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Re: BBI d-day
« Reply #20 on: October 23, 2019, 03:01:51 PM »
Women seats are not necessary but can be exploited by Dr No.
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Re: BBI d-day
« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2019, 04:32:14 PM »
These are facebook rumours. Look likely BBI will be presented later when Uhuru and Raila come-back from abroad. Tomorrow is their last gazetted day to work on it.
Women seats are not necessary but can be exploited by Dr No.

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Re: BBI d-day
« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2019, 05:09:44 PM »
What do the Mashada rumors say about these?

Questions -- is MP term same as PM 7 years? I hope so. Who heads the REB - regional economies?


These are facebook rumours. Look likely BBI will be presented later when Uhuru and Raila come-back from abroad. Tomorrow is their last gazetted day to work on it.
Women seats are not necessary but can be exploited by Dr No.
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Re: BBI d-day
« Reply #23 on: October 23, 2019, 05:17:51 PM »
I don't think you can have proposals that can make everyone happy - that is way overhauling constitution is very hard. What gather from facebook- people don't want is a parliament electing their leader - so whoever become the top dog - kenyans want universal suffrage - at least to make it hard for some drug dealer to just buy off Mps - you know our MPigs have the same reputation as pigs.

Also nobody want to lose their constituency or county.

Nominated seats can go. You can add regional system. You can even have a parliamentary system - but guy has to be elected by the people - and he can go sit in parliament.

I think if BBI don't touch 1) universal suffrage 2) constituencies 3) counties - they are good to go.


What do the Mashada rumors say about these?

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Re: BBI d-day
« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2019, 06:07:28 PM »
So long as Exec PM or paramount chief is properly accountable - by PMQs, court subpoenas, impeachment, etc - it's good to go. Separating state vs GoK is one big step. Cause PM is not "father of the nation" deity - as is the case presently. Poor Boris is pelted with questions -  critiques left and right - which is the exact pill the doc ordered.

Ps - seem you are angling for soft landing :) - after your crusades and noises about Uhuru playing Babu. Cross your fingers over the chameleon.

I don't think you can have proposals that can make everyone happy - that is way overhauling constitution is very hard. What gather from facebook- people don't want is a parliament electing their leader - so whoever become the top dog - kenyans want universal suffrage - at least to make it hard for some drug dealer to just buy off Mps - you know our MPigs have the same reputation as pigs.

Also nobody want to lose their constituency or county.

Nominated seats can go. You can add regional system. You can even have a parliamentary system - but guy has to be elected by the people - and he can go sit in parliament.

I think if BBI don't touch 1) universal suffrage 2) constituencies 3) counties - they are good to go.
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Re: BBI d-day
« Reply #25 on: October 23, 2019, 06:21:29 PM »
Of course this is just but a game. I don't think the country is ready for a referendum soon. Uhuru is playing babu.
So long as Exec PM or paramount chief is properly accountable - by PMQs, court subpoenas, impeachment, etc - it's good to go. Separating state vs GoK is one big step. Cause PM is not "father of the nation" deity - as is the case presently. Poor Boris is pelted with questions -  critiques left and right - which is the exact pill the doc ordered.

Ps - seem you are angling for soft landing :) - after your crusades and noises about Uhuru playing Babu. Cross your fingers over the chameleon.

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Re: BBI d-day
« Reply #26 on: October 23, 2019, 07:22:09 PM »
Uhuru is not loath of referendum - cause disruption or mono-horned legacy. You underrate him. Why does he need legacy - when he is eyeing fresh 7 years? PM is merely rebranded PORK - or section 2A - a reshuffle of the deck.

Of course this is just but a game. I don't think the country is ready for a referendum soon. Uhuru is playing babu.
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Re: BBI d-day
« Reply #27 on: October 23, 2019, 07:54:11 PM »
Uhuru was never interested in that power thing. He is not Raila or Ruto. I think he is genuinely tired and want to go home. If he doesn't - and try to pull section 2A repeal - he will see war - a big war - he will lose.
Uhuru is not loath of referendum - cause disruption or mono-horned legacy. You underrate him. Why does he need legacy - when he is eyeing fresh 7 years? PM is merely rebranded PORK - or section 2A - a reshuffle of the deck.

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Re: BBI d-day
« Reply #28 on: October 23, 2019, 09:54:55 PM »
Haji & BBI crew will "forget" to bar old PORKs and PMs :D - and Arap Jomo will swear he is not interested. He is already at it. Once it pass of course - nothing stop him from giving it a shot - with Babu backing. I don't know why you underrate Uhuru? I think the fierce Ruto-Babu feud will work to Gema advantage again. Babu would rather be ceremonial president - swear in folks and grace portraits in offices or kiosks - than see Ruto as Exec PORK or Exec PM.

Let see that Haji report. It too much conjecture for now.

Uhuru was never interested in that power thing. He is not Raila or Ruto. I think he is genuinely tired and want to go home. If he doesn't - and try to pull section 2A repeal - he will see war - a big war - he will lose.
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