Testimony of Wambui Mwangi

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Credit:Story as Narrated and written by Wambui.

[gout]

This nonsense of god this god that in such situations leaves so many gaps in picking small details which can unlock such cases. Instead of praying can you hear whether the thugs when calling are talking of place names such as the ATMs where they are withdrawing cash from? Are they using police talk -crew, afande? When an opening such as Wambui wife coincidence comes can you probe further tactfully - after all you are a journalist. Four hours and you only tell us about god this god that!!

Religion has really dumbed down our knowledge seeking behaviours.

[RV Pundit]

Precisely.I think what save people in such situation is not god - but a bit of luck and utmost cooperation with the thugs once they have you.

This nonsense of god this god that in such situations leaves so many gaps in picking small details which can unlock such cases. Instead of praying can you hear whether the thugs when calling are talking of place names such as the ATMs where they are withdrawing cash from? Are they using police talk -crew, afande? When an opening such as Wambui wife coincidence comes can you probe further tactfully - after all you are a journalist. Four hours and you only tell us about god this god that!!

Religion has really dumbed down our knowledge seeking behaviours.

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

This nonsense of god this god that in such situations leaves so many gaps in picking small details which can unlock such cases. Instead of praying can you hear whether the thugs when calling are talking of place names such as the ATMs where they are withdrawing cash from? Are they using police talk -crew, afande? When an opening such as Wambui wife coincidence comes can you probe further tactfully - after all you are a journalist. Four hours and you only tell us about god this god that!!

Religion has really dumbed down our knowledge seeking behaviours.

It depends on the thugs.  If they are religious, it might work with them.  The key to survival is to find a way to make your survival compatible with the heist they are carrying out.

[GeeMail]

This is a case where the journalist knows she owes her life to God. Those who were not there have no business offering an alternative universe in which godlessness saves a person's skin in such harrowing circumstances. It might be more worthwhile telling us how Jubilee's employment programs are helping prevent graduate engineers from engaging in crime.

[gout]

Criminals are criminals no matter such factors. Even popes! Presidents! Priests! Nuns! have over history been proven to be hardcore criminals.

Joblessness is usually a simplistic theory on explaining crime. No matter how many jobs Ruto has, he is a hardcore criminal (even if he was a teleevangelist he would be a thug just like Kanyaris or Ng'ang'as). No matter how much Kenyattas, Odingas, Mois accumulate primitive they remain hardcore thugs stealing at any chance!

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

Criminals are criminals no matter such factors. Even popes! Presidents! Priests! Nuns! have over history been proven to be hardcore criminals.

Joblessness is usually a simplistic theory on explaining crime. No matter how many jobs Ruto has, he is a hardcore criminal (even if he was a teleevangelist he would be a thug just like Kanyaris or Ng'ang'as). No matter how much Kenyattas, Odingas, Mois accumulate primitive they remain hardcore thugs stealing at any chance!

I think the absence of legitimate options does create criminals from people who would otherwise not be criminals.  Our kind engineer in the story seems like he would sooner take up gainful employment in Silicon Valley, if he could, than go around frisking terrified women for ATM cards, just to feed his kids.

The same logic could also explain the Rutos, Mobutus and others.  In another place they may be Vanderbilts, Henry Ford etc.  Exceptions of course include folks like the Trump family who seem to have only made it by cutting very rough corners in the land of opportunity.

[audacityofhope]

Criminals are criminals no matter such factors. Even popes! Presidents! Priests! Nuns! have over history been proven to be hardcore criminals.

Joblessness is usually a simplistic theory on explaining crime. No matter how many jobs Ruto has, he is a hardcore criminal (even if he was a teleevangelist he would be a thug just like Kanyaris or Ng'ang'as). No matter how much Kenyattas, Odingas, Mois accumulate primitive they remain hardcore thugs stealing at any chance!

https://hivisasa.com/posts/1050-when-uhurus-mother-refused-to-sell-land-to-mzee-kenyatta

[veritas]

Incredible. Amazing.

[audacityofhope]

Incredible right, when the thieves despite living under the same roof are not sharing their databases

[Kichwa]

While studying 'the concubine" by Elechi Amadi, in High School, we learned to accept different explanations about life happenings. Scientific explanations are very recent. Just like Africans accepted many gods, they also accept many paradigms of explaining or understanding the world.  For example, when a luo person dies in a car accident,  the luo people do not dispute the scientific explanation of the cause of death, they just offer another explanations which is not contradictory to the scientific explanation.  Christians can also do the same.  Yes, Wambui's cooperation with the thieves saved her her life, but why does that have to be the only explanation, why can't her Christian faith explanation of why her life was spared be dismissed just because you do not share her faith. I think Wambui understands that her cooperation was key to her survival, but she gives credit also to her Christian faith, teachings, discipline for making it possible to be hopeful and therefore cooperative with the thieves.  Let us not be narrow mindedly scientific.

Precisely.I think what save people in such situation is not god - but a bit of luck and utmost cooperation with the thugs once they have you.

This nonsense of god this god that in such situations leaves so many gaps in picking small details which can unlock such cases. Instead of praying can you hear whether the thugs when calling are talking of place names such as the ATMs where they are withdrawing cash from? Are they using police talk -crew, afande? When an opening such as Wambui wife coincidence comes can you probe further tactfully - after all you are a journalist. Four hours and you only tell us about god this god that!!

Religion has really dumbed down our knowledge seeking behaviours.

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

While studying 'the concubine" by Elechi Amadi, in High School, we learned to accept different explanations about life happenings. Scientific explanations are very recent. Just like Africans accepted many gods, they also accept many paradigms of explaining or understanding the world.  For example, when a luo person dies in a car accident,  the luo people do not dispute the scientific explanation of the cause of death, they just offer another explanations which is not contradictory to the scientific explanation.  Christians can also do the same.  Yes, Wambui's cooperation with the thieves saved her her life, but why does that have to be the only explanation, why can't her Christian faith explanation of why her life was spared be dismissed just because you do not share her faith. I think Wambui understands that her cooperation was key to her survival, but she gives credit also to her Christian faith, teachings, discipline for making it possible to be hopeful and therefore cooperative with the thieves.  Let us not be narrow mindedly scientific.

Precisely.I think what save people in such situation is not god - but a bit of luck and utmost cooperation with the thugs once they have you.

This nonsense of god this god that in such situations leaves so many gaps in picking small details which can unlock such cases. Instead of praying can you hear whether the thugs when calling are talking of place names such as the ATMs where they are withdrawing cash from? Are they using police talk -crew, afande? When an opening such as Wambui wife coincidence comes can you probe further tactfully - after all you are a journalist. Four hours and you only tell us about god this god that!!

Religion has really dumbed down our knowledge seeking behaviours.

[Kichwa]

While studying 'the concubine" by Elechi Amadi, in High School, we learned to accept different explanations about life happenings. Scientific explanations are very recent. Just like Africans accepted many gods, they also accept many paradigms of explaining or understanding the world.  For example, when a luo person dies in a car accident,  the luo people do not dispute the scientific explanation of the cause of death, they just offer another explanations which is not contradictory to the scientific explanation.  Christians can also do the same.  Yes, Wambui's cooperation with the thieves saved her her life, but why does that have to be the only explanation, why can't her Christian faith explanation of why her life was spared be dismissed just because you do not share her faith. I think Wambui understands that her cooperation was key to her survival, but she gives credit also to her Christian faith, teachings, discipline for making it possible to be hopeful and therefore cooperative with the thieves.  Let us not be narrow mindedly scientific.

Precisely.I think what save people in such situation is not god - but a bit of luck and utmost cooperation with the thugs once they have you.

This nonsense of god this god that in such situations leaves so many gaps in picking small details which can unlock such cases. Instead of praying can you hear whether the thugs when calling are talking of place names such as the ATMs where they are withdrawing cash from? Are they using police talk -crew, afande? When an opening such as Wambui wife coincidence comes can you probe further tactfully - after all you are a journalist. Four hours and you only tell us about god this god that!!

Religion has really dumbed down our knowledge seeking behaviours.

I think human beings intuitively dichotomize the spiritual world and the scientific world  and the concern that people will be confused is unfounded and unsupported by any evidence. The fact that a drunk driver is praying not to be caught is proof that they know that if they are caught, there will be no excuse either in law or in christian belief where praying before commiting a sin does not absolve one from the sin.  Some Pilots or astraunauts pray before they take off,  some Surgeons pray before they perform complex surgeries and when the flight or the operation goes well they can  give credit to both their due diligence, intelligence and scientific training or to their ritualistic religious discipline, without any contradiction.  Human beings are able to naturally decompartmentalize  the spirutual world and the world of physical science and rarely confuse them or find them mutually exclusively. Its the norm for most people to operate seamlessly between these two worlds and I am yet to see someone who is totally confused of which world they are operating in at any given time.  My Problem is with those who insist that we have to pick one or the other.

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

While studying 'the concubine" by Elechi Amadi, in High School, we learned to accept different explanations about life happenings. Scientific explanations are very recent. Just like Africans accepted many gods, they also accept many paradigms of explaining or understanding the world.  For example, when a luo person dies in a car accident,  the luo people do not dispute the scientific explanation of the cause of death, they just offer another explanations which is not contradictory to the scientific explanation.  Christians can also do the same.  Yes, Wambui's cooperation with the thieves saved her her life, but why does that have to be the only explanation, why can't her Christian faith explanation of why her life was spared be dismissed just because you do not share her faith. I think Wambui understands that her cooperation was key to her survival, but she gives credit also to her Christian faith, teachings, discipline for making it possible to be hopeful and therefore cooperative with the thieves.  Let us not be narrow mindedly scientific.

Precisely.I think what save people in such situation is not god - but a bit of luck and utmost cooperation with the thugs once they have you.

This nonsense of god this god that in such situations leaves so many gaps in picking small details which can unlock such cases. Instead of praying can you hear whether the thugs when calling are talking of place names such as the ATMs where they are withdrawing cash from? Are they using police talk -crew, afande? When an opening such as Wambui wife coincidence comes can you probe further tactfully - after all you are a journalist. Four hours and you only tell us about god this god that!!

Religion has really dumbed down our knowledge seeking behaviours.

I think human beings intuitively dichotomize the spiritual world and the scientific world  and the concern that people will be confused is unfounded and unsupported by any evidence. The fact that a drunk driver is praying not to be caught is proof that they know that if they are caught, there will be no excuse either in law or in christian belief where praying before commiting a sin does not absolve one from the sin.  Some Pilots or astraunauts pray before they take off,  some Surgeons pray before they perform complex surgeries and when the flight or the operation goes well they can  give credit to both their due diligence, intelligence and scientific training or to their ritualistic religious discipline, without any contradiction.  Human beings are able to naturally decompartmentalize  the spirutual world and the world of physical science and rarely confuse them or find them mutually exclusively. Its the norm for most people to operate seamlessly between these two worlds and I am yet to see someone who is totally confused of which world they are operating in at any given time.  My Problem is with those who insist that we have to pick one or the other.

While I have no quarrel with your point in general, that there are religious nuts should also not be a question worth debating.  For me, as long as the behavior mimics what is empirically known to be correct, the difference is the same whether you say Cthulhu did it or Allah did it.

[Dear Mami]

This nonsense of god this god that in such situations leaves so many gaps in picking small details which can unlock such cases. Instead of praying can you hear whether the thugs when calling are talking of place names such as the ATMs where they are withdrawing cash from? Are they using police talk -crew, afande? When an opening such as Wambui wife coincidence comes can you probe further tactfully - after all you are a journalist. Four hours and you only tell us about god this god that!!

Religion has really dumbed down our knowledge seeking behaviours.

But who are you guys to criticize how a person behaves in such a scenario, facing life and death? It's very easy to give instructions from the safety and comfort of your office or home as you type, but we'll only know how you'll do when you yourself are staring death in the face, not a moment before. In any case, the woman is alive and sharing her story. Who is anyone to say her strategy did not work for her?  She has her life, you guys have theories.

[Dear Mami]

My Problem is with those who insist that we have to pick one or the other.

Mine too. I have never had to make such a choice, personally, speaking as someone very much open to hard scientific facts. I pray all the time for wisdom when I'm writing, and when I get an insight that makes things make sense, I credit it to God, whether that insight came from a direct miracle or through the ordinary working out of things. It's all ultimately from God to me, whether supernatural or natural, so the natural is never a threat to me.

[veritas]

Kadame, I'm so touched by what you just said.