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Pundit see how insidious graft is haunting Russia
« on: December 10, 2019, 12:52:06 AM »
Wada hands Russia four-year ban from international competitions

https://www.nation.co.ke/sports/athletics/Wada-hands-Russia-four-year-Olympics-ban-over-doping/1100-5379164-ritheiz/index.html
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Re: Pundit see how insidious graft is haunting Russia
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2019, 01:04:21 AM »
Russia ticks all the boxes: uber-grade industry of machinery, aircraft & aerospace; no 2 globally in military & defence; top-tier in scientific papers & Nobels; top-notch education & universities; UN veto seat & geopolitical clout; no 1 in oil, gas & minerals; no 1 in vast array of natural resources; no 2 in tourism & culture; high gender parity & women rights, lowest debt-to-GDP in OECD, ease of doing business, name it.

Graft alone definitively torpedoes Russia from 1st to 2nd world. Despite being 2nd only to US in almost everything their life conditions are same as Turkey and Mexico.
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Re: Pundit see how insidious graft is haunting Russia
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2019, 07:31:13 AM »
Russia ticks all the boxes: uber-grade industry of machinery, aircraft & aerospace; no 2 globally in military & defence; top-tier in scientific papers & Nobels; top-notch education & universities; UN veto seat & geopolitical clout; no 1 in oil, gas & minerals; no 1 in vast array of natural resources; no 2 in tourism & culture; high gender parity & women rights, lowest debt-to-GDP in OECD, ease of doing business, name it.

Graft alone definitively torpedoes Russia from 1st to 2nd world. Despite being 2nd only to US in almost everything their life conditions are same as Turkey and Mexico.
Unfortunately Trump and Republicans love lifestyles of the oligarchs, thats why they want the middle class out of the way.
Even in Kenya we love our oligarchs like Sonko - I believed the guy until......

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Re: Pundit see how insidious graft is haunting Russia
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2019, 09:21:00 AM »
Parkerpencil - Yes but Mueller nailed a handful of cheats as a by the way. In Russia or the Ukraine Mueller would simply turn into an overnight billionaire ala Amos Wako. Noone with 2 pieces of silver would go to jail.

Trump campaign manager Manafort is behind bars... Ruto IEBC spannerboy Chirchir was promoted to ICT CS, was fired for graft, then landed Jubilee chief agent.

Putin purges the ranks now and then. But that is chopping the finger to cure cancer. Once it's implanted into the system it's a hopeless battle. You need an exorcist not a surgeon.
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Re: Pundit see how insidious graft is haunting Russia
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2019, 02:49:57 PM »
Parkerpencil - Yes but Mueller nailed a handful of cheats as a by the way. In Russia or the Ukraine Mueller would simply turn into an overnight billionaire ala Amos Wako. Noone with 2 pieces of silver would go to jail.

Trump campaign manager Manafort is behind bars... Ruto IEBC spannerboy Chirchir was promoted to ICT CS, was fired for graft, then landed Jubilee chief agent.

Putin purges the ranks now and then. But that is chopping the finger to cure cancer. Once it's implanted into the system it's a hopeless battle. You need an exorcist not a surgeon.

I like yout choice of words there :), "exorcist".
Yap, Kenyan leaders need it as much as Ukrainians.

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Re: Pundit see how insidious graft is haunting Russia
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2019, 04:01:44 PM »
Russia doping is not graft. Kenya one is graft. Russia doping is state sanctioned vain glory competition against US and their attempt to extend their 'super-power' status & rivalry against the US. Russia problem is not really getting over USSR super-power thing - kinda of British colonial hangover.

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Re: Pundit see how insidious graft is haunting Russia
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2019, 07:47:17 PM »
Russia doping is not graft. Kenya one is graft. Russia doping is state sanctioned vain glory competition against US and their attempt to extend their 'super-power' status & rivalry against the US. Russia problem is not really getting over USSR super-power thing - kinda of British colonial hangover.

That's in fact worse. Why does the UK not suffer such scandals? It's like Iranian state terrorism compared to Saudi freelance jihadis - which is worse? Can you seriously argue that the Kremlin sanctioning cheating is not indicative of insidious corruption?
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Re: Pundit see how insidious graft is haunting Russia
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2019, 04:46:10 PM »
US's Nike Oregon project is not any clean. When it comes to international sports - it kinda of soft war for some nations - so some countries are willing to go to any extend.

Robina you're looking for very difficult examples to make your corrupt point - :)

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Re: Pundit see how insidious graft is haunting Russia
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2019, 12:12:34 AM »
US's Nike Oregon project is not any clean. When it comes to international sports - it kinda of soft war for some nations - so some countries are willing to go to any extend.

Robina you're looking for very difficult examples to make your corrupt point - :)

Corruption is everywhere. USA is one of the most corrupt countries ever. Its called pay to play. Legalizes corruption. Mega farmers contribute to those who favor them. In turn these mega farmers get HUGE tax breaks and subsidies which they use to get more favor in government.

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Re: Pundit see how insidious graft is haunting Russia
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2019, 03:16:13 AM »
There is no state-sponsored doping in the US. That's a unquiely Russian plague.
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