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Offline Njuri Ncheke

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Re: Ruto has decided to become official opposition leader
« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2020, 12:15:53 PM »
I don't know why luos/odomos have never cracked the GEMA mind even after decades of being shafted and manipulated , if you see uhurus henchmen like kangata, murathe, kimunya, kamanda etc remain silent on this issue and then you hear odomos shout loudest to defend gvt, this tells you come 2022 there will be mass suicide in lake Victoria, i predicts 1000s of luos and allied hoi polloi kabilas jumping and drowning in lake because raira won't even come close to getting pork,raira might get a heart attack to finish his misery, my only question is if our dear Robina will commit suicide too.
There is a reason eacc has been reactivated by gatheca to go for waiguru, reason is because the mountain populace has been  in a silent but simmering revolt after senate saved her, gatheca has gotten this and now will throw sweetie waiguru under the bus, if there are people so adversely affected by corruption isGEMA, people are tired and raira/odomo have been seen to aid and facilitate the looting of the country. The cartels have brainwashed baba and his cohorts to believe if they defend them then they will get kura enmasee 2022 but exactly opposite is true, mzito Ruto is now being called the saint.

Offline Nowayhaha

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Re: Ruto has decided to become official opposition leader
« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2020, 07:03:04 AM »
Yeah ruto can win that way but with a hostile state and big chunk of population he won't easily score. Uhuru know it will be fatal to let ruto win. The only way to power for ruto is by a coup. Democracy he will be cheated.

The premise of you argument is wrong , as you probably witnessed in 2002 and 2013 a hostile state does change once it realizes change is coming. By end  2002 Sally Kosgei had told her team to prepare for transition of power . The powers that be in Cabinet know they will not be part of the next Government , you have Matiangi and  Kibichos gunning for politics in 2022 elections .Joseph Kinyua is unlike before delagating most of his duties to Nzioka Waita and Njee Muturi .
A big chuck of population actually supports him . If he didnt have that support ODM wouldnt be throwing mud at him . ask your self why is ODM fascinated with Ruto and not Kalonzo or Mudavadi or Wetangula  or Peter Kenneth ?
 

Ruto grassroots support is superficial. Uhuru is the most moderate president..second to kibaki. Ruto can't take on uhuru because uhuru has refused to engage him. Uhuru has totally subdued ruto. Ruto needs uhuru to fight him for relevance. It is like how kalonzo is trying to engage raila but raila is just serving him cold contempt. Bottomline ruto has to create an euphoria against uhuru..
The same thinking which made Raila to go against Kibaki , if he would have been patient he would have been the president in 2012 and would be finishing his term by now  . Luckily Ruto advices himself and he has not taken this approach

it won't happen. Uhuru cabinet too has adopted a strategy of ignoring Tangatanga. They have decided not respond to them or engage them. So ruto is confused he is trying to go directly to Kikuyus peasants but they do not trust him fully so all they do is eat his money and not do much for him. Ruto is done.
Its Matiangi and Kibicho who are on the media explaining what deep state is .... which Kenya do you live in ?

The other thing Ruto is unacceptable to the west and may even other EA leaders.
Where did you get this ? are we talking of the same person or you are talking of Museveni ?

He has  no leverage other than his people deciding to kill Kikuyus. However, Kalenjin community may decide that it worthy it to take on Kikuyus.

This is the desperate line you tried to sell in 2013 as ODM you even went and paid foreign media to propagate this message . You were not successful then , what makes you think you will be successful this time around

THE STATE is UNITED TO STOP RUTO. That is all you need to know.
Well Goodluck , for your information they were in 2013  it also didnt succeed

All Uhuru now needs is to start serious out reach in Kalenjin Land. he should appoint, develop and come up with plans that directly target the locals. Once the locals have been appeased ruto won't have leverage. There is also what seems to be mistrust of ruto by young upcoming political elites in RV. They do not want to be out of power again. They did not win because of him they won despite him. Ruto is spending too much of his political capital chasing Central strategy that is an illusion. Raila lost 2013 by betting on Central voters ..Kibaki double crossed him and took the sails out of his candidacy.. Right now Raila is waiting for Uhuru to be become a serious lame-duck and he will disengage with him. You can tell that Raila is keeping his cards close to his chest. He sending everyone on a wild goose chase
Good advisors , now Uhuru should campaign for Raila in 2022 .You seem never able to learn from history , MOI did the same with Uhuru Project , it failed miserably . .In 2002 KANU told MOI, Kibaki chasing Western and Lower strategy was an illusion , the result was a massive defeat of KANU .
Ruto has been clear that he does not trust Raila and he knows Railas true intentions . He has learnt from history  , you have not learnt and you are suffering from self deceit . Wake up and smell the coffee . If I were you would just tell Raila let it be its over support another candidate  thats the best shot he has actually his only silver buller

Offline Nowayhaha

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Re: Ruto has decided to become official opposition leader
« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2020, 07:08:51 AM »
What is there to rebutt when you're pleading for a lamefuvk who should be preparing to retire to do your baba battles.Uhuru should burn the midnight oil to resume the economy especially education and then starts disengagement while he still have some respect.This formulae  and covid corruption has taken off the wind from his sail.The drunkard now routinely speak kikuyu in national forums.The man is now despised by all sides...

Uhuru won't worry about a,dead economy. Right now he just appeasing kikuyus. Raila is not desperate to be pork. He can sit out the elections and let someone take over..
Please tell to do so ....
kenyan debt is spiraling out of control..so i anticipate that imf and world bank will be running kenya from mid next year to elections time. Ruto will face an anxious electorate. He will crucified with the same crufix that will face uhuru on his way out. The damage the duo have done to kenya economy is unconscionable. You too invested on ruto to see the big picture. Kenya is done. Uhuru and ruto are like a newly wed couple that takes inherited land to the bank as collateral to buy a Matatu or invest in rural home with no income to pay it back. Jubilee has made economic mistakes that even moi didn't make.
Actually Kenyans see the damage as having been caused by the handshake . You can say in one post Uhuru and Ruto have separated and how Uhuru will assist Raila win  2022 and in the nexp post say  Uhuru and Ruto a wed couple . You need to decide which route your argument will take 

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Re: Ruto has decided to become official opposition leader
« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2020, 07:11:20 AM »
If Jubilee survived Eurobond 2B dollars - what is 50B covid? Heck Moi pulled through Goldenberg. The most significant thing happening now is shift in Mt Kenya against Ruto. Raila is angling to inherit Uhuru block.

And like magic , Mt Kenya will support Raila .......and you always wonder when you lose elections and complain the elections were rigged .....well 2022 wont be much different

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Re: Ruto has decided to become official opposition leader
« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2020, 08:15:13 AM »
I beg to respectfully differ with the Ruto crew. The elections are a lifetime away, Information will be coming out that will make the Ruto presidency completely unpalatable to Kenyans. The URP wing of the jubilee government stole like their life depended on it. It became so apparent when they started inflating electric bills, it’s one thing to steal money in complicated schemes , but taking money directly from people’s pockets takes it to another level. I cannot believe that in Kenya right now our choice is who is the lesser thief, we are a cursed people. Like Njamba, I have a hard time figuring Ruto’s route to presidency And if he is elected it will become like the Trump effect, riots everywhere making the country ungovernable.

Offline RV Pundit

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Re: Ruto has decided to become official opposition leader
« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2020, 10:43:30 AM »
More shocking than ICC - of ten years ago :). You guys got jokes. Ruto is now clean as pamba - he last stole years ago - and Uhuru is stealing right now. People as always will focus on the current thief. Including the defender Raila.
I beg to respectfully differ with the Ruto crew. The elections are a lifetime away, Information will be coming out that will make the Ruto presidency completely unpalatable to Kenyans. The URP wing of the jubilee government stole like their life depended on it. It became so apparent when they started inflating electric bills, it’s one thing to steal money in complicated schemes , but taking money directly from people’s pockets takes it to another level. I cannot believe that in Kenya right now our choice is who is the lesser thief, we are a cursed people. Like Njamba, I have a hard time figuring Ruto’s route to presidency And if he is elected it will become like the Trump effect, riots everywhere making the country ungovernable.

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Re: Ruto has decided to become official opposition leader
« Reply #26 on: August 24, 2020, 04:47:53 PM »
The center of Power has shifted to Raila. Everyone is drinking from Baba hands

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Re: Ruto has decided to become official opposition leader
« Reply #27 on: August 25, 2020, 06:01:32 PM »
Why can't he lead a demo against the government?
Celebratory violence: 2017 crime invented to justify killings to prevent Raila from becoming PORK. http://www.nipate.com/download/file.php?id=4244