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Re: Uhuru reclaims Central through Raila
« Reply #40 on: June 13, 2020, 05:29:25 PM »
Garlic, those ideas are too smart to be executed.Lets wait for BBI 2.0.I don't think Uhuru top priority is to stay in power like Musebeni

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Re: Uhuru reclaims Central through Raila
« Reply #41 on: June 14, 2020, 04:16:54 AM »
Garlic, those ideas are too smart to be executed.Lets wait for BBI 2.0.I don't think Uhuru top priority is to stay in power like Musebeni

I mentioned it in one of these platforms that after 2017 elections Railas only goal was to correct the mistake he made in 2010 by backing the constituion .Its a known fact that Ruto Kalonzo and Uhuru had ganged up as KKK against Raila during Naivasha talks to remove the PM in proposed constituion and expected Raila to oppose it. To their suprise Raila did an about turn  and started supporting it hence KKK became the opposers . It was only after Kibaki managed to whip them actuslly he threatened to fire them that they changed their minds and supported hence the  name watermelon was coined for Uhuru and Kalonzo.

Raila had resigned to the idea that his calling post 2017 was only amending constituion by hook or crook to include a powerful Prime Minister

Uhuru even after handshake was captured even saying there is no need to amend the constituion its commo  knowledge he changed his mimd by realising he will be the first President finishing his two terms without leaving a legacy and in comparison with what Kibaki did including reviving the economy   building infastructure and promulgation of 2010 constituion  .e.t.c. Uhuru has decided to take the opportunity presented by handshake to make structural changes in Constituion atleast he will leave woth something (a legacy) What he doesnt know is that there are good and bad legacies. The direction he has taken he will end up writing a meimor regretting the decisions he took or listened to in his 2nd term.

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Re: Uhuru reclaims Central through Raila
« Reply #42 on: June 14, 2020, 10:51:15 AM »
Uhuru had a solid legacy if he had finished the journey with Jubilee 1.0 foundation.

But somewhere along the line - he dumped Jubilee manifesto - and embraced new ideas Big 4, fighting corruption and handshake (BBI).

Now after COVID-19 - we can confidently predict Big 4 is gone, anti-graft war long-stalled with unhappy judiciary (key component of that fight), and now changing constitution is very dicey.

First spending 20-30B to finance a referendum when COVID-19 has made the economy so gloomy is moronic.

If he is serious that changes in the constitution are not major - then he needs to include it with the 2022 election.

Anyway they have about 15 days to unveil the draft.


I mentioned it in one of these platforms that after 2017 elections Railas only goal was to correct the mistake he made in 2010 by backing the constituion .Its a known fact that Ruto Kalonzo and Uhuru had ganged up as KKK against Raila during Naivasha talks to remove the PM in proposed constituion and expected Raila to oppose it. To their suprise Raila did an about turn  and started supporting it hence KKK became the opposers . It was only after Kibaki managed to whip them actuslly he threatened to fire them that they changed their minds and supported hence the  name watermelon was coined for Uhuru and Kalonzo.

Raila had resigned to the idea that his calling post 2017 was only amending constituion by hook or crook to include a powerful Prime Minister

Uhuru even after handshake was captured even saying there is no need to amend the constituion its commo  knowledge he changed his mimd by realising he will be the first President finishing his two terms without leaving a legacy and in comparison with what Kibaki did including reviving the economy   building infastructure and promulgation of 2010 constituion  .e.t.c. Uhuru has decided to take the opportunity presented by handshake to make structural changes in Constituion atleast he will leave woth something (a legacy) What he doesnt know is that there are good and bad legacies. The direction he has taken he will end up writing a meimor regretting the decisions he took or listened to in his 2nd term.

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Re: Uhuru reclaims Central through Raila
« Reply #43 on: June 14, 2020, 03:19:50 PM »

You don't get it Pundito my brother, the country was falling apart at the seams.  He had good intelligence both local and international that Ouruto was unsustainable.  It was hard for him too to believe in the beginning but the evidence was overwhelming.  If he did not do that handshake, his legacy would have been a civil war.  There is noway half of this counry was going to accept Ruto.  There was not going to be an election in 2022 even if Ouru endorsed Ruto.  Handshake saved this country my friends. Stop cheap arm chair politicking for a change and look at the reality.

Uhuru had a solid legacy if he had finished the journey with Jubilee 1.0 foundation.

But somewhere along the line - he dumped Jubilee manifesto - and embraced new ideas Big 4, fighting corruption and handshake (BBI).

Now after COVID-19 - we can confidently predict Big 4 is gone, anti-graft war long-stalled with unhappy judiciary (key component of that fight), and now changing constitution is very dicey.

First spending 20-30B to finance a referendum when COVID-19 has made the economy so gloomy is moronic.

If he is serious that changes in the constitution are not major - then he needs to include it with the 2022 election.

Anyway they have about 15 days to unveil the draft.


I mentioned it in one of these platforms that after 2017 elections Railas only goal was to correct the mistake he made in 2010 by backing the constituion .Its a known fact that Ruto Kalonzo and Uhuru had ganged up as KKK against Raila during Naivasha talks to remove the PM in proposed constituion and expected Raila to oppose it. To their suprise Raila did an about turn  and started supporting it hence KKK became the opposers . It was only after Kibaki managed to whip them actuslly he threatened to fire them that they changed their minds and supported hence the  name watermelon was coined for Uhuru and Kalonzo.

Raila had resigned to the idea that his calling post 2017 was only amending constituion by hook or crook to include a powerful Prime Minister

Uhuru even after handshake was captured even saying there is no need to amend the constituion its commo  knowledge he changed his mimd by realising he will be the first President finishing his two terms without leaving a legacy and in comparison with what Kibaki did including reviving the economy   building infastructure and promulgation of 2010 constituion  .e.t.c. Uhuru has decided to take the opportunity presented by handshake to make structural changes in Constituion atleast he will leave woth something (a legacy) What he doesnt know is that there are good and bad legacies. The direction he has taken he will end up writing a meimor regretting the decisions he took or listened to in his 2nd term.
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Re: Uhuru reclaims Central through Raila
« Reply #44 on: June 14, 2020, 05:25:17 PM »

You don't get it Pundito my brother, the country was falling apart at the seams.  He had good intelligence both local and international that Ouruto was unsustainable.  It was hard for him too to believe in the beginning but the evidence was overwhelming.  If he did not do that handshake, his legacy would have been a civil war.  There is noway half of this counry was going to accept Ruto.  There was not going to be an election in 2022 even if Ouru endorsed Ruto.  Handshake saved this country my friends. Stop cheap arm chair politicking for a change and look at the reality.

Uhuru had a solid legacy if he had finished the journey with Jubilee 1.0 foundation.

But somewhere along the line - he dumped Jubilee manifesto - and embraced new ideas Big 4, fighting corruption and handshake (BBI).

Now after COVID-19 - we can confidently predict Big 4 is gone, anti-graft war long-stalled with unhappy judiciary (key component of that fight), and now changing constitution is very dicey.

First spending 20-30B to finance a referendum when COVID-19 has made the economy so gloomy is moronic.

If he is serious that changes in the constitution are not major - then he needs to include it with the 2022 election.

Anyway they have about 15 days to unveil the draft.


I mentioned it in one of these platforms that after 2017 elections Railas only goal was to correct the mistake he made in 2010 by backing the constituion .Its a known fact that Ruto Kalonzo and Uhuru had ganged up as KKK against Raila during Naivasha talks to remove the PM in proposed constituion and expected Raila to oppose it. To their suprise Raila did an about turn  and started supporting it hence KKK became the opposers . It was only after Kibaki managed to whip them actuslly he threatened to fire them that they changed their minds and supported hence the  name watermelon was coined for Uhuru and Kalonzo.

Raila had resigned to the idea that his calling post 2017 was only amending constituion by hook or crook to include a powerful Prime Minister

Uhuru even after handshake was captured even saying there is no need to amend the constituion its commo  knowledge he changed his mimd by realising he will be the first President finishing his two terms without leaving a legacy and in comparison with what Kibaki did including reviving the economy   building infastructure and promulgation of 2010 constituion  .e.t.c. Uhuru has decided to take the opportunity presented by handshake to make structural changes in Constituion atleast he will leave woth something (a legacy) What he doesnt know is that there are good and bad legacies. The direction he has taken he will end up writing a meimor regretting the decisions he took or listened to in his 2nd term.

He is still stuck at MOAS. That ship sailed. in politics it is about interests. The west and GEMA interests are for a united Kenya. There is no two ways about it. Since there cann't be credible elections for PORK in Kenya the two groups have settled on a negotiated power sharing. It is in this backdrop that Ruto had to be dropped.

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Re: Uhuru reclaims Central through Raila
« Reply #45 on: June 14, 2020, 06:05:59 PM »
You cannot unite Kenya by goading kalenjin and kikuyu war.This has potential of creating a million idps in a day.That is why ambassador from Western countries are always at Ruto office.They saw it all in 2007 when Ruto was young man.You want to provoke a war then cry icc like it will bring back lives and properties lost.Kikuyus have told Uhuru to jump into lake Victoria alone..they are aware that consequences of betraying Ruto would be so long lasting they will lose rift valley

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Re: Uhuru reclaims Central through Raila
« Reply #46 on: June 14, 2020, 06:11:16 PM »
You cannot unite Kenya by goading kalenjin and kikuyu war.This has potential of creating a million idps in a day.That is why ambassador from Western countries are always at Ruto office

They are there to feel him out. I really pity you guys. By the way all Kikuyus in RV are pro ruto on basis of avoiding eviction. it will be sad for them to be victimized after they support Ruto

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Re: Uhuru reclaims Central through Raila
« Reply #47 on: June 14, 2020, 06:14:37 PM »
You cannot unite Kenya by goading kalenjin and kikuyu war.This has potential of creating a million idps in a day.That is why ambassador from Western countries are always at Ruto office

They are there to feel him out. I really pity you guys. By the way all Kikuyus in RV are pro ruto on basis of avoiding eviction. it will be sad for them to be victimized after they support Ruto
And kalenjin are stupid..they allow you to live in their land. And Ruto after staying so loyal to be abused.Kalenjjn are a volcano.. you might see an useless mountain but be careful.The day they erupt in few hours you would be claiming they are trained in north Korea or isreal.Kalenjin now have a million youths..be very afraid.Kalenjim are capable of the worst atrocities..kuambaa was bad but next generation may do worse

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Re: Uhuru reclaims Central through Raila
« Reply #48 on: June 14, 2020, 06:19:39 PM »
You cannot unite Kenya by goading kalenjin and kikuyu war.This has potential of creating a million idps in a day.That is why ambassador from Western countries are always at Ruto office

They are there to feel him out. I really pity you guys. By the way all Kikuyus in RV are pro ruto on basis of avoiding eviction. it will be sad for them to be victimized after they support Ruto
And kalenjin are stupid..they allow you to live in their land. And Ruto after staying so loyal to be abused.Kalenjjn are a volcano.. you might see an useless mountain but be careful.The day they erupt in few hours you would be claiming they are trained in north Korea or isreal.Kalenjin now have a million youths..be very afraid

How is RV your land? How so? How comes you never been able to evict the multinationals that have all the prime land? The battle against Kales will have to be fought one and it cannot be delayed for ever. May be making Macbangi a PM may be of use in this war. if anything the incentive to kick out kikuyus from land would be better than Ruto winning
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Re: Uhuru reclaims Central through Raila
« Reply #49 on: June 14, 2020, 06:24:02 PM »
You cannot unite Kenya by goading kalenjin and kikuyu war.This has potential of creating a million idps in a day.That is why ambassador from Western countries are always at Ruto office

They are there to feel him out. I really pity you guys. By the way all Kikuyus in RV are pro ruto on basis of avoiding eviction. it will be sad for them to be victimized after they support Ruto
And kalenjin are stupid..they allow you to live in their land. And Ruto after staying so loyal to be abused.Kalenjjn are a volcano.. you might see an useless mountain but be careful.The day they erupt in few hours you would be claiming they are trained in north Korea or isreal.Kalenjin now have a million youths..be very afraid

How is RV your land? How so? How comes you never been able to evict the multinationals that have all the prime land? The battle against Kales will have to be fought one and it cannot be delayed for ever. May be making Macbangi a PM may be of use in this war. if anything the incentive to kick out kikuyus from land would be better than Ruto winning
Ask any kisii if they have an inch of land in kipsigis or maasai land..the best they did was nyachae farm in nakuru..which they lost.. And are in slums.kalenjin are dynamo.. prepare to host a million of your diaspora.Kisiis are angry and defeated..you will join them if you're not careful
.Be happy that your own are in rv..dont start.. because the day the war cry is sounded.. everything changes in a newyork minute.I will be required to cook food for the warriors and keep my mouth shut shut..even elders shut up because kalenjin warriors run the show..

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Re: Uhuru reclaims Central through Raila
« Reply #50 on: June 14, 2020, 06:32:57 PM »
You cannot unite Kenya by goading kalenjin and kikuyu war.This has potential of creating a million idps in a day.That is why ambassador from Western countries are always at Ruto office

They are there to feel him out. I really pity you guys. By the way all Kikuyus in RV are pro ruto on basis of avoiding eviction. it will be sad for them to be victimized after they support Ruto
And kalenjin are stupid..they allow you to live in their land. And Ruto after staying so loyal to be abused.Kalenjjn are a volcano.. you might see an useless mountain but be careful.The day they erupt in few hours you would be claiming they are trained in north Korea or isreal.Kalenjin now have a million youths..be very afraid.Kalenjim are capable of the worst atrocities..kuambaa was bad but next generation may do worse

You might need to slow down on the threats . They have never won hearts and minds of the electorate . Mt Kenya feel betrayed by Uhuru more than any other part of Kenya . Uhuru was voted in on the basis of an anti Raila Euphoria  . ODM know it and the so called BBI/Handshake was a ploy to pit Ruto against Mt Kenya , luckily Ruto can seen through the treachery and has not fallen for the trap - If he and his toy soldiers were already spitting fire like you are doing he would have already lost the Mt Kenya voting Block .
The common enemy of Rift Valley and Mt Kenya was, is and still remains Raila and Through Ruto He will be defeated come  2022 .

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Re: Uhuru reclaims Central through Raila
« Reply #51 on: June 14, 2020, 06:43:58 PM »
You cannot unite Kenya by goading kalenjin and kikuyu war.This has potential of creating a million idps in a day.That is why ambassador from Western countries are always at Ruto office

They are there to feel him out. I really pity you guys. By the way all Kikuyus in RV are pro ruto on basis of avoiding eviction. it will be sad for them to be victimized after they support Ruto
And kalenjin are stupid..they allow you to live in their land. And Ruto after staying so loyal to be abused.Kalenjjn are a volcano.. you might see an useless mountain but be careful.The day they erupt in few hours you would be claiming they are trained in north Korea or isreal.Kalenjin now have a million youths..be very afraid.Kalenjim are capable of the worst atrocities..kuambaa was bad but next generation may do worse

You might need to slow down on the threats . They have never won hearts and minds of the electorate . Mt Kenya feel betrayed by Uhuru more than any other part of Kenya . Uhuru was voted in on the basis of an anti Raila Euphoria  . ODM know it and the so called BBI/Handshake was a ploy to pit Ruto against Mt Kenya , luckily Ruto can seen through the treachery and has not fallen for the trap - If he and his toy soldiers were already spitting fire like you are doing he would have already lost the Mt Kenya voting Block .
The common enemy of Rift Valley and Mt Kenya was, is and still remains Raila and Through Ruto He will be defeated come  2022 .

This is not about Peasants.. This about rich and elites.

Peasants will wait for direction and they will take the direction that is decided for them

GEMA oligarchs are playing their cards through Uhuru

Western Alliance are playing theirs through Raila, Mudavadi

Kamba thru Kalonzo

Coast thru Joho

One thing for sure is that Kalenjins want their land back and they will get it one way of the other.. GEMA oligarchs can allow. I think it will be in the long term interests of Kikuyu oligarchs to let all Kikuyus in RV relocate to Central.. We can urbanize and industrialize quickly using this dispossessed labor. By t.. We he way few rich Kikuyus reinvest in RV enclaves that kalenjins are majority so the loss of 2007 wont be likely repeated ..the kikuyu peasant will return to RV during peacetime to extract and runaway during elections


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Re: Uhuru reclaims Central through Raila
« Reply #52 on: June 14, 2020, 06:45:26 PM »
You cannot unite Kenya by goading kalenjin and kikuyu war.This has potential of creating a million idps in a day.That is why ambassador from Western countries are always at Ruto office

They are there to feel him out. I really pity you guys. By the way all Kikuyus in RV are pro ruto on basis of avoiding eviction. it will be sad for them to be victimized after they support Ruto
And kalenjin are stupid..they allow you to live in their land. And Ruto after staying so loyal to be abused.Kalenjjn are a volcano.. you might see an useless mountain but be careful.The day they erupt in few hours you would be claiming they are trained in north Korea or isreal.Kalenjin now have a million youths..be very afraid.Kalenjim are capable of the worst atrocities..kuambaa was bad but next generation may do worse

You might need to slow down on the threats . They have never won hearts and minds of the electorate . Mt Kenya feel betrayed by Uhuru more than any other part of Kenya . Uhuru was voted in on the basis of an anti Raila Euphoria  . ODM know it and the so called BBI/Handshake was a ploy to pit Ruto against Mt Kenya , luckily Ruto can seen through the treachery and has not fallen for the trap - If he and his toy soldiers were already spitting fire like you are doing he would have already lost the Mt Kenya voting Block .
The common enemy of Rift Valley and Mt Kenya was, is and still remains Raila and Through Ruto He will be defeated come  2022 .
I  am political pundit.Why would you think.i do threats.I am helping you understand all scenarios.My own kids are half gema

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Re: Uhuru reclaims Central through Raila
« Reply #53 on: June 14, 2020, 06:52:53 PM »
You cannot unite Kenya by goading kalenjin and kikuyu war.This has potential of creating a million idps in a day.That is why ambassador from Western countries are always at Ruto office

They are there to feel him out. I really pity you guys. By the way all Kikuyus in RV are pro ruto on basis of avoiding eviction. it will be sad for them to be victimized after they support Ruto
And kalenjin are stupid..they allow you to live in their land. And Ruto after staying so loyal to be abused.Kalenjjn are a volcano.. you might see an useless mountain but be careful.The day they erupt in few hours you would be claiming they are trained in north Korea or isreal.Kalenjin now have a million youths..be very afraid.Kalenjim are capable of the worst atrocities..kuambaa was bad but next generation may do worse

You might need to slow down on the threats . They have never won hearts and minds of the electorate . Mt Kenya feel betrayed by Uhuru more than any other part of Kenya . Uhuru was voted in on the basis of an anti Raila Euphoria  . ODM know it and the so called BBI/Handshake was a ploy to pit Ruto against Mt Kenya , luckily Ruto can seen through the treachery and has not fallen for the trap - If he and his toy soldiers were already spitting fire like you are doing he would have already lost the Mt Kenya voting Block .
The common enemy of Rift Valley and Mt Kenya was, is and still remains Raila and Through Ruto He will be defeated come  2022 .

This is not about Peasants.. This about rich and elites.

Peasants will wait for direction and they will take the direction that is decided for them

GEMA oligarchs are playing their cards through Uhuru

Western Alliance are playing theirs through Raila, Mudavadi

Kamba thru Kalonzo

Coast thru Joho

One thing for sure is that Kalenjins want their land back and they will get it one way of the other.. GEMA oligarchs can allow. I think it will be in the long term interests of Kikuyu oligarchs to let all Kikuyus in RV relocate to Central.. We can urbanize and industrialize quickly using this dispossessed labor. By t.. We he way few rich Kikuyus reinvest in RV enclaves that kalenjins are majority so the loss of 2007 wont be likely repeated ..the kikuyu peasant will return to RV during peacetime to extract and runaway during elections

Unlike Nyanza where Railas family controls the masses .In Mt Kenya thats not the case - Take for example 92 Elections the Mt Kenya Oligarx  were vouching for Kibaki only for the masses to vote for Matiba , In 2002 The Mt Kenya Oligarx were vauching for Uhuru only for the masses to vote Kibaki and in 2013 The oilgarx were vauching for Mudavadi only for the masses to vote for Uhuru. From this example you can clearly see on both sides when the oligarx sponsored Kibaki and Uhuru  the Mt Kenya masses voted for a different candidate  . In the occasion when the masses voted for them it was not because Mt Kenya masses had an agenda in 2002 to defeat Moi and anybody who had Mois support and and in 2013  To ensure Raila doesnt get power - On the last bit the mission is still on .


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Re: Uhuru reclaims Central through Raila
« Reply #54 on: June 14, 2020, 06:56:54 PM »
You cannot unite Kenya by goading kalenjin and kikuyu war.This has potential of creating a million idps in a day.That is why ambassador from Western countries are always at Ruto office

They are there to feel him out. I really pity you guys. By the way all Kikuyus in RV are pro ruto on basis of avoiding eviction. it will be sad for them to be victimized after they support Ruto
And kalenjin are stupid..they allow you to live in their land. And Ruto after staying so loyal to be abused.Kalenjjn are a volcano.. you might see an useless mountain but be careful.The day they erupt in few hours you would be claiming they are trained in north Korea or isreal.Kalenjin now have a million youths..be very afraid.Kalenjim are capable of the worst atrocities..kuambaa was bad but next generation may do worse

You might need to slow down on the threats . They have never won hearts and minds of the electorate . Mt Kenya feel betrayed by Uhuru more than any other part of Kenya . Uhuru was voted in on the basis of an anti Raila Euphoria  . ODM know it and the so called BBI/Handshake was a ploy to pit Ruto against Mt Kenya , luckily Ruto can seen through the treachery and has not fallen for the trap - If he and his toy soldiers were already spitting fire like you are doing he would have already lost the Mt Kenya voting Block .
The common enemy of Rift Valley and Mt Kenya was, is and still remains Raila and Through Ruto He will be defeated come  2022 .
I  am political pundit.Why would you think.i do threats.I am helping you understand all scenarios.My own kids are half gema

Its evident you are getting emotional over Uhurus support of BBI/Handshake - Relax - In 2010 during Referendum campaigns  Ruto and Uhuru parted ways albeit for a short period . By Ruto opposing the constitution and making him the supreme leader of Riftvalley made Jubilee win 2013 elections and now by Uhuru making the blunders he is doing  has made Mt Kenya identify with Ruto and he is the President in waiting .

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Re: Uhuru reclaims Central through Raila
« Reply #55 on: June 14, 2020, 06:59:59 PM »
You cannot unite Kenya by goading kalenjin and kikuyu war.This has potential of creating a million idps in a day.That is why ambassador from Western countries are always at Ruto office

They are there to feel him out. I really pity you guys. By the way all Kikuyus in RV are pro ruto on basis of avoiding eviction. it will be sad for them to be victimized after they support Ruto
And kalenjin are stupid..they allow you to live in their land. And Ruto after staying so loyal to be abused.Kalenjjn are a volcano.. you might see an useless mountain but be careful.The day they erupt in few hours you would be claiming they are trained in north Korea or isreal.Kalenjin now have a million youths..be very afraid.Kalenjim are capable of the worst atrocities..kuambaa was bad but next generation may do worse

You might need to slow down on the threats . They have never won hearts and minds of the electorate . Mt Kenya feel betrayed by Uhuru more than any other part of Kenya . Uhuru was voted in on the basis of an anti Raila Euphoria  . ODM know it and the so called BBI/Handshake was a ploy to pit Ruto against Mt Kenya , luckily Ruto can seen through the treachery and has not fallen for the trap - If he and his toy soldiers were already spitting fire like you are doing he would have already lost the Mt Kenya voting Block .
The common enemy of Rift Valley and Mt Kenya was, is and still remains Raila and Through Ruto He will be defeated come  2022 .

This is not about Peasants.. This about rich and elites.

Peasants will wait for direction and they will take the direction that is decided for them

GEMA oligarchs are playing their cards through Uhuru

Western Alliance are playing theirs through Raila, Mudavadi

Kamba thru Kalonzo

Coast thru Joho

One thing for sure is that Kalenjins want their land back and they will get it one way of the other.. GEMA oligarchs can allow. I think it will be in the long term interests of Kikuyu oligarchs to let all Kikuyus in RV relocate to Central.. We can urbanize and industrialize quickly using this dispossessed labor. By t.. We he way few rich Kikuyus reinvest in RV enclaves that kalenjins are majority so the loss of 2007 wont be likely repeated ..the kikuyu peasant will return to RV during peacetime to extract and runaway during elections

Unlike Nyanza where Railas family controls the masses .In Mt Kenya thats not the case - Take for example 92 Elections the Mt Kenya Oligarx  were vouching for Kibaki only for the masses to vote for Matiba , In 2002 The Mt Kenya Oligarx were vauching for Uhuru only for the masses to vote Kibaki and in 2013 The oilgarx were vauching for Mudavadi only for the masses to vote for Uhuru. From this example you can clearly see on both sides when the oligarx sponsored Kibaki and Uhuru  the Mt Kenya masses voted for a different candidate  . In the occasion when the masses voted for them it was not because Mt Kenya masses had an agenda in 2002 to defeat Moi and anybody who had Mois support and and in 2013  To ensure Raila doesnt get power - On the last bit the mission is still on .

Lol - Matiba was an Oligarch. He had to Marry Musa Gitau Daughter to be accepted in Kiambu Oligarchy. He actually Literally Got married by Musa Gitau, he left his birth place and moved to Kiambu..

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Re: Uhuru reclaims Central through Raila
« Reply #56 on: June 14, 2020, 07:15:25 PM »
Rift Valley is a shithole a powderkeg i wont even waste a second to think if i was given even freeland. Kikuyus honestly messed up by settling there. But punda even kalenjins were foolish to let that happen. You can't do muchnow. You would have done the following but too late
https://www.google.com/search?q=being+kikuyu+in+meru&oq=being+kikuyu+in+meru
Kikuyus used to boast how kalenjins, masaai are dumb people that's how they bought land but mjinga akielevuka....

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Re: Uhuru reclaims Central through Raila
« Reply #57 on: June 14, 2020, 07:28:53 PM »
You cannot unite Kenya by goading kalenjin and kikuyu war.This has potential of creating a million idps in a day.That is why ambassador from Western countries are always at Ruto office

They are there to feel him out. I really pity you guys. By the way all Kikuyus in RV are pro ruto on basis of avoiding eviction. it will be sad for them to be victimized after they support Ruto
And kalenjin are stupid..they allow you to live in their land. And Ruto after staying so loyal to be abused.Kalenjjn are a volcano.. you might see an useless mountain but be careful.The day they erupt in few hours you would be claiming they are trained in north Korea or isreal.Kalenjin now have a million youths..be very afraid.Kalenjim are capable of the worst atrocities..kuambaa was bad but next generation may do worse

You might need to slow down on the threats . They have never won hearts and minds of the electorate . Mt Kenya feel betrayed by Uhuru more than any other part of Kenya . Uhuru was voted in on the basis of an anti Raila Euphoria  . ODM know it and the so called BBI/Handshake was a ploy to pit Ruto against Mt Kenya , luckily Ruto can seen through the treachery and has not fallen for the trap - If he and his toy soldiers were already spitting fire like you are doing he would have already lost the Mt Kenya voting Block .
The common enemy of Rift Valley and Mt Kenya was, is and still remains Raila and Through Ruto He will be defeated come  2022 .
I  am political pundit.Why would you think.i do threats.I am helping you understand all scenarios.My own kids are half gema

Its evident you are getting emotional over Uhurus support of BBI/Handshake - Relax - In 2010 during Referendum campaigns  Ruto and Uhuru parted ways albeit for a short period . By Ruto opposing the constitution and making him the supreme leader of Riftvalley made Jubilee win 2013 elections and now by Uhuru making the blunders he is doing  has made Mt Kenya identify with Ruto and he is the President in waiting .
You clearly don't know me

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Re: Uhuru reclaims Central through Raila
« Reply #58 on: June 14, 2020, 07:31:23 PM »
You cannot unite Kenya by goading kalenjin and kikuyu war.This has potential of creating a million idps in a day.That is why ambassador from Western countries are always at Ruto office

They are there to feel him out. I really pity you guys. By the way all Kikuyus in RV are pro ruto on basis of avoiding eviction. it will be sad for them to be victimized after they support Ruto
And kalenjin are stupid..they allow you to live in their land. And Ruto after staying so loyal to be abused.Kalenjjn are a volcano.. you might see an useless mountain but be careful.The day they erupt in few hours you would be claiming they are trained in north Korea or isreal.Kalenjin now have a million youths..be very afraid.Kalenjim are capable of the worst atrocities..kuambaa was bad but next generation may do worse

You might need to slow down on the threats . They have never won hearts and minds of the electorate . Mt Kenya feel betrayed by Uhuru more than any other part of Kenya . Uhuru was voted in on the basis of an anti Raila Euphoria  . ODM know it and the so called BBI/Handshake was a ploy to pit Ruto against Mt Kenya , luckily Ruto can seen through the treachery and has not fallen for the trap - If he and his toy soldiers were already spitting fire like you are doing he would have already lost the Mt Kenya voting Block .
The common enemy of Rift Valley and Mt Kenya was, is and still remains Raila and Through Ruto He will be defeated come  2022 .

This is not about Peasants.. This about rich and elites.

Peasants will wait for direction and they will take the direction that is decided for them

GEMA oligarchs are playing their cards through Uhuru

Western Alliance are playing theirs through Raila, Mudavadi

Kamba thru Kalonzo

Coast thru Joho

One thing for sure is that Kalenjins want their land back and they will get it one way of the other.. GEMA oligarchs can allow. I think it will be in the long term interests of Kikuyu oligarchs to let all Kikuyus in RV relocate to Central.. We can urbanize and industrialize quickly using this dispossessed labor. By t.. We he way few rich Kikuyus reinvest in RV enclaves that kalenjins are majority so the loss of 2007 wont be likely repeated ..the kikuyu peasant will return to RV during peacetime to extract and runaway during elections

Unlike Nyanza where Railas family controls the masses .In Mt Kenya thats not the case - Take for example 92 Elections the Mt Kenya Oligarx  were vouching for Kibaki only for the masses to vote for Matiba , In 2002 The Mt Kenya Oligarx were vauching for Uhuru only for the masses to vote Kibaki and in 2013 The oilgarx were vauching for Mudavadi only for the masses to vote for Uhuru. From this example you can clearly see on both sides when the oligarx sponsored Kibaki and Uhuru  the Mt Kenya masses voted for a different candidate  . In the occasion when the masses voted for them it was not because Mt Kenya masses had an agenda in 2002 to defeat Moi and anybody who had Mois support and and in 2013  To ensure Raila doesnt get power - On the last bit the mission is still on .

Lol - Matiba was an Oligarch. He had to Marry Musa Gitau Daughter to be accepted in Kiambu Oligarchy. He actually Literally Got married by Musa Gitau, he left his birth place and moved to Kiambu..
we were taught by Dr Getao..that biatch was nasty..the grand daughter of Musa gitau..her father was Alexander gitau the last Kenyatta statehouse comptroller.She acted like she was white or something.She was extremely smart.Now she is ict authority chair.She taught us automata but she is pretty nasty if you dare mess with her.The matiba were close to them

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