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Re: Odm and Raila inalimwa Siaya na Nairobi
« Reply #60 on: April 08, 2019, 05:01:19 PM »
You're wrong on Emba - Wiper Kalonzo going by 2017 elections - would have gone head to head with ODM (luos + some luhya & gusiis) - what nicked it for Wiper was Jubilee (read Nairobi GEMA) supporting Wiper candidate. If Jubilee had fielded a candidate - this would have gone head to head like in 2017 - where Sumra lost by few votes. Nairobi always remember is Kikuyu 30%, 15% each (Luo+Luhya+Kamba), 5% each for (Gusii, Kalenjin, Somalis, Merus). 5% everyone else...those percentages vary from place to place...with somalis dominating eastleigh, indians parklands, luhyas westlands, gusii kawangware, Luos- basically runs the other slums - kibra, mathare, baba ndogo, mukurus, kayole - with luhyas - and kikuyus dominate Kasarani & Dandora  & Dagoretti- kambas have sizeable population in Embakasi and most of the slums.

Why did Jubilee stand down in Emba and not in Wajir :) Tafakari hayo. Why didn't Jubilee support ODM's Raila candidate in Emba - but went ahead to support Wiper.

Odinga is getting roasted pole pole bila Kujua. Nasa is getting roasted - Jubilee are still largely intact - while Jubilee has stealthy splintered NASA into 5-10 parties. Playing all of them against each other...while Jubilee are jealous guarding it's unity (ignore old Kamanda and group).

And that is brilliance. Raila is being played like burukenge. He may well overtake MaDVD who was handed PORK for the price of tea and MANDAZI :D somewhere in river road side. Once he had severed links with Raila - it was system go! Uhuru claimed to have been under demonic influence  :D

Fala ingine ni Kalonzo - who was taken round in KKK and ICC rallies - while everyone knew UhuRuto had their own plans.

Wiper played kamba nationalism card - Emba South has lots of Kambas - who vote Raila-Kalonzo then Sonko. I disagree baba is in trouble - this was small stuff - not indicative. Micro - talk macro. He's in top form giving nightmares to our genius hustler.

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Re: Odm and Raila inalimwa Siaya na Nairobi
« Reply #61 on: April 08, 2019, 05:18:58 PM »
Missing in that picture is only Nancy Gitau & Muhoho (Raila emissaries in gov) - Otherwise, you can see standing - Mbugua, Munyambo, Kinyua - and Behind Ruto - you see Ps Kibicho and Matiangi. Ruto need to just knocked out PS Kibicho from Interior - and it's gameshot.

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Re: Odm and Raila inalimwa Siaya na Nairobi
« Reply #62 on: April 08, 2019, 11:30:07 PM »
Babu losing in Emba and Siaya tells you something is really rotten with ODM. I think it is safe to say that even Luos are revolting from within

Wiper played kamba nationalism card - Emba South has lots of Kambas - who vote Raila-Kalonzo then Sonko. I disagree baba is in trouble - this was small stuff - not indicative. Micro - talk macro. He's in top form giving nightmares to our genius hustler.

What about Ugenya
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Re: Odm and Raila inalimwa Siaya na Nairobi
« Reply #63 on: April 09, 2019, 09:20:09 AM »
Scaremongering.Ruto is Dpork and has been co president.Jubilee performance is largely thanks to him because Uhuru is mostly a drubkard

So as co-president Ruto is also responsible for  half of all the mess in jubilee? Or him is only responsible for the few good parts like Huduma centres and TIVET? Anyhow now instead of halting local borrowing and scrapping interest rates caps spread he's now in bed with uhuru supporting huduma number in the guise of supporting SME access credit https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2019-04-07-state-committed-to-growth-of-small-businesses-ruto/
Ruto has been co president until the second term.This is now mostly Uhuru gov.

I agree - Ruto job is to attend funerals.
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Re: Odm and Raila inalimwa Siaya na Nairobi
« Reply #64 on: April 09, 2019, 09:22:51 AM »
You are all over contradicting yourself as usual since the Handshake. "Jubilee is intact" is a major hoax - same as Ruto is visionary. But I doubt you are delusional - it's spin - which is understandable. Emba South is Kamba-dominated - but in 2007 Wiper did not play nationalism card - which is what happened here - Kamba ganged up. Kamba unlike Kikuyu and Luo always split - PORK Raila-Kalonzo - Governor Sonko, etc - which explain why Raila beats Uhuru yet Sonko white-wash Kidero.

You're wrong on Emba - Wiper Kalonzo going by 2017 elections - would have gone head to head with ODM (luos + some luhya & gusiis) - what nicked it for Wiper was Jubilee (read Nairobi GEMA) supporting Wiper candidate. If Jubilee had fielded a candidate - this would have gone head to head like in 2017 - where Sumra lost by few votes. Nairobi always remember is Kikuyu 30%, 15% each (Luo+Luhya+Kamba), 5% each for (Gusii, Kalenjin, Somalis, Merus). 5% everyone else...those percentages vary from place to place...with somalis dominating eastleigh, indians parklands, luhyas westlands, gusii kawangware, Luos- basically runs the other slums - kibra, mathare, baba ndogo, mukurus, kayole - with luhyas - and kikuyus dominate Kasarani & Dandora  & Dagoretti- kambas have sizeable population in Embakasi and most of the slums.

Why did Jubilee stand down in Emba and not in Wajir :) Tafakari hayo. Why didn't Jubilee support ODM's Raila candidate in Emba - but went ahead to support Wiper.

Odinga is getting roasted pole pole bila Kujua. Nasa is getting roasted - Jubilee are still largely intact - while Jubilee has stealthy splintered NASA into 5-10 parties. Playing all of them against each other...while Jubilee are jealous guarding it's unity (ignore old Kamanda and group).

And that is brilliance. Raila is being played like burukenge. He may well overtake MaDVD who was handed PORK for the price of tea and MANDAZI :D somewhere in river road side. Once he had severed links with Raila - it was system go! Uhuru claimed to have been under demonic influence  :D

Fala ingine ni Kalonzo - who was taken round in KKK and ICC rallies - while everyone knew UhuRuto had their own plans.

Wiper played kamba nationalism card - Emba South has lots of Kambas - who vote Raila-Kalonzo then Sonko. I disagree baba is in trouble - this was small stuff - not indicative. Micro - talk macro. He's in top form giving nightmares to our genius hustler.
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Re: Odm and Raila inalimwa Siaya na Nairobi
« Reply #65 on: April 09, 2019, 09:40:30 AM »
Lol - so you have a photo to show Ruto has knocked out Nancy Jezebel - who holds no known role anyhow - talk of desperation. Like you always urge me - stick to objectives - which is actual firing of say Kibicho or demotion of Matiang'i from supervisory committee - de facto PM. As it stands your boy cannot launch GoK projects without Matiang'i approval. Stick to the objects - not photos or lunch at Ruto office.

Missing in that picture is only Nancy Gitau & Muhoho (Raila emissaries in gov) - Otherwise, you can see standing - Mbugua, Munyambo, Kinyua - and Behind Ruto - you see Ps Kibicho and Matiangi. Ruto need to just knocked out PS Kibicho from Interior - and it's gameshot.

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Re: Odm and Raila inalimwa Siaya na Nairobi
« Reply #66 on: April 09, 2019, 10:14:23 AM »
Pundit - This tells you what's happening in Jubilee is real in-fighting Ruto vs Uhuru - and not a choreographed charade. You can argue Ruto is winning or such - but don't lie to yourself about Jubilee unity or Uhuru endorsing Ruto soon.

Why Uhuru is losing grip on Mt Kenya

As President builds bridges, DP Ruto is winning support in his backyard.




https://www.nation.co.ke/news/politics/Uhuru-losing-Mt-Kenya-MPs-to-Ruto/1064-5062788-b27rmi/index.html
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Re: Odm and Raila inalimwa Siaya na Nairobi
« Reply #67 on: April 09, 2019, 10:22:07 AM »
More stormy weather in Punditville - Let us know when you have something useful - other than usual spin  :)

Kieleweke, Tanga Tanga gear up for bare-knuckle fight

TUESDAY APRIL 9 2019



https://www.nation.co.ke/news/politics/Kieleweke--Tanga-Tanga-gear-up-for-fight/1064-5062548-kmxi1s/index.html
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Re: Odm and Raila inalimwa Siaya na Nairobi
« Reply #68 on: April 09, 2019, 10:25:34 AM »
Babu losing in Emba and Siaya tells you something is really rotten with ODM. I think it is safe to say that even Luos are revolting from within

Wiper played kamba nationalism card - Emba South has lots of Kambas - who vote Raila-Kalonzo then Sonko. I disagree baba is in trouble - this was small stuff - not indicative. Micro - talk macro. He's in top form giving nightmares to our genius hustler.

What about Ugenya

The winner and loser were strong Baba adherents - at least on the campaign trail. It's only after winning that you hear about Ruto effect - money, etc - and not before - cause it's suicidal to mention Ruto in a Luo election.
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Re: Odm and Raila inalimwa Siaya na Nairobi
« Reply #69 on: April 09, 2019, 12:08:18 PM »
Kibicho has already failed in his first project.They have been pleading for Ruto to register and Ruto just did that..and numbers will rise drastically.This is failure akin to Tuju mismanaging jubilee nomination and Ruto stepping in to steer it.

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Re: Odm and Raila inalimwa Siaya na Nairobi
« Reply #70 on: April 09, 2019, 12:23:37 PM »
More incoherent spin - take a deep breath - get yourself together. "Kibicho is incompetent" - who doesn't know this little irrelevant detail? Ruto deliberately botched Jubilee primaries - as smokescreen to execute mlolongo. Very successful - followed by the clean sweep in parliament - and got Uhuru seriously rattled. Ruto got his cronies and groupies & choirboys lined up in Jubilee - while Uhuru the dimwit slept - which is why Uhuru is battling him now - to snatch the meat from the hyena mouth. If Ruto had a firm grip on Gema grassroot and elsewhere - he would not be breathless and so sweaty. But he knows Gema elite don't trust him - and are using graft to prep the ground for the ultimate assault - airing Kiambaa videos.

Kibicho has already failed in his first project.They have been pleading for Ruto to register and Ruto just did that..and numbers will rise drastically.This is failure akin to Tuju mismanaging jubilee nomination and Ruto stepping in to steer it.
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Re: Odm and Raila inalimwa Siaya na Nairobi
« Reply #71 on: April 09, 2019, 01:27:39 PM »
Dr Ruto will be appearing on Citizen TV - I hope you tune in to hear the next Kenya president. Uhuru already called for a truce - when he walked himself to Ruto's office - and sought peace. You can see ever since the vibe in Ruto camp is positive. Uhuru is not a fool - he knows any war with Ruto - is a declaration of war btw Kalenjin and Kikuyus - and that will basically soil his great legacy - if not take Kenya down a disastrous path. Kikuyu kiamba grievances pale in comparison with Kalenjin land grievance & ambition to reclaim the lost land. Why open old healing wounds. Already Kibicho has seen Ruto's political muscle when RVs stayed away from Huduma thing until they get a signal from Ruto. You don't want to mess with youth bulge in RV by instigating a war. Don't do it. The jobless Kalenjin youths don't need to be paid or organize to blunder and chase kikuyus from RV - and steal their cows & goats.And for what - so he can be Raila's benefactor? Is there any more stupid reasoning like this.

Why would I be incoherent or desperate when Ruto is sleepwalking to PORK? When his main competitor is the perenial loser Raila who has completely destroyed his party - has completely destroyed the relationship with maDVD, Kalonzo and Wetangula :). Maybe Gideon Moi will help him get 2.1% of Kalenjin vote - although we KNOW - MOis and Kenyattas - can NEVER TRUST an Odinga.

Where is this man or woman that will beat Ruto in 2022?

More incoherent spin - take a deep breath - get yourself together. "Kibicho is incompetent" - who doesn't know this little irrelevant detail? Ruto deliberately botched Jubilee primaries - as smokescreen to execute mlolongo. Very successful - followed by the clean sweep in parliament - and got Uhuru seriously rattled. Ruto got his cronies and groupies & choirboys lined up in Jubilee - while Uhuru the dimwit slept - which is why Uhuru is battling him now - to snatch the meat from the hyena mouth. If Ruto had a firm grip on Gema grassroot and elsewhere - he would not be breathless and so sweaty. But he knows Gema elite don't trust him - and are using graft to prep the ground for the ultimate assault - airing Kiambaa videos.

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Re: Odm and Raila inalimwa Siaya na Nairobi
« Reply #72 on: April 09, 2019, 02:09:10 PM »
You are desperate for plastering photos of SH or Ruto office lunch meeting - as evidence of Uhuru surrender or detente. Weka kitu objective - like a demotion or firing? How has Uhuru surrendered when Matiang'i still has Ruto's job? Eh? Ati Annex lunch? - sorry i didn't get that.

ODM and NASA are intact. Apart from the scorned Rectangular - who was sucked by Raila as Minority Leader - and has since come back to the fold - any evidence of NASA or ODM in-fighting? Only Aisha Jumwa - even Dori ran back to Baba's warm bossom - despite Ruto allegedly taking over Mijikenda. Yet we have actual news & videos - of open matusi and shenanigans - of civil war in Jubilee. But we hear Jubilee is united, NASA & ODM is divided... even spin requires intelligence.

Dr Ruto will be appearing on Citizen TV - I hope you tune in to hear the next Kenya president. Uhuru already called for a truce - when he walked himself to Ruto's office - and sought peace. You can see ever since the vibe in Ruto camp is positive. Uhuru is not a fool - he knows any war with Ruto - is a declaration of war btw Kalenjin and Kikuyus - and that will basically soil his great legacy - if not take Kenya down a disastrous path. Kikuyu kiamba grievances pale in comparison with Kalenjin land grievance & ambition to reclaim the lost land. Why open old healing wounds. Already Kibicho has seen Ruto's political muscle when RVs stayed away from Huduma thing until they get a signal from Ruto. You don't want to mess with youth bulge in RV by instigating a war. Don't do it. The jobless Kalenjin youths don't need to be paid or organize to blunder and chase kikuyus from RV - and steal their cows & goats.And for what - so he can be Raila's benefactor? Is there any more stupid reasoning like this.

Why would I be incoherent or desperate when Ruto is sleepwalking to PORK? When his main competitor is the perenial loser Raila who has completely destroyed his party - has completely destroyed the relationship with maDVD, Kalonzo and Wetangula :). Maybe Gideon Moi will help him get 2.1% of Kalenjin vote - although we KNOW - MOis and Kenyattas - can NEVER TRUST an Odinga.

Where is this man or woman that will beat Ruto in 2022?
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Re: Odm and Raila inalimwa Siaya na Nairobi
« Reply #73 on: April 09, 2019, 02:13:23 PM »
Where is this man or woman that will beat Ruto in 2022?

It's 2019, not 2021. Do this - when a credible poll shows Ruto leading - say 40% v Raila 20% - ululate and present it here. For now the record shows - Ruto is only leading as the most corrupt Kenya & African - with 70% landslide.
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Re: Odm and Raila inalimwa Siaya na Nairobi
« Reply #74 on: April 09, 2019, 02:38:06 PM »
I think I am dealing with a juvenile. Let give it time. Time as always will tell who is right and wrong.
You are desperate for plastering photos of SH or Ruto office lunch meeting - as evidence of Uhuru surrender or detente. Weka kitu objective - like a demotion or firing? How has Uhuru surrendered when Matiang'i still has Ruto's job? Eh? Ati Annex lunch? - sorry i didn't get that.

ODM and NASA are intact. Apart from the scorned Rectangular - who was sucked by Raila as Minority Leader - and has since come back to the fold - any evidence of NASA or ODM in-fighting? Only Aisha Jumwa - even Dori ran back to Baba's warm bossom - despite Ruto allegedly taking over Mijikenda. Yet we have actual news & videos - of open matusi and shenanigans - of civil war in Jubilee. But we hear Jubilee is united, NASA & ODM is divided... even spin requires intelligence.

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Re: Odm and Raila inalimwa Siaya na Nairobi
« Reply #75 on: April 09, 2019, 02:41:06 PM »
Ruto leads 2022 presidential polls as Raila comes fourth: IPSOS

Where is this man or woman that will beat Ruto in 2022?

It's 2019, not 2021. Do this - when a credible poll shows Ruto leading - say 40% v Raila 20% - ululate and present it here. For now the record shows - Ruto is only leading as the most corrupt Kenya & African - with 70% landslide.

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« Reply #76 on: April 09, 2019, 02:57:29 PM »
Meaning you have nothing objective except spin - about dark forces misleading Uhuru.

I think I am dealing with a juvenile. Let give it time. Time as always will tell who is right and wrong.
You are desperate for plastering photos of SH or Ruto office lunch meeting - as evidence of Uhuru surrender or detente. Weka kitu objective - like a demotion or firing? How has Uhuru surrendered when Matiang'i still has Ruto's job? Eh? Ati Annex lunch? - sorry i didn't get that.

ODM and NASA are intact. Apart from the scorned Rectangular - who was sucked by Raila as Minority Leader - and has since come back to the fold - any evidence of NASA or ODM in-fighting? Only Aisha Jumwa - even Dori ran back to Baba's warm bossom - despite Ruto allegedly taking over Mijikenda. Yet we have actual news & videos - of open matusi and shenanigans - of civil war in Jubilee. But we hear Jubilee is united, NASA & ODM is divided... even spin requires intelligence.
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Re: Odm and Raila inalimwa Siaya na Nairobi
« Reply #77 on: April 09, 2019, 02:57:42 PM »
You wish.

Ruto leads 2022 presidential polls as Raila comes fourth: IPSOS

Where is this man or woman that will beat Ruto in 2022?

It's 2019, not 2021. Do this - when a credible poll shows Ruto leading - say 40% v Raila 20% - ululate and present it here. For now the record shows - Ruto is only leading as the most corrupt Kenya & African - with 70% landslide.
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Re: Odm and Raila inalimwa Siaya na Nairobi
« Reply #78 on: April 09, 2019, 03:08:10 PM »
Where is this man or woman that will beat Ruto in 2022?

It's 2019, not 2021. Do this - when a credible poll shows Ruto leading - say 40% v Raila 20% - ululate and present it here. For now the record shows - Ruto is only leading as the most corrupt Kenya & African - with 70% landslide.

Yeppers.  Way too early.  And if Raila is the eventual rival, he has no need to sell himself two years in advance.  He is a known quantity(with national heft).  Right now the focus is on "fighting corruption"  :D.
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Re: Odm and Raila inalimwa Siaya na Nairobi
« Reply #79 on: April 09, 2019, 08:36:58 PM »
Where is this man or woman that will beat Ruto in 2022?

It's 2019, not 2021. Do this - when a credible poll shows Ruto leading - say 40% v Raila 20% - ululate and present it here. For now the record shows - Ruto is only leading as the most corrupt Kenya & African - with 70% landslide.

Yeppers.  Way too early.  And if Raila is the eventual rival, he has no need to sell himself two years in advance.  He is a known quantity(with national heft).  Right now the focus is on "fighting corruption"  :D.

We have a solo candidate running breathless helter-skelter all over... and this we are told means he is sleepwalking to victory. I'm tempted to check what "sleepwalking" means  :D

The irony is the perceived archival is sitting pretty - I really need to google that word.
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