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Kenyatta family Criminal Enterprise Vs Ruto tender inflation
« on: April 13, 2019, 06:52:22 PM »
[quote = Wandia Njoya]
Theft is theft. So I'm not saying any is better. But the difference between Ruto's and Muigai's stealing is that Ruto's is illegal, and Muigai's is legalized. Ruto is using raw power to steal, but Muigai is using state machinery to enforce stealing. So that's why Muigai can say he's fighting corruption while his family gets rich.

From a technically legal standpoint, it's true that the Kenyattas are not corrupt. That's because Muigai gets laws changed and policies like #hudumanumba passed as if they are government policies, when they are actually Kenyatta theft. It's civil servants paid by you who run the Kenyatta empire. And even if you go to court against Huduma number, it's GoK, yani it's still you, who pays the legal fees and the risk of the Kenyatta businesses. And after all that, the thurakus and silly middle class dummies can tell us that it's not Muigai but the people around him who are at fault, that there is no evidence of Muigai stealing in person.

#boycottNIIMS

Remember what I was saying about being bad and being evil? Bad is individual. Evil is badness that is embedded in the system. Ruto ni mbaya. Muigai ni muovu.
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Re: Kenyatta family Criminal Enterprise Vs Ruto tender inflation
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2019, 07:00:26 PM »
Now you know why Kenyatta family want to take over JKIA & Kenya airways, Ruto only fault is providing hospitality to Kenya airways passengers


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Re: Kenyatta family Criminal Enterprise Vs Ruto tender inflation
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2019, 08:12:04 PM »
Habari ya the exiled General? Umewahi ongea na yeye? Ati least check on the poor man for us ama?
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Re: Kenyatta family Criminal Enterprise Vs Ruto tender inflation
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2019, 10:19:21 PM »
"I freed a thousand slaves.  I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves."

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Re: Kenyatta family Criminal Enterprise Vs Ruto tender inflation
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2019, 12:03:12 AM »
Their standard bearer is RV Pundit. patel ni altar boy initiated juzi. Pundit has been trying to sell to us his latest invention - that corruption or "generosity" is African culture. :D His other inventions are legacy and what he calls OUTPUTS [sic]. Ati so long as the GDP grows - you don't need to worry if the deadbeat gas tanker is right on your lane. The proof of the truth in this gospel is Ruto's popularity - the majority indulge so it must be good. If you don't agree with these parochial views? - that's because you are dim witted. Talk of tribal blinkers and hero worship.

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Re: Kenyatta family Criminal Enterprise Vs Ruto tender inflation
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2019, 01:30:06 AM »
General is fighting from exile, last time I checked he had released a book. Home bound soon. Ruto brigade should provide him with safe passage, anyone that can aid deconstructing dynasty instituonalized corruption should be welcomed with open arms. You included.
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Re: Kenyatta family Criminal Enterprise Vs Ruto tender inflation
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2019, 01:33:13 AM »
Inbuilt corruption like taxation vs instituonalized corruption.

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Re: Kenyatta family Criminal Enterprise Vs Ruto tender inflation
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2019, 01:42:12 AM »
That's funny right there, only you can come up with this kind of analogy. Let us expand the water tanker analogy further....if the water tanker can hold 1000 litres of water right, and it has a small leak, leaking roughly 10 litres for every 100 km that's negligible if you are delivering water only100 -300 km. However, when you look at the dynasty instituonalized corruption what do you get? They change the rules and make themselves the only one who can deliver water...
Their standard bearer is RV Pundit. patel ni altar boy initiated juzi. Pundit has been trying to sell to us his latest invention - that corruption or "generosity" is African culture. :D His other inventions are legacy and what he calls OUTPUTS [sic]. Ati so long as the GDP grows - you don't need to worry if the deadbeat gas tanker is right on your lane. The proof of the truth in this gospel is Ruto's popularity - the majority indulge so it must be good. If you don't agree with these parochial views? - that's because you are dim witted. Talk of tribal blinkers and hero worship.


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Re: Kenyatta family Criminal Enterprise Vs Ruto tender inflation
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2019, 02:51:53 AM »
The General is unpredictable python - Ruto is too smart to touch the skunk.

General is fighting from exile, last time I checked he had released a book. Home bound soon. Ruto brigade should provide him with safe passage, anyone that can aid deconstructing dynasty instituonalized corruption should be welcomed with open arms. You included.
Habari ya the exiled General? Umewahi ongea na yeye? Ati least check on the poor man for us ama?
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Re: Kenyatta family Criminal Enterprise Vs Ruto tender inflation
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2019, 03:04:29 AM »
GAS - not water - moto sana. Ubiquitous or small-man corruption is WAY more insidious than elite corruption. We can debate this if you like.

Now, while I don't support the "dynasties" - I am exceptional to the term because it attempts to lump the Odingas with the Mois and Kenyattas - a false equivalent. Again we can debate this.

To the point: accepting Ruto's "generosity" is like accepting unprotected sex with a HIV patient - the man literally says to Wanjiku or the impressionable youth, it is ok to steal or cheat, here -bite the forbidden apple, it won't kill you. 8) He normalizes graft, which is very wrong and sad. Pundit says that Uhuru or Raila or Kibaki are stingy thieves and he is right - but this makes them better not worse - because they infect fewer generations with their cancer. Ruto's variety is more like anthrax or ebola - which would spiral into a hurricane if he gained real power. The man is a wreaking snowball - except your school sees prosperity where I see destruction. Ruto is the biblical Eve of our time - whose sinful wages will take a new Jesus to save Kenya.

What do you say Mister patel? - at least you are in yellow jersey - unlike our dispassionate Pundit.

That's funny right there, only you can come up with this kind of analogy. Let us expand the water tanker analogy further....if the water tanker can hold 1000 litres of water right, and it has a small leak, leaking roughly 10 litres for every 100 km that's negligible if you are delivering water only100 -300 km. However, when you look at the dynasty instituonalized corruption what do you get? They change the rules and make themselves the only one who can deliver water...
Their standard bearer is RV Pundit. patel ni altar boy initiated juzi. Pundit has been trying to sell to us his latest invention - that corruption or "generosity" is African culture. :D His other inventions are legacy and what he calls OUTPUTS [sic]. Ati so long as the GDP grows - you don't need to worry if the deadbeat gas tanker is right on your lane. The proof of the truth in this gospel is Ruto's popularity - the majority indulge so it must be good. If you don't agree with these parochial views? - that's because you are dim witted. Talk of tribal blinkers and hero worship.

♫♫ They say all good boys go to heaven... but bad boys bring heaven to you ~ song by Julia Michaels

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Re: Kenyatta family Criminal Enterprise Vs Ruto tender inflation
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2019, 07:39:18 AM »
You make it sounds like Ruto is going around a chopper dropping cash. Ruto is out there providing leadership and practical solutions to kenya in their villages - like Moi did & Museveni do. Occasionally he pops into harambees when Raila pops into funerals. Most of the time Ruto is out there opening or starting a new tarmac road, unveil electricity, water dams, and many jubilee development projects. That is what people really care about. Those are stuff that make Ruto popular with local leadership and people. It's the reason why Moi despite coming from small tribe will remain the longest-serving president in kenya. It's the reason why Museveni has done 35yrs and look just about started...may end up running Uganda for 50yrs. It's about getting out of comfort zones of Nairobi - and being with the people in their villages, towns & hamlets - providing solutions - and even an ear to their problems & cries.

Obviously, Raila is waiting for last-minute campaign rally - to do a whirlwind tour - and hopes to compete against Ruto who hasn't stopped campaigning since I think 2010. Ruto hard work btw 2013-2017 is obvious in his iron-grip of the parliament. Now imagine how far Ruto will be in 2022...

As regards to 'Hustler' vis 'Anti-corruption' propaganda wars - we shall how that goes. Corruption is an abstract concept that will hard sell. When you shout corruption is cancer - nobody really understands that. When the sons and daughters of Kenya political uber-corrupt past merge and gang up against the sons of peasants- that will rattle a lot of kenyan peasants  - the majority. This is narrative that Ruto has used succesfully first in Eldoret against Chesire and later against Moi - and it resonates with many. So any day Raila talks with Gideon Moi, MaDVD and Uhuru....they are making work easier for Ruto - and gaining him a lot of support from the hustler nation.
GAS - not water - moto sana. Ubiquitous or small-man corruption is WAY more insidious than elite corruption. We can debate this if you like.

Now, while I don't support the "dynasties" - I am exceptional to the term because it attempts to lump the Odingas with the Mois and Kenyattas - a false equivalent. Again we can debate this.

To the point: accepting Ruto's "generosity" is like accepting unprotected sex with a HIV patient - the man literally says to Wanjiku or the impressionable youth, it is ok to steal or cheat, here -bite the forbidden apple, it won't kill you. 8) He normalizes graft, which is very wrong and sad. Pundit says that Uhuru or Raila or Kibaki are stingy thieves and he is right - but this makes them better not worse - because they infect fewer generations with their cancer. Ruto's variety is more like anthrax or ebola - which would spiral into a hurricane if he gained real power. The man is a wreaking snowball - except your school sees prosperity where I see destruction. Ruto is the biblical Eve of our time - whose sinful wages will take a new Jesus to save Kenya.

What do you say Mister patel? - at least you are in yellow jersey - unlike our dispassionate Pundit.

That's funny right there, only you can come up with this kind of analogy. Let us expand the water tanker analogy further....if the water tanker can hold 1000 litres of water right, and it has a small leak, leaking roughly 10 litres for every 100 km that's negligible if you are delivering water only100 -300 km. However, when you look at the dynasty instituonalized corruption what do you get? They change the rules and make themselves the only one who can deliver water...
Their standard bearer is RV Pundit. patel ni altar boy initiated juzi. Pundit has been trying to sell to us his latest invention - that corruption or "generosity" is African culture. :D His other inventions are legacy and what he calls OUTPUTS [sic]. Ati so long as the GDP grows - you don't need to worry if the deadbeat gas tanker is right on your lane. The proof of the truth in this gospel is Ruto's popularity - the majority indulge so it must be good. If you don't agree with these parochial views? - that's because you are dim witted. Talk of tribal blinkers and hero worship.


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Re: Kenyatta family Criminal Enterprise Vs Ruto tender inflation
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2019, 10:59:29 AM »
You make it sounds like Ruto is going around a chopper dropping cash.
Yes he is. Literally. Most of the followership by local influencers is attained via this "generosity". Iko per diem uliza Khalwale. Wanjiku of course follows the local leaders.


Ruto is out there providing leadership and practical solutions to kenya in their villages - like Moi did & Museveni do. Occasionally he pops into harambees when Raila pops into funerals. Most of the time Ruto is out there opening or starting a new tarmac road, unveil electricity, water dams, and many jubilee development projects. That is what people really care about. Those are stuff that make Ruto popular with local leadership and people. It's the reason why Moi despite coming from small tribe will remain the longest-serving president in kenya. It's the reason why Museveni has done 35yrs and look just about started...may end up running Uganda for 50yrs. It's about getting out of comfort zones of Nairobi - and being with the people in their villages, towns & hamlets - providing solutions - and even an ear to their problems & cries.

Obviously, Raila is waiting for last-minute campaign rally - to do a whirlwind tour - and hopes to compete against Ruto who hasn't stopped campaigning since I think 2010. Ruto hard work btw 2013-2017 is obvious in his iron-grip of the parliament. Now imagine how far Ruto will be in 2022...

As regards to 'Hustler' vis 'Anti-corruption' propaganda wars - we shall how that goes. Corruption is an abstract concept that will hard sell. When you shout corruption is cancer - nobody really understands that. When the sons and daughters of Kenya political uber-corrupt past merge and gang up against the sons of peasants- that will rattle a lot of kenyan peasants  - the majority. This is narrative that Ruto has used succesfully first in Eldoret against Chesire and later against Moi - and it resonates with many. So any day Raila talks with Gideon Moi, MaDVD and Uhuru....they are making work easier for Ruto - and gaining him a lot of support from the hustler nation.

Noone says Ruto is ineffective - quite the opposite and will probably win. The debate is what to expect in Ruto's Kenya. He is way smarter and more energetic than dimwit Uhuru and old Raila - plus the liberal utility of blood loot - big factors in his dominance. Evil often prevails over good in society - and this doesn't wash away the sin - the more that indulge the more insidious. Most people are tribal, tribalism is still bad. Most mzungu are racist, it still bad. See? winning doesn't sanctify anything.

Ruto's Kenya would be Sodom & Gomorrah.
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Re: Kenyatta family Criminal Enterprise Vs Ruto tender inflation
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2019, 11:47:47 AM »
Political campaigns are very expensive. That is why Obamas and Clintons have to raise billions of dollars. Ruto is on the ceaseless campaign trail - these things cost money - the allowance cover fuel, sound systems, lunch, flights - not of one person - but every MP has a retinue of people - and Ruto has to find money to do this. This is why Ruto has to accumulate a financial war chest for 2022.

As regard what Ruto will achieve...you have his track record in Kanu, in Eldoret North, in ministries he has headed and in his co-president with Uhuru during URP-TNA coalition - and even know when he has taken a backseat - and allowed Uhuru to rule - he still get a job to do.

Stop scare-mongering us. Ruto will take kenya to the next level.

Yes he is. Literally. Most of the followership by local influencers is attained via this "generosity". Iko per diem uliza Khalwale. Wanjiku of course follows the local leaders.
Noone says Ruto is ineffective - quite the opposite and will probably win. The debate is what to expect in Ruto's Kenya. He is way smarter and more energetic than dimwit Uhuru and old Raila - plus the liberal utility of blood loot - big factors in his dominance. Evil often prevails over good in society - and this doesn't wash away the sin - the more that indulge the more insidious. Most people are tribal, tribalism is still bad. Most mzungu are racist, it still bad. See? winning doesn't sanctify anything.

Ruto's Kenya would be Sodom & Gomorrah.

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Re: Kenyatta family Criminal Enterprise Vs Ruto tender inflation
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2019, 01:58:15 PM »
Of course it's a lie that Ruto borrow & build would take Kenya to any heights Kibaki or Uhuru or Raila could not. The development would be organic - with the imminent demographic dividend - a BOOM independent of any leadership. The samplers from the past - about say fixing college admission lag time - is outstripped by the negatives inflicted by graft and PEV.  Dead patients, droughts, homeless folks, road accidents, al Shaabab and the full pandora bag -  can be tracked back to graft.

In short get ready to reap Ruto's African Tiger thud cheque - Kagame or Meles my foot.

Political campaigns are very expensive. That is why Obamas and Clintons have to raise billions of dollars. Ruto is on the ceaseless campaign trail - these things cost money - the allowance cover fuel, sound systems, lunch, flights - not of one person - but every MP has a retinue of people - and Ruto has to find money to do this. This is why Ruto has to accumulate a financial war chest for 2022.

As regard what Ruto will achieve...you have his track record in Kanu, in Eldoret North, in ministries he has headed and in his co-president with Uhuru during URP-TNA coalition - and even know when he has taken a backseat - and allowed Uhuru to rule - he still get a job to do.

Stop scare-mongering us. Ruto will take kenya to the next level.
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