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Mobutu must be regretting big supporting Uhuru
« on: June 22, 2020, 12:17:42 PM »
Looks like the gamble has backfired big,Uhuru is basically shafting him from all fronts without a condom.Saddest part is that Mobutu attends the meetings that passes resolutions to dismiss his allies,he must be going through times indeed.Anyway he has consolation in Jubilee Nandi Asili.Luwere mobutu.

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Re: Mobutu must be regretting big supporting Uhuru
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2020, 12:27:30 PM »
Ruto will get his time to return the favor. He is taking the shafting like a man - revealing he is mature enough for PORK. If it was Raila - he would be screaming murder. Ruto is affording to smile.

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Re: Mobutu must be regretting big supporting Uhuru
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2020, 12:34:40 PM »
Ruto will get his time to return the favor. He is taking the shafting like a man - revealing he is mature enough for PORK. If it was Raila - he would be screaming murder. Ruto is affording to smile.

What happened to MAD? This is grovelling not maturity. Mobutu is not the first shameless supplicant - previously we had JJ Kamotho, Mulu Mutisya, Kariuki Chotara, Ndimama, Shariff Nassir, Lotodo - it a long list.
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Re: Mobutu must be regretting big supporting Uhuru
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2020, 12:37:49 PM »
Nipigie simu :) Poor Ruto. MAD is more than assured unless Uhuru is just doing this for two years and going home.  Like Kibaki firing Uhuru due to ICC in 2011. Ruto will use these two years to be campaign. Raila will wait for Uhuru to endorse him. Come August 23rd we will know who won and who lost.
What happened to MAD? This is grovelling not maturity. Mobutu is not the first shameless supplicant - previously we had JJ Kamotho, Mulu Mutisya, Kariuki Chotara, Ndimama, Shariff Nassir, Lotodo - it a long list.

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Re: Mobutu must be regretting big supporting Uhuru
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2020, 12:50:47 PM »
Raila is busy aligning few more stars - he is running circles around Ruto in NFD. Those entire county defections  8) 8) - what else do you consider campaigning - short of rallies.

Nipigie simu :) Poor Ruto. MAD is more than assured unless Uhuru is just doing this for two years and going home.  Like Kibaki firing Uhuru due to ICC in 2011. Ruto will use these two years to be campaign. Raila will wait for Uhuru to endorse him. Come August 23rd we will know who won and who lost.
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Re: Mobutu must be regretting big supporting Uhuru
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2020, 12:58:01 PM »
You're making it sound like Uhuru and Raila are siamese twins. At least Pajero has some brains. Yours is hollow. Heck in all these replacement - not a single ODMer has benefited. Not in the senate. Not in parliament. The same in government. You're getting used..misused with the promise of two birds in the bush.
Raila is busy aligning few more stars - he is running circles around Ruto in NFD. Those entire county defections  8) 8) - what else do you consider campaigning - short of rallies.

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Re: Mobutu must be regretting big supporting Uhuru
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2020, 01:03:25 PM »
ODM did not campaign for Uhuru - this is 2022 coalition. Raila meantime just helps Uhuru hang Mobutu - for Raila's own interest - by merely siding with Jubilee in parliament. Nothing else. Raila Odinga is the principal instigator and beneficiary of this Jubilee mayhem. So easy-peasy it amazing.

You're making it sound like Uhuru and Raila are siamese twins. At least Pajero has some brains. Yours is hollow. Heck if all these replacement - not a single ODMer has benefited. Not in the senate. Not in parliament.
Raila is busy aligning few more stars - he is running circles around Ruto in NFD. Those entire county defections  8) 8) - what else do you consider campaigning - short of rallies.
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Re: Mobutu must be regretting big supporting Uhuru
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2020, 01:43:13 PM »
I don't understand the beneficiary part. How has he benefited? or he is hoping to benefit in 2022? That would be as stupid as you sound. If he was smart like Ruto - he would ask for a downpayment now.
ODM did not campaign for Uhuru - this is 2022 coalition. Raila meantime just helps Uhuru hang Mobutu - for Raila's own interest - by merely siding with Jubilee in parliament. Nothing else. Raila Odinga is the principal instigator and beneficiary of this Jubilee mayhem. So easy-peasy it amazing.

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Re: Mobutu must be regretting big supporting Uhuru
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2020, 01:49:24 PM »
Raila, ODM and their people want
1) end of tyranny ala equity aka parliamentary system - BBI2 coming up smoothly - all noisemakers routed. This is by far the best Handshake payoff
2) 2022 backup - loading easy-peasy - as you invent "ground" and other voodoo. This why GEMA are being fattened before being fed to Baba

ODM had no 50-50 and 2012-32 MOU with Uhuru - that the Ruto you keep praising. Handshake had no power-sharing clause. Naturally the only "benefit" that makes sense to you is looting. By that measure I agree Mobutu is square with Kenyatta.

I don't understand the beneficiary part. How has he benefited? or he is hoping to benefit in 2022? That would be as stupid as you sound. If he was smart like Ruto - he would ask for a downpayment now.
ODM did not campaign for Uhuru - this is 2022 coalition. Raila meantime just helps Uhuru hang Mobutu - for Raila's own interest - by merely siding with Jubilee in parliament. Nothing else. Raila Odinga is the principal instigator and beneficiary of this Jubilee mayhem. So easy-peasy it amazing.
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Re: Mobutu must be regretting big supporting Uhuru
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2020, 02:00:41 PM »
So in short he has not benefited from the spoils of this jubilee civil war but is hoping to benefit when BBI2 comes to fruition. Sounds like Kenya has no shortage of fools - the same fools keep getting used. Now Kikuyu elite is benefiting now and promising you the future :). How naive can you people be? Heck even the little Raila had got in NARA - like the Auditor General - gone! Budget controller gone.

Heck do we even have one Luo CEO in this gov?

Raila, ODM and their people want
1) end of tyranny ala equity aka parliamentary system - BBI2 coming up smoothly - all noisemakers routed. This is by far the best Handshake payoff
2) 2022 backup - loading easy-peasy - as you invent "ground" and other voodoo. This why GEMA are being fattened before being fed to Baba

ODM had no 50-50 and 2012-32 MOU with Uhuru - that the Ruto you keep praising. Handshake had no power-sharing clause. Naturally the only "benefit" that makes sense to you is looting. By that measure I agree Mobutu is square with Kenyatta.

I don't understand the beneficiary part. How has he benefited? or he is hoping to benefit in 2022? That would be as stupid as you sound. If he was smart like Ruto - he would ask for a downpayment now.
ODM did not campaign for Uhuru - this is 2022 coalition. Raila meantime just helps Uhuru hang Mobutu - for Raila's own interest - by merely siding with Jubilee in parliament. Nothing else. Raila Odinga is the principal instigator and beneficiary of this Jubilee mayhem. So easy-peasy it amazing.

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Re: Mobutu must be regretting big supporting Uhuru
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2020, 02:04:31 PM »
Yes. There has been tangible progress. How are you doing in Uhurutopia? Any sign of Uhuru booking Hawaii vacation - to leave Mobutu in charge :) I see all Kihikas and Duales are faithfully attending their own funerals.

So in short he has not benefited from the spoils of this jubilee civil war but is hoping to benefit when BBI2 comes to fruition.
Raila, ODM and their people want
1) end of tyranny ala equity aka parliamentary system - BBI2 coming up smoothly - all noisemakers routed. This is by far the best Handshake payoff
2) 2022 backup - loading easy-peasy - as you invent "ground" and other voodoo. This why GEMA are being fattened before being fed to Baba

ODM had no 50-50 and 2012-32 MOU with Uhuru - that the Ruto you keep praising. Handshake had no power-sharing clause. Naturally the only "benefit" that makes sense to you is looting. By that measure I agree Mobutu is square with Kenyatta.

I don't understand the beneficiary part. How has he benefited? or he is hoping to benefit in 2022? That would be as stupid as you sound. If he was smart like Ruto - he would ask for a downpayment now.
ODM did not campaign for Uhuru - this is 2022 coalition. Raila meantime just helps Uhuru hang Mobutu - for Raila's own interest - by merely siding with Jubilee in parliament. Nothing else. Raila Odinga is the principal instigator and beneficiary of this Jubilee mayhem. So easy-peasy it amazing.
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Re: Mobutu must be regretting big supporting Uhuru
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2020, 02:09:10 PM »
I still think Uhuru will go home. I am not convinced otherwise. We will see soon. I don't think Uhuru can become Duale...in Raila gov...and get kicked out in record time like Duale. That is just nonsense. Neither is anybody looking forward to become DPORK. DPORK in Jubilee 1.0 was great - now it's just VP - to smile and welcome the president. Ruto is luckily he still has vestiges in all corners of gov from Jubilee 1.0

All those BBI positions everyone knows are nonsense. The only position in Kenya is PORK. And that is what Uhuru is telling you through actions.

But here you're waiting to count the number of flower girls who will created by BBI - ostensibly to escort Raila. NAIVETY 101.

Parliamentary is also BS. PM=PORK. Same powerful office.

What tickles my titties is horizontal power transfer - not just money like those idiots are asking - but money and power - devolve education, roads (kerra, kura) and then leave the president to in charge of truly national functions. That is only way to make PORK ceremonial - by making him in charge of national functions - immigration, defence, foreign affairs and inter-county issues like national highways, ports etc. Also iron out the nonsense about Senate and DCI charging governors..and turning them into glorified DCs. Protect devolution.

That is only true power-sharing.

Yes. There has been tangible progress. How are you doing in Uhurutopia? Any sign of Uhuru booking Hawaii vacation - to leave Mobutu in charge :) I see all Kihikas and Duales are faithfully attending their own funerals.

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Re: Mobutu must be regretting big supporting Uhuru
« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2020, 04:20:04 PM »
You must be really worried about your boy Ruto.  Why don't you just watch things unfold my friend instead and stop making play by play commentaries. I feel your pain. My prediction is that your boy will not survive this.


I still think Uhuru will go home. I am not convinced otherwise. We will see soon. I don't think Uhuru can become Duale...in Raila gov...and get kicked out in record time like Duale. That is just nonsense. Neither is anybody looking forward to become DPORK. DPORK in Jubilee 1.0 was great - now it's just VP - to smile and welcome the president. Ruto is luckily he still has vestiges in all corners of gov from Jubilee 1.0

All those BBI positions everyone knows are nonsense. The only position in Kenya is PORK. And that is what Uhuru is telling you through actions.

But here you're waiting to count the number of flower girls who will created by BBI - ostensibly to escort Raila. NAIVETY 101.

Parliamentary is also BS. PM=PORK. Same powerful office.

What tickles my titties is horizontal power transfer - not just money like those idiots are asking - but money and power - devolve education, roads (kerra, kura) and then leave the president to in charge of truly national functions. That is only way to make PORK ceremonial - by making him in charge of national functions - immigration, defence, foreign affairs and inter-county issues like national highways, ports etc. Also iron out the nonsense about Senate and DCI charging governors..and turning them into glorified DCs. Protect devolution.

That is only true power-sharing.

Yes. There has been tangible progress. How are you doing in Uhurutopia? Any sign of Uhuru booking Hawaii vacation - to leave Mobutu in charge :) I see all Kihikas and Duales are faithfully attending their own funerals.
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Re: Mobutu must be regretting big supporting Uhuru
« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2020, 04:23:30 PM »
Tawala tawala tawala tawala tawala Uhuru tawala twa msifu uhuru tawala tawala na baba Ngina tawala tawala

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Re: Mobutu must be regretting big supporting Uhuru
« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2020, 04:24:38 PM »
You must be really worried about your boy Ruto.  Why don't you just watch things unfold my friend instead and stop making play by play commentaries. I feel your pain. My prediction is that your boy will not survive this.


I still think Uhuru will go home. I am not convinced otherwise. We will see soon. I don't think Uhuru can become Duale...in Raila gov...and get kicked out in record time like Duale. That is just nonsense. Neither is anybody looking forward to become DPORK. DPORK in Jubilee 1.0 was great - now it's just VP - to smile and welcome the president. Ruto is luckily he still has vestiges in all corners of gov from Jubilee 1.0

All those BBI positions everyone knows are nonsense. The only position in Kenya is PORK. And that is what Uhuru is telling you through actions.

But here you're waiting to count the number of flower girls who will created by BBI - ostensibly to escort Raila. NAIVETY 101.

Parliamentary is also BS. PM=PORK. Same powerful office.

What tickles my titties is horizontal power transfer - not just money like those idiots are asking - but money and power - devolve education, roads (kerra, kura) and then leave the president to in charge of truly national functions. That is only way to make PORK ceremonial - by making him in charge of national functions - immigration, defence, foreign affairs and inter-county issues like national highways, ports etc. Also iron out the nonsense about Senate and DCI charging governors..and turning them into glorified DCs. Protect devolution.

That is only true power-sharing.

Yes. There has been tangible progress. How are you doing in Uhurutopia? Any sign of Uhuru booking Hawaii vacation - to leave Mobutu in charge :) I see all Kihikas and Duales are faithfully attending their own funerals.

He is so invested un Ruto. He can't sleep. Twitter, Facebook and Nipate looking for signs of life

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Re: Mobutu must be regretting big supporting Uhuru
« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2020, 04:26:37 PM »
So long as Uhuru and GEMA hoi polloi vote baba... they are being fattened as we watch. Raila is on the clock and desperate so he rather appear on portraits and notes for few years before he go kaput. That better than thankless Kiongozi ya Upinzani. It his father dream.

The options remain
1) BBI2 - Raila figurehead PORK + Uhuru Exec PM
2) Status quo or BBI1 - Raila Exec PORK + Uhuru stooge as VP... vs Mobutu-Karua

The rest is makelele - frog noises from powerless Tangatanga Asili midgets. The cow throw a hoof and flush all Kihikas down the sewer.

I still think Uhuru will go home. I am not convinced otherwise. We will see soon. I don't think Uhuru can become Duale...in Raila gov...and get kicked out in record time like Duale. That is just nonsense. Neither is anybody looking forward to become DPORK. DPORK in Jubilee 1.0 was great - now it's just VP - to smile and welcome the president. Ruto is luckily he still has vestiges in all corners of gov from Jubilee 1.0

All those BBI positions everyone knows are nonsense. The only position in Kenya is PORK. And that is what Uhuru is telling you through actions.

But here you're waiting to count the number of flower girls who will created by BBI - ostensibly to escort Raila. NAIVETY 101.

Parliamentary is also BS. PM=PORK. Same powerful office.

What tickles my titties is horizontal power transfer - not just money like those idiots are asking - but money and power - devolve education, roads (kerra, kura) and then leave the president to in charge of truly national functions. That is only way to make PORK ceremonial - by making him in charge of national functions - immigration, defence, foreign affairs and inter-county issues like national highways, ports etc. Also iron out the nonsense about Senate and DCI charging governors..and turning them into glorified DCs. Protect devolution.

That is only true power-sharing.
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Re: Mobutu must be regretting big supporting Uhuru
« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2020, 05:06:48 PM »
There is no option without Uhuru right :). Your man is going nowhere.
So long as Uhuru and GEMA hoi polloi vote baba... they are being fattened as we watch. Raila is on the clock and desperate so he rather appear on portraits and notes for few years before he go kaput. That better than thankless Kiongozi ya Upinzani. It his father dream.

The options remain
1) BBI2 - Raila figurehead PORK + Uhuru Exec PM
2) Status quo or BBI1 - Raila Exec PORK + Uhuru stooge as VP... vs Mobutu-Karua

The rest is makelele - frog noises from powerless Tangatanga Asili midgets. The cow throw a hoof and flush all Kihikas down the sewer.

I still think Uhuru will go home. I am not convinced otherwise. We will see soon. I don't think Uhuru can become Duale...in Raila gov...and get kicked out in record time like Duale. That is just nonsense. Neither is anybody looking forward to become DPORK. DPORK in Jubilee 1.0 was great - now it's just VP - to smile and welcome the president. Ruto is luckily he still has vestiges in all corners of gov from Jubilee 1.0

All those BBI positions everyone knows are nonsense. The only position in Kenya is PORK. And that is what Uhuru is telling you through actions.

But here you're waiting to count the number of flower girls who will created by BBI - ostensibly to escort Raila. NAIVETY 101.

Parliamentary is also BS. PM=PORK. Same powerful office.

What tickles my titties is horizontal power transfer - not just money like those idiots are asking - but money and power - devolve education, roads (kerra, kura) and then leave the president to in charge of truly national functions. That is only way to make PORK ceremonial - by making him in charge of national functions - immigration, defence, foreign affairs and inter-county issues like national highways, ports etc. Also iron out the nonsense about Senate and DCI charging governors..and turning them into glorified DCs. Protect devolution.

That is only true power-sharing.