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Re: Kiunjuri Gives Uhuru Marching Orders
« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2020, 11:48:28 AM »
Kuria cooling his heels with the flees for the weekend. Pundit how does this marry with your Uhurutopia theory?

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Re: Kiunjuri Gives Uhuru Marching Orders
« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2020, 11:59:19 AM »
Jomo Kenyatta succession should teach you a lot that you can use to understand Uhuru Kenyatta succession

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Re: Kiunjuri Gives Uhuru Marching Orders
« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2020, 07:18:13 PM »
Senile bed-ridden Jomo is bad analogy. Moi and Kibaki successions can teach us what happens to entitled VP.
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Re: Kiunjuri Gives Uhuru Marching Orders
« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2020, 09:06:38 PM »
Pundit seem even Eugene has abandoned your boy.  From Kisii BBI crusade. Nor even Madvd and Rectangular don't back him. Kalonzo is in Uhuru box despite NASA breakdown. Now all the 3 Ukambani governors are singing BBI. Samboja and Kingi were Ruto crew hapo zamani za kale. What happened to his boy Mvurya? he is AWOL.

Raila is playing chess - Ruto ndio checkers :) Your boy paraded Kikuyu MPs - pawns - in Nyeri. Raila parades big kahunas from half the country.

Ruto already backed BBI 1.0 they are merely refining it by powerful PM. :D It will be hard to do 180° like Punguza. Ruto merely has Kalenjin and Kikuyu. Yet I wonder how many of these mlolongo Judases can take a bullet for him. From the lineup of defectors and deserters - Waititu, Waiguru, Kimemia, Njuki, Kiraitu - Kuria probably had a chat with Jezebel to secure his freedom tonight. It not a joke to spend a night with fleas and drunkards even for Ruto. Let alone compare himself to matryrs like Rubia or Matiba.

Next in queue is Western. All governors and senators are lined up. Only few Khalwale, Barasa and Waluke will skip. Pwani with parliamentary and devolution - only crazy Jumwa back Ruto.
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Re: Kiunjuri Gives Uhuru Marching Orders
« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2020, 09:39:54 PM »
You're again frothing from both sides of the mouth. Let me help break it down for you.
1) Jubilee party - Ruto has near totality in support. The small matter of Tuju will be dispensed with soon.
2) Jubilee gov - Ruto has is own side including Kiunjuris/Keters (albeit weaken), there are  Jezebel-Kibicho-Matiangi (powerful because they control security & have direct access to Uhuru) and we have moderates like Kinyua.
3) Where is Uhuru? BBI should have told you where Uhuru heart really is but we have the Jezebel-Kibicho working with Raila smarting from their total capitulation.

So what will happen next - politically nobodies/neophytes -Jezebel-Kibicho-Matiangi (Harambee house) will merge with Raila - end results nothing.Ruto with Jubilee political and half gov support will romp home.


Pundit seem even Eugene has abandoned your boy.  From Kisii BBI crusade. Nor even Madvd and Rectangular don't back him. Kalonzo is in Uhuru box despite NASA breakdown. Now all the 3 Ukambani governors are singing BBI. Samboja and Kingi were Ruto crew hapo zamani za kale. What happened to his boy Mvurya? he is AWOL.

Raila is playing chess - Ruto ndio checkers :)

Ruto already backed BBI 1.0 they are merely refining it by powerful PM. :D It will be hard to do 180° like Punguza. Ruto merely has Kalenjin and Kikuyu. Yet I wonder how many of these mlolongo Judases can take a bullet for him. From the lineup of defectors and deserters - Waititu, Waiguru, Kimemia, Njuki, Kiraitu - Kuria probably had a chat with Jezebel to secure his freedom tonight. It not a joke to spend a night with fleas and drunkards even for Ruto. Let alone compare himself to matryrs like Rubia or Matiba.

Next in queue is Western. All governors and senators are lined up. Only few Khalwale, Barasa and Waluke will skip. Pwani with parliamentary and devolution - only Jumwa back Ruto.

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Re: Kiunjuri Gives Uhuru Marching Orders
« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2020, 09:42:20 PM »

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Re: Kiunjuri Gives Uhuru Marching Orders
« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2020, 09:47:15 PM »
Usual Ruto problem of lineup of nobodies. No single governor, senator or CS back Ruto. Mwashetani, Jumwa and Jicho Pevu fool. These featherweights can deliver NOTHING to Ruto. You used to tell us how Raila fear to trust powerful folks like Ruto. Well, it totally opposite now where all big kahuna are in his corner.

Look at Ruto Nyeri parade - all MPs and MCAs. Raila in Kisii - list of who is who. Same as Kibra. Ruto is not even able to court Kalonzo, Madvd or Rectangular despite Raila scorning them. He has lost his midas touch.

As regard coast - where Ruto has bought huge land in Taita Taveta.

Read here https://www.nation.co.ke/news/politics/MPs-rally-behind-Ruto-plan-to-takeover-Coast-region-/1064-5414116-1356cs5z/index.html
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Re: Kiunjuri Gives Uhuru Marching Orders
« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2020, 09:58:32 PM »
Don't take support of scared governors for real support. The ruling on suspending governors once Kibicho boys are sent their way has made every governor pro-gov (Pro-Kibicho) - some like Mike Sonko went as far as prostrating and offering to lead Uhuru third term bid - he is discovering very late what a poor strategy that was. You end up losing both political support and position.

Now smart politicians like most MCas and Mps knows the real BOSS is MWANANCHI - you have to stay near the pulse of the nation.

Then you have governors also facing a term limit - like most of these Uhuru orphans who are fearful of the future - as Uhuru retires.

The clearest indication of where Uhuru heart lies for me was BBI - why would they bring such a Ruto ordered BBI report?

I think Uhuru is playing someone. We are dealing with Uhuru orphans scared of a change of gov and Raila (the usual suspect) trying to string yet another run for PORK - the hard part for them will be agreeing a line up to face Ruto-Kiunjuri.

Usual Ruto problem of lineup of nobodies. No single governor, senator or CS back Ruto. Mwashetani, Jumwa and Jicho Pevu fool. These featherweights can deliver NOTHING to Ruto. You used to tell us how Raila fear to trust powerful folks like Ruto. Well, it totally opposite now where all big kahuna are in his corner.

Look at Ruto Nyeri parade - all MPs and MCAs. Raila in Kisii - list of who is who. Same as Kibra. Ruto is not even able to court Kalonzo, Madvd or Rectangular despite Raila scorning them. He has lost his midas touch. 

Everyone think Raila (and Uhuru) will tosha them while Raila want to be toshad.

As regard coast - where Ruto has bought huge land in Taita Taveta.

Read here https://www.nation.co.ke/news/politics/MPs-rally-behind-Ruto-plan-to-takeover-Coast-region-/1064-5414116-1356cs5z/index.html

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Re: Kiunjuri Gives Uhuru Marching Orders
« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2020, 10:18:51 PM »
Fear of suspension may apply to Waititu or Sonko but not Kalonzo or Madvd or Rectangular. Ruto has failed to net any of these jilted Raila mpangos. Instead he line up Khalwale and Jumwa. Lukewarm fear of Jezebel is Wa Iria or Kiraitu - likes of Waiguru, Kingi or Mutua enthusiastic support is inspired by self-interest. Outgoing governors will angle for MP in parliamentary. What motivate Kamanda the octogenarian to go riot against Ruto except the latter's ill-advised mlolongo? Ruto created serious trouble for himself in Gema.

About Uhuru real or true position - you are right it dependent on self- interest. Who has the best offer? Supreme Leader vs Exec PM? It a no-brainer really. He is mere 57 unlike Jomo (89), Moi (78) or Kibaki (83). The Uhuru succession is different from especially Jomo with only some semblance to Moi and Kibaki. We can buttress this if you want - the circumstances are more ripe for Uhuru to stay than retire.

Don't take support of scared governors for real support. The ruling on suspending governors once Kibicho boys are sent their way has made every governor pro-gov (Pro-Kibicho) - some like Mike Sonko went as far as prostrating and offering to lead Uhuru third term bid - he is discovering very late what a poor strategy that was. You end up losing both political support and position.

Now smart politicians like most MCas and Mps knows the real BOSS is MWANANCHI - you have to stay near the pulse of the nation.

Then you have governors also facing a term limit - like most of these Uhuru orphans who are fearful of the future - as Uhuru retires.

The clearest indication of where Uhuru heart lies for me was BBI - why would they bring such a Ruto ordered BBI report?

I think Uhuru is playing someone. We are dealing with Uhuru orphans scared of a change of gov and Raila (the usual suspect) trying to string yet another run for PORK - the hard part for them will be agreeing a line up to face Ruto-Kiunjuri.
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Re: Kiunjuri Gives Uhuru Marching Orders
« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2020, 10:29:58 PM »
The definitive factor of Raila vs Ruto :  Raila is ready to retire as ceremonial president while offer solid Exec PM. He is on the clock. Ruto is young, greedy and entitled so he offer less than he takes. He get big Mama Ngina cheque, 50-50, then pull mlolongo and demand endorsement. His hubris and nonsense opened the door for Trojan 2.0 - he ruined it for himself.
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Re: Kiunjuri Gives Uhuru Marching Orders
« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2020, 10:59:59 PM »
Why did BBI not recommend your parliamentary thing? When we at least have on table maybe we can listen to you.. otherwise it's not and constitutional changes are not a walk on the park like Mbuyu Koinange and 70s change the katiba..

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Re: Kiunjuri Gives Uhuru Marching Orders
« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2020, 11:22:34 PM »
BBI 2.0 is in the works and we have no less than Matiang'i and a plethora of Ngilus, Waigurus and the shebang campaigning for Exec PM. BBI 1.0 was to box your boy to back BBI - now he need to work twice as hard to paint it as evil. There is no opposition to parliamentary now - it a matter of time - Ruto was outfoxed.
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Re: Kiunjuri Gives Uhuru Marching Orders
« Reply #32 on: January 12, 2020, 11:45:44 AM »
So you think BBI has blanket support so Matiangi can bulldoze us

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Re: Kiunjuri Gives Uhuru Marching Orders
« Reply #33 on: January 12, 2020, 04:30:31 PM »
So you think BBI has blanket support so Matiangi can bulldoze us

Yup. It has non-Gema support plus GoK. Gameshot
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Re: Kiunjuri Gives Uhuru Marching Orders
« Reply #34 on: January 12, 2020, 04:31:35 PM »
Shit hits the fan in Jubilee the madhouse Party

Now DP Ruto is locked out of official residence
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Re: Kiunjuri Gives Uhuru Marching Orders
« Reply #35 on: January 12, 2020, 08:58:18 PM »
Robina,who is angling for this non existent pm.. Matiangi or Waiguru or Uhuru..once you're very clear on that...we can move forward.It appears while you want Uhuru for the job (the extend you can go for parliamentary system)..Matiangi n Waiguru are battling for it.We know Raila wants Pork .Lots of people have been given false hopes of non existent pm before starting with Raila,Ruto, maDVD,

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Re: Kiunjuri Gives Uhuru Marching Orders
« Reply #36 on: January 12, 2020, 09:34:02 PM »
Robina,who is angling for this non existent pm.. Matiangi or Waiguru or Uhuru..once you're very clear on that...we can move forward.It appears while you want Uhuru for the job (the extend you can go for parliamentary system)..Matiangi n Waiguru are battling for it.We know Raila wants Pork .Lots of people have been given false hopes of non existent pm before starting with Raila,Ruto, maDVD,

Ruto is one of the fooled - his midgets are being hanged without trial now by Her Majesty Queen Jezebel aka Uhuru Kenyatta. Merely backing him is akin to treason. Of course Matiang'i, Waiguru and everyone must angle for PM - it's the formal application process for junior post. Only a fool like Kiunjuri can settle for runningmate ab initio.

In other news, after Raila has locked Ruto out of Gusii, Kuria, Kamba - now it seem Mdvd and Weta have lost all their big kahuna to Raila. You were right Luhya will desert the windbags, but for Raila not Ruto. :)

Malala Kakamega ANC senator now BBI
Wangamati Bungoma Ford-K governor now BBI
Khaniri Vihiga ANC senator now BBI
Otichillo Vihiga ANC governor now BBI
Khaemba Trans Nzoia Ford-K governor now BBI
Even Mdvd boy Osotsi - ANC nominated MP - is BBI
Eunice Wamalwa is also firmly in Raila corner

Once again Ruto has a lineup of nobodies. Seem even Washiali is attending? Parliamentary is unstoppable and Babu will milk this cow all the way. With the clock looking at 80 he has to settle for ceremonial. It a worthy sacrifice for Kenya to have parliamentary. Uhuru Kenyatta of course is too greedy and selfish to ensure tried & tested parliamentary out of plain patriotism.

Buckle up - your boy will make an excellent Kiongozi ya Upinzani. He is very passionate, articulate and full of energy. His boys Kuria and Nelson Koech are handling the teargas very well. Almost as good as Babu Owinos.
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Re: Kiunjuri Gives Uhuru Marching Orders
« Reply #37 on: January 13, 2020, 06:15:38 AM »
Oparanya from the little luhya sub tribe is going nowhere with Raila.Real deal is Bukusu and Maragoli.As for Ruto Kiunjuri they dealt with biggest headache..the rest is details.Raila groupies are still dreaming about BBI creating non existent positions enough to satisfy a huge any Ruto coalition

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Re: Kiunjuri Gives Uhuru Marching Orders
« Reply #38 on: January 13, 2020, 09:40:57 AM »
Pundit - you are right Kenya remain tribal. Now, tell us, why Oparanya hit 70% against Khalwale Ford K meagre 20%?Cause ODM is very popular among the smaller non- Maragoli & -Bukusu Luhya. ODM sweep Kakamega and Busia for that. Oparanya, Wakos and Khalwale if he had a brain and less broke would stick to ODM. It would be easy-peasy to governor for bullfighter. What a fool.

Come to big sub- tribes Maragoli and Bukusu. These tend to follow their own Mdvd or Weta. But ALL big kahuna are in Raila corner.... just listed for you. 5 of 5 governors, 4 of 5 senators are in BBI. Mdvd and Weta are crying so loudly. They know Ruto is DOA and won't join him despite Raila and Sifuna scorn. Mdvd openly say he will not join Ruto. Ditto for Kalonzo.

In short Ruto is going nowhere. Kamba, Gusii, Kuria is under lock and key. Now Luhya he is out. Washiali warming up to BBI...  :o Oh boy do you need a new strategy.
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Re: Kiunjuri Gives Uhuru Marching Orders
« Reply #39 on: January 13, 2020, 09:42:34 AM »
Oparanya from the little luhya sub tribe is going nowhere with Raila.Real deal is Bukusu and Maragoli.As for Ruto Kiunjuri they dealt with biggest headache..the rest is details.Raila groupies are still dreaming about BBI creating non existent positions enough to satisfy a huge any Ruto coalition

The "biggest headache" i imagine is Uhuru so-say. Your punditry is rusty. Take a break. Umechoka.
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