Can GEMA back Kalonzo as the lesser evil?

[RV Pundit]

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Wiper Party finally deposits a cooperation agreement with Jubilee Party & KANU. Enter Jubilee Coalition. No more Jubilee Party structure. RIP NASA. Jubilee Coalition Presidential Candidate and Running mate, @skmusyoka & @MoiGideon. Kalonzo, " I cannot support @RailaOdinga again" Read more: https://www.tuko.co.ke/363071-dennis-itumbi-claims-jubilee-party-picked-kalonzo-2022-presidential-candidate-gideon-moi-running-mate.html

[RV Pundit]

My take : Kalonzo is more sellable in GEMA than Raila will ever be. If Uhuru was interested in laughable PM position he would work with Kalonzo and Gideon.

Raila is Ruto. You cannot replace the other for the other. Both are strong politicians who cannot be satisfied with being stooges or ceremonial.

[Nowayhaha]

Mt Kenya will only elect a serious anti Raila candidate.
For now the only candidate with these credentials is Ruto.
Kalonzo had endered himself to Mt Kenya prior to 2013 elections but he made  big mistakes after the other joining Raila and the major one was his rallying call Mt Kenya should lie low like and envelope during 2017 campaings.
Further if Kalonzo had a nasty fallout with Raila and has become the ant Raila crusader like in 2008-2012 Maybe they could have identified with him.
Having said that most probably he might ream up with Ruto as PM if Ruto is unable to unify Luhya Nation under Mudavadi/Wentagula axis to support him.

[KenyanPlato]

Mt Kenya will only elect a serious anti Raila candidate.
For now the only candidate with these credentials is Ruto.
Kalonzo had endered himself to Mt Kenya prior to 2013 elections but he made  big mistakes after the other joining Raila and the major one was his rallying call Mt Kenya should lie low like and envelope during 2017 campaings.
Further if Kalonzo had a nasty fallout with Raila and has become the ant Raila crusader like in 2008-2012 Maybe they could have identified with him.
Having said that most probably he might ream up with Ruto as PM if Ruto is unable to unify Luhya Nation under Mudavadi/Wentagula axis to support him.

.you are stuck in raila phobia era ..that era is gone

[Kadudu]

.you are stuck in raila phobia era ..that era is gone

Tell them. GEMA is not for Ruto because they love him or think Raila is the devil incarnate, but they are scared of their own in RV after 2022. That is it and also would like to be back in SH after the Kalejin tenure. It is business and not a love affair.

[RV Pundit]

Yes precisely my reading.
Ruto popularity is because he is the most anti-Raila.
Waiguru trouble together with Uhuru is kissing Raila.
Now if Kalonzo was smart - he would go against Raila - but we know Kalonzo - he is indecisive like Saitoti
And more important - he is greedy - wants both sides - he wants to be there just in case Baba tosha him.
And he also want to be there - just incase Uhuru tosha him.

MaDVD looks far safer bet than him when it comes to looking for looking for "safer" pair of hands.

Mt Kenya will only elect a serious anti Raila candidate.
For now the only candidate with these credentials is Ruto.
Kalonzo had endered himself to Mt Kenya prior to 2013 elections but he made  big mistakes after the other joining Raila and the major one was his rallying call Mt Kenya should lie low like and envelope during 2017 campaings.
Further if Kalonzo had a nasty fallout with Raila and has become the ant Raila crusader like in 2008-2012 Maybe they could have identified with him.
Having said that most probably he might ream up with Ruto as PM if Ruto is unable to unify Luhya Nation under Mudavadi/Wentagula axis to support him.

[RV Pundit]

I am seeing Kanu, Wiper and Jubilee in Jubilee HQ.

[RV Pundit]

Actually Raila is hated in GEMA. GEMA is also fearful of a return to tribal clashes if there was fallout with Ruto wing. They also think Jubilee was working - before the handshake - and are committed to long term partnership - with 50-50.

Tell them. GEMA is not for Ruto because they love him or think Raila is the devil incarnate, but they are scared of their own in RV after 2022. That is it and also would like to be back in SH after the Kalejin tenure. It is business and not a love affair.

[Nowayhaha]

Mt Kenya will only elect a serious anti Raila candidate.
For now the only candidate with these credentials is Ruto.
Kalonzo had endered himself to Mt Kenya prior to 2013 elections but he made  big mistakes after the other joining Raila and the major one was his rallying call Mt Kenya should lie low like and envelope during 2017 campaings.
Further if Kalonzo had a nasty fallout with Raila and has become the ant Raila crusader like in 2008-2012 Maybe they could have identified with him.
Having said that most probably he might ream up with Ruto as PM if Ruto is unable to unify Luhya Nation under Mudavadi/Wentagula axis to support him.

.you are stuck in raila phobia era ..that era is gone

If it is gone Uhuru association with Raila wouldnt have cost him Mt Kenya support.
Keep in mind the younger Mt Kenya generation have associated with Raila fighting them for the last 20 years. A Mt Kenya child born in 2003 only has memories of Raila antagonising Mt Kenya in 2022 that child will be eligible to vote.
Kenyas politics is not that hard , One group is Ant Raila and the other group is Anti Mt Kenya.

Kalonzo was really liked by Mt Kenya prior to 2013 elections because he was able to keep Raila on check. Then he made the fundemental mistake Uhuru has also done . Join hands with Raila. The Mt Kenya support went thin in the air.
Out of all the big players only Ruto has played it well with Mt Kenya remaining is a clinical finish. Odmers are trying ro distract him with all manner of schemes and traps but with nill success. Come 2022 they will say they were rigged again where as its simple as abcd.

[RV Pundit]

Kalonzo on his cooperation and Jubilee
https://www.nation.co.ke/kenya/news/politics/wiper-party-inks-deal-with-jubilee--731462

[Njuri Ncheke]

Kalonzo a happy go lucky chap, he is not a divisive figure but would raira accept him to be the flag bearer after him baba has done all the donkey work? Baba will be shafted by Uhuru,  I actually see Raira turning back and endorsing Ruto after being jilted by wanjohi. We are heading for very uncertain times but their is finally light at end of tunnel for hustler, things are coming to fall into place favorably for him.

[Nefertiti]

Tell them. GEMA is not for Ruto because they love him or think Raila is the devil incarnate, but they are scared of their own in RV after 2022. That is it and also would like to be back in SH after the Kalejin tenure. It is business and not a love affair.

This is hard truth for Ruto people to swallow. They insist Ruto is so trustworthy despite glaring evidence in the contrary. Before that they touted his sterling performance. Now I think they are selling Kalonzo Musyoka. The import of today is that Kalonzo for the moment is out of Ruto's reach. Because he does not want to be in opposition until 2022. If there was to be a compromise of sorts - Mdvd will be edged out by Katikati. He seems to have brought Alfie Mutua Chap Chap ob board.

Now Ruto archrivals in RV - Giddy and Isaac - are in the kitchen cabinet. Ruto is the examplar KYM who build parties then rivals take over. All that Jubilee donkey work is down the drain. URP is largely intact as we see in parliament. He is Raila NDP level - 1997 - of a tribal party - with Kalonzo - attempts to go national have flopped.

[Nowayhaha]

Tell them. GEMA is not for Ruto because they love him or think Raila is the devil incarnate, but they are scared of their own in RV after 2022. That is it and also would like to be back in SH after the Kalejin tenure. It is business and not a love affair.

This is hard truth for Ruto people to swallow. They insist Ruto is so trustworthy despite glaring evidence in the contrary. Before that they touted his sterling performance. Now I think they are selling Kalonzo Musyoka. The import of today is that Kalonzo for the moment is out of Ruto's reach. Because he does not want to be in opposition until 2022. If there was to be a compromise of sorts - Mdvd will be edged out by Katikati. He seems to have brought Alfie Mutua Chap Chap ob board.

Now Ruto archrivals in RV - Giddy and Isaac - are in the kitchen cabinet. Ruto is the examplar KYM who build parties then rivals take over. All that Jubilee donkey work is down the drain. URP is largely intact as we see in parliament. He is Raila NDP level - 1997 - of a tribal party - with Kalonzo - attempts to go national have flopped.

Even if you were to go lets use Mt Kenya& Diaspora Senators as example to show case Rutos pupularity do you know all except Muranga Nyandarua and Nyeri  Senotors voted for the Pleliminary option. Kiambu Senator Wamatangi was M.I.A. 
Bottom line Gema is Ruto for one simple reason he is the face they can relate to as fighting Raila  for the last 15 years .If lets say tomorrow he joins hands with Raila they will desert him the same way they did Uhuru.

[RV Pundit]

But Ruto has progressed every 5yrs - because politics is not just boardroom - but out there on the grounds. Kalonzo, Gideon, Isaac and maDVD have no ground game. If Uhuru is looking for a stooge - he found them.

Anyway, this now is the game of who is the most desperate. Kalonzo has overtaken Raila and signed into Jubilee. That was super fast. ODM are still not sure whether to remain in opposition or join Jubilee.

Anyway, it appears Kalonzo will formally quit NASA and try his luck with Jubilee. The idea is for the weaklings to form a coalition of Kalonzo-Gideon-and GEMA lackey.

Meanwhile, Raila is playing BBI - while we know GEMA elite and laity don't trust him.

The game is on. Uhuru is busy stealing - everyone else is playing 2022.

We could have very interesting 2022 lineup. Raila running with GEMA lackey. Ruto with Gema partner. Kalonzo with Uhuru stooge.

This is hard truth for Ruto people to swallow. They insist Ruto is so trustworthy despite glaring evidence in the contrary. Before that they touted his sterling performance. Now I think they are selling Kalonzo Musyoka. The import of today is that Kalonzo for the moment is out of Ruto's reach. Because he does not want to be in opposition until 2022. If there was to be a compromise of sorts - Mdvd will be edged out by Katikati. He seems to have brought Alfie Mutua Chap Chap ob board.

Now Ruto archrivals in RV - Giddy and Isaac - are in the kitchen cabinet. Ruto is the examplar KYM who build parties then rivals take over. All that Jubilee donkey work is down the drain. URP is largely intact as we see in parliament. He is Raila NDP level - 1997 - of a tribal party - with Kalonzo - attempts to go national have flopped.

[KenyanPlato]

Kalonzo is like a nun that got Pregnant. she can't claim her virginity anyome. Kalonzo betrayal of Raila in 2007/08 closed his political casket. Isaac Ruto will be president before Kalonzo. He is the most overrated idiot in Eastern Province. Kalonzo should just die

[RV Pundit]

He is busy preparing to be your president.

Kalonzo is like a nun that got Pregnant. she can't claim her virginity anyome. Kalonzo betrayal of Raila in 2007/08 closed his political casket. Isaac Ruto will be president before Kalonzo. He is the most overrated idiot in Eastern Province. Kalonzo should just die

[RV Pundit]

Kalonzo cannot help but kick ODM
“Our friends in ODM have decided that they will continue in opposition,” said Kalonzo.

[RV Pundit]

So appears the big plan - get the 3 boys into Jubilee - and then give them Deputy Leadership - and prepare for KANU like 2002 succession.

2 deputy leaders will be Gideon, Kalonzo and GEMA stooge (wa Iria most likely).

Then Uhuru will anoint a successor.

And we will have a Jubilee party candidate for 2022. If they get GEMA backing - this could be the coalition to beat.

Ruto need to get his own party and fight for his share of GEMA.

Raila is hoping to create BBI party out of BBI referendum that may not be contested.

MaDVD is hoping Ruto will step down for him.

[Nowayhaha]

So appears the big plan - get the 3 boys into Jubilee - and then give them Deputy Leadership - and prepare for KANU like 2002 succession.

2 deputy leaders will be Gideon, Kalonzo and GEMA stooge (wa Iria most likely).

Then Uhuru will anoint a successor.

And we will have a Jubilee party candidate for 2022. If they get GEMA backing - this could be the coalition to beat.

Ruto need to get his own party and fight for his share of GEMA.

Raila is hoping to create BBI party out of BBI referendum that may not be contested.

MaDVD is hoping Ruto will step down for him.

You are now being paranoid  ODMs whole game plan is to break up Jubilee. Ruto last option should be shiping out of Jubilee especially at this early age. You presume Ruto will fight out his share of Mt Kenya with who ?
Ruto has already studied the situation and  knows whats the best option.
There will be a referendumn the question remains when and I believe the option he has settled for is to held with 2022 elections while Raila wants it before.
On Kalonzo he is too late if he thinks by forming a coalition witj Jubilee will make him make inroads in Mt Kenya and eclipse Ruto Its a bit too late .However if you look at it critically Wiper snd CCM were part of the original Jubilee (G7)  it now depends on how Ruto can use this opportunity to have the backing of lower Eastern  they are known to have backed Moi during KANU era

[Njuri Ncheke]

Ruto just need concentrate on picking right DP I repeat myself any attempt to pick Aríímítí will end up with him losing mt. Kenya east. We are ready even for baba as DP but not Aríímítí.