Uhuru should remove this Natembea - more deaths and injury as clashes continue

[RV Pundit]

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[Nowayhaha]

RV just for insight what is happening there , the tribal clashes are between which groups ?

[RV Pundit]

Kipsigis n ogiek.Ogiek sold land to kipsigis and move to new settlements in forest.Tobiko kicked them out.Now they want to kick kipsigis out.

[Nefertiti]

Thought Ogiek were strict forest dwellers since pre-colonial times. If they sold and MOVED to forest they deserve eviction. Noone should inhabit the forest now that preservers vs encroachers is blurred. My assumption is always that Ogieks or Dorobo coexist symbiotically in the catchments unlike say Kikuyu who are well known rapid deforesters.

[Nowayhaha]

Kipsigis n ogiek.Ogiek sold land to kipsigis and move to new settlements in forest.Tobiko kicked them out.Now they want to kick kipsigis out.

Hundreds flee Ndoswa area of Molo Sub-County following inter-clan clashes. Situation made worse due to lack of adequate land as others were kicked out of Mau Forest. pic.twitter.com/Tw9YfHYUak

— Samuel Ramtu (@Ramtu) July 30, 2020

[RV Pundit]

Thought Ogiek were strict forest dwellers since pre-colonial times. If they sold and MOVED to forest they deserve eviction. Noone should inhabit the forest now that preservers vs encroachers is blurred. My assumption is always that Ogieks or Dorobo coexist symbiotically in the catchments unlike say Kikuyu who are well known rapid deforesters.

That is why mau forest is complex.WB financed exercision to deal with ogiek issues but Railas and Natembea don't understand.Ogiek will sell land n go to forest until its fenced

[RV Pundit]

Kipsigis n ogiek.Ogiek sold land to kipsigis and move to new settlements in forest.Tobiko kicked them out.Now they want to kick kipsigis out.

Hundreds flee Ndoswa area of Molo Sub-County following inter-clan clashes. Situation made worse due to lack of adequate land as others were kicked out of Mau Forest. pic.twitter.com/Tw9YfHYUak

— Samuel Ramtu (@Ramtu) July 30, 2020

Na hii ni friendly fire aka practice matches..pray uhuru does not mess up..otherwise kikuyu farms will become new mau forest to invade

[Nefertiti]

Thought Ogiek were strict forest dwellers since pre-colonial times. If they sold and MOVED to forest they deserve eviction. Noone should inhabit the forest now that preservers vs encroachers is blurred. My assumption is always that Ogieks or Dorobo coexist symbiotically in the catchments unlike say Kikuyu who are well known rapid deforesters.

That is why mau forest is complex.WB financed exercision to deal with ogiek issues but Railas and Natembea don't understand.Ogiek will sell land n go to forest until its fenced

Can you please explain Ogiek vs Dorobo? Authentic forest dwellers vs encroachers.

[RV Pundit]

Thought Ogiek were strict forest dwellers since pre-colonial times. If they sold and MOVED to forest they deserve eviction. Noone should inhabit the forest now that preservers vs encroachers is blurred. My assumption is always that Ogieks or Dorobo coexist symbiotically in the catchments unlike say Kikuyu who are well known rapid deforesters.

That is why mau forest is complex.WB financed exercision to deal with ogiek issues but Railas and Natembea don't understand.Ogiek will sell land n go to forest until its fenced

Can you please explain Ogiek vs Dorobo? Authentic forest dwellers vs encroachers.

ogiek speak kalenjin.dorobo maasai.athi n gumba now kikuyu n kamba.boni speak Somali .These are khoisan relatives who survive on honey n hunting..they look different..mostly brown and short

[Nowayhaha]

Kipsigis n ogiek.Ogiek sold land to kipsigis and move to new settlements in forest.Tobiko kicked them out.Now they want to kick kipsigis out.

Hundreds flee Ndoswa area of Molo Sub-County following inter-clan clashes. Situation made worse due to lack of adequate land as others were kicked out of Mau Forest. pic.twitter.com/Tw9YfHYUak

— Samuel Ramtu (@Ramtu) July 30, 2020

Na hii ni friendly fire aka practice matches..pray uhuru does not mess up..otherwise kikuyu farms will become new mau forest to invade

RV, you dont what violence is and how it transforms , Now you see Kalenjin (Both Ogiek and Kipsigis are  Kalenjin )are fighting between themselves using 90s tactics . Kalenjin knows the consequence of starting a war in Nakuru  , thats why you see the clashes are currently restricted between Kalenjins . 

[Nowayhaha]

Thought Ogiek were strict forest dwellers since pre-colonial times. If they sold and MOVED to forest they deserve eviction. Noone should inhabit the forest now that preservers vs encroachers is blurred. My assumption is always that Ogieks or Dorobo coexist symbiotically in the catchments unlike say Kikuyu who are well known rapid deforesters.

That is why mau forest is complex.WB financed exercision to deal with ogiek issues but Railas and Natembea don't understand.Ogiek will sell land n go to forest until its fenced

Can you please explain Ogiek vs Dorobo? Authentic forest dwellers vs encroachers.

ogiek speak kalenjin.dorobo maasai.athi n gumba now kikuyu n kamba.boni speak Somali .These are khoisan relatives who survive on honey n hunting..they look different..mostly brown and short

Ogieks are Kalenjin and they identify themselves as that . They even hold Kalenjin names

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalenjin_people

The Kalenjin are a group of Southern Nilotic peoples indigenous to East Africa, residing mainly in what was formerly the Rift Valley Province in Kenya. They number 6,358,113 individuals as per the Kenyan 2019 census. They are divided into nine culturally and linguistically related clans: Kipsigis, Nandi, Keiyo, Marakwet, Sabaot, Pokots, Tugen, Terik and Ogiek.[2] They speak Kalenjin languages, which belong to the Nilotic language family.

[RV Pundit]

Kipsigis n ogiek.Ogiek sold land to kipsigis and move to new settlements in forest.Tobiko kicked them out.Now they want to kick kipsigis out.

Hundreds flee Ndoswa area of Molo Sub-County following inter-clan clashes. Situation made worse due to lack of adequate land as others were kicked out of Mau Forest. pic.twitter.com/Tw9YfHYUak

— Samuel Ramtu (@Ramtu) July 30, 2020

Na hii ni friendly fire aka practice matches..pray uhuru does not mess up..otherwise kikuyu farms will become new mau forest to invade

RV, you dont what violence is and how it transforms , Now you see Kalenjin (Both Ogiek and Kipsigis are  Kalenjin )are fighting between themselves using 90s tactics . Kalenjin knows the consequence of starting a war in Nakuru  , thats why you see the clashes are currently restricted between Kalenjins . 

you're really scared

[RV Pundit]

Thought Ogiek were strict forest dwellers since pre-colonial times. If they sold and MOVED to forest they deserve eviction. Noone should inhabit the forest now that preservers vs encroachers is blurred. My assumption is always that Ogieks or Dorobo coexist symbiotically in the catchments unlike say Kikuyu who are well known rapid deforesters.

That is why mau forest is complex.WB financed exercision to deal with ogiek issues but Railas and Natembea don't understand.Ogiek will sell land n go to forest until its fenced

Can you please explain Ogiek vs Dorobo? Authentic forest dwellers vs encroachers.

ogiek speak kalenjin.dorobo maasai.athi n gumba now kikuyu n kamba.boni speak Somali .These are khoisan relatives who survive on honey n hunting..they look different..mostly brown and short

Ogieks are Kalenjin and they identify themselves as that . They even hold Kalenjin names

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalenjin_people

The Kalenjin are a group of Southern Nilotic peoples indigenous to East Africa, residing mainly in what was formerly the Rift Valley Province in Kenya. They number 6,358,113 individuals as per the Kenyan 2019 census. They are divided into nine culturally and linguistically related clans: Kipsigis, Nandi, Keiyo, Marakwet, Sabaot, Pokots, Tugen, Terik and Ogiek.[2] They speak Kalenjin languages, which belong to the Nilotic language family.

ogiek have lived with kalenjin for longest..more than 2,000yrs...yes they kalenjin..but not from Sudan.. their genetic is different..their looks different..lifestyle different ..ogiek generally no a threat as they mind their forest gigs...but now its illegal to be an ogiek as forests are protected

[Nowayhaha]

Kipsigis n ogiek.Ogiek sold land to kipsigis and move to new settlements in forest.Tobiko kicked them out.Now they want to kick kipsigis out.

Hundreds flee Ndoswa area of Molo Sub-County following inter-clan clashes. Situation made worse due to lack of adequate land as others were kicked out of Mau Forest. pic.twitter.com/Tw9YfHYUak

— Samuel Ramtu (@Ramtu) July 30, 2020

Na hii ni friendly fire aka practice matches..pray uhuru does not mess up..otherwise kikuyu farms will become new mau forest to invade

RV, you dont what violence is and how it transforms , Now you see Kalenjin (Both Ogiek and Kipsigis are  Kalenjin )are fighting between themselves using 90s tactics . Kalenjin knows the consequence of starting a war in Nakuru  , thats why you see the clashes are currently restricted between Kalenjins . 

you're really scared

Scared of what ?  There is nothing to be scared of , I would only be worried if there were signs of Raila winning , now that there are no signs , I sit pretty well .

[RV Pundit]

Yes it looks like Uhuru will fail to ignite the spark otherwise everything appears set for 2007 progrom repeat.Uhuru remains the biggest threat to Kenya peace n stability. HE SHOULD REDUCE DRUGS.He should also get more mouthfuls  advice from Kenyans