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Uhuru vs Ruto: Who has the numbers in Parliament?
« on: May 11, 2020, 08:44:09 AM »
This is closer to the truth contra to Tangatanga spin and propaganda


https://www.nation.co.ke/news/politics/Battle-for-Jubilee-soul--Uhuru-and-Ruto-numbers/1064-5547570-tvl0p1/index.html
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Re: Uhuru vs Ruto: Who has the numbers in Parliament?
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2020, 09:55:09 AM »
Look like we are in for drama. Ruto senators boycott. Uhuru has seven senators to make party resolution. I think next will be large scale intimidation, bribery and even assinitation. Uhuru when scorned is very dangerous. He is used to getting everything he wants all his life.

Only Mama Ngina can save him now.

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Re: Uhuru vs Ruto: Who has the numbers in Parliament?
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2020, 12:57:47 PM »
Ruto when scorned is equally dangerous. If Ruto goes MAD it will be golden shower for Raila. He need to suck up to Uhuru and GEMA for now as Ruto throw punches. Basically play mercenary in Jubilee civil war. Until 2022.
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Re: Uhuru vs Ruto: Who has the numbers in Parliament?
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2020, 01:12:04 PM »
Ruto is facing the front-runner gang up. He needs to stick to his plan - and try steady hustler movement - and try to stop the constitution from being ammended and allowing all these guys to gang up.
Ruto when scorned is equally dangerous. If Ruto goes MAD it will be golden shower for Raila. He need to suck up to Uhuru and GEMA for now as Ruto throw punches. Basically play mercenary in Jubilee civil war. Until 2022.

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Re: Uhuru vs Ruto: Who has the numbers in Parliament?
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2020, 01:49:26 PM »
Where are we on matters State House?

I can see Itumbi and Cheruiyot barking
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Re: Uhuru vs Ruto: Who has the numbers in Parliament?
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2020, 01:54:37 PM »
Done. Uhuru claimed he had 20 senators. In any case, Wiper is willing to join and tilt the numbers. Ruto has to cut his losses and start his own party. Jubilee is over.
Where are we on matters State House?

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Re: Uhuru vs Ruto: Who has the numbers in Parliament?
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2020, 01:55:14 PM »
Amending katiba is very hard especially if COVID-19 continues for a few more months. That however does not stop a NARC-like coalition of imaginary positions to be created after winning power in 100 days :) They will beat Ruto easily but fall out soon after. Whoever gets PORK is the only winner.

Ruto is facing the front-runner gang up. He needs to stick to his plan - and try steady hustler movement - and try to stop the constitution from being ammended and allowing all these guys to gang up
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Re: Uhuru vs Ruto: Who has the numbers in Parliament?
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2020, 04:06:22 PM »
Wembe ni ule ule...Uhuru finally take full control of jubilee. All in all I think a government of national unity would be much better than what have. Uhuru has refused to let Corona crisis go to waste. Tawala kenya tawala rais uhuru, wakenya wako nyuma yako baba tumalize safari.

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Re: Uhuru vs Ruto: Who has the numbers in Parliament?
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2020, 04:15:23 PM »
Pundit
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Re: Uhuru vs Ruto: Who has the numbers in Parliament?
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2020, 04:20:21 PM »
Yeah this is bad. He did even put the condom on. The betrayal of Ruto and Jubilee is 'shocking' - always thought Uhuru was a gentleman. But my boy should not lose hope - he is merely 55yrs - he needs to give his best shot and try lead a Jubilee revolution now.
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Re: Uhuru vs Ruto: Who has the numbers in Parliament?
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2020, 04:23:34 PM »
I am glad Ouru is seeing this thing through. Politics of inclusion works much better than politics of disunity and acrimony that be delved since 2013.  Even the hate filled .com died.  That is evidence enough that handshake worked. Ouru should never look back back.  This country called Kenya with all its problems is a much better place without  Ruto running around spewing hate.

Wembe ni ule ule...Uhuru finally take full control of jubilee. All in all I think a government of national unity would be much better than what have. Uhuru has refused to let Corona crisis go to waste. Tawala kenya tawala rais uhuru, wakenya wako nyuma yako baba tumalize safari.
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Re: Uhuru vs Ruto: Who has the numbers in Parliament?
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2020, 04:28:46 PM »
You were just in denial for too long.  The writing was on the wall along time ago. I think Ouru just needed more insurance incase Ruto tried to run ends around him.  Once the military leadership became 100% loyal, he can now make the political changes without losing any sleep.

Yeah this is bad. He did even put the condom on. The betrayal of Ruto and Jubilee is 'shocking' - always thought Uhuru was a gentleman. But my boy should not lose hope - he is merely 55yrs - he needs to give his best shot and try lead a Jubilee revolution now.
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Re: Uhuru vs Ruto: Who has the numbers in Parliament?
« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2020, 04:33:53 PM »
But he is literally breaking the law and cheering it on. And Ruto hands are tied because he is trying to appease GEMA in-laws. But once Ruto also start breaking the law - Raila and Uhuru style - don't come crying.
You were just in denial for too long.  The writing was on the wall along time ago. I think Ouru just needed more insurance incase Ruto tried to run ends around him.  Once the military leadership became 100% loyal, he can now make the political changes without losing any sleep.

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Re: Uhuru vs Ruto: Who has the numbers in Parliament?
« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2020, 05:43:18 PM »
Ruto HAS to match drunkard blow for blow and deliver the knockout punch, any softness Ruto part will be a disaster, Ruto needs to go hard that the government cant function without him. Uburu is a spoilt brat nothing else leave alone he is also a mungiki henchman.

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« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2020, 06:00:51 PM »
He has to measure his punches before GEMA might see it as being disrespectful - so basically he does all boxing and punching behind the camera -  that is only way to make a case against Uhuru betrayal in Jubilee land.
Ruto HAS to match drunkard blow for blow and deliver the knockout punch, any softness Ruto part will be a disaster, Ruto needs to go hard that the government cant function without him. Uburu is a spoilt brat nothing else leave alone he is also a mungiki henchman.

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Re: Uhuru vs Ruto: Who has the numbers in Parliament?
« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2020, 07:32:34 PM »

The saying that those who rule by the sword die by the sword has not been repealed.

But he is literally breaking the law and cheering it on. And Ruto hands are tied because he is trying to appease GEMA in-laws. But once Ruto also start breaking the law - Raila and Uhuru style - don't come crying.
You were just in denial for too long.  The writing was on the wall along time ago. I think Ouru just needed more insurance incase Ruto tried to run ends around him.  Once the military leadership became 100% loyal, he can now make the political changes without losing any sleep.
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Re: Uhuru vs Ruto: Who has the numbers in Parliament?
« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2020, 07:37:56 PM »
I am sure Ouru and his brigade has been doing simulations of all Ruto's possibly moves and they feel they can counter all of them. Lets see if Ruto is suicidal enough to take your advise.

Ruto HAS to match drunkard blow for blow and deliver the knockout punch, any softness Ruto part will be a disaster, Ruto needs to go hard that the government cant function without him. Uburu is a spoilt brat nothing else leave alone he is also a mungiki henchman.
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Re: Uhuru vs Ruto: Who has the numbers in Parliament?
« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2020, 07:41:09 PM »
Jubilee is done.  We are back to tribes. We have seen this movie before.  You used to preach this tribe mantra when it suited you.  Kikuyus are more loyal to their kikuyuness than to Jubilee, and therefore once Jubilee is disbanded, they are back to being kikuyus.


He has to measure his punches before GEMA might see it as being disrespectful - so basically he does all boxing and punching behind the camera -  that is only way to make a case against Uhuru betrayal in Jubilee land.
Ruto HAS to match drunkard blow for blow and deliver the knockout punch, any softness Ruto part will be a disaster, Ruto needs to go hard that the government cant function without him. Uburu is a spoilt brat nothing else leave alone he is also a mungiki henchman.
"I have done my job and I will not change anything dead or a live" Malonza

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Re: Uhuru vs Ruto: Who has the numbers in Parliament?
« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2020, 07:46:36 PM »
The only strategy that would work for Ruto at this point is basically to assassinate Uhuru for high treason and become acting PORK - otherwise a lot more people will suffer.  Uhuru doesn't care anymore and is preparing the ground for the slaughter of a lot more Kenyans....because this kind of recklessness in the middle of COVID-19 is strange.
I am sure Ouru and his brigade has been doing simulations of all Ruto's possibly moves and they feel they can counter all of them. Lets see if Ruto is suicidal enough to take your advise.

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Re: Uhuru vs Ruto: Who has the numbers in Parliament?
« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2020, 07:49:09 PM »
We have a some time to get there - but look very likely we will get there soon. But first GEMA has to accept the new normal.  I hope they don't imagine they can play both Ruto and Raila because that would be the biggest tragedy. So Uhuru still pretty much btw hard place and the rock...he has to kiss Raila or Ruto arse eventually...or he will watch Kenyatta wealth go up in flames...and him in exile (if not in ICC) instead of retiring to Northland city to milk his cows.
Jubilee is done.  We are back to tribes. We have seen this movie before.  You used to preach this tribe mantra when it suited you.  Kikuyus are more loyal to their kikuyuness than to Jubilee, and therefore once Jubilee is disbanded, they are back to being kikuyus.