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What was coup about?
« on: October 02, 2020, 01:54:54 AM »
Is uhuru about to suffer the out sign that out of power coup? I am told he is livid and has vowed to punch heavy. Prepare for interesting finale of season 2

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Re: What was coup about?
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2020, 06:31:21 AM »
Coup? Ruto has been going to pangani recently. I think Ruto want a finale on Jubilee party. Let Uhuru show his hand - not hide behind hapless Tuju. Let him tell Ruto that Jubilee is gone - and Ruto can form Hustler Nation.

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Re: What was coup about?
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2020, 12:20:49 PM »
Which evidence does he need a rotting corpse. He is like an abused spouse suffering serious Stockholm syndrome

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Re: What was coup about?
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2020, 01:44:21 PM »
In the fight for custody (jubilee children) - the children will choose the better parent here - Ruto. Ruto has a PHD in politics and science. He is poking Uhuru eyes. He wants Uhuru to show his hand. It's about time to smoke him out.

Uhuru has never really hit Ruto directly - just shadow boxing. Using Tuju and Murathe.  Let see if Tuju can block the Deputy Leader from going to his office.

Which evidence does he need a rotting corpse. He is like an abused spouse suffering serious Stockholm syndrome

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Re: What was coup about?
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2020, 01:46:43 PM »
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Uhuru is livid. He wants your boy tail and head

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Re: What was coup about?
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2020, 01:57:01 PM »
Pundit is like a fox News cult member

Here is more evidence for you dummy
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Re: What was coup about?
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2020, 02:14:13 PM »
Jubilee NEC has recommended Ruto's removal from office
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Re: What was coup about?
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2020, 03:04:18 PM »
That exactly is what Ruto needs.Its now clear why he had to form hustler nation

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Re: What was coup about?
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2020, 03:06:13 PM »
Yet,pundito and kalenjins still think Mobutu has a future in jubilee.Jubilee is reserved for Uhuru.I thought mobutu was smart enough to smell the coffee long time ago.

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Re: What was coup about?
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2020, 03:47:25 PM »
Jubilee as brand is dead as dodo. We got brand new hustler nation. Meanwhile ODM is stale and old as Raila.
There are 400 parties.
Old parties like KANU carry bad name - Ruto told Uhuru to form TNA for that reason.
ODM if you want Mt kenya - should do a renaming - it's toxic there.

Ruto is instigating this fight so the divorce can happen now.

Otherwise Ruto cannot just ran away from Jubilee. He has to be chased.

And Uhuru is doing exactly that.

ODM did the same - with Ruto -

Yet,pundito and kalenjins still think Mobutu has a future in jubilee.Jubilee is reserved for Uhuru.I thought mobutu was smart enough to smell the coffee long time ago.

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Re: What was coup about?
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2020, 05:02:36 PM »
Uhuru has removed rutos hand
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Re: What was coup about?
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2020, 09:39:50 AM »
Is uhuru about to suffer the out sign that out of power coup? I am told he is livid and has vowed to punch heavy. Prepare for interesting finale of season 2

Dream on , Uhuru would never draw blood because of a party  , he let KANU die, He Let KANU go , He killed TNA ,same way he wants to kill Jubilee . Its actually better for Ruto , No political party has won an election twice for the last 20 years or So . Now in terms of re branding a new political party will disassociate Ruto from the ills of Jubilee and the incumbency which is usually a baggage for a regime changing election .
Imagine Ruto standing on Jubilee come 2022 with the song Jubilee Tano Tena playing . People already hate that song . Now imagine Ruto standing with a new party , new party slogan , new party colours , new everything and  a new message  the human nature in us will see him as a new kid in the block .
It worked for Kibaki with NARC Rainbow alliance and unbwogable slogan , It Worked with Uhuru with   TNA and I believe slogan

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Re: What was coup about?
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2020, 09:47:28 AM »
Yet,pundito and kalenjins still think Mobutu has a future in jubilee.Jubilee is reserved for Uhuru.I thought mobutu was smart enough to smell the coffee long time ago.

There was once KANU , NARC, PNU, TNA these are parties which ruled Kenya in the last 20 years , Jubilee its on its way to extcition . Ruto will emerge with a new party . Further youve been told not only once neither twice but many times , In Kenya political parties are special purpose vehicles , thats just the reality used for politicians to vie and acquire power nothing more nothing less.
I think Ruto had a vision for Jubilee to become a prominent National Party but his partner Uhuru cared less . So with that Jubilee is dead .but personally I believe Ruto should just proceed and form an all inclusive National party with members and politician from all parts of Kenya . The dream should live on ...

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Re: What was coup about?
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2020, 09:52:57 AM »
Jubilee as brand is dead as dodo. We got brand new hustler nation. Meanwhile ODM is stale and old as Raila.
There are 400 parties.
Old parties like KANU carry bad name - Ruto told Uhuru to form TNA for that reason.
ODM if you want Mt kenya - should do a renaming - it's toxic there.

Ruto is instigating this fight so the divorce can happen now.

Otherwise Ruto cannot just ran away from Jubilee. He has to be chased.

And Uhuru is doing exactly that.

ODM did the same - with Ruto -

Yet,pundito and kalenjins still think Mobutu has a future in jubilee.Jubilee is reserved for Uhuru.I thought mobutu was smart enough to smell the coffee long time ago.

I remember in the ICC proceedings Uhuru had almost  forgotten he was still KANUs chairman . He almost replied to questions from prosecutor that he was in G7 . This and the other question about Kagwanjas article  when asked if he had sued Kagwanja were the items he fumbled otherwise a good performance for him  . Ocampo was left with an egg on the face oooohh together with ODM supporters who thought his appearance would be his undoing .

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Re: What was coup about?
« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2020, 05:12:21 PM »
This present status of Mobutu mean machine :) Talk is so cheap - rallies and war cries and wheelbarrows; - form an actual party and see how many join. Usicheze na Baba - run a national party for a few years first. Win a few by-elections outside URP. Not hide behind Uhurutopia and Jezebel. Partywise even Gideon deserve more respect than Mobutu.
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Re: What was coup about?
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2020, 06:44:02 PM »
Hustler Nation is a party - just wait for it to be legal.
This present status of Mobutu mean machine :) Talk is so cheap - rallies and war cries and wheelbarrows; - form an actual party and see how many join. Usicheze na Baba - run a national party for a few years first. Win a few by-elections outside URP. Not hide behind Uhurutopia and Jezebel. Partywise even Gideon deserve more respect than Mobutu.

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Re: What was coup about?
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2020, 07:05:40 PM »
Kalenjin were already fighting in URP - I recall Keter and Isaac were South Rift rivals. Kaparo was shortchanged from Speaker post - for Turkana boy - Ethuro? After dramatic runs with Kamwaro in UDM - that small pastoralist party URP was already chaotic - NEC full of Kalenjin Chirchir, Nixon Generali, name it.

Now Jubilee of course - despite folks being purchased for 30 pieces of silver to join - poofed 2 minutes after swearing in. Mobutu is more expert in destroying not building.

Register hustler party - am sure Kingis, Mvuryas and Khalwales are dying to sign up.

Hustler Nation is a party - just wait for it to be legal.
This present status of Mobutu mean machine :) Talk is so cheap - rallies and war cries and wheelbarrows; - form an actual party and see how many join. Usicheze na Baba - run a national party for a few years first. Win a few by-elections outside URP. Not hide behind Uhurutopia and Jezebel. Partywise even Gideon deserve more respect than Mobutu.
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Re: What was coup about?
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2020, 07:17:23 PM »
You're scrapping the bottom of the barrel. Ruto believes in democracy. That is why RV there is freedom to oppose Ruto. URP did well - and Ruto merged it to create Jubilee for strategic reason.

You think it was stupid - but seeing how he has coupled with GEMA - I think it's was brilliant.

If we had URP/TNA - Uhuru would simply kick out URP - but know it's impossible to tell who is TNA or UPR - and when divorce happen - who will follow Uhuru to retirement?

Jubilee will transform into Hustler Nations - and take on new allies - who have a problem with Jubilee tag. That is idea of forming new party every election. For example how will Muthama or Ndii sell Jubilee.

But he will sell Hustler Nations.

Ruto is killing Jubilee because it no longer serve any purpose. He is on Plan B. Plan A was for Uhuru to hand over power smoothly.

Kalenjin were already fighting in URP - I recall Keter and Isaac were South Rift rivals. Kaparo was shortchanged from Speaker post - for Turkana boy - Ethuro? After dramatic runs with Kamwaro in UDM - that small pastoralist party URP was already chaotic - NEC full of Kalenjin Chirchir, Nixon Generali, name it.

Now Jubilee of course - despite folks being purchased for 30 pieces of silver to join - poofed 2 minutes after swearing in. Mobutu is more expert in destroying not building.

Register hustler party - am sure Kingis, Mvuryas and Khalwales are dying to sign up.

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Re: What was coup about?
« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2020, 07:43:41 PM »
He had full control of URP and Tangatanga would legally field candidates. Now with political parties act it back to UDM troubles. See the conundrum in swing turf like Msambweni where he is testing the waters - backing independent candidate is dicy - cause they are not really a brand. If he backs local party - the owners can later disown him if they become popular. It a nightmare situation - he still clings to Uhurutopia and heap all blame on Murathe or Tuju - with his own upstart he must face Uhuru squarely. This is a scary thought - it easier to spin about massive ground support without any proof. And cry Huduma is for rigging him.
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Re: What was coup about?
« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2020, 08:00:56 PM »
Ruto has won all the by-elections he has wanted except for Kibra - where Raila employed violence. He won Baringo and Wajir. These by-elections are not such a big deal. Technically Ruto and Jubilee members will remain in Jubilee until 2022. But they already move out to Hustler Nation movement. These are just the motions of a divorce.

Jubilee was only important to tightly couple with GEMA. It's achieved that objective.

ODM is NDP that tightly coupled with KANU.

Raila lost KANU nomination to Uhuru, quit KANU but he got KANU constituency that he has been bragging all over town with it.

You don't understand POLITICS.

Once you're tightly coupled - it not easy to divorce - and that is the whole idea of Jubilee - GEMA nations have exchanged fluids with Ruto - and will not abandon him for someone like Raila.

It won't be easy to de-couple Ruto from GEMA - GEMA only know about jubilee - hiyo TNA/URP long forgotten.

And it's not a spin - because it was I told you in 2016.

He had full control of URP and Tangatanga would legally field candidates. Now with political parties act it back to UDM troubles. See the conundrum in swing turf like Msambweni where he is testing the waters - backing independent candidate is dicy - cause they are not really a brand. If he backs local party - the owners can later disown him if they become popular. It a nightmare situation - he still clings to Uhurutopia and heap all blame on Murathe or Tuju - with his own upstart he must face Uhuru squarely. This is a scary thought - it easier to spin about massive ground support without any proof. And cry Huduma is for rigging him.