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Census to include intersex people
« on: July 28, 2019, 09:53:58 AM »
https://www.nation.co.ke/news/Kenya-census-include-male--female-intersex-citizens-/1056-5212620-7k4fyz/index.html

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Re: Census to include intersex people
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2019, 02:30:16 PM »
2 Timothy 2:4  No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

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Re: Census to include intersex people
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2019, 02:47:50 PM »
Great. Bucketing the world as male-female is denial of reality. Sex is a continuum and more psychology than biology.
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Re: Census to include intersex people
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2019, 02:52:48 PM »

But feelings are biochemically mediated though.  Hormones and such.
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Re: Census to include intersex people
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2019, 03:05:07 PM »

But feelings are biochemically mediated though.  Hormones and such.

The psychology of intersex is a proven science actually. The "feelings" pastor derides in the delusional are tiny minority used to invalidate a whole group. Of course there's irony in a man of the cloth insisting on proof.
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Re: Census to include intersex people
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2019, 03:37:15 PM »

But feelings are biochemically mediated though.  Hormones and such.

The psychology of intersex is a proven science actually. The "feelings" pastor derides in the delusional are tiny minority used to invalidate a whole group. Of course there's irony in a man of the cloth insisting on proof.

I believe that.  And yep, vooke demands nothing short of logical proof for scientific facts.  A standard which science itself does not even recognize.
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Re: Census to include intersex people
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2019, 04:49:42 PM »
Great. Bucketing the world as male-female is denial of reality. Sex is a continuum and more psychology than biology.
Well said.You nailed it

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Re: Census to include intersex people
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2019, 05:17:36 PM »
There are only two gender... Male and female!

The rest are a creation of degenerative liberals. Probably the census is funded by soros or a related organisation!

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Re: Census to include intersex people
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2019, 06:50:24 PM »

But feelings are biochemically mediated though.  Hormones and such.

The psychology of intersex is a proven science actually. The "feelings" pastor derides in the delusional are tiny minority used to invalidate a whole group. Of course there's irony in a man of the cloth insisting on proof.

I believe that.  And yep, vooke demands nothing short of logical proof for scientific facts.  A standard which science itself does not even recognize.

Vooke's standard of proof would play quite a number on religion and faith.
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Re: Census to include intersex people
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2019, 06:52:21 PM »
There are only two gender... Male and female!

The rest are a creation of degenerative liberals. Probably the census is funded by soros or a related organisation!

Well, opinions are a dime a dozen thank God we got science.
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Re: Census to include intersex people
« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2019, 09:32:49 PM »
There are only two gender... Male and female!

The rest are a creation of degenerative liberals. Probably the census is funded by soros or a related organisation!

Well, opinions are a dime a dozen thank God we got science.

There has been very little progress in core science since era of Tesla, Leibnitz etc. What you describe is pseudo science based on hearsay, degenerative liberals consensus, and biased opinions.

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Re: Census to include intersex people
« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2019, 09:57:33 PM »
If you want to know how science can be manipulated to achieve social deception, look no further than homosexuality (sodomy) and climate change. At one point, sodomy proponents drew inspiration from animals by claiming that certain animal species were also homosexual. So because orangutang also mates with mothers and children, then? The pseudoscience has now morphed itself into fact.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2004/07/homosexual-animals-debate/
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Re: Census to include intersex people
« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2019, 02:31:14 AM »
At one point, sodomy proponents drew inspiration from animals by claiming that certain animal species were also homosexual.

Yep.  As radical as this may sound, homosexuality is actually not a state of being bewitched.  People are born that way.

So because orangutang also mates with mothers and children, then? The pseudoscience has now morphed itself into fact.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2004/07/homosexual-animals-debate/

Nobody supporting gay rights that I am aware of  is suggesting that incest or pedophilia be normalized.  Are you?
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Re: Census to include intersex people
« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2019, 06:31:29 AM »

But feelings are biochemically mediated though.  Hormones and such.

The psychology of intersex is a proven science actually. The "feelings" pastor derides in the delusional are tiny minority used to invalidate a whole group. Of course there's irony in a man of the cloth insisting on proof.

Don't get me started on DSM-5
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Re: Census to include intersex people
« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2019, 09:20:27 AM »
We risk speaking at cross purposes. We need clear answers on:
What is "intersex"?
What is a "sex continuum"?
Celebratory violence: 2017 crime invented to justify killings to prevent Raila from becoming PORK. http://www.nipate.com/download/file.php?id=4244

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Re: Census to include intersex people
« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2019, 12:19:43 PM »
Basically think of it as male,female and other. inter-sex are people who are neither male or female because of biology and physiology and because it's their right to be whatever they want.my wife sister recently discovered her daughter didn't have a vagina - she had a hole for peeing only - and they took her for surgery - I am not sure how she will turn out in the future.
We risk speaking at cross purposes. We need clear answers on:
What is "intersex"?
What is a "sex continuum"?

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Re: Census to include intersex people
« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2019, 05:46:48 PM »
Intersex is two things :

-Physiology of mixed sexual organs as your sister-in-law's daughter
-Psychology as in a woman who uses right brain (transgender man)  or a man who uses left brain (transgender woman)

Both cases are proven scientifically by gynaecology and psychiatry. I don't see any reason a woman would optionally aspire to live as a male or vice versa. It's an accident of birth. Particularly transgenders suffer gender dysphoria so they have no choice but to crossdress, hormone therapy, surgery, etc. A biological woman who think like a man will invariably get into brawls, drink tusker, dress as a tomboy and walk into gents or male toilet. Trouble become that they can't use urinal while standing  :)

I don't know what motivates GeeMail to imagine this status as fun, optional or evil. Except that he is a tree-hugging hippie and a "conservative" - so everything must remain the same. Everyone needs proof except their imaginary Jesus.

Basically think of it as male,female and other. inter-sex are people who are neither male or female because of biology and physiology and because it's their right to be whatever they want.my wife sister recently discovered her daughter didn't have a vagina - she had a hole for peeing only - and they took her for surgery - I am not sure how she will turn out in the future.
We risk speaking at cross purposes. We need clear answers on:
What is "intersex"?
What is a "sex continuum"?
♫♫ They say all good boys go to heaven... but bad boys bring heaven to you ~ song by Julia Michaels

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Re: Census to include intersex people
« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2019, 05:53:31 PM »
Intersex is two things :

-Physiology of mixed sexual organs as your sister-in-law's daughter
-Psychology as in a woman who uses right brain (transgender man)  or a man who uses left brain (transgender woman)

Both cases are proven scientifically by gynaecology and psychiatry. I don't see any reason a woman would optionally aspire to live as a male or vice versa. It's an accident of birth. Particularly transgenders suffer gender dysphoria so they have no choice but to crossdress, hormone therapy, surgery, etc. A biological woman who think like a man will invariably get into brawls, drink tusker, dress as a tomboy and walk into gents or male toilet. Trouble become that they can't use urinal while standing  :)

I don't know what motivates GeeMail to imagine this status as fun, optional or evil. Except that he is a tree-hugging hippie and a "conservative" - so everything must remain the same. Everyone needs proof except their imaginary Jesus.

Basically think of it as male,female and other. inter-sex are people who are neither male or female because of biology and physiology and because it's their right to be whatever they want.my wife sister recently discovered her daughter didn't have a vagina - she had a hole for peeing only - and they took her for surgery - I am not sure how she will turn out in the future.
We risk speaking at cross purposes. We need clear answers on:
What is "intersex"?
What is a "sex continuum"?
2 Timothy 2:4  No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

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Re: Census to include intersex people
« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2019, 06:15:04 PM »
Pastor how do you distinguish real vs imaginary? For psychological intersex
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Re: Census to include intersex people
« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2019, 06:52:42 PM »
Pastor how do you distinguish real vs imaginary? For psychological intersex
2 Timothy 2:4  No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.