate widows looking of handouts to feed their kids because as soon as their husband die they lose all the support and property.

Our society is seriously sick. Pay attention to how kenya men talk about women especially on the gender equality bill. They are very chauvinistic and dismissive. I have seen a smart kid whose mother was abused a his family was raised by their paternal grandparents talk all type shit about women. You would think the idiot would be sympathetic to the plight of women

[Njuri Ncheke]

Women can drive men crazy but as a man you just ignore these as they are bait for you to hit them. Personally I wouldn't lay a finger on a woman. I only slapped a woman once in my life after she spewed out the most vile nonesense on me and I told her to leave but she didn't and sat there just irritating me. After that I said I will Never ever do it and actually now I handle women too well very well I would say. My wife for instance out of the blue will come up with a stupid comment just to annoy me. Especially when I come home from drinking so I just go and sleep it off other times I will just tell her she is speaking nonsense but will never waste even a minute arguing with her. I learnt the minute you raise your voice the kids immediately turn to attention and that affects them, so I stopped that long time ago and I will let her talk all she wants. Basically I can be crude and ruthless but will never exercise this. Man women can spew nonesense.
But there is no specific women eti GEMA are more argumentative than Kalenjin it depends on the women, but generally maybe GEMA are more difficult, like Merus though submissive are difficult headed to some extent.
Generally though women i realized just want a good fxck  and thats could be genesis for them troubling and irritating you.

[Nefertiti]

Men are unevolved morons.

It depends on the woman too. I have had girlfriend I never could lay my hand on them. I can describe most Kalenjin women as just sweet and docile  -never laid my hand on any kalenjin girlfriend- but GEMA women are totally different ballgame - aggresive, argumentative and can even challenge your manhood -and ego -  nearly every Kalenjin woman knows never to challenge a man . Telling a man kihii for example is inviting war. I have had those that forced me almost to beat them blue. Some women are full of dramas. My wife and I use to argue nearly daily during our first years of marriage -sometimes even get physical- now after nearly clocking 20yrs together - that fight is gone. I saw the same with my parents. When we were young - 80s -  they would sometimes argue - and my father would even get physical - a slap - and my mother who go to her home - and come back a few days later. That was 80s. come 90s...they completely stopped and for like 30yrs..I don't even remember them arguing..it's like they re-fell in love completely. It's funny. I honestly don't know what was wrong then -  the most my father intimiate to me - when he was trying to push me to get more kids - was that he had issues with my mother because she had refuse to get more children .

What I have seen again if people fight a lot when there is economic pressure..not enough money.

Absolutely. I really hate men sometimes even though I'm a man. Gender based violence is real. Mental health is an excuse, some men are egotistical bastards with hair triggers for violence. So many of my female relatives have been assaulted and brutalized by their male kinsmen. I have never laid a finger on a woman or a child in my life. Cowards brutalize those they can.

[gout]

The crazy thing with humans is that while other animals just use their body parts in killing - mainly for food- humans have access to crude and sophisticated tools for killing each other for all sort of nonsensical reasons.

There is need for mass campaigns to undo the harmful ownership mentality in relationship propagated by church and capitalism. how do you own another human being??

Following the murder of 23 year old Mercy Njeri Mbatia on 13th October, 2020 by her husband, DCI Detectives based at Njoro Sub-County have arrested 34 yr old John Mwangi Githaiga at Mathangauta area.
Mwangi who slit his victim’s throat with a sharp object and later burnt her head, hands and legs to the knee area has been on the run and will be charged accordingly.

[veritas]

Thanks all for sharing and my deepest condolences.

Domestic violence fuelled murders consist of 90% of murder cases. By the spouse 99% and only 1% by strangers.

Most driven by substance abuse, alcohol, mental disorders so in most cases the perpetrator lacks the requisite mens rea to be found guilty of murder. Most cases its murder by a plea bargain with the prosecution for a reduced sentence ie. 12 years instead of going to trial. It's very hard to prove murder. The reality is that most serve about 10 years for murdering their spouse.

What is the price of crime? What is the purpose of punishment? Incarceration today is akin to therapy without freedom.

It's virtually impossible to prove rape. It makes me angry.

[Georgesoros]

Thanks all for sharing and my deepest condolences.

Domestic violence fuelled murders consist of 90% of murder cases. By the spouse 99% and only 1% by strangers.

Most driven by substance abuse, alcohol, mental disorders so in most cases the perpetrator lacks the requisite mens rea to be found guilty of murder. Most cases its murder by a plea bargain with the prosecution for a reduced sentence ie. 12 years instead of going to trial. It's very hard to prove murder. The reality is that most serve about 10 years for murdering their spouse.

What is the price of crime? What is the purpose of punishment? Incarceration today is akin to therapy without freedom.

It's virtually impossible to prove rape. It makes me angry.

SAD. Also, stress plays a significant role in most abuses. During these pandemic times, trigger temps are lowered, and Any little provocation will activate the mental defense systems causing a lash out or physical violence. These days if someone cuts me off, I don't give them a finger.

[RV Pundit]

Yes stress - from job or loss of that job - is probably no 1 cause of domestic strife. Just like most conflict are resources fight - a food fight. For the dynasities - it's drugs. The nutcases are 2%.

[veritas]

I'd say so. Also because of Covid, these are dangerous times. I've been subject to some racial slurs. Had to report to police on one occasion. Even just going to the park, racist judgy eyes. This pandemic hasn't been good for multiculturalism. Xenophobia on the rise. I haven't felt this level of animosity around before.

When people are pushed to the corner their true colours come out. No issue with migrants, this pandemic seems to bring the best out of migrant cultures but whites, wow, nazism/colonialism dna activated.

Take precaution all.