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Re: Mwangi Kiunjuri to launch the Service Party
« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2020, 02:32:39 PM »
Is Kiunjuri gunning for PORK or backing Mobutu? What his stand on BBI?
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Re: Mwangi Kiunjuri to launch the Service Party
« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2020, 02:34:39 PM »
As if your talk of brilliant Ruto is any better. Very boring. Come up with something new.

It's get boring and predictable when all you say is the same. We are at cross-roads. Kitendaweali. You soon become yule mtu was vitendawili.

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Re: Mwangi Kiunjuri to launch the Service Party
« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2020, 02:51:47 PM »
He will gun for PORK and at last minute enter coalition with Ruto - same TNA v URP kind of arrangement. BBI - how can you support something nobody knows. BBI 1.0 yes that one can come anytime.

The other BBI 2.0 has 5 days to get well-cooked. If it has regional gov - DOA. If it has parliamentary - DOA. everything else can pass.

Is Kiunjuri gunning for PORK or backing Mobutu? What his stand on BBI?

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Re: Mwangi Kiunjuri to launch the Service Party
« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2020, 03:19:25 PM »
PK is not Karua level - he lost to Uhuru not Raila. Karua was third in Kirinyaga - Uhuru 96%, Raila 2%, Karua 1%. We know what went down in Nairobi JP primaries : polls were 50-50 with PK having the edge - but Sonko score 3X PK which is nonsense. The other lie about sum dwellers or underclass backing Sonko - is just that - cause he beat Kidero with razor-thin margin - while 70% of Nairobi folks are slum dwellers. Sonko's magical slum following only manifested in rigged Jubilee primaries. PK cannot be equated with sulking Martha. She need to learn how to smile first. Then face the lingering sexism which is sadly a big deal.

The GEMA "diaspora" clique is Kericho and Eldoret - caused by PEV. In Nakuru possibly Molo and Njoro; Bahati, Nakuru Town, Gilgil, Naivasha - are Kiambu and Nyandarua crew. Same as Laikipia where PEV has never happened. Diaspora is created by and limited to Kalenjin savagery - a pretty tiny unbankable constituency that Kiunjuri does not even belong. No diaspora in Narok, Machakos or Isiolo where many Kikuyu and Meru have dwelled for decades.
 
Kiunjuri has no national stature. He has no known achievements - not even CDF like PK. Starving folks died in droves when he was Devolution CS. NCPB, maize and other scandals erupted around his Agric ministry. Farmer big issues grew in Mt Kenya under his watch. Todate you have no answer to simple questions: how is he better than PK? Has he won any elective post since 2007? Who beat him for Laikipia governor - while unknown Kibaki nephew win easily as independent? At least PK, Karua or Munya lost to well known established rivals - Sonko, Waiguru, Kiraitu. Can you recall the guy who floored Kiunjuri? What did he deliver to Jubilee - Mt Kenya West? :) How do you measure his mettle?

Kiunjuri is only popular for fumbling and Nyakinyua proverbs. Well deep accent is not a crime - but it a reality in public court - cause he seem to think in Kikuyu and literally translate to English. I can barely follow his speeches. PK cut a sellable well- groomed figure if you take off the blinkers. He is also from Murang'a - a true GEMA constituency like Meru - unlike Laikipia which is Nyeri extension. Waiguru of course is damaged goods - Karua is unpalatable - so we are left with PK vs Kiunjuri. It a no-brainer. If Kiunjuri declare a run for PORK - PK will swiftly follow - as Jubilee aspirant with party and machinery backing :D Worse Kiunjuri strategy of backing Mobutu - an alien - has no takers. Cause people follow the top honcho not VP.

Nope. Politics is dynamic. I think now there is a GEMA diaspora const  with their own unique interest post 2007. Their main interest now is their peace with RV. Those ones are almost militantly pro-Ruto. Nakuru and Laikipia and Uasingishu kikuyus are running away with Kiunjuri. He will then easily combine Nyeri-Kirinyanga. That make him top favourite for DPORK in Ruto's calculation.

Kiunjuri has had lot of improvement in English diction - and he was a minister. Nothing stop him from a little promotion to DPORK.

Now to your double standards. PK and Martha :).

PK is hopeless like Martha Karua. He also lost national vote including in Gatanga. He also lost Nairobi County like Martha lost in Kirinyanga. Both are politicians that are done. Many new generation GEMA don't remember what they did 10-15yrs ago. You lose twice and you're out.

Now when it comes to Raila's Mt Kenya stooge. I think only Waiguru so far has positioned herself for that. She knows she is DONE KAPUT in Kirinyanga and will take Raila's offer with both hands.

Wa-Iria is working with Kalonzo and Gideon Moi.
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Re: Mwangi Kiunjuri to launch the Service Party
« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2020, 03:24:54 PM »
Kiunjuri is a skilled grassroots mobilizer even though now I dont see him having any impact you can't write him off, disenfranchised kikuyus could easily flock into his party and the way the addict behaves towards GEMA dissidents  also will count, but am seeing Kiunjuri ready and worked up for a bruising battle, he might want to potray this as a homeguard vs mau mau descendants

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Re: Mwangi Kiunjuri to launch the Service Party
« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2020, 03:39:12 PM »
PK is not Karua level - he lost to Uhuru not Raila. Karua was third in Kirinyaga - Uhuru 96%, Raila 2%, Karua 1%. We know what went down in Nairobi JP primaries : polls were 50-50 with PK having the edge - but Sonko score 3X PK which is nonsense. The other lie about sum dwellers or underclass backing Sonko - is just that - cause he beat Kidero with razor-thin margin - while 70% of Nairobi folks are slum dwellers. Sonko's magical slum following only manifested in rigged Jubilee primaries. PK cannot be equated with sulking Martha. She need to learn how to smile first. Then face the lingering sexism which is sadly a big deal.

The GEMA "diaspora" clique is Kericho and Eldoret - caused by PEV. In Nakuru possibly Molo and Njoro; Bahati, Nakuru Town, Gilgil, Naivasha - are Kiambu and Nyandarua crew. Same as Laikipia where PEV has never happened. Diaspora is created by and limited to Kalenjin savagery - a pretty tiny unbankable constituency that Kiunjuri does not even belong. No diaspora in Narok, Machakos or Isiolo where many Kikuyu and Meru have dwelled for decades.
 
Kiunjuri has no national stature. He has no known achievements - not even CDF like PK. Starving folks died in droves when he was Devolution CS. NCPB, maize and other scandals erupted around his Agric ministry. Farmer big issues grew in Mt Kenya under his watch. Todate you have no answer to simple questions: how is he better than PK? Has he won any elective post since 2007? Who beat him for Laikipia governor - while unknown Kibaki nephew win easily as independent? At least PK, Karua or Munya lost to well known established rivals - Sonko, Waiguru, Kiraitu. Can you recall the guy who floored Kiunjuri? What did he deliver to Jubilee - Mt Kenya West? :) How do you measure his mettle?

Kiunjuri is only popular for fumbling and Nyakinyua proverbs. Well deep accent is not a crime - but it a reality in public court - cause he seem to think in Kikuyu and literally translate to English. I can barely follow his speeches. PK cut a sellable well- groomed figure if you take off the blinkers. He is also from Murang'a - a true GEMA constituency like Meru - unlike Laikipia which is Nyeri extension. Waiguru of course is damaged goods - Karua is unpalatable - so we are left with PK vs Kiunjuri. It a no-brainer. If Kiunjuri declare a run for PORK - PK will swiftly follow - as Jubilee aspirant with party and machinery backing :D Worse Kiunjuri strategy of backing Mobutu - an alien - has no takers. Cause people follow the top honcho not VP.
Hehehe, honestly you getting good at knowing GEMA, your tutor is doing some good work this just overnight for someone that was mumbling incoherence on GEMA just the other day, anyway practice makes perfect but you still are away to fitting or the puzzles.

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Re: Mwangi Kiunjuri to launch the Service Party
« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2020, 03:51:20 PM »
I will try my best to summarize.

PK is damaged goods. He will need to be rehabilitated like now. Given say a big ministry so people can even remember who he is and what he stands for.  As of now - he is not in the psyche of GEMA. If indeed Uhuru is propping a stooge...he'd go for someone like Corona man Mutahi Kagwe married to Michukos..long before PK. Anyway, let us talk when he is given something that would show Uhuru considers him important to be in gov.Not another Raila kept at arm's length:) and Robina is building castles from here to Timbukut. It's already nearly too late...if he doesn't get in the next reshuffle..he is out...completely forgotten joke..who will probably come to Nairobi for another whipping.

MK - Mwangi Kiunjuri - has proven himself as GEMA defender since the Moi era. He first came to parliament with Ruto in 1997. So this not someone who is new. He became Ass min with Kibaki and then formed his own party that won Nyeri governorship and couple of MCA seats in Laikipia, Nyeri and Kirinyanga.

The genius of MK-Ruto is the 2017 nomination rout. He basically killed all the competition mostly through Kameme Fm. Now we are talking abotu PK :). Give Kiunjuri Kameme and Inooro fm - and he will deliver 2022. I am not sure if Ruto managed to get Kamame fm..but they will need it.

Now talking of Diaspora. RV Kikuyu Diaspora has long identified as one but has always voted with the rest of GEMA. The Kalenjin are the only one who attacks them - sometimes it Maasai - like GEMA diaspora in Narok and Kajiado and Laikipia. Those who get kicked out from Eldoret land in Naivasha and Subukia etc...long before they end up in Muranga and etc. If Kiunjuri-Ruto merges - kikuyu diaspora will under lock and key - and the battle will really be fought in  Central proper. Kiunjuri can do damage in Nyeri-Kirinyanga - and Uhuru is competitive maybe in Muranga - Kiambu will reject him :) the way Baringo don't have time for Gideon Moi. Kiambu have nothing to show for all the 10yrs under Uhuru - why kill for him? It's like Tugen realizing moi was good for nothing scam.

Anyway, all this is conjecture. What is not conjecture - anybody associating with Raila in GEMA is cutting short their career - including Uhuru :)

PK is not Karua level - he lost to Uhuru not Raila. Karua was third in Kirinyaga - Uhuru 96%, Raila 2%, Karua 1%. We know what went down in Nairobi JP primaries : polls were 50-50 with PK having the edge - but Sonko score 3X PK which is nonsense. The other lie about sum dwellers or underclass backing Sonko - is just that - cause he beat Kidero with razor-thin margin - while 70% of Nairobi folks are slum dwellers. Sonko's magical slum following only manifested in rigged Jubilee primaries. PK cannot be equated with sulking Martha. She need to learn how to smile first. Then face the lingering sexism which is sadly a big deal.

The GEMA "diaspora" clique is Kericho and Eldoret - caused by PEV. In Nakuru possibly Molo and Njoro; Bahati, Nakuru Town, Gilgil, Naivasha - are Kiambu and Nyandarua crew. Same as Laikipia where PEV has never happened. Diaspora is created by and limited to Kalenjin savagery - a pretty tiny unbankable constituency that Kiunjuri does not even belong. No diaspora in Narok, Machakos or Isiolo where many Kikuyu and Meru have dwelled for decades.
 
Kiunjuri has no national stature. He has no known achievements - not even CDF like PK. Starving folks died in droves when he was Devolution CS. NCPB, maize and other scandals erupted around his Agric ministry. Farmer big issues grew in Mt Kenya under his watch. Todate you have no answer to simple questions: how is he better than PK? Has he won any elective post since 2007? Who beat him for Laikipia governor - while unknown Kibaki nephew win easily as independent? At least PK, Karua or Munya lost to well known established rivals - Sonko, Waiguru, Kiraitu. Can you recall the guy who floored Kiunjuri? What did he deliver to Jubilee - Mt Kenya West? :) How do you measure his mettle?

Kiunjuri is only popular for fumbling and Nyakinyua proverbs. Well deep accent is not a crime - but it a reality in public court - cause he seem to think in Kikuyu and literally translate to English. I can barely follow his speeches. PK cut a sellable well- groomed figure if you take off the blinkers. He is also from Murang'a - a true GEMA constituency like Meru - unlike Laikipia which is Nyeri extension. Waiguru of course is damaged goods - Karua is unpalatable - so we are left with PK vs Kiunjuri. It a no-brainer. If Kiunjuri declare a run for PORK - PK will swiftly follow - as Jubilee aspirant with party and machinery backing :D Worse Kiunjuri strategy of backing Mobutu - an alien - has no takers. Cause people follow the top honcho not VP.

Nope. Politics is dynamic. I think now there is a GEMA diaspora const  with their own unique interest post 2007. Their main interest now is their peace with RV. Those ones are almost militantly pro-Ruto. Nakuru and Laikipia and Uasingishu kikuyus are running away with Kiunjuri. He will then easily combine Nyeri-Kirinyanga. That make him top favourite for DPORK in Ruto's calculation.

Kiunjuri has had lot of improvement in English diction - and he was a minister. Nothing stop him from a little promotion to DPORK.

Now to your double standards. PK and Martha :).

PK is hopeless like Martha Karua. He also lost national vote including in Gatanga. He also lost Nairobi County like Martha lost in Kirinyanga. Both are politicians that are done. Many new generation GEMA don't remember what they did 10-15yrs ago. You lose twice and you're out.

Now when it comes to Raila's Mt Kenya stooge. I think only Waiguru so far has positioned herself for that. She knows she is DONE KAPUT in Kirinyanga and will take Raila's offer with both hands.

Wa-Iria is working with Kalonzo and Gideon Moi.

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Re: Mwangi Kiunjuri to launch the Service Party
« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2020, 03:53:33 PM »
Yes and Kiunjuri having battled Moi - will laugh off any attempts to be intimidated. You cannot intimidate him like the other new guys like Kurias, Ndindis. And he can easily cause the revolution. He is a Mungiki I bet :)

He already run against Uhuru's TNA and gave good showing - better than PK and Karua could pull.

His last wealth filling - also showed he is not poor man - I think he had nearly 1B kshs in wealth declaration.

Kiunjuri just needs to afraid of Uhuru killing him - frustrated Uhuru I bet will soon resolve to assassination squad. Otherwise, he can become the fulcrum for Uhuru rebellion in GEMA like Ruto was to Moi.

Kiunjuri is a skilled grassroots mobilizer even though now I dont see him having any impact you can't write him off, disenfranchised kikuyus could easily flock into his party and the way the addict behaves towards GEMA dissidents  also will count, but am seeing Kiunjuri ready and worked up for a bruising battle, he might want to potray this as a homeguard vs mau mau descendants

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Re: Mwangi Kiunjuri to launch the Service Party
« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2020, 05:03:18 PM »
Or better location like K-Street in Nairobi.

The real service party with a heart logo to go with it. They should have waited for Valentine's day.

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Re: Mwangi Kiunjuri to launch the Service Party
« Reply #29 on: June 24, 2020, 08:40:03 PM »
BBI2 most likely parliamentary - Johos, Oparanyas and Mutuas will be MPs and possible Ministers so they don't need 3rd tier motivation. Nobody seriously demanded 3rd tier in proposals to Haji wazee. Parliamentary has big following in non-GEMA who are fed up with RVGEMA monopoly of power. Ruto is as good as surrendered to Handshake - cause he doesn't want 30% vs Handshake 70 deathknell :) - his crew of Aaron Cheruiyots and Cherargeis openly suggest they will not oppose BBI. They might just bribe Kikuyu with few more MPs like the brazen pampering and romancing going on right now - Mau Mau Road sijui Matiba Road, coffee funds, potato factories, name it. GEMA will not give up all that creme and glory to pay Ruto debt.

Anyway it only few more days - BBI and GNU. If Uhuru want a stooge - he will elevate PK to CS Infra - as they hang embattled Macharia. Raila will just work with Uhuru stooge and has no Waiguru or GEMA plan B.

He will gun for PORK and at last minute enter coalition with Ruto - same TNA v URP kind of arrangement. BBI - how can you support something nobody knows. BBI 1.0 yes that one can come anytime.

The other BBI 2.0 has 5 days to get well-cooked. If it has regional gov - DOA. If it has parliamentary - DOA. everything else can pass.

Is Kiunjuri gunning for PORK or backing Mobutu? What his stand on BBI?
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Re: Mwangi Kiunjuri to launch the Service Party
« Reply #30 on: June 24, 2020, 08:42:10 PM »
Pundit assuming status quo remains - no BBI - what happens to Mdvd and Luhya in Ruto camp? As he angle for GEMA slice with Kiunjuri.
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Re: Mwangi Kiunjuri to launch the Service Party
« Reply #31 on: June 24, 2020, 08:59:44 PM »
I will try my best to summarize.

PK is damaged goods. He will need to be rehabilitated like now. Given say a big ministry so people can even remember who he is and what he stands for.  As of now - he is not in the psyche of GEMA. If indeed Uhuru is propping a stooge...he'd go for someone like Corona man Mutahi Kagwe married to Michukos..long before PK. Anyway, let us talk when he is given something that would show Uhuru considers him important to be in gov.Not another Raila kept at arm's length:) and Robina is building castles from here to Timbukut. It's already nearly too late...if he doesn't get in the next reshuffle..he is out...completely forgotten joke..who will probably come to Nairobi for another whipping.

MK - Mwangi Kiunjuri - has proven himself as GEMA defender since the Moi era. He first came to parliament with Ruto in 1997. So this not someone who is new. He became Ass min with Kibaki and then formed his own party that won Nyeri governorship and couple of MCA seats in Laikipia, Nyeri and Kirinyanga.

The genius of MK-Ruto is the 2017 nomination rout. He basically killed all the competition mostly through Kameme Fm. Now we are talking abotu PK :). Give Kiunjuri Kameme and Inooro fm - and he will deliver 2022. I am not sure if Ruto managed to get Kamame fm..but they will need it.

Now talking of Diaspora. RV Kikuyu Diaspora has long identified as one but has always voted with the rest of GEMA. The Kalenjin are the only one who attacks them - sometimes it Maasai - like GEMA diaspora in Narok and Kajiado and Laikipia. Those who get kicked out from Eldoret land in Naivasha and Subukia etc...long before they end up in Muranga and etc. If Kiunjuri-Ruto merges - kikuyu diaspora will under lock and key - and the battle will really be fought in  Central proper. Kiunjuri can do damage in Nyeri-Kirinyanga - and Uhuru is competitive maybe in Muranga - Kiambu will reject him :) the way Baringo don't have time for Gideon Moi. Kiambu have nothing to show for all the 10yrs under Uhuru - why kill for him? It's like Tugen realizing moi was good for nothing scam.

Anyway, all this is conjecture. What is not conjecture - anybody associating with Raila in GEMA is cutting short their career - including Uhuru :)

PK is not Karua level - he lost to Uhuru not Raila. Karua was third in Kirinyaga - Uhuru 96%, Raila 2%, Karua 1%. We know what went down in Nairobi JP primaries : polls were 50-50 with PK having the edge - but Sonko score 3X PK which is nonsense. The other lie about sum dwellers or underclass backing Sonko - is just that - cause he beat Kidero with razor-thin margin - while 70% of Nairobi folks are slum dwellers. Sonko's magical slum following only manifested in rigged Jubilee primaries. PK cannot be equated with sulking Martha. She need to learn how to smile first. Then face the lingering sexism which is sadly a big deal.

The GEMA "diaspora" clique is Kericho and Eldoret - caused by PEV. In Nakuru possibly Molo and Njoro; Bahati, Nakuru Town, Gilgil, Naivasha - are Kiambu and Nyandarua crew. Same as Laikipia where PEV has never happened. Diaspora is created by and limited to Kalenjin savagery - a pretty tiny unbankable constituency that Kiunjuri does not even belong. No diaspora in Narok, Machakos or Isiolo where many Kikuyu and Meru have dwelled for decades.
 
Kiunjuri has no national stature. He has no known achievements - not even CDF like PK. Starving folks died in droves when he was Devolution CS. NCPB, maize and other scandals erupted around his Agric ministry. Farmer big issues grew in Mt Kenya under his watch. Todate you have no answer to simple questions: how is he better than PK? Has he won any elective post since 2007? Who beat him for Laikipia governor - while unknown Kibaki nephew win easily as independent? At least PK, Karua or Munya lost to well known established rivals - Sonko, Waiguru, Kiraitu. Can you recall the guy who floored Kiunjuri? What did he deliver to Jubilee - Mt Kenya West? :) How do you measure his mettle?

Kiunjuri is only popular for fumbling and Nyakinyua proverbs. Well deep accent is not a crime - but it a reality in public court - cause he seem to think in Kikuyu and literally translate to English. I can barely follow his speeches. PK cut a sellable well- groomed figure if you take off the blinkers. He is also from Murang'a - a true GEMA constituency like Meru - unlike Laikipia which is Nyeri extension. Waiguru of course is damaged goods - Karua is unpalatable - so we are left with PK vs Kiunjuri. It a no-brainer. If Kiunjuri declare a run for PORK - PK will swiftly follow - as Jubilee aspirant with party and machinery backing :D Worse Kiunjuri strategy of backing Mobutu - an alien - has no takers. Cause people follow the top honcho not VP.

Nope. Politics is dynamic. I think now there is a GEMA diaspora const  with their own unique interest post 2007. Their main interest now is their peace with RV. Those ones are almost militantly pro-Ruto. Nakuru and Laikipia and Uasingishu kikuyus are running away with Kiunjuri. He will then easily combine Nyeri-Kirinyanga. That make him top favourite for DPORK in Ruto's calculation.

Kiunjuri has had lot of improvement in English diction - and he was a minister. Nothing stop him from a little promotion to DPORK.

Now to your double standards. PK and Martha :).

PK is hopeless like Martha Karua. He also lost national vote including in Gatanga. He also lost Nairobi County like Martha lost in Kirinyanga. Both are politicians that are done. Many new generation GEMA don't remember what they did 10-15yrs ago. You lose twice and you're out.

Now when it comes to Raila's Mt Kenya stooge. I think only Waiguru so far has positioned herself for that. She knows she is DONE KAPUT in Kirinyanga and will take Raila's offer with both hands.

Wa-Iria is working with Kalonzo and Gideon Moi.


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Anyway, all this is conjecture. What is not conjecture - anybody associating with Raila in GEMA is cutting short their career - including Uhuru 

In Mt Kenya anyone who will be able associate themselves with Ruto(the face of anti Raila ) will be able to make it. And not  last minute like the likes of P.K. and Martha in 2017 when the Sonkos , WaIria and Waiguru were ready with schemes and machinations . Stand out and become the biggest  Futo supporter and defender Kabogo managed that in 2013 and Sonko in 2017. Opponents will have either to decide to run on a different part or take a different position all together.
I can see Kuria ,Kindiki ,Waihikas are already at it ,wont be suprised if the become governors elect come 2022.

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Re: Mwangi Kiunjuri to launch the Service Party
« Reply #32 on: June 24, 2020, 09:24:19 PM »
We know late Gachagua was tough cookie - not MK doing. MK with his GNU lost Laikipia governor to a nobody - who Kibaki nephew later beat as mere independent. That is what folks recall not the few MCAs who were GNU. GNU had ZERO MPs - despite backing Uhuru. 8) The name "GNU" alone tell you what a joke MK is. He is only big in your books - in just few days since Uhuru axing we already forgot him until today when he return with romantic service party. This pimp service he vow to turn it into a "nachono moof-ment." During Kibaki he was mere Ass Min - obviously a very small fish - while Kimunyas, Kiraitus, Mwirarias, Ndwigas were kitchen cabinet. He need to tackle Kimunya and Ephraim first - and Kibaki nephew - before taking on Uhuru or going national.

If BBI2 die and Uhuru back PK - MK is done. If Uhuru go PM - same outcome.
I will try my best to summarize.

PK is damaged goods. He will need to be rehabilitated like now. Given say a big ministry so people can even remember who he is and what he stands for.  As of now - he is not in the psyche of GEMA. If indeed Uhuru is propping a stooge...he'd go for someone like Corona man Mutahi Kagwe married to Michukos..long before PK. Anyway, let us talk when he is given something that would show Uhuru considers him important to be in gov.Not another Raila kept at arm's length:) and Robina is building castles from here to Timbukut. It's already nearly too late...if he doesn't get in the next reshuffle..he is out...completely forgotten joke..who will probably come to Nairobi for another whipping.

MK - Mwangi Kiunjuri - has proven himself as GEMA defender since the Moi era. He first came to parliament with Ruto in 1997. So this not someone who is new. He became Ass min with Kibaki and then formed his own party that won Nyeri governorship and couple of MCA seats in Laikipia, Nyeri and Kirinyanga.

The genius of MK-Ruto is the 2017 nomination rout. He basically killed all the competition mostly through Kameme Fm. Now we are talking abotu PK :). Give Kiunjuri Kameme and Inooro fm - and he will deliver 2022. I am not sure if Ruto managed to get Kamame fm..but they will need it.

Now talking of Diaspora. RV Kikuyu Diaspora has long identified as one but has always voted with the rest of GEMA. The Kalenjin are the only one who attacks them - sometimes it Maasai - like GEMA diaspora in Narok and Kajiado and Laikipia. Those who get kicked out from Eldoret land in Naivasha and Subukia etc...long before they end up in Muranga and etc. If Kiunjuri-Ruto merges - kikuyu diaspora will under lock and key - and the battle will really be fought in  Central proper. Kiunjuri can do damage in Nyeri-Kirinyanga - and Uhuru is competitive maybe in Muranga - Kiambu will reject him :) the way Baringo don't have time for Gideon Moi. Kiambu have nothing to show for all the 10yrs under Uhuru - why kill for him? It's like Tugen realizing moi was good for nothing scam.


This is in fact the conjecture. At least we will know PK or BBI fate in few days - Ruto "ground" in Mt Kenya we can only know in 2022 if he still run. He might chickem out and back MK-Mdvd ticket. And become mtu yao ya mkono :)
Anyway, all this is conjecture. What is not conjecture - anybody associating with Raila in GEMA is cutting short their career - including Uhuru :)
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Re: Mwangi Kiunjuri to launch the Service Party
« Reply #33 on: June 24, 2020, 09:57:22 PM »
Parliamentary is DOA. I think we will have BBI1.0. Something lame. Uhuru already alluded to it. Changing constitution in the radical way you want is not easy. The whole constitution is built on a presidential system. If you change to parliamentary - you have to re-write nearly the whole of it. Not going to happen.

BBI2 most likely parliamentary - Johos, Oparanyas and Mutuas will be MPs and possible Ministers so they don't need 3rd tier motivation. Nobody seriously demanded 3rd tier in proposals to Haji wazee. Parliamentary has big following in non-GEMA who are fed up with RVGEMA monopoly of power. Ruto is as good as surrendered to Handshake - cause he doesn't want 30% vs Handshake 70 deathknell :) - his crew of Aaron Cheruiyots and Cherargeis openly suggest they will not oppose BBI. They might just bribe Kikuyu with few more MPs like the brazen pampering and romancing going on right now - Mau Mau Road sijui Matiba Road, coffee funds, potato factories, name it. GEMA will not give up all that creme and glory to pay Ruto debt.

Anyway it only few more days - BBI and GNU. If Uhuru want a stooge - he will elevate PK to CS Infra - as they hang embattled Macharia. Raila will just work with Uhuru stooge and has no Waiguru or GEMA plan B.

He will gun for PORK and at last minute enter coalition with Ruto - same TNA v URP kind of arrangement. BBI - how can you support something nobody knows. BBI 1.0 yes that one can come anytime.

The other BBI 2.0 has 5 days to get well-cooked. If it has regional gov - DOA. If it has parliamentary - DOA. everything else can pass.

Is Kiunjuri gunning for PORK or backing Mobutu? What his stand on BBI?

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Re: Mwangi Kiunjuri to launch the Service Party
« Reply #34 on: June 24, 2020, 10:00:17 PM »
Ruto will give GEMA 50%. Don't even go there. MaDVD can get 10% of Ruto shares. It all down to how many votes. MaDVD will be useful for 50% - but Ruto will go toe to toe with Raila (if he survive cancer or covid) - first. MaDVD will take Majority Leader or he can take his vihiga votes wherever. Ruto I think is keen on Bukusu and Wanga and related tribes.
Pundit assuming status quo remains - no BBI - what happens to Mdvd and Luhya in Ruto camp? As he angle for GEMA slice with Kiunjuri.

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Re: Mwangi Kiunjuri to launch the Service Party
« Reply #35 on: June 24, 2020, 10:02:46 PM »
Don't underestimate Kiunjuri. The majority of the GEMA and governors who floored the bitter group owes their seat to Mwangi Kiunjuri.
We know late Gachagua was tough cookie - not MK doing. MK with his GNU lost Laikipia governor to a nobody - who Kibaki nephew later beat as mere independent. That is what folks recall not the few MCAs who were GNU. GNU had ZERO MPs - despite backing Uhuru. 8) The name "GNU" alone tell you what a joke MK is. He is only big in your books - in just few days since Uhuru axing we already forgot him until today when he return with romantic service party. This pimp service he vow to turn it into a "nachono moof-ment." During Kibaki he was mere Ass Min - obviously a very small fish - while Kimunyas, Kiraitus, Mwirarias, Ndwigas were kitchen cabinet. He need to tackle Kimunya and Ephraim first - and Kibaki nephew - before taking on Uhuru or going national.

If BBI2 die and Uhuru back PK - MK is done. If Uhuru go PM - same outcome.
I will try my best to summarize.

PK is damaged goods. He will need to be rehabilitated like now. Given say a big ministry so people can even remember who he is and what he stands for.  As of now - he is not in the psyche of GEMA. If indeed Uhuru is propping a stooge...he'd go for someone like Corona man Mutahi Kagwe married to Michukos..long before PK. Anyway, let us talk when he is given something that would show Uhuru considers him important to be in gov.Not another Raila kept at arm's length:) and Robina is building castles from here to Timbukut. It's already nearly too late...if he doesn't get in the next reshuffle..he is out...completely forgotten joke..who will probably come to Nairobi for another whipping.

MK - Mwangi Kiunjuri - has proven himself as GEMA defender since the Moi era. He first came to parliament with Ruto in 1997. So this not someone who is new. He became Ass min with Kibaki and then formed his own party that won Nyeri governorship and couple of MCA seats in Laikipia, Nyeri and Kirinyanga.

The genius of MK-Ruto is the 2017 nomination rout. He basically killed all the competition mostly through Kameme Fm. Now we are talking abotu PK :). Give Kiunjuri Kameme and Inooro fm - and he will deliver 2022. I am not sure if Ruto managed to get Kamame fm..but they will need it.

Now talking of Diaspora. RV Kikuyu Diaspora has long identified as one but has always voted with the rest of GEMA. The Kalenjin are the only one who attacks them - sometimes it Maasai - like GEMA diaspora in Narok and Kajiado and Laikipia. Those who get kicked out from Eldoret land in Naivasha and Subukia etc...long before they end up in Muranga and etc. If Kiunjuri-Ruto merges - kikuyu diaspora will under lock and key - and the battle will really be fought in  Central proper. Kiunjuri can do damage in Nyeri-Kirinyanga - and Uhuru is competitive maybe in Muranga - Kiambu will reject him :) the way Baringo don't have time for Gideon Moi. Kiambu have nothing to show for all the 10yrs under Uhuru - why kill for him? It's like Tugen realizing moi was good for nothing scam.


This is in fact the conjecture. At least we will know PK or BBI fate in few days - Ruto "ground" in Mt Kenya we can only know in 2022 if he still run. He might chickem out and back MK-Mdvd ticket. And become mtu yao ya mkono :)
Anyway, all this is conjecture. What is not conjecture - anybody associating with Raila in GEMA is cutting short their career - including Uhuru :)

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Re: Mwangi Kiunjuri to launch the Service Party
« Reply #36 on: June 24, 2020, 10:46:20 PM »
GNU was a fluke in Nyeri thru Gachagua the formidable moneybag. Not MK. Kiraitu APK and Ngilu NARC! beat MK briefcase nonsense with 2 or 3 MPs each in Kikuyuland. That is all the way from Meru and Kitui where they did much better with Munyas and Kivutis.

Laikipia MPs 2013-17
Laikipia West - Stephen Wachira Karani - TNA
Laikipia East - Anthony Kimaru - TNA
Laikipia North - Mathew Lempurkel - ODM
Women Rep - Jane Machira Appolos - TNA
Senator - GG Kariuki - TNA

Nyeri MPs 2013-17
Tetu - Ndung’u Gethenji - TNA
Kieni - Kanini Kega - TNA
Mathira - Peter Weru - NARC
Othaya - Mary Wambui - TNA
Mukurweini - Kabando wa Kabando - TNA
Nyeri Town - Esther Murugi - TNA
Women Rep - Priscilla Nyokabi - TNA
Senator - Mutahi Kagwe - TNA

Nyandarua MPs 2013-17
Kinangop - Stephen Kinyanjui - TNA
Kipipiri - Samuel Gichigi - APK
Ol Kalou - David Kiaraho - TNA
Ol Jorok - JM Waiganjo - TNA
Ndaragwa - Waweru Nderitu - TNA
Women Rep - Wanjiku Muhia - TNA
Senator - Muriuki Karue - TNA

Kirinyaga MPs 2013-17
Mwea - Peter Gitau - TNA
Gichugu - Ejidious Barua - TNA
Ndia - Stephen Ngari - TNA
Kirinyaga Central - Joseph Gitari - TNA
Women Rep - Winnie Karimi - TNA
Senator - Daniel Karaba - TNA

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_members_of_the_National_Assembly_of_Kenya_(2013%E2%80%9318)

Don't underestimate Kiunjuri. The majority of the GEMA and governors who floored the bitter group owes their seat to Mwangi Kiunjuri.
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Re: Mwangi Kiunjuri to launch the Service Party
« Reply #37 on: June 24, 2020, 10:56:47 PM »
I see. So Ruto bet on MK GEMA and give up Luhya after false courtship - ala 2013 - and sulking Mdvd will run for PORK this time with Rectangular. Raila with Eugene, Oparanyas - and his own mettle - will bag usual half. Ruto get near zero votes there - naturally you think he will go toe-to-toe with Raila :)

Western is heading to 2013 redux - Mdvd-Eugene become Mdvd-Weta. Raila replace Mdvd-Weta with Eugene-Oparanya who he has been propping recently. Ruto has no discernible strategy without Mdvd-Weta backing.

Mt Kenya we have brutally flogged the horse - let see the coming days - MK new party, BBI, GNU. Lotsa popcorn events.

Ruto will give GEMA 50%. Don't even go there. MaDVD can get 10% of Ruto shares. It all down to how many votes. MaDVD will be useful for 50% - but Ruto will go toe to toe with Raila (if he survive cancer or covid) - first. MaDVD will take Majority Leader or he can take his vihiga votes wherever. Ruto I think is keen on Bukusu and Wanga and related tribes.
Pundit assuming status quo remains - no BBI - what happens to Mdvd and Luhya in Ruto camp? As he angle for GEMA slice with Kiunjuri.
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Re: Mwangi Kiunjuri to launch the Service Party
« Reply #38 on: June 25, 2020, 11:06:11 AM »
Ruto strategy for Western and Ukambani - back me if not don't back my real opponent (Raila or anyone else who will emerge). So Ukambani is working well - Mutua ego is gigantic - easy to get him to run. MaDVD will run again...that I believe is Ruto real intention because Ruto cannot offer MaDVD DPORK. But if Katiba is expanded (very unlikely)..he will get the PM.

If status quo remain.... Western Ruto strategy.

Ruto will cut a lead with Wetangula - and Wangas - and that will give him 1/3 of Luhyas (upper luhyas). MaDVD will get 1/3 (middle luhya). Raila will get 1/3 - (lower Luhyas).

Ukambani is unlikely to back Raila - maybe Ngilu alone but he will be busy battle governorship in Kitui. It likely Kalonzo and Mutua will run. Ruto will try see what Muthama can deliver.

I believe GEMA will this time split...unless Uhuru make peace with Ruto. So Ruto getting 50% is mountain. GEMA elite who don't like Ruto will probably back Kalonzo-Gideon-Waria or whatever combination - maybe Waria - Gideon - or even Raila :) :)

And we may have  round 2 election.

I see. So Ruto bet on MK GEMA and give up Luhya after false courtship - ala 2013 - and sulking Mdvd will run for PORK this time with Rectangular. Raila with Eugene, Oparanyas - and his own mettle - will bag usual half. Ruto get near zero votes there - naturally you think he will go toe-to-toe with Raila :)

Western is heading to 2013 redux - Mdvd-Eugene become Mdvd-Weta. Raila replace Mdvd-Weta with Eugene-Oparanya who he has been propping recently. Ruto has no discernible strategy without Mdvd-Weta backing.

Mt Kenya we have brutally flogged the horse - let see the coming days - MK new party, BBI, GNU. Lotsa popcorn events.

Ruto will give GEMA 50%. Don't even go there. MaDVD can get 10% of Ruto shares. It all down to how many votes. MaDVD will be useful for 50% - but Ruto will go toe to toe with Raila (if he survive cancer or covid) - first. MaDVD will take Majority Leader or he can take his vihiga votes wherever. Ruto I think is keen on Bukusu and Wanga and related tribes.
Pundit assuming status quo remains - no BBI - what happens to Mdvd and Luhya in Ruto camp? As he angle for GEMA slice with Kiunjuri.

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Re: Mwangi Kiunjuri to launch the Service Party
« Reply #39 on: June 25, 2020, 01:12:59 PM »
He was spitting proverbs on Inooro TV yesternight indicating Uhuru should let other campaign as Uhuru started campaigns 2 years before Kibaki's tenure end.

https://www.pulselive.co.ke/news/mike-njenga-unable-to-control-laughter-as-mwangi-kiunjuri-unleashes-kikuyu-proverbs/ynbx3k0
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