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Re: Pundit won't like this
« Reply #60 on: April 04, 2019, 04:43:32 PM »
Suppose he enjoys that support, how is it going to help him past IEBC and servers?  :D

 :D :D :D :D :D :D
Mind you those servers are abroad and nobody knows when the server operators wake up. :D :D :D

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Re: Pundit won't like this
« Reply #61 on: April 04, 2019, 04:49:52 PM »
Nobody can rig Ruto - if Raila already swore himself people president - Ruto will swear himself the real president. I don't think you understand the kind of punch Ruto backs - backed by warriors drawn from Kalenjin all the way to Alshabaab...hapo utaona moto kubwa kenya inaweza pazuka...Jeshi imepasuke...police imapasuke..and Kenya will have two or  more countries.

Ruto ni moto ya kuotea mbala. Sio Jaluo ya kurusha mawe mbili.

Where? In Eldoret? :D :D :D :D
The man has no power base outside RV. Mind you the war will only be in RV. All other places will be as if nothing happened. Those madoa madoas in RV would have smelt the coffee much in advance and I can assure you, this time they will be prepared and the weak evacuated. We will see the revival of Maina Njenga with his infamous Mungiki.

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Re: Pundit won't like this
« Reply #62 on: April 04, 2019, 04:52:40 PM »
I don't buy the war claims for one minute. Ruto aint daft. He knows very well he escaped ICC because GOK was not co-operative. Attempting the 2007 shenanigans with GOK as your enemy after going through the ICC roller coaster ride is a bad move. This time, GEMA won't have one of their own in trouble and GOK will co-operate 130%. No one is doing PEV again in Kenya, my friends. Hizo ni ndoto. Using Al-Shabaab and other terrorists will also have the rest of the world on your back. I repeat: Ruto ain't daft. His fanatics may be willing to risk all but I doubt Ruto is. These are internet theories.

What the war claims reveal is a grudging acknowledgement that the walk in the park fantasy is now readily apparent even to those previously in denial.  There is one man who can buck the system and still shake things up.  Unfortunately that man is now working with the system.
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Re: Pundit won't like this
« Reply #63 on: April 04, 2019, 05:54:50 PM »
Bwana RVPundit, please take your time to internalise your Man-Ruto's loss of grip. It is his insatiable greed (itchy fingers) and hubris that has done him in. Pole sana ndugu, take your time.... It happens, depression, anger, disenchantment and even suicidal moods set in. Don't take it personally, after all he wasn't going to bring you into the eating trough, if we are to go by your numerous protestations.

We must debunk this nonsense of your invicible Kalenjin warriors (KW); they will go nowhere with the rest of Kenya ranged against them. They are nothing and the prowess you tout and spew hear every day is just an empty boast. I come from around the epicenter of the 2007 PEV and the KW's had the first mover advantage (surprise attack). Once the Kikuyus and others who were not amused with that violence organised themselves, the warriors were mince meat and many were mawed down....I saw many so called KW's running helter skelter with no real war game plan, cornered and hacked to death. They were just an excitable lot running around with arrows and torching people's houses.

Once the the cops/AP's were brought into the mix, even those cops who were pro-opposition had to heshimu amri and told those young fellows to calm their excitement. Then of course once the army at Maili Tisa, Moi Barracks were called into the fray your warriors retreated back to their cral. Mark you Kibaki was not in control, the election was being stolen for him by people with unfinished business and vested interest who didn't want him to let go and he came into it and had no choice but run along with it. What will you do with a commander-in-chief who is in on the game; ready and alert and is running this scheme with full awareness? My friend don't joke with the state which is the wielder of violence. Please don't take us back there Mr. And I can give you a 1000% assurance that if Ruto wins and is rigged out (or not), they won't try that nonsense!

Finally sir, let us do Kenya together; i find it immoral to justify theft that you so casually do. Thieving and so called eating isn't a moral guide that we should live by. As it is Uhuru and Ruto have been a massive disappointment and huge let down. What with all that talk about the youth taking Kenya to the next level! It has been the worst and most plunderous regime in Kenya's history. It behoves Kenyans who really care and want something of this nation to start expressing themselves and socialising in the minds of fellow Kenyans a new Kenya that can really thrive and achieve enormous success if well directed. Let us do it together...you and I; not the tin-gods Ruto, Uhuru or Raila. I am doing my bit in however little way, do yours as well.

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Re: Pundit won't like this
« Reply #64 on: April 04, 2019, 06:03:39 PM »
ICC is dead and buried. Today, it is just another shell talkshop INGO thanks to Uhuru and Ruto.  Kikuyus in Nairobi slums and Murang'a keep talking of 'being ready' all over in bars and online, yet can't face to small gaza boys or quails when these weak youngings are taking their phones or breaking into their houses. Have seen quite many run and never speak for a week after a mugging except o Facebook post  here and there.

Cannibalistic Raila and his naive minions like Orengo will start talking about taking makanga Sudi to the Hague just like the moronic impeachment hook which has left them gasping for air even before throwing it!!

The hordes of young men all over Central whose vibandas/livelihoods are being demolished after handshake just need subtle continuous  incitement against mama ngina and his boys and they will not know what hit them even before 2022. They will soon be trying to explain how they acquired their vast land while these Mau Maus are roaming the streets homeless. How it is only their family businesses booming and not the vibandas?
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Re: Pundit won't like this
« Reply #65 on: April 04, 2019, 06:43:43 PM »
Tell them gout....people in Centro are woke, they see what kenyatta family criminal enterprise means to them. Time to remind mama Ngina she never sheltered or provided land for IDP.  Raila +uhuru  + gedion moi vs Hussle Nation, 2022 should be a walk in the park for Ruto and Hussle nation.

ICC is dead and buried. Today, it is just another shell talkshop INGO thanks to Uhuru and Ruto.  Kikuyus in Nairobi slums and Murang'a keep talking of 'being ready' all over in bars and online, yet can't face to small gaza boys or quails when these weak youngings are taking their phones or breaking into their houses. Have seen quite many run and never speak for a week after a mugging except o Facebook post  here and there.

Cannibalistic Raila and his naive minions like Orengo will start talking about taking makanga Sudi to the Hague just like the moronic impeachment hook which has left them gasping for air even before throwing it!!

The hordes of young men all over Central whose vibandas/livelihoods are being demolished after handshake just need subtle continuous  incitement against mama ngina and his boys and they will not know what hit them even before 2022. They will soon be trying to explain how they acquired their vast land while these Mau Maus are roaming the streets homeless. How it is only their family businesses booming and not the vibandas?

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Re: Pundit won't like this
« Reply #66 on: April 04, 2019, 08:43:39 PM »
Pragmatic, I thank God for main stream leadership refusal to fund warriors and arm them with modern weapons despite false accusationss.Kalenjin war infrastructure is incredible.I have first hand experience.In 92 and 07.Only Kalenjin in pre colonial times didn't live in villages or manyattas or towns.Every Kalenjin lived in this large farm confident of his security if anybody ever  dared attacked.NandisBrits more than 10yrs of armed resistance..before they had beaten Arabs and all tribes.
I.. Kalenjin were unbeatable..for like 200yrs..Maasai were bad arse before that.Armed pokot remain unbeatable even by kdf..that small tribe.Sdlf beat gsu and aps..and army had to alled it.Those are fringes tribes.Arm kipsigis,nandi,keiyo and tugen with modern weapons...and Kenya is history.Ruto now is capable of doing that.With bows and arrows.. Kalenjin can kick all major tribes like 92 without asweat.Next time scream icc..but Kalenjin has centuries perfected war machine.The police has no hope if Kalenjin were to use modern rifles.Keep it arrows for we all love Kenya.Moi knew this.We know from Pokot or even cowardly sabaot.Keep it arrows.The day Kalenjin mainstream arm themselves with modern weapon..Kenya is history.Kalenjin are as war prepared as Isrealis.They know what,who and whatever need to done when war is declared..it's systems go.I was barely 10yrs when I saw it in 92... everything suddenly changed .. everybody knew what they need to do...within a hour of war cry...that went ridge to ridge for 200kms... school got closed..every man armed himself moved to certain a point..all women went to prepare food and place them on road... nobody talks..you know if you were to walk on left or right side of the road and whole shebang.Its incredulous.Within few hours our school compound was hosting thousands of armed men...all silent.The war cry itself is an art...of communication...how it's coordinated is amazing...it never become aimless noise...the first woman to pick it up in this ridge knows what to say...attack xyx attack xyz..then next ridge pick it. Kalenjin are trained in these stuff....every year.At end of day there is a reason why Kalenjin are world beaters..in althetics.. or cattle rustling... incredible discipline, coordination and execution

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Re: Pundit won't like this
« Reply #67 on: April 04, 2019, 09:36:31 PM »
That's a nice history book. Anyway wake us up when Uhuru or Raila gets scared of your warriors. Especially Raila politically gains from any RV v diaspora war - real or imaginary.
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Re: Pundit won't like this
« Reply #68 on: April 04, 2019, 09:47:44 PM »
That's a nice history book. Anyway wake us up when Uhuru or Raila gets scared of your warriors. Especially Raila politically gains from any RV v diaspora war - real or imaginary.

I know this is redundant, but wake me up when IEBC pays attention to warriors :D.
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Re: Pundit won't like this
« Reply #69 on: April 05, 2019, 02:01:08 AM »
Off course however Ruto has deep support in Gema land mainly women. Women in centro want to know why uhuru and his family want to finish Ruto the same man who saved them from Raila jaws....
Those are paid hecklers.  Waititu of course has pocketed most of "their" money.
Why are they not there instead of the paid hecklers?

If you want to know paid hecklers just check that they are all young and male - see this URP crew. You won't spot a random countrytown spectacle like in that Kamanda groove you shared. Kenyan journalists are too daft or compromised to poke them out. Desperate times.

In the meantime Ruto preps URP... Jubilee iko na mwenyewe.


The return of URP as Ruto allies go yellow

TUESDAY APRIL 2 2019


Some of the young men who turned up to welcome Deputy President William Ruto in Banana, Kiambu County,
on Sunday. Governors Ferdinand Waititu (Kiambu) and Joseph Lenku (Kajiado) were among the leaders at the service.
PHOTO | ERIC WAINAINA | NATION MEDIA GROUP


https://www.nation.co.ke/news/politics/return-of-URP--Ruto-allies-go-yellow/1064-5052228-ejksh7z/index.html
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Re: Pundit won't like this
« Reply #70 on: April 05, 2019, 06:57:43 AM »
IEBC didn't rig Raila.ECK did.The kind of systems in place makes rigging improbable.Raila lost.Uhuru won by same margin as MOASS.

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Re: Pundit won't like this
« Reply #71 on: April 05, 2019, 07:26:41 AM »
Raila won 2007, 2013 nobody knows who won without ballot stuffing that thing would have gone to round 2. 2017 Raila won hands down otherwise there would be no need to kill msando plus uhuru would have results released from constituency level. Truth shall set us free.
IEBC didn't rig Raila.ECK did.The kind of systems in place makes rigging improbable.Raila lost.Uhuru won by same margin as MOASS.

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Re: Pundit won't like this
« Reply #72 on: April 05, 2019, 09:00:28 AM »
Don't soil the nipate body of works. It's our political bible. Learn to be dishonest sometime.

Raila won 2007, 2013 nobody knows who won without ballot stuffing that thing would have gone to round 2. 2017 Raila won hands down otherwise there would be no need to kill msando plus uhuru would have results released from constituency level. Truth shall set us free.
IEBC didn't rig Raila.ECK did.The kind of systems in place makes rigging improbable.Raila lost.Uhuru won by same margin as MOASS.
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« Reply #73 on: April 05, 2019, 09:18:56 AM »
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Re: Pundit won't like this
« Reply #74 on: April 05, 2019, 10:04:42 AM »
Bwana Pragmatic, you are preaching to an atheist. Pundit does not care about the fate of Kenya. He only has his Kalejin people in mind. Unfortunately we have a generation 50 years after independence that is even more tribilised than their parents. Even having married a Meru, Pundit still preaches ukabila no no other on this forum.

Bwana RVPundit, please take your time to internalise your Man-Ruto's loss of grip. It is his insatiable greed (itchy fingers) and hubris that has done him in. Pole sana ndugu, take your time.... It happens, depression, anger, disenchantment and even suicidal moods set in. Don't take it personally, after all he wasn't going to bring you into the eating trough, if we are to go by your numerous protestations.

We must debunk this nonsense of your invicible Kalenjin warriors (KW); they will go nowhere with the rest of Kenya ranged against them. They are nothing and the prowess you tout and spew hear every day is just an empty boast. I come from around the epicenter of the 2007 PEV and the KW's had the first mover advantage (surprise attack). Once the Kikuyus and others who were not amused with that violence organised themselves, the warriors were mince meat and many were mawed down....I saw many so called KW's running helter skelter with no real war game plan, cornered and hacked to death. They were just an excitable lot running around with arrows and torching people's houses.

Once the the cops/AP's were brought into the mix, even those cops who were pro-opposition had to heshimu amri and told those young fellows to calm their excitement. Then of course once the army at Maili Tisa, Moi Barracks were called into the fray your warriors retreated back to their cral. Mark you Kibaki was not in control, the election was being stolen for him by people with unfinished business and vested interest who didn't want him to let go and he came into it and had no choice but run along with it. What will you do with a commander-in-chief who is in on the game; ready and alert and is running this scheme with full awareness? My friend don't joke with the state which is the wielder of violence. Please don't take us back there Mr. And I can give you a 1000% assurance that if Ruto wins and is rigged out (or not), they won't try that nonsense!

Finally sir, let us do Kenya together; i find it immoral to justify theft that you so casually do. Thieving and so called eating isn't a moral guide that we should live by. As it is Uhuru and Ruto have been a massive disappointment and huge let down. What with all that talk about the youth taking Kenya to the next level! It has been the worst and most plunderous regime in Kenya's history. It behoves Kenyans who really care and want something of this nation to start expressing themselves and socialising in the minds of fellow Kenyans a new Kenya that can really thrive and achieve enormous success if well directed. Let us do it together...you and I; not the tin-gods Ruto, Uhuru or Raila. I am doing my bit in however little way, do yours as well.

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Re: Pundit won't like this
« Reply #75 on: April 05, 2019, 10:09:33 AM »
You are missing the point. Did the youth in Central just realise the other day that Mama Ngina never provided land to the IDP of 2007 or that the Kenyatta family is a criminal enterprise? Any one who believes Ruto is any different from Jomo Kenyatta or Moi is day dreaming. Ruto's aim to to accumulate more than the Kenyatta's and Moi's did in the last 50 years. Give him that top seat in 2022 and you will see where he will be in 2032 and Kenya will be a basket case worse than it is already today.

Tell them gout....people in Centro are woke, they see what kenyatta family criminal enterprise means to them. Time to remind mama Ngina she never sheltered or provided land for IDP.  Raila +uhuru  + gedion moi vs Hussle Nation, 2022 should be a walk in the park for Ruto and Hussle nation.

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Re: Pundit won't like this
« Reply #76 on: April 05, 2019, 12:20:39 PM »
Raila won 2007, 2013 nobody knows who won without ballot stuffing that thing would have gone to round 2. 2017 Raila won hands down otherwise there would be no need to kill msando plus uhuru would have results released from constituency level. Truth shall set us free.
IEBC didn't rig Raila.ECK did.The kind of systems in place makes rigging improbable.Raila lost.Uhuru won by same margin as MOASS.

The real clincher?  They changed the election rules after Maraga ruling.  So now the electronic component is allowed to fail.  I believe URP was left, right and center of this particular effort.
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« Reply #77 on: April 05, 2019, 12:32:16 PM »
Kenya is a state - not nation - it will take another 200-500yrs for it to gell into a nation. Kenya has many tribal nations. Kenya still sits comfortably in the Failed Index or Fragile State Index - because of lots of group/tribal grievances which could boil over if mismanaged like in 2007. Ruto now has the ability to destabilize the Kenya state - if he wanted. That is political leverage I am talking about. I am a patriotic citizen of Kenya - but I do recognize it's still an idea at its infancy. Its just 100yrs. Let's be patient with it.
Bwana Pragmatic, you are preaching to an atheist. Pundit does not care about the fate of Kenya. He only has his Kalejin people in mind. Unfortunately we have a generation 50 years after independence that is even more tribilised than their parents. Even having married a Meru, Pundit still preaches ukabila no no other on this forum.

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Re: Pundit won't like this
« Reply #78 on: April 05, 2019, 03:07:09 PM »
Bwana Pragmatic, you are preaching to an atheist. Pundit does not care about the fate of Kenya. He only has his Kalejin people in mind. Unfortunately we have a generation 50 years after independence that is even more tribilised than their parents. Even having married a Meru, Pundit still preaches ukabila no no other on this forum.

He also projects it on everyone: if I have the vice, everyone does. If my motive is tribalism, everyone else's must be too  :D

As for Patel, he suffered deeply from the handshake. It's the only explanation why anyone sane would entertain the crazy notion that Ruto is some kind of anti-impunity, anti-establishment force  :D. Ruto is worse! Not because of the insatiable looting but because of the backward dictatorial instincts, desires, and designs that his followers were proudly preaching and heralding here during the last elections and when Ruto's relationship with GEMA looked settled. That makes me literally prefer Muhoho taking over in a dynastic way than bwana Kagame-wannabe getting that position.

At least we know happless Kamwana and his greedy family only like the perks of power and theft, not really interested in authoritarianism. In addition, Kamwana at leat is interested in getting a handle on the corruption before the whole thing collapses on him and there's nothing left to loot anymore. These other guys talk as if Kenya is Santa's bottomless sack of presents: They can just keep taking without any break and some magical force in the ether will prevent it all from collapsing in on itself.

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Re: Pundit won't like this
« Reply #79 on: April 05, 2019, 03:32:40 PM »
Kamama..I will let that slide coz you're fasting and we will resume when your fake Jesus resurrect on Good Monday.Dont be afraid to say your Raila card carrying member.I like arguing with Kichwa coz he said he is honest and doesn't shadow box like many Railettes.